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A15395 An antilogie or counterplea to An apologicall (he should haue said) apologeticall epistle published by a fauorite of the Romane separation, and (as is supposed) one of the Ignatian faction wherein two hundred vntruths and slaunders are discouered, and many politicke obiections of the Romaines answered. Dedicated to the Kings most excellent Maiestie by Andrevv Willet, Professor of Diuinitie. Willet, Andrew, 1562-1621. 1603 (1603) STC 25672; ESTC S120023 237,352 310

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August lib. 3. cont Petilian c. 16. Pag. 55. l. 24. c. Pag. 55. lin 4 5. c. Vntruth 109. We doe not condemne them to hell Parents corrupt religion not to be followed Ezech. 18.14 Errors of simplicitie in times of ignorance by Gods mercie pardoned Iohn 9.41 Lib. 4. de baptism ca 5. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Pag. 56. Pag. 57. Pag. 58. Pag. 61. Pag. 62. How farre we are bound to our predecessors for benefites receiued by and from them 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Vntruth 110. Vntruth 111. Acts of Parliament examined fal●ely alleaged by the Apologist Vntruth 112. Vntruth 113. Vntruth 114. Vntruth 115. Vntruth 116. Vntruth 117. Vntruth 118. Vntruth 119. Vntruth 120. Vntruth 121. Westm●n 2. ca. 41. Edw. 1. ann 13. Aedificia corū●cclesiis vendicentur Cod. lib. 1. tit 12. l. 11. Honor. ☞ Theodos. Popish hierarchie vsurpeth places of the Church 1. Cor. 9.11 1. Sam. 2.35 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The third proofe What power Protestants yeeld to Princes in causes ecclesiasticall Vntruth 122. Vntruth 123. Vntruth 124. Synops. contr 7. qu. 1. par 3. Fox pag. 143. Princes ciuill and morall vertues do not iustifie their religion Sozomen lib. 4.15 Math. 15.14 The whole Christian world not deceiued Generall Councels may erre Bellar. lib. 1. de concil ca. 7. Iud. 9.48 Epistol 30. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The fourth proofe Answ. to sect 6. Fox pag. 122. ca. 1. Popish legend miracles Fox pag. 125. col 2. Fox ibid. Ex histor Iornalens Fox p. 129. Stow an 757. Sigebert a cruell tyrant Stow an ●16 Of the cure of the Queenes euill Stow in Edward Confessor Ex Suetonio Cure of strāge diseases amōg Paganes 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Plutarch quaest Graec. 50. Serm. 18. in Psal. 119. Hieron de vir perfect Vntruth 125. Vntruth 126. Vntruth 127. Falsificat or vntruth 117. Ex histor Iornalens Fox pa. 159. Monasteries built for redemption of soules Fox pa. 279. Stow ann 179. Auncient Kings of England dissenting from the Church of Rome ann 664. Fox pa. 123. Fox ibid. col 2 lin 8.9 Ann. 880. Pag. 144. Ann. 996. Fox pa. 1142. Fox pa. 147. to pag. 151. Histor. Iornalens in vit Edgar Ann. Edw. 3.38 c. 1 2. Rich. 2. ann 13. stat 2. c. 2. Henr. 4. ann 9. c. 8. King Henries purpose to reforme religion Fox pag. 1291. Fox pag. 2091. Pag. 2092. Pag. 2093. Pag. 2095. Queene Elizabeths troubles and dangers in her sisters time Fox p. 166. c. 1. The King sweareth not by relickes at the Coronation Genes 24.2 Genes 31.53 Ambros. contr Symmach Homer Iliad ● Vntruth 128. Vntruth 129. Vntruth 130. Vntruth 131. Vntruth 132. Vntruth 133. Vntruth 134. Vntruth 135. Vntruth 136. De incarnat ca. 5. Psal. 132.14 Math. 4.19 De ciuitat Dei lib. 18. ca. 23. L●●quet Rome often taken and sacked since it was Christian The great miseries and calimities of Rome Hieron ad Principium Secūdum computationem Lanquet Cooperi 2. Thessal 2.8 De●ad 1. lib. 2. Co●peri chr●ni anno 455. Blondus dec 1. lib. 10. Cooperi Chronic ann 738. Lanquet anno 414. Anno 460. Cooperi anno 701. Anno 755. Lanquet anno 769. Ann. 773. Anno 525. Ann. 6●6 Ann. 963. Anno 966. Anno 995. Anno 1053. Cooperi Chronic ann 1009. Fox pag. 988. Why the Pope in times past so much preuailed Op●scul tripartit lib. 2. cap. 11. The causes of the ouerthrow of the Greeke Empire Cooperi anno 778. Opuscul tripartit lib. 1. cap. 2. Vntruth 137. The miserable end of Popes Ex Platinae Functio Balaeo de act Roman pontificum Ex Bal●o Platina Functio c. The short raigne of Popes Fox pag. 134.170.394.675.778 edition 1583. Caranza Concilior sum 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Vntruth 138. Bucanan lib. 5. reg 54. Cooper an 646. Vntruth 139 Bucanane vntruly reported lib. 5. reg 52. Cooper an 630. Vntruth 140. Conestaggius lib. 3. de reb Portugall Munster lib. 4. c. 5. Vntruth 141. Munster lib. 4. c. 3. Vntruth 142. Lanquet chron ann 1060. Ann. 1098. Fox pag. 341. Fox pag. 343. Fox pag. 348. Vntruth 142. Vntruth 143. Chron. Cooper ann 920. Vntruth 144. Cooper an 995. Vntruth 145. Lanquet ann 1106. Ann. 1108. Hieronym M●●ius Petr. de vineis Platin. in Innocent 4. Lanquet ann 1254 Vntruth 146. The ruffling of Popes against Emperours Caus. 15. qu. 6. c. alius Caus. 15. qu. 6. c. 5. Naucler Vitae pontific Bull. Adrian Vntruth 147. Iudg. 9. 