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A60520 Of the distinction of fvndamental and not fvndamental points of faith devided into two bookes, in the first is shewed the Protestants opinion touching that distinction, and their uncertaintie therin : in the second is shewed and proued the Catholick doctrin touching the same / by C.R. Smith, Richard, 1566-1655. 1645 (1645) Wing S4157; ESTC R26924 132,384 353

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