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A39304 The foundation of tythes shaken and the four principal posts (of divine institution, primitive practice, voluntary donations, & positive laws) on which the nameless author of the book, called, The right of tythes asserted and proved, hath set his pretended right to tythes, removed, in a reply to the said book / by Thomas Ellwood. Ellwood, Thomas, 1639-1713. 1678 (1678) Wing E622; ESTC R20505 321,752 532

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