1. King 16.9 Vntruth 148. Demonst. 2. artic 9. Lib. 2. aduers. Iouinian Vntruth 149. a Ex Jllyric de vocabul fidei b Carion fol. 250. c Fox p. 2106. Vntruth 150. Fox pag. 2112. col 1. Vntruth 151. Bucanan lib. 13. Fox pa. 127● col 1. Vntruth 152. Vntruth 153. Beda lib. 3. histor gent. Anglor c. 1. Beda lib. 2. c. 20 Lib. 3. c. 9. Lib. 3. c. 18. Vntruth 153. Fox pa. 119. Fox pag. 161. Vntruth 154. Fox pag. 152. col 1. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Cod. lib. 4. tit 20. leg 9. Gratian Vntruth 155. Stow anno VVillel 20. Stow. A notable benefactor euill requi●ed Stowe Ex Math. Parisiens Fox pag. 185. Fox pag. 189. Stowe Vntruth 156. Fox pag. 191. col 1. Cooper Fox pag. 199. col 1. Vntruth 157. Fox pag. 185. col 1. Vntruth 158. Fox pag. 228. col 2. Histor. de regib Angl. Stowe Vntruth 159. Fox pag. 227. col 1. Stowe Cooper Ann. 1174. Vntruth 160. Vntruth 161. Stow in King Iohn Caxton lib. 7. Gisbur●e Cooper in King Iohn Stow in Henry the second Vntruth 162. Stow in Henry the third Lanquet in Henry the 3. Vntruth 163. Stowe in Edward the 2. Lanquet anno 1320. anno●387 ●387 1397. Vntruth 164. Vntruth 165. The vnhappie end of Princes deuoted to the Pope Ex Aenea Siluio in histor Bohem. Fox pag. 741. col 1. Fox pag. 180. Lanquet anno 1080. Fox pag. 2112. Ex histor Iornalens Stowe Fox pag. 111. Stowe Fox pag. 132. Stowe ex Asserio Stowe Stovv Lanquet Rich. 2. ann 2. c. 7. Stovv Lanquet Fox pag. 523. col 1. Stovv Lanquet Stovv ex Thom. Mor. Fox pag. 29● Ed. 1. anno 7. Kings of England prosperous that bent themselues against the Pope Ed. 1. ann 25. Ed. ● ann 25. Fox pag. 1071. col 1. ex orat Dom. Radulp. Sa●ler The prosperitie of Queene Elizabeths raigne The vaine hope and expectations of Papists made frustrate Psal. 118 23. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Popish Bishops what learned Clarks Fox pag. 949. Fox pag. 1266. col 2. Fox pag. 1274. Lib. 7. in Lucam 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Pag. 81. Pag. 82. Vntruth 165. The Lord Cromwell defended Stowe anno Henric. 32. Fox pag. 1069. col 1. Fox ibid. Vntruth 166. The good Duke of Sommerset defended Fox pag. 1372. col 2. Vntruth 167. Fox pag. 1408. col 1. Vntruth 168. Visions of Deuils not strange in Poperie Ioannes Stella Platina Ioann Baleus Math. Parisiens Flores histor Sleidan lib. 23. Vntruth 169. The commendation of worthie
so confusedlie hudled together that the paines are greater to marshall them into any good order then to answere them The same part he playeth here heaping vp many things disorderly and carying all along before him as with a violent streame of words Like as Theocritus was wont to say of Anaximenes 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 now beginneth the flood of words and but a drop of wit first I will examine his accusation of errors and bring it into some order vsing still his owne words That is no true Church or Religion wherein many heresies and infidelities raigning are condemned and disclosed P. 6. lin 17.24 But among the Protestants many heresies and infidelities haue beene condemned and disclosed which raigned among them Ergo c. First if the proposition were true then should not the Church of the Corinthians haue beene the Church of Christ among whom there were diuers heresies according as S. Paule said vnto them There must be heresies among you that they which are approued may be knowne 2 By the same reason the Pagane Idolaters might haue condemned the Christians because there did spring vp among them farre more sects diuisions and heresies then among the Gentiles whereof Augustine sheweth the reason Non praeferant nobis quasi concordiam suam hostem quippe quem patimur illi non patiuntur Let them not tell vs of their concord for they feele not that enemie whom we suffer Quid illi