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A61632 The unreasonableness of separation, or, An impartial account of the history, nature, and pleas of the present separation from the communion of the Church of England to which, several late letters are annexed, of eminent Protestant divines abroad, concerning the nature of our differences, and the way to compose them / by Edward Stillingfleet ... Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1681 (1681) Wing S5675; ESTC R4969 310,391 554

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preface_n to_o the_o reader_n sum_n of_o the_o cause_n of_o separation_n ibid._n brownist_n apology_n p._n 7_o 8_o 9_o ainsworth_n counterpoison_n p._n 3._o ib._n p._n 87._o t._n cs._n letter_n to_o harrison_n against_o separation_n in_o defence_n of_o the_o admonition_n to_o the_o follower_n of_o brown_n p._n 98_o 99_o page_n 106._o page_n 107._o page_n 91._o counterpoison_v p._n 117._o ball_n against_o can_n p._n 77._o giffard_n answer_n to_o the_o brownist_n p._n 55._o grave_a confutation_n etc._n etc._n p._n 9_o 10_o 11._o ●rau●con●utation_n etc._n etc._n ●_o 12_o 13_o 15._o ibid._n pall_v against_o can._n part._n 2._o p._n 8._o giffard_n plain_a declaration_n etc._n etc._n preface_n answ._n to_o the_o brown_n p._n 10_o 11._o mr._n arthur_n hildershams_n letter_n against_o separation_n sect._n 2._o high_o commend_v by_o mr._n j._n cotton_n in_o his_o preface_n before_o his_o commentary_n on_o 4_o john_n i●_n sect._n c_o 7_o 8._o v._o bradshaw_n answer_n to_o johnson_n hildershams_n letter_n sect._n 3_o grave_a confutation_n
fab_n l_o 3._o 5._o epiph._n haer_fw-mi 59_o cyprian_a de_fw-fr vnit._n eccl._n n._n 11_o 12_o etc._n etc._n epiph._n haer_fw-mi 68_o theod._n l._n 1._o c._n 9_o epiph._n haer_fw-mi 70._o sect._n 15._o rector_n of_o sutton_n etc._n etc._n p._n 42._o cotton_n be_v answer_n to_o r._n williams_n p._n 121._o mischief_n of_o imposit_n in_o the_o preface_n aug._n c._n ep._n parmen_fw-la l._n 1._o c._n 7._o l._n 2._o c._n 1_o 3_o 11._o l._n 3._o c._n 1._o de_fw-fr bapt_a c._n donat._n l._n 2._o c._n crescon_n l._n 2._o c._n 14._o aug._n ep._n 43._o &_o 51._o col●_n at_o 3._o carthag_n n._n 258._o mischief_n of_o imposi●ions_n in_o the_o preface_n collat._n 3._o carthag_n n._n 258._o aug_n 〈…〉_z ●6_n c._n parmen_fw-la l._n 1._o c._n 5._o l._n 2._o c._n 18._o cure_v of_o division_n direct_v 7._o defence_n of_o the_o cure_n p._n 3._o christian_n directory_n p._n 739_o etc._n etc._n mischief_n of_o impo_n sect._n 1_o christian_n directory_n p._n 741._o defence_n of_o his_o cure_n 2_o except_o p_o 6._o heb._n 10._o 25._o act._n 2._o 42._o 1_o cor._n 10._o 17._o 1_o cor_n 12._o 13._o ephes._n 4._o 3_o 4_o 5._o joh●_n 17._o 21._o iren._n l._n 4._o c._n 62._o chryso_v in_o eph._n 4._o p._n ●22_n 1_o cor._n 10._o 6._o 14._o 1_o st._n john_n 5._o matt._n 4._o 19_o 2_o cor._n 6._o 17._o heb._n 13._o 7._o 17._o 1_o thess._n 5._o 12._o 13._o gal._n 1._o 6._o 7._o 8._o tit._n 3._o 10._o 2_o john_n 10._o revel_v 2._o 6._o 15._o a●t_fw-la 15._o 2._o phil._n 3._o 3_o rom._n 14._o 2_o 〈…〉_z 18_o 19_o 1_o cor._n 5._o 11._o vers._n 12._o 13_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 37._o serm._n p._n 26._o vindic_n p._n 41._o cotton_n way_n of_o congregational_a church_n