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A29432 A dissuasive from the errours of the time wherein the tenets of the principall sects, especially of the Independents, are drawn together in one map, for the most part in the words of their own authours, and their maine principles are examined by the touch-stone of the Holy Scriptures / by Robert Baylie ... Baillie, Robert, 1599-1662. 1645 (1645) Wing B456; ESTC R200539 238,349 276

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themselves_o off_o from_o the_o covenant_n they_o do_v therewith_o cut_v off_o their_o child_n to_o z_o ibid._n p._n 63._o we_o dare_v not_o baptise_v the_o child_n of_o these_o parent_n that_o refuse_v to_o profess_v the_o faith_n of_o christ_n as_o their_o only_a king_n as_o well_o as_o their_o only_a priest_n and_o prophet_n for_o christ_n divide_v become_v no_o christ_n to_o the_o divider_n this_o be_v to_o dissolve_v christ_n that_o be_v to_o receive_v he_o only_o in_o part_n and_o not_o in_o whole_a which_o be_v the_o spirit_n of_o antichrist_n ibid._n p._n 55._o such_o a_o conversion_n as_o you_o speak_v of_o come_v not_o home_n to_o whole_a christ_n and_o such_o with_o their_o converter_n do_v deny_v christ_n kingly_a government_n what_o kind_n of_o converter_n call_v you_o these_o at_o best_o they_o be_v convert_v but_o in_o part_n and_o that_o main_a thing_n be_v want_v to_o wit_n christ_n kingly_a office_n which_o they_o come_v not_o up_o to_o by_o the_o preach_v thereof_o w_z paper_n of_o accommodation_n after_o the_o nine_o proposition_n we_o have_v weigh_v our_o brethren_n principle_n do_v find_v no_o probability_n of_o a_o accommodation_n for_o they_o ordinary_o to_o enjoy_v congregation_n unless_o it_o shall_v happen_v in_o a_o parish_n that_o the_o minister_n can_v administer_v the_o sacrament_n to_o all_o of_o the_o parish_n who_o possible_o the_o neighbour_n minister_n or_o the_o classis_fw-la may_v judge_v fit_a to_o be_v admit_v such_o person_n shall_v have_v power_n to_o procure_v to_o themselves_o the_o sacrament_n by_o the_o help_n of_o a_o neighbour_n minister_n ibid._n whereunto_o our_o brethren_n add_v as_o follow_v or_o otherwise_o if_o in_o a_o parish_n it_o happen_v that_o there_o be_v a_o considerable_a number_n of_o such_o as_o can_v partake_v in_o the_o ordinance_n with_o the_o minister_n and_o people_n there_o they_o shall_v have_v liberty_n to_o dispose_v of_o themselves_o as_o a_o distinct_a church_n and_o to_o choose_v a_o minister_n or_o minister_n at_o their_o own_o charge_n to_o be_v maintain_v to_o be_v their_o pastor_n x_o thomas_n goodwin_n to_o i._n g._n p._n 1._o indeed_o we_o that_o be_v to_o admit_v do_v it_o upon_o a_o conviction_n and_o persuasion_n of_o the_o party_n true_a grace_n some_o way_n make_v forth_o visible_a to_o we_o wield_v answer_n to_o chap._n 3._o he_o tell_v we_o that_o they_o must_v be_v real_a saint_n and_o sincere_a believer_n and_o that_o the_o church_n in_o admit_v of_o they_o do_v make_v exact_a trial_n by_o examination_n of_o their_o knowledge_n and_o the_o work_n of_o grace_n first_o in_o private_a then_o in_o public_a and_o that_o they_o be_v such_o as_o can_v cleave_v together_o in_o opinion_n and_o affection_n and_o that_o they_o be_v such_o as_o know_v what_o belong_v to_o church-covenant_n approve_v it_o and_o seek_v it_o be_v there_o any_o thing_n in_o all_o this_o that_o you_o can_v blame_v y_z ibid._n in_o the_o church_n where_o we_o have_v live_v many_o year_n we_o have_v see_v such_o a_o tender_a respect_n have_v to_o the_o weak_a sex_n that_o we_o commit_v their_o trial_n to_o the_o elder_n and_o some_o few_o other_o in_o private_a who_o upon_o their_o testimony_n be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n without_o any_o more_o ado_n z_o rathbones_n narration_n p._n 11._o beside_o true_a and_o real_a saintship_n they_o require_v that_o the_o member_n to_o be_v admit_v be_v such_o as_o can_v cleave_v together_o both_o in_o opinion_n and_o in_o affection_n and_o that_o there_o be_v suitableness_n and_o sweetness_n of_o spirit_n in_o they_o apt_a to_o close_v one_o with_o another_o aa_o vide_fw-la supra_fw-la z_o also_o coton_v way_n p._n 7._o bb_n vide_fw-la supra_fw-la five_o chap._n e_o 1._o cc_o apol._n nar._n p._n 9_o excommunication_n shall_v be_v put_v in_o execution_n for_o no_o other_o kind_n of_o sin_n than_o may_v be_v evident_o presume_v to_o be_v perpetrate_v against_o the_o party_n know_v light_n as_o whether_o it_o be_v a_o sin_n in_o manner_n and_o conversation_n such_o as_o be_v commit_v against_o the_o light_n of_o nature_n or_o the_o common_a receive_v practice_n of_o christianity_n profess_v in_o all_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n