lucri est quia litigant aut quid damni quod non litigant What should it profite Sathan if they were at strife or what hindrance were it if they contend not eos vnum licet sentientes possidet he possesseth them though in vnitie de vtilitat ieiun tom 9. In like sort it were not to bee maruelled at though Papists were not deuided for Sathan seeing them to agree together in a false religion hath no neede by other meanes and engines to winne them But where he seeth the true faith and doctrine to be receiued there he bestirreth himself by sects schismes and diuisions to hinder the growth thereof 3. I pray you which is more like to be the true Church that which condemneth heresies that they do not raigne among them as the Protestants haue done or that which suffereth and endureth them as the Popish Church tolerateth Iewes Paganes Mahometanes Maranes The Popish Church doth not onely suffer but practise Iudaisme for euery yeere their vse is to consecrate a Paschall lambe in Missal Roman in fine Vnder Adrian the 6. Demetrius an idolatrous Grecian when the pestilence raged in Rome was permitted vnder the Popes nose Pestilentiae placando numini taurum immolare to sacrifice a bull to appease the Goddesse pestilence Paul Iouius lib. 21. in fine And as for the Marani being driuen out of Spaine they were receiued in Rome by Pope Alexander 6. much against the minde of King Ferdinandus Onuphr in eius vita And at this day in Spaine that abominable sect aboundeth That Church then is rather to be reprooued which tolerateth such prophane enormities then that which condemneth and restraineth them As the Church of Ephesus is commended for hating the workes of the Nicolaitanes Reuel 2.8 but the Church of Thyatira is rebuked for suffering the woman Iezabel that named her selfe a Prophetisse Reuel 2. vers 20. 4. These are contradictorie and repugnant speeches for heresies at the same time to raigne and to be condemned for in that they are condemned and disclosed it is euident that they raigne not for where heresie raigneth it is approoued not condemned Thus much of the proposition Secondly let vs see the probations of the assumption 1. This vnhappie age saith he hath hatched more errors he meaneth among the Protestants then euer any age or generation did in the schoole and regiment of Christ c. p. 5. lin 26.27 Ans. 1. Though he could shew more errors to haue risen in this age yet shall hee neuer prooue them to haue been hatched fostred or nourished by the Gospell or the doctrine thereof 2. Neither can it be iustified that more errors and heresies haue been inuented in this age then in any before for within the space of two hundred yeers after Christ more then an hundred grosse errors were broched In these latter times the heresies that are be neither in number so many setting some diuersities in opinion aside which are no heresies nor yet of so great weight and the most of them are but the old heresies reuiued 2. He bringeth his second proofe from our historians from the Records and Registers of London Norwich from the first protestant Synode c. wherin so many heresies are condemned c. pag. 6. Ans. 1. Our historians make mention that ann Edward 6.4 1551. that Ione Butcher was brent for heresie that Christ tooke no flesh of the Virgine Marie and ann Elizab 3. 1561. as hee noteth in the margin one Iohn Moore was whipped for making himselfe Christ and one William Geffrey for saying he was the Disciple of Christ till they both confessed that Christ was in heauen Will you from hence conclude that the Church of England is no true Church because it punisheth heretikes and phantasticall spirits S. Paul may as well fall vnder your reproofe for excommunicating Alexander and Hymenaeus which had made shipwracke of the faith 1. Timoth. 1.20 and for condemning the heresie of Philetus and Hymenaeus 2. Timoth. 