clear_v p._n 98_o 99_o cyprian_n l._n 5._o ep._n 2._o in_o the_o late_a edit_n ep._n 5._o l._n 4._o 10._o ep._n 35._o l._n 5._o ep._n 3._o ep._n 28._o l._n 3._o ep._n 22._o ep._n 24._o ep._n 40._o euseb._n l._n 6._o c._n 35._o phot._n nomocan_a do_fw-mi 1._o c._n 30._o l._n 3._o ep._n 5._o ep._n 15._o l._n 3._o 15._o ep._n 11._o l._n 3._o ep._n 14._o ep._n 10._o l._n 3._o ep._n 15._o ep._n 11._o l._n 3._o ep._n 10._o ep._n 12._o ep._n 21._o ep._n 22._o ep._n 25._o ep._n 26._o ep._n 28._o ep._n 30._o ep._n 31._o ep._n 33._o ep._n 34._o ep._n 35._o ep._n 38._o ep._n 39_o ep._n 27._o ep._n 52._o ep._n 55._o ep._n 65._o ep._n 69._o ep._n 75._o moses_n and_o aaron_n p._n 62._o vindic._n p._n 39_o act._n 9_o 31._o 1_o thess._n 2._o 14._o 1_o cor._n 16._o 19_o act._n 15._o 41._o 1_o cor._n 16._o 1._o gal._n 1._o 2._o 2_o cor._n 8._o 1._o act._n 20._o 19_o 31._o 1_o cor._n 16._o 9_o vindic._n p._n 40._o p._n 4●_n orig._n c._n cels._n l._n 3._o act._n 18._o 11._o act._n 20._o 31._o s●t_a l._n 8._o thucyd._n l._n 4._o &_o l._n 8._o p._n 41._o act._n 4._o 4._o s●●_n l._n 9_o eustar_n ad_fw-la il._n ●_o euseb._n l._n 3._o c._n 5._o epiph._n haer_fw-mi 29._o p._n 42._o evangel_n love_n p._n 59_o p._n 65._o p._n 43._o p._n 44._o reason_n against_o the_o instance_n etc._n etc._n p._n 83._o p._n 46._o p._n 24._o true_a and_o only_a way_n of_o concord_n p_o iii_o premonition_n to_o the_o true_a way_n of_o concord_n plea_n for_o peace_n p._n 66._o church-history_n p._n 37._o p._n 73._o church-history_n p._n 57_o answ._n to_o serm._n p._n 74._o aug._n de_fw-fr bapt._n l._n 2._o c._n 4._o cypt._n ep._n 52._o n._n 4._o cypr._n ep._n 55._o n._n 6_o 9_o ep._n 46._o n._n 3._o ep._n 58._o n._n 2._o de_fw-fr vnit._n eccl._n n._n 3_o 4._o s._n august_n ep._n 162._o n._n e._n ep._n 43._o collat._n carthage_n 1_o aug._n ep._n 43._o victor_n viten_n l._n 1._o 1._o aug._n serm._n 4._o 14._o 102._o de_fw-la diversis_fw-la diversis_fw-la serm._n 12._o 122._o de_fw-la diversis_fw-la diversis_fw-la de_fw-fr divers_a 11._o 11._o 96._o de_fw-fr temp._n temp._n vict._n l._n 1._o 1._o 110._o de_fw-fr temp._n temp._n 251._o de_fw-fr temp._n temp._n 24._o the_o divers_a victor_n vit._n l._n 5._o collat._n 1._o carthage_n n._n 139._o optat._n l._n 6._o cod._n eccl._n afric_n c._n 71._o c._n 98_o 99_o c._n 117._o c._n 118._o c._n 121._o church_n history_n p._n 73._o de_fw-fr curd_n pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la c._n 12._o aug._n ep._n 60._o aug._n ep._n 203._o ep._n 204._o ep._n 262._o ep._n ad_fw-la quodvultdeum_fw-la ante_fw-la lib._n de_fw-fr haeres_fw-la s._n cyprian_n ep._n 52._o n._n 13._o ep._n 23._o n._n 2._o ep._n 45._o n._n 2._o victor_n vit._n l._n 1._o epiph._n haer_fw-mi 68_o n._n 6._o athanas._n ap._n p._n 781._o 802._o haeres_fw-la 68_o n._n 4._o 69._o n._n 1._o abridgement_n of_o chur._n hist._n p._n 9_o athanas._n ap._n p._n 682._o euseb._n l._n 7._o c._n 21._o vetus_fw-la orbis_n descript_n p._n 18._o amm._n marc._n l._n 22._o euseb._n l._n 7._o c._n 11._o athan._n apol._n p._n 683._o theodor._n ep._n 113._o treatise_n of_o episcopacy_n p._n 67._o critic_n sacr._n l._n 4._o c._n 21._o theod._n ep._n 116._o ep._n 117._o sirmond_n praef._n ad_fw-la theod._n opera_fw-la ptolem._n l._n 5._o c._n 15._o strab._n l._n 16._o plin._n