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A45335 A practical and polemical commentary, or, exposition upon the third and fourth chapters of the latter epistle of Saint Paul to Timothy wherein the text is explained, some controversies discussed, sundry cases of conscience are cleared, many common places are succinctly handled, and divers usefull and seasonable observations raised / by Thomas Hall ... Hall, Thomas, 1610-1665. 1658 (1658) Wing H436; ESTC R14473 672,720 512

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they may live desired and dye lamented that so when you are dead it may be said We misse such a man he was zealous against Sabbath-Prophaners Drunkards Swearers Sectaries c. He was forward to works of Piety and Mercy and ready to every good work 'T was Davids commendation Acts 13.36 that he served God in his Generation he did not seek himself nor serve God for a day or two but he served him his whole Generation as Noah did Gen. 6.9 God hath abundance of dishonour done him by profane persons and Religion suffers much by them now we should labour to repair the dishonours done to his name by being blamelesse and harmlesse shining like lights before a perverse nation The worse the times we live in are the greater will our honour be if we be faithfull 'T was Lots commendation that he was good in Sodom and Job in an Heathenish Vz. The more Sinne abounds the more our Grace should abound and the more Sin appears in the World the more should we appear against it The Lord hath done more for us of this last age of the World then ever he did for our fore-fathers and therefore he expects more from us then he did from them where he bestowes much he looks for much again where we bestow double cost we look for a double crop Christ is now more clearly preached to us and we enjoy the helps and advantages of former times A Pigmy set upon a Gyants shoulders may see further then the Gyant himself It 's a shame for us if we do not our work better by Sun-light then others that have had but Twy-light God takes it very ill to be wounded in the house of his children and friends for when he hath done so much Isai 1.2 3. Zach. 13.6 Will ye also forsake me said Christ to his disciples will you whom I have redeemed and loved above all the people of the World you whom I have brought forth in dayes of greatest Light and Love when 't was free with me to have brought you forth in Mid-night of Popery and Superstition will you also rebell against me There is nothing renews the Gospel so soon as this contempt it makes the Lord repent of all the kindnesse he hath shewed us 2. Note We must not look for a Church in this World without its imperfections and corruptions if ever the Church on Earth shall be pure and glorious it shall be in the last dayes yet we see the spirit of God tells us here expresly that these last dayes shall be perilous times by reason of the swarms of wicked men which shall be in the very bosome of the Church who shall indeed pretend to much Piety yet shall be full of Impiety and Hypocrisy they shall have a form of godlinesse but they will deny its power v. 5. There will be to the end of the World a mixture in the Church of God there will be Tares and Wheat good and bad in the Church alwayes Mat. 13.25 One told the Emperour Frederick that he would go to a place where no Hypocrites were then said he you must go beyond the frozen Ocean where there are no Inhabitants and yet thou wilt find an Hyprocrite there if thou find thy self there He that looks for a perfect Church in this World or for such a Church wherein there shall be none but Reall Saints may look till his eyes rot in his head before he see that day Christ had but twelve and one of them was a Devill and the rest that were sincere yet had their failings The Apostle tells us that in the bosome of the Church there shall be seducers Acts 20.29 30. from amongst your selves shall men arise speaking perverse things to draw disciples after them All the Churches we read of in the Scripture have had their failings and blots as the Church of Ierusalem Corinth Galatia and the seven Churches of Asia yet Christ owned them and communicated with them still and sent his disciples to them and therefore be not offended when you see defects corruptions and disorders in the Church perfection indeed is to be wisht for but it is reserved for Heaven No Church ever was is or shall be perfectly free from sin on Earth Let us not then forsake the Lords Floore because there is some Chaffe in it nor run from Sion instead of Babylon as many in our dayes do that cry out against the Church of England as a false Church though all the Churches of God in the World own her for a true one and run from her as from Babylon and so run into Babylon from a supposed into a Reall Babylon Babylon signifieth Confusion now amongst those that separate what sad confusion is there Division upon division separation upon separation c. till they have broken themselves all to pieces and at last are faine to sit like Owles alone These are they that abhorre a mixt company yet flye from Reall Saints This they call new Light when it is nothing but an old Error of the Catharists and Donatists who out of a conceit of their own exceeding holinesse did separate themselves Perfectionem justitiae Angelicam sanctitatem hic ab hominibus requirunt Donatistae quam etiam se suosque illos impuros coetus habere jactant profitentur tam sunt arrogantes coeci à vero suae infirmitatis rebellionis sensu alieni Danaeus loco citato ubi plura Causelesse Separation saith a learned Divine from established Churches walking according to the Order of the Gospel though perhaps failing in some small things is yet no small sin Let such consider 1. That the Root of this separation is bad and therefore the fruit cannot be good It springs from Pride and Censoriousnesse as we see in the Pharisees who were great Separatists and have their name from thence 2. Such are Schismaticks and in a short time they will he Hereticks for Schisme is the way to Heresy they make a Rent in the Church whose Peace should be very dear to us for though Peace be not the Esse and being of a Church yet it tends very much to its bene esse and well-being for as a Kingdom so a Church divided cannot long endure 3. The Pretences made for Separation are now removed there 's no Bishop Surplesse Cross Common-prayer c. for them to stumble at and yet separation was unlawfull then but now it s farre more vile and therefore the Lord punisheth the Separatists of this age more severely by giving them up to viler opinions than formerly 4. 'T is a scandall and wrong to a Church 't is ill to forsake the society of one good man without a cause but to un-church a whole Church causelesly now great is that sin 5. They cannot escape the revenging hand of God Though men may suffer them yet God will not one of the saddest judgements that we read of in the Scripture befell schismaticall Corah