2.17 But this obiection of Ione Butcher condemned for heresie among Protestants might well haue been spared by this Ignatian Frier if he had remembred the like practise or course of one William Postell in France a brother of his owne order with an old superstitious beldame called Mother Iane concerning whom he writ a booke called The victorie of women wherein he maintained that as Christ died for man so his mother Iane was sent of God to saue women and that the soule of Iohn Baptist was transfused into her This wicked woman for these impieties was burned aliue by the sentence of the Parliament of Tolosa But her diuellish instructer escaped which had been more worthie of that punishment Now whereas we are referred to our Chronicles anno 1554. which was the 2. of Queene Mary if his meaning be to impute all errors and heresies that spring vp to the Church where they begin this instance toucheth the popish Church then flourishing it tendeth not to Protestants disgrace If hee send vs to the storie of one Elizabeth Croft there mentioned by Stow which counterfeited a spirit speaking in a wall and vttered diuers words against the Queene the Masse and confession c we can requite this narration with a like storie of another Elizabeth sirnamed Barton a Nunne called the holie maide of Kent in King Henry the 8. his raigne which faining her selfe to be in a traunce as though she had been inspired of the holie Ghost spake diuers things against the King and his proceedings inueighing
Diuine all such then being depriued by the consent of vnlearned noble men Knights of shires c. enacted and decreed matters of religion For it is notoriouslie knowne that during the Parliament ann 1. Elizab. there was a conference and disputation held at Westminster betweene nine of the Popish Clergie Bishops and Doctors with as many of the Protestant Doctors and Diuines whereof one was a Bishop which disputation was broken off by the frowardnes of the popish disputers that wilfullie refused to obey the order appointed Neither as yet when matters of religion were treated of in Parliament were the popish Bishops depriued for the Archbishop of Yorke was then of the Councell and the Bishops of Winchester and Lincolne were not committed to the Tower but vpon their disobedience and contempt of authoritie in violating the prefixed order of the disputation And it is also euident that the acts which passed ann 1. Elizab. had the consent of the three estates of the realme as may appeare by the stile of them We your said most louing faithfull and obedient subiects representing the three estates of your realme in England And it is certaine that diuers learned Diuines were consulted with concerning the affaires of the Church as these reuerend men Scorie Coxe Whitehead Grindall Horne Sands Elmer Iewell with others the meanest of them farre more learned honest godlie then your Parliament diuine Storie who vttered this phranticke speech in the Parliament house that while they laboured about the sprigs they should haue striken at the roote c. with other mad words but he himselfe was happelie not long after rooted out and spued out from the earth as an vncleane thing wherefore there was more then the consent of the vnlearned c. to the things then enacted What a fardell now of lyes hath this glozing Frier bundled vp he hath vttred as many leasings as scribled lines he runneth along and maketh haste as though the truth could not ouertake him as Cypriane saith ita scelera festinant quasi contra innocentiam festinatione praeualeant impietie by haste thinketh to preuaile against innocencie I may compare this fellowes reports as Saleucus did the Locrensian lawes to a spiders webs a flye falling in was taken but a waspe did escape so his sillie and credulous disciples may be entangled with his talke but the discreet reader will deride his follie and breake his snares The third Perswasion I Defend that religion which all most learned and vertuous men of the whole Christian world twentie times gathered together in generall Councels haue euer concluded out of holie Scriptures which many thousands of nationall and prouinciall Synodes c. all Vniuersities Colledges Schooles lawes of all Christian Princes spirituall and temporall haue decreed c. The Disswasion 1 HE had said more trulie that the most vnlearned and vitious men of the world haue approued their religion not the most learned and vertuous which is an idle and fabulous speech Many of the Popes haue been most vnlearned Alphonsus saith Constat plures Papas adeo illiteratos fuisse vt grammaticam penitus ignorarent It is euident that some of the Popes haue been so vnlearned that they were ignorant of their Grammar The like ignorance hath raigned in times past not onely in the Popes but in the whole court and citie of Rome Arnulphus said openly in the Councell of Rhemes Cum hoc tempore Romae nullus