l._n 5._o c._n 24._o amm._n marcel_n l._n 14._o notitiae_fw-la antiq_n append._n ad_fw-la car._n à_fw-fr s._n paulo_n p._n 59_o theodor._n ep._n 16._o theodor._n ep._n 79_o 81._o ep._n 42._o ep._n 72._o religios_fw-la hist._n vit._n symeon_n p._n 879._o ep._n 81._o ep._n 145._o vita_fw-la jacobi_n jun._n p._n 860._o 861_o etc._n etc._n 858_o 869_o 876_o 877_o 878_o 879._o treatise_n of_o episcopacy_n part_v 2._o p_o 49_o 50._o theod._n hist._n l._n 4._o c._n 19_o l._n 4._o c._n 15._o l._n 4._o c._n 19_o l._n 4._o c._n 21._o l._n 4._o c._n 2_o l._n 5._o c._n 4._o answ._n to_o serm._n p._n 73._o p._n 263._o christian_n directory_n eccles._n case_n q._n 56._o p._n 831._o can._n 31._o &_o 35._o defence_n of_o the_o answer_n to_o the_o admonit_a p._n 218._o p._n 424._o p._n 427._o perpetual_a government_n of_o christ_n church_n ch_n 12._o p._n 224._o ch_n 13_o p._n 244._o synod_n of_o new-england_n concern_v the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n etc._n etc._n 1662._o baxter_n of_o confirmation_n p._n 20._o p._n 49_o 52._o p._n 155._o p._n 172._o p._n 262._o rubric_n before_o communion_n defence_n of_o the_o plea_n p._n 58._o epist._n 108._o post_v collat_n c._n donat._n c._n 20._o spalat_n l._n 5._o c._n 9_o albaspin_n l._n 2._o c._n 4._o defence_n of_o the_o plea_n p._n 65_o 72._o de_fw-fr t●mp●re_fw-fr serm._n ●52_n of_o confirmation_n p._n 174_o etc._n etc._n his_o majesty_n final_a answer_n to_o the_o divine_n at_o newport_n n._n 4._o calvin_n ep._n 136._o bez._n ep._n 20._o codex_fw-la eccles_n afric_n c._n 6_o 7_o 9_o 43._o c._n 10._o c._n 11._o p._n 5._o p._n 9_o plea_n for_o peace_n p._n 243._o answ._n 10_o serm._n socr._n l._n 5._o c._n 19_o soz._n l._n 7._o c._n 16._o serm._n p._n 19_o vindicat._n of_o non-conform_a p._n 16._o p._n 17._o p._n 17._o p._n 42._o william_n his_o answer_n to_o cotton_n letter_n p._n 1._o cotton_n answer_v to_o r_o williams_n p._n 57_o 〈…〉_z p._n 46._o cobbet_n answer_n to_o clerk_n narrative_a p._n 40_o 47._o synod_n of_o new-england_n p._n 30._o defence_n of_o the_o synod_n p._n 1●2_n answ._n p._n 31_o 32._o difference_n between_o the_o power_n of_o the_o magistrate_n and_o church_n pastor_n 1●●1_n p._n 〈◊〉_d 40._o 〈…〉_z 〈…〉_z p._n 12_o 13_o 14._o hudson_n of_o the_o church_n p._n 15._o can._n 139._o christian_n directory_n eccl._n case_n q._n 5●_n p._n 830._o answer_v to_o my_o sermon_n p._n 77._o anw_n p_o 34._o p._n 39_o mischief_n of_o impo_n p._n 27._o ibid._n p._n 29._o p._n 30._o p._n 31._o letter_n out_o of_o the_o country_n p._n 24._o p._n 25._o p._n 26._o part_n 2._o rector_n of_o sutton_n etc._n etc._n p._n 2d_o vindication_n etc._n etc._n p._n 3●_n answ._n p._n 15_o 16._o mischief_n of_o 〈◊〉_d preface_n letter_n out_o of_o the_o country_n p._n 25._o vindicat._n p._n 37._o 1_o tim._n 3._o 2_o 7_o 10._o act._n l._n 14._o act._n 6._o 3_o 5._o act._n 11._o 3._o act._n 15._o 2._o 6._o 12._o 16._o 4._o 1_o tim._n 3._o 2_o 7._o act._n 1●_n 2._o act._n 6._o 3._o clement_n epist._n p._n 54_o 55_o 56_o 57_o answ._n p._n 27._o cypr._n epist._n 68_o orig._n hom_n 6._o in_o levit._n euseb._n de_fw-fr vit._n const._n l._n 3._o c._n 59_o greg._n naz._n orat._n 19_o evagr._fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 5._o socr._n l._n 4._o c._n 14._o soz._n l._n 3._o c._n 5._o socr._n l._n 7._o c._n 26_o 35._o ambros._n ep._n 82._o socr._n l._n 4._o c._n 30._o soz._n l._n 4._o c._n 28._o socr._n l._n 5._o c._n 9_o l._n 6._o c._n 11._o amm._n marc._n l._n 27._o answ._n p._n 15._o de_fw-fr sacerd._n l._n 3._o hieron_n adversus_fw-la jovin_n in_o ezek._n c._n 33._o orig_n in_o num._n hom_n 22._o hieron_n epist._n
