Selected quad for the lemma: england_n

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A39298	An answer to George Keith's Narrative of his proceedings at Turners-Hall, on the 11th of the month called June, 1696 wherein his charges against divers of the people called Quakers (both in that, and in another book of his, called, Gross error & hypocrosie detected) are fairly considered, examined, and refuted / by Thomas Ellwood.	Ellwood, Thomas, 1639-1713.	1696 (1696)	Wing E613; ESTC R8140	164,277	235

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be_v concern_v the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n from_o those_o word_n of_o christ_n mat._n 18.17_o go_v tell_v the_o church_n this_o place_n in_o both_o those_o book_n w._n penn_n expound_v of_o private_a offence_n or_o personal_a injury_n between_o brethren_n which_o have_v no_o show_n of_o contradiction_n in_o it_o it_o be_v true_a that_o in_o the_o former_a he_o infer_v from_o those_o word_n of_o christ_n that_o christ_n give_v his_o church_n power_n both_o to_o try_v and_o reject_v spirit_n in_o the_o other_o he_o deny_v that_o those_o word_n of_o christ_n do_v empower_v the_o church_n to_o define_v and_o impose_v upon_o all_o people_n under_o temporal_a and_o eternal_a punishment_n article_n of_o