sit vt fama est qui sacras literas didicerit c. Seeing there is none at this time in Rome as the fame is that hath studied the sacred scriptures with what face dare any of them teach vs that thing which they neuer had learned And such as was the citie of Rome the whole papall Clergie and priesthoode was not vnlike as what great learning their Massepriests had it may appear by that Canon where mentiō is made of a Priest that baptized In nomine patra filia spirita sancta such as was their latine such was their doctrine both barbrous false 2 Now what vertuous and holie men your Popes haue bin who are the great patrones of the Romane religion it may easily be seene whereas that Sea hath afforded in great numbers 1. Sorcerers such were Iohn 12. Benedict 8. Benedict 9. Gregory 6. Siluester 2. Gregory 7. Paulus 3. with others 2. Murtherers as Clemens 5. Vrbane 6. Iohn 23. Sixtus 4. Alexander 6. Paulus 3. 3. Adulterers as Innocentius 8. Alexander 6. Leo 10. Iulius 2. Iulius 3. Some incestuous Iohn 23. accused in the Councell of Constance that he had knowne his brothers wife Alexander 6. with his owne daughter Lucretia Paulus 3. with his owne sister committed vncleannes Nay these vnholie fathers haue not bin free from the touch of the vnnaturall sinne of Sodomie as Iulius 2. Iulius 3. Sixtus 4. Alexand. 6. Many of them haue been Atheists as is declared before 3 As true it is that all vertuous men haue approued Poperie Of the like truth is the next glosse that they haue 20. generall Councels of their side whereas Bellarmine himselfe numbreth but 18. generall orthodoxall and allowed Councels and fiue of them Lateran 1. Lateranens 2. Lugdunens 1. Lugdunens 2. Viennens are not extant and how then can it be knowne what they decreed 4 He telleth vs also of many thousands of nationall and prouinciall Synodes whereas he is not able to produce one thousand nor yet much aboue one hundred of such Synodes the generall excepted And of all these Synodes generall or particular Oecumenicall or prouinciall where he can shew one for poperie we will bring forth three against it and of all their Canons and Decrees we will vndertake to alleage three to one that shall testifie with vs against them 5 He may be ashamed to say that all Vniuersities haue decreed with them whereas both the Vniuersitie of Oxford gaue publike testimonie of Iohn Wickliffe his sound doctrine and honest life and publikely in the Vniuersitie of Prage his positions were defended by Iohn Husse And King Henry had the iudgement of ten Vniuersities that his mariage with his brothers wife was vnlawfull which notwithstanding was dispensed with by Pope Iulie 2. and ratified by Clement 7. And at this present God be thanked the Protestants haue as many Vniuersities if not more on their side in Germany Denmarke Heluetia the Lowe countries England Scotland and other nations then the Romanists haue for them 6 The Imperiall lawes Prophets Apostles Euangelists holie and learned Fathers Historians Synods Councels Lawes Martyrs Confessors all which this shamelesse popeling boasteth of are against them as hath been sufficientlie proued in more then 300. questions in controuersie betweene the Protestants and Papists 7 Yea he blusheth not to say that their religion is ratified by Sybils and Rabbines before Christ whereas in verie deede they are both
so ample in iurisdiction that no temporall Prince Christian or Infidell no professor of regiment in ecclesiasticall causes c. was by many degrees possessed of so large a regiment 8. Our priuate Priests the most reuerend and learned fathers of the societie of Iesus are honoured of the greatest Princes in the world c. The disswasion 1. NEither doe I defend that religion that diuideth the militant and triumphant Church in robbing God of his honour in giuing it to Angels and Saints against their wils who refused to bee worshipped here in earth as the Angell of Iohn and Peter of Cornelius And therefore God requireth no such honour to be giuen vnto them so that as our Sauiour saith of Moses There is one which accuseth you euen Moses in whom ye trust euen so the Angels and Saints shall be witnesses and accusers of popish superstitious worshippers who honour the creature in steed of the Creator But the religion which Protestants professe and I defend doth make but one familie in heauen and in earth Ephes 3.15 ioyning