harrison_n his_o example_n be_v soon_o follow_v by_o other_o of_o his_o brethren_n who_o write_v the_o admonition_n to_o the_o follower_n of_o brown_n and_o the_o defence_n of_o that_o admonition_n when_o barrow_n and_o greenwood_n publish_v their_o four_o reason_n for_o separation_n three_o of_o which_o they_o take_v out_o of_o the_o admonition_n to_o the_o parliament_n viz._n unlawful_a ministry_n antichristian_a government_n and_o false_a worship_n gifford_n a_o nonconformist_a at_o maldon_n in_o essex_n undertake_v to_o answer_v they_o in_o several_a treatise_n and_o it_o be_v observable_a that_o these_o nonconformist_n charge_n the_o brownist_n with_o make_v a_o vile_a notorious_a and_o damnable_a schism_n because_o they_o withdraw_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o our_o church_n and_o set_v up_o new_a one_o of_o their_o own_o gifford_n not_o only_o call_v they_o schismatic_n preface_n but_o say_v they_o make_v a_o vile_a schism_n rend_v themselves_o from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o condemn_v by_o their_o assertion_n the_o whole_a visible_a church_n in_o the_o world_n even_o as_o the_o donatist_n do_v of_o old_a time_n and_o he_o add_v that_o the_o end_n of_o brownism_n as_o it_o be_v then_o call_v be_v infinite_a schism_n heresy_n atheism_n and_o barbarism_n and_o the_o same_o author_n preface_n in_o his_o second_o book_n reckon_v up_o the_o ill_a effect_n of_o this_o separation_n among_o the_o people_n have_v these_o remarkable_a word_n now_o look_v also_o on_o the_o people_n where_o we_o may_v see_v very_o many_o who_o not_o regard_v the_o chief_a christian_a virtue_n and_o godly_a duty_n as_o namely_o to_o be_v meek_a to_o be_v patient_n to_o be_v lowly_a to_o be_v full_a of_o love_n and_o mercy_n to_o deal_v upright_o and_o just_o to_o guide_v their_o family_n in_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n with_o wholesome_a instruction_n and_o to_o stand_v fast_o in_o the_o call_v in_o which_o god_n have_v set_v they_o give_v themselves_o whole_o to_o this_o even_o as_o if_o it_o be_v the_o sum_n and_o pith_n of_o religion_n namely_o to_o argue_v and_o talk_v continual_o against_o matter_n in_o the_o church_n against_o bishop_n and_o minister_n and_o one_o against_o another_o on_o both_o side_n some_o be_v proceed_v to_o this_o that_o they_o will_v come_v to_o the_o assembly_n to_o hear_v the_o sermon_n and_o prayer_n of_o the_o preacher_n but_o not_o to_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o book_n which_o i_o take_v to_o be_v a_o more_o grievous_a sin_n than_o many_o do_v suppose_v but_o yet_o this_o be_v not_o the_o worst_a for_o sundry_a be_v go_v further_o and_o fall_v into_o a_o damnable_a schism_n and_o the_o same_o so_o much_o the_o more_o fearful_a and_o dangerous_a in_o that_o many_o do_v not_o see_v the_o foulness_n of_o it_o but_o rather_o hold_v they_o as_o godly_a christian_n and_o but_o