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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A36405	The dangers of new discipline to the state and church discovered fit to be considered by them who seeke, as they tearme it, the reformation of the Church of England composed by a Trve Protestant, a loyall subject, a loving fellow member of the Common-wealth of England, Scotland, and Ireland ...	True Protestant, a loyall subject, a loving fellow member of the Common-wealth of England, Scotland and Ireland.	1642 (1642)	Wing D199; ESTC R1376	17,359	37

THE DANGERS OF NEW DISCIPLINE TO The STATE and CHURCH Discovered FIT TO BE CONSIDERED By them who seeke as they tearme it the Reformation of the CHURCH of ENGLAND COMPOSED BY A TRVE PROTEstant a Loyall Subject a Loving Fellow Member of the Common-Wealth of England Scotland and Ireland who dayly prayes for KING and PEOPLE and a Setled peace in all three KINGDOMES Printed for W. R. ANN. DOM. 1642. A DISCOVRSE to them who seeke the Reformation as they terme it of the CHVRCH of ENGLAND BRETHREN THe wisdome of governours you must not blame in that they forecasting the manifold strange and dangerous Innovations which are more then likely to follow if your Discipline should take place have for that cause thought it hitherto a part of their duty to withstand your endeavours that way The rather for that they have seene already some small beginnings of the fruits thereof in them who concurring with you in Iudgment about the necessity of that Discipline have adventured without more adoe to separate themselves from the rest of the Church and to put your speculations in execution These mens hastynesse the waryer sort of you doe not Commend you wish they had held themselves longer in and not so dangerously flowne abroad before the feathers of the cause had bene growne Their errour with mercifull termes yee reprove nameing them in great commiseration of mind 1. Pet. 22. your poore Brethren 2. They on the contrary side more bitterly accuse you as their false Brethren and against you they plead saying From your brests it is that wee have sucked those things which when yee delivered vnto us ye termed that heavenly sincere and wholsome milke of Gods word howsoever yee now abhorre as poyson that which the vertue thereof hath wrought and brought forth in us Ps●l 55.13 Yee sometimes our Companions Guides and familiars with whom we have had most sweet consultations are now become our professed Adversaries because wee thinke the statute-Congregations in England to be no true Christian-Churches because wee haue severed our selves from them and because without their leave or licence that are in civill Authority wee have secretly framed our owne Churches according to the platforme of the word of God For of that point betweene you and us there is no controversie Alas what would you have us to doe At such time as yee were content to accept us in the number of your owne your teachings wee heard wee read your writings and though wee would yet able wee are not to forget with what zeale yee ever have profest that in the English Congegations for so many of them as bee ordered according unto their owne Lawes the very publique service of God is fraught as touching matter with heaps of intolerable pollutions and as concerning forme borrowed from the shop of Antichrist hatefull both waies in the eyes of the most holy the kind of their Government by Bishops and Arch-Bishops Antichristian that Discipline which Christ hath essentially tyed that is to say so united unto his Church that wee cannot account it really to be his Church which hath not in it the same Discipline that very Discipline no lesse there despised Pref. against Docter Baner then in the highest Throne of Antichrist all such parts of the word of God as doe any way concerne that Discipline no lesse vnsoundly taught and interpreted by all authorized English Pastors thē by Antichrists factors themselves at Baptisme Crossing at the lords supper kneeling at both a number of other the most notorious badges of Antichristian recognisance vsuall Being moved with these and the like your effectuall discourses whereunto wee gave most attentive eare till they entred even into our soules and were as fire within our bosomes wee thought wee might hereof bee bold to conclude that sith no such Antichristian Synagogue may bee accompted a true Church of Christ yee by accusing all Congregations ordered according to the Lawes of England as Antichristian did meane to condemne those congregations as not being any of them worthy the true name of a Christian Church Yee tell us now it is not your meaning But what meant your often threatnings of them who professing themselves the inhabitants of Mount Sion were too loath to depart wholy as they should out of Babilon Whereat our hearts being fearfully troubled wee durst not wee durst not continue longer so neere her confines least her plagues might suddenly overtake us before wee did cease to bee partakers with her sinnes for so wee could not chuse but acknowledge with greife that wee were when they doing evill wee by our presence in their Assemblies seemed to like thereof or at leastwise not so earnestly to dislike as became men heartily zealous of Gods glory For adventuring to erect the Discipline of Christ without the leave of the Christian Magistrate happily Yee may condemne us as fooles in that wee hazard thereby our estates and persons further then you which are that way more wise thinke necessary but of any offence or sinne therein Cōmitted against God with what Conscience can you accuse us when your owne positions are that the things wee observe should every of them bee dearer unto us then 10000 lives that they are the peremptory Commandements of God that no mortall man can dispence with them that the Magistrate greivously sinneth in constraining thereunto Will Yee blame any man for doing that of his owne accord which all men should be compelled vnto which are not willing of thēselves when God Commandeth shall wee answer that wee will obey if so be Caesar will grant us leave Is Discipline an Ecclesiasticall matter or a Civill If an Ecclesiasticall it must of necessity belong to the duty of the Minister And the Minister Yee say holdeth all his Authority of doing whatsoever belongeth unto the spirituall Charge of the house of God even immediatly from God himselfe without dependency upon any Magistrate Whereupon it followeth as we suppose that the hearts of the people being willing to bee under the scepter of Christ the Minister of God into whose hands the Lord himselfe hath put that scepter is without all excuse if thereby he guide them not Nor doe we find that hitherto greatly yee have disliked those Churches abroad where the people with direction of their Godly Ministers have even against the will of their Magistrate brought in either the doctrine or discipline of IESVS CHRIST For which cause wee must now thinke the very same thing of you which our SAVIOUR did sometimes vtter concerning falsehearted Scribes and Pharisies THEY SAY AND DOE NOT. Thus the foolish Barrowist deriveth his schisme Mat. 3.23 by way of conclusion as to him it seemeth directly and plainly out of your principles Him therfore wee leave to bee satisfied by you from whom he hath sprung And if such by your owne acknowledgment be persons dangerous although as yet the alterations which they have made are of small and tender growth the changes likely to