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A26703 Cheirothesia tou presbyteriou, or, A letter to a friend tending to prove I. that valid ordination ought not to be repeated, II. that ordination by presbyters is valid : with an appendix in which some brief animadversions are made upon a lately published discourse of M. John Humfrey, concerning re-ordination / by R.A., a lover of truth and peace. R. A. (Richard Alleine), 1611-1681.; Humfrey, John, 1621-1719. Question of re-ordination. 1661 (1661) Wing A984; ESTC R3821 66,750 87

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