or_o if_o in_o opinion_n than_o such_o as_o be_v likewise_o contrary_a to_o the_o receive_a principle_n of_o christianity_n and_o the_o power_n of_o godliness_n profess_v by_o the_o party_n himself_o and_o universal_o acknowledge_v in_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n and_o no_o other_o sin_n to_o be_v the_o subject_n of_o that_o dreadful_a sentence_n dd_o bastwicks_n postscript_n p._n 58._o also_o his_o just_a defence_n p._n 39_o ee_o a_o apology_n of_o the_o church_n in_o new-england_n for_o a_o church-covenant_n ff_n t.g._n to_o i.g._n p._n first_o it_o be_v no_o more_o with_o we_o then_o this_o a_o assent_n and_o resolution_n profess_v by_o they_o that_o be_v to_o be_v admit_v by_o we_o with_o promise_n to_o walk_v in_o all_o these_o way_n pertain_v to_o this_o fellowship_n so_o far_o as_o they_o shall_v be_v reveal_v to_o they_o in_o the_o gospel_n thus_o brief_o indefinite_o and_o implicit_o in_o such_o like_a word_n and_o no_o more_o or_o otherwise_o do_v we_o apply_v our_o answer_n to_o man_n conscience_n church-covenant_n p._n 36._o we_o deny_v not_o but_o the_o covenant_n in_o many_o of_o the_o english_a congregation_n be_v more_o implicit_a and_o not_o so_o plain_a as_o be_v to_o be_v desire_v yet_o there_o want_v not_o that_o real_a and_o substantial_a come_n together_o or_o agree_v in_o covenant_n and_o that_o substantial_a profession_n of_o faith_n which_o thanks_o be_v to_o god_n have_v preserve_v the_o essence_n of_o visible_a church_n in_o england_n unto_o this_o day_n gg_n plain_o deal_v p._n 2._o a_o church_n be_v gather_v after_o this_o manner_n a_o competent_a number_n of_o christian_n come_v together_o in_o some_o fit_a place_n in_o a_o public_a manner_n and_o there_o confess_v their_o sin_n and_o profess_v their_o faith_n and_o enter_v into_o church-covenant_n after_o this_o they_o do_v at_o this_o same_o time_n or_o some_o other_o all_o be_v together_o elect_v their_o own_o officer_n as_o pastor_n teacher_n elder_n deacon_n if_o they_o have_v fit_a man_n enough_o to_o supply_v these_o place_n else_o as_o many_o of_o they_o as_o they_o can_v be_v provide_v of_o then_o they_o set_v another_o day_n for_o the_o ordination_n of_o their_o say_a officer_n hh_o answer_v to_o the_o 32_o question_n p._n 36._o if_o church-communion_n and_o the_o exercise_n of_o such_o ordinance_n as_o christ_n have_v appoint_v for_o his_o church_n be_v lawful_a and_o needful_a when_o magistrate_n be_v enemy_n to_o the_o gospel_n and_o be_v not_o so_o when_o magistrate_n profess_v the_o gospel_n we_o do_v not_o see_v but_o christian_n may_v sometime_o be_v loser_n by_o have_v christian_a magistrate_n and_o in_o worse_a condition_n then_o if_o they_o have_v none_o but_o profess_a enemy_n ibid._n p._n 41._o it_o be_v our_o practice_n in_o ordination_n of_o minister_n as_o also_o in_o remove_v of_o they_o to_o have_v the_o assistance_n of_o minister_n of_o other_o church_n but_o for_o authority_n and_o power_n we_o know_v none_o that_o minister_n have_v proper_o so_o call_v in_o any_o congregation_n save_o that_o one_o over_o which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v make_v they_o overseer_n and_o therefore_o we_o think_v it_o not_o lawful_a when_o a_o church_n be_v to_o ordain_v officer_n to_o call_v in_o by_o way_n of_o authority_n or_o power_n the_o minister_n of_o other_o church_n two_o cotton_v way_n p._n 1._o the_o church_n to_o which_o christ_n have_v commit_v the_o censure_n be_v a_o combination_n of_o faithful_a godly_a man_n meet_v by_o common_a consent_n into_o one_o congregation_n ibid._n 7._o then_o such_o who_o heart_n god_n teach_v often_o meet_v together_o about_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n and_o perform_v some_o duty_n of_o prayer_n and_o spiritual_a conference_n together_o till_o a_o sufficient_a company_n of_o they_o be_v well_o satisfy_v in_o the_o spiritual_a good_a estate_n one_o of_o another_o and_o so_o have_v approve_v themselves_o to_o one_o another_o conscience_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n as_o live_v stone_n fit_a to_o be_v lay_v in_o the_o lord_n spiritull_n temple_n ibid._n p._n 10._o the_o church_n be_v thus_o gather_v as_o have_v be_v describe_v our_o next_o care_n be_v that_o it_o may_v be_v supply_v with_o all_o these_o officer_n which_o christ_n have_v ordain_v kk_n answer_v to_o the_o 32_o question_n p._n 43._o we_o do_v not_o find_v that_o god_n do_v anywhere_o say_v they_o must_v be_v above_o forty_o or_o else_o they_o can_v be_v a_o church_n nay_o rather_o that_o speech_n of_o christ_n of_o two_o or_o three_o gather_v together_o in_o his_o name_n do_v plain_o imply_v that_o if_o there_o be_v a_o great_a number_n than_o two_o or_o three_o