them together in an holie societie and communion we in earth giuing thankes for them whom God hath deliuered from these terrene miseries and they longing to see vs also with the whole Church to be made partakers of their ioy As Cyprian saith Magnus illic charorum numerus nos expectat parentum fratrum filiorum de salute sua securi de nostra solliciti A great number of our friends doth there looke for vs of our parents brethren sonnes secure of their saluation and sollicitous for ours Other entercourse betweene the Church militant and triumphant there is none neither of our prayers to them that were superstitious for the Lord saith Call vpon me in the day of trouble and I will deliuer thee Psal. 50.15 nor of their help and assistance to vs that were superfluous God is able alone and sufficient to defend his Church as the Angell saith None holdeth with me in these things in the defence of the Church but Michael your prince which is Christ. Dan. 10.21 2. Which doth not that wrong to the faithfull departed to thrust them downe into the extreame paines of purgatorie which they say exceede all the paines of this life when as the Scripture saith that they which dye in the Lord doe from thencefoorth rest from their labours and all teares are wiped from their eyes They neede not therefore any reliefe from the liuing being in ioy and happines 3. Which doth not make any representation of Christ by Images for wee are commaunded not to corrupt our selues in making any grauen image or representation of any figure Deuter. 4.16 Neither doth it presume to offer vp Christ in sacrifice as the Papall priesthood doth because the Scripture saith that Christ doth not offer himselfe often but he appeared once to put away sinne by the sacrifice of himselfe And with one offering hath hee consecrated for euer them that are sanctified But our religion prescribeth the holie Sacrament of the bodie and bloud of Christ to bee vsed according to his institution in his remembrance as our Sauiour himselfe saith Doe this in remembrance of me Whereupon it was thus concluded and resolued in a generall Councell Ecce viuificantis illius corporis imaginem totam panis scilicet substantiam quam mandauit apponi Behold the whole or all the image of that quickening bodie the substance of bread which he commaunded to be vsed We haue then no other commemoration or representatiue image of Christ but onely the Sacrament celebrated according to his owne institution As for blasphemous swearing by instruments of our redemption though too many among Protestants are addicted to that euill custome yet he might haue bin ashamed to obiect it to vs knowing how common a thing it is among Papists to sweare as it appeareth by their own Synode which thus complaineth Quo colore nunc consuetudo passim iurantium in omni negotio excusari possit non videmus With what colour the custome of such which sweare vpon euerie occasion can be excused wee see not Those sacrilegious oathes to sweare by the Masse by the crosse nailes bodie bloud of Christ his wounds by S. Peter S. Anne S. Mary and the rest where els had they their beginning but in Poperie Yea it seemeth that swearing by such is not onely vsuall among them but commendable also for one Sanpaulinus for reprouing one of swearing was suspected to be a Lutherane and thereupon further examined sifted condemned and burned at Paris ann 1551. 4. It is also vntrue that there is no consecration or distinction of callings among vs for both Bishops haue their consecration from the Metropolitane with his Suffraganes and Ministers their ordination from their Ordinaries by imposition of hands which ought to be and is assisted with other Presbyters The Prince doth not challenge any power or authoritie of the Ministrie of any diuine offices in the Church or to conferre orders or consecration but onely by the Letters Patents conferreth the temporalties of Bishoprickes the Metropolitane with his assistance consecrateth as other Patrones present to benefices and the Ordinarie instituteth And this hath been the ancient vse and custome of England and prerogatiue of the Crowne that licence should be demaunded of the King to chuse and his royall consent to be had after election made as it is euident in diuers ancient statutes 5. As for the Papall Hierarchie it is altogether imperfect and out of order 1. The office of the Pope is iniurious and Antichristian taking vpon him to haue iurisdiction and prerogatiue ouer all other Bishops contrarie both to the Scriptures which gaue vnto all the Apostles the same authoritie and to them al the keyes were equallie committed and power to binde and loose Mat. 18.18 And to the Canons for Nicen. 