any Relations to wicked persons we must not presently forsake them or out-run them Some children have wicked Parents some husbands have wicked wives some servants have wicked Masters now these Relations must not be contemned or violated 1. The husband may not leave his wife nor the wife her husband for any cause but for adultery Matth. 19.9 no other cause can annull marriages and therefore those Sectaries that out-run their wives pretending they are carnall they are not Saints nor called nor spirituall such must remember what Christ saith Whosoever puts away his wife except it be for adultery and marries another commits adultery and if the husband be wicked yet the wife must abide still with him because she may be a meanes to convert him 1 Cor. 7.16 2. If a godly child have wicked Parents he must not out-run them but by Prayer and Patience and leading a convincing life he must labour to win them shewing all due Honour and respect unto them 3. If a Religious servant have an Irreligious Master he may not out-run him but must by a holy just religious walking labour to win him 1 Tim. 6.1 yea though they be froward and pervense yet must they be reverenced and obeyed as Masters We must obey evill men but not in evill Saul was a wicked man yet David gives him all due respect 2. Caut. When I say we must forsake communion with the wicked take heed of forsaking Sion instead of Babylon Many especially in these loose times call the Church of England Babylon a whore a false Church which yet the God of Heaven and his Churches acknowledge for a true Church This makes so many turn Separatists and instead of running from Babylon they run into Babylon they run from a supposed into a Reall Babylon of confusion and disorder 'T is ill to ●ast off communion with one good man without a cause but to un-church all the Churches of God in the world and to forsake the Assemblies of Gods people where he is purely worshipped is the high way to des●●uction a member cut off from the body must needs dye I observe that ●he first Lesson which the Devill teacheth his Schollars is separation and after that comes a Troop of errors and miscarriages both in Doctrine and Practice Such Practices are very unseasonable especially now when all had need to unite against the common enemy Object There are Defects and corruptions in our Church Answ. And what Church on earth is free Had not the Church of Ierusalem the Church of Corinth and the seven Churches of Asia their defects and yet they were called Holy Segregatione because they were separated by God and set apart for his service and worship the name of God is called on there the Oracles of God are taught there and Religion is profest there and therefore they are called Holy 2. A parte praestantiori fit denominatio because there are some Saints there as we call a man a Rational creature from the soul which is the better part and a heap of corn is called Wheat though it have much chaff mixt with it 3. Iudicio charitatis When people make an externall profession of Holinesse in the judgement of charity we must hope they are Holy Thus 1 Cor. 1.2 the Apostle calls them Saints at Corinth such was his charity that he hoped they were such It were to be wished that all Gods people were Reall Saints but Christ tells us his Church is mixt it hath Tares as well as Wheat and will have do what we can Matth. 13.24 It 's a dangerous thing to think that there 's no Church where there is not perfect Purity such a man must separate himself from all societies and like Acesius find a new way to Heaven Erigito Acesi scalam solus in coelum ascendito or else joyn himself to a few Hypocrites and if our Churches and Ministers be not true ones I wish the Anabaptists would shew us where we may find better Oh say they the Anabaptistick Churches are purer there they are all Saints Answ. As Samuel said to Saul when he boasted of his sanctity and how he had kept the Commandements of the Lord What means then the bleating of the sheep and the lowing of the Oxen in my eares so say I if the Anabaptists be so pure what makes them raile on those that are pure indeed what means their railing on the faithfull Ministers and the true Churches of Christ yea do not many of them deny Scriptures Sabbaths Sacraments and all Ordinances c. If these be Zion who are Babylon 2. Were they Saints indeed they durst not call themselves so It savours strongly of spiritual pride for men Pharisaically and Donatistically to appropriate to themselves the name of Saints and the godly party and the spiritual people The language of Reall Saints is more meek and modest in Scripture Object We admit such as are openly prophane to the Sacrament Answ. This is easily said but not so easily proved To call a man a Drunkard is one thing but to prove e man a Drunkard is a harder matter Let them prove if they can that the Ministers of England do admit of such to the Sacrament as have been convicted by two competent witnesses at least of Drunkennesse Adultery c. 2. Admit this were so yet another mans sin cannot hurt me if I no way partake with him in it He that eats and drinks unworthily eats and drinks judgemeut to himself and not to me Suppose I could have no meat for my body unlesse I would eat in the company of wicked men must I famish my self rather then to eat with them much lesse may I reject my spirituall food because some wicked men without any fault of mine eat and communicate with me Object The Apostle forbids us to eat with such 1 Cor. 5.11 Answ. The Apostle speaks not there of the Sacrament as the scope and context clearly shew v. 9 10 11. he forbids us intimate private voluntary familiarity with wicked ones for though in respect of publick communion and commerce in Church and State I cannot avoyd society with such yet in respect of private intimate familiarity 't is in my power to avoyd them The Apostle speaks here of civill familiarity saith Reverend Mr. Blake in his Treatise on the Sacraments Chapt. 7. Sect. 16 the Apostle speaks not at all of the Lords Supper in this Chapter and 't is clear in the Text that the Apostle gives direction about the common course of our life to shun all voluntary and free converse with wicked men So he Let us not then forsake the Assemblies of the Saints as too many do Heb. 10.25 forsake not the Lords barne because there is some chaff there If once the Devill get you to swallow this errour you know not where you shall stop As that great Grand-mother said sometimes Rise up daughter and go to thy daughter for thy daughters daughter hath a daughter So will you say in a