a_o little_a over-shot_a in_o these_o matter_n but_o that_o this_o man_n go_v upon_o the_o principle_n of_o the_o nonconformist_n appear_v by_o his_o state_v the_o question_n in_o the_o same_o preface_n for_o i_o show_v say_v he_o in_o express_a word_n that_o i_o do_v not_o meddle_v at_o all_o in_o these_o question_n whether_o there_o be_v corruption_n and_o fault_n in_o our_o church_n condemn_v by_o god_n word_n whether_o they_o be_v many_o or_o few_o whether_o they_o be_v small_a or_o great_a but_o only_o thus_o far_o whether_o they_o be_v such_o or_o so_o great_a as_o make_v our_o church_n antichristian_a preface_n barrow_n say_v that_o this_o gifford_n be_v one_o that_o join_v with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o faction_n in_o the_o petition_n to_o the_o parliament_n against_o the_o english_a hierarchy_n and_o it_o appear_v by_o several_a passage_n of_o his_o book_n that_o he_o be_v a_o nonconformist_a and_o he_o be_v join_v with_o cartwright_n hildersham_n brightman_n and_o other_o nonconformist_n by_o the_o prefacer_n to_o the_o desence_n of_o bradshaw_n against_o johnson_n 5._o and_o i_o find_v his_o name_n in_o one_o of_o the_o class_n in_o essex_n at_o that_o time_n the_o author_n of_o the_o second_o answer_n for_o communicate_v 1588._o who_o defend_v t._n cs._n letter_n to_o harrison_n brown_n colleague_n against_o separation_n prove_v join_v with_o the_o church_n a_o duty_n necessary_o enjoin_v he_o of_o god_n by_o his_o providence_n through_o his_o be_v and_o place_v in_o a_o particular_a church_n and_o just_o require_v of_o he_o by_o the_o church_n or_o spiritual_a body_n through_o that_o same_o enforce_a law_n of_o the_o coherence_n and_o be_v together_o of_o the_o part_n and_o member_n which_o be_v the_o express_a ordinance_n of_o god_n so_o that_o say_v he_o unless_o i_o hold_v the_o congregation_n whereof_o i_o be_o now_o disannul_v and_o become_v no_o church_n of_o christ_n for_o the_o not_o separate_v a_o unworthy_a member_n i_o can_v voluntary_o either_o absent_v myself_o from_o their_o assembly_n to_o holy_a exercise_n or_o yet_o depart_v away_o be_v come_v together_o without_o breach_n of_o the_o bond_n of_o peace_n sunder_v the_o cement_n of_o love_n impair_n the_o growth_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o incur_v the_o guilt_n of_o schism_n and_o division_n 46._o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n he_o speak_v elsewhere_o 13._o richard_n bernard_n call_v it_o a_o uncharitable_a and_o lewd_a schism_n which_o they_o be_v guilty_a of_o but_o i_o need_v not_o mention_v more_o particular_a author_n since_o in_o the_o grave_a confutation_n of_o the_o error_n of_o the_o separatist_n 57_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o nonconformist_n it_o be_v say_v that_o because_o we_o have_v a_o true_a church_n con●●ting_v of_o a_o lawful_a ministry_n and_o a_o faithful_a people_n therefore_o they_o can_v separate_v themselves_o from_o we_o but_o they_o must_v needs_o incur_v the_o most_o shameful_a and_o odious_a reproach_n of_o manifest_a schism_n 17._o and_o concern_v the_o state_n of_o the_o person_n who_o live_v in_o separation_n they_o say_v we_o hold_v they_o all_o to_o be_v in_o a_o 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