Selected quad for the lemma: england_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
england_n	article_n	church_n	doctrine_n	10,044	5	6.9591	4	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A70371	The present separation self-condemned and proved to be schism as it is exemplified in a sermon preached upon that subject / by Mr. W. Jenkyn ; and is further attested by divers others of his own persuasion all produced in answer to a letter from a friend.	Jane, William, 1645-1707.; Jenkyn, William, 1613-1685.; S. R. To his worthy friend H. N.; Brinsley, John, fl. 1581-1624.; H. N.	1678 (1678)	Wing J454; ESTC R18614	63,527	154

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firmin_n be_v so_o pester_v with_o that_o he_o answer_v it_o after_o this_o sort_n in_o his_o separation_n examine_v pag._n 28_o 29._o but_o this_o objection_n have_v no_o place_n in_o these_o church_n for_o prayer_n preach_v administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n yea_o discipline_n they_o have_v in_o the_o episcopal_a day_n etc._n etc._n as_o if_o that_o be_v sufficient_a to_o vindicate_v what_o they_o want_v in_o they_o the_o case_n then_o be_v plain_o thus_o that_o they_o be_v some_o year_n without_o any_o settle_a constitution_n that_o though_o the_o province_n of_o london_n be_v by_o a_o ordinance_n 1645._o divide_v into_o twelve_o classical_a eldership_n yet_o after_o all_o the_o ordinance_n about_o it_o the_o very_a form_n of_o government_n be_v not_o order_v to_o be_v publish_v till_o 29_o aug._n 1648._o nay_o nor_o the_o article_n of_o religion_n agree_v to_o be_v print_v till_o about_o a_o month_n before_o and_o yet_o notwithstanding_o than_o the_o cry_n be_v independency_n 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