1. can 6. parilis mos the like custome and iurisdiction is decreed to the Patriarke of Alexandria as to the Bishop of Rome Chalcidonens action 16. equall priuiledges are yeelded to Constantinople which is called new Rome as to old Rome The like may be shewed out of the eight first generall Councels The offices of Archbishops and Bishops as wee condemne not absolutely when they are vsed not as titles of ambition but as holesome meanes to preserue vnitie as they should be exercised among Protestants so in the Papall policie wee mislike them being but the Popes creatures and fit props to vphold his Antichristian and vsurped power But concerning your seuen orders of Priests Deacons Subdeacons Acolythists Readers Exorcists Doorekeepers wee hold them as superfluous and vnnecessarie seruices The Apostle sheweth that Christ hath giuen some to be Apostles some Prophets some Euangelists some pastors some teachers for the gathering together of the Saints for the worke of the Ministrie for the edification of the bodie of Christ c. If these bee sufficient to
Poole in Rome only for his reliefe But to make appeales to Rome as to a higher Court and to the Pope as to a superior Iudge is a great derogation to the imperiall dignitie and no well reformed common-wealth can endure it Neyther is England here alone as he vntruely saith but other reformed Churches of Scotland Geneua the Heluetians haue cut off such vnnecessarie and vnnaturall appeales 11. What Kings and Princes haue done in times past in visiting Rome and going in Pilgrimage in their owne persons when they were led with blind deuotion it maketh nothing to vs Of auncient time Princes were wiser and I trust God will open their eyes at the last to acknowledge their error and shake off the yoake of Antichrist according to the prophesie of the Reuelation that they shall hate the whore and make her desolate and naked c. Reuel 18.16 Thus with all his subtilties and shifts of descant this Masse-priests proctor hath endeuoured to free that order from suspicion of treason But as the Prophet Ezechiel sayth He hath daubed vp a wall with vntempered morter Ezech. 13.10 with like workemanship hath he made a bulwarke for his order But as it is in the lawe Particeps criminis non idoneus testis He that is partner in the crime is no sufficient witnes So is he an vnfit aduocate for the Ignatian order being himselfe of that treacherous brotherhoode I could aduise them if they had grace to receiue good counsell that they would not suffer themselues to be any longer abused by their vnholie father to runne vpon the pikes at his pleasure and hazard both their bodilie life and the saluation of their soules not to be so desperate as Scipio his souldiers of whom he boasted that at his bidding they would cast themselues headlong into the Sea What though you would reduce your countrie to your opinion and the obedience of the Pope your purpose is not good your counsels prosper not you are deceiued in the disease which you would cure at the least with perill of bodie and soule you vse too costlie a remedie as Marius to the Phisician that came to cut him of a certaine disease made this answere that the remedie was not worthie of so much griefe The sixt defense 1. FIrst he standeth vpon the glorie of the popish kingdome Consider sayth he the glorie of King Henry the 8. and this kingdome before his fall and their infamie after the short or turbulent season of King Edward and for this present what it is and what like to be c. I leaue to the lamentable consideration of all men now and the pitifull experience of those which shall proue it afterward France Spaine Italy may be named the floures of the world the power and iurisdiction of the Pope more glorious then was euer any Regiment of any spiritual superior the kingdome riches reuenues of the K. Catholike are the greatest of any Monarch p. 100.101 2. Their religion consisteth of all affirmatiue positions teaching dutie to God honor to Magistrates equalitie to all oppression to none c. pag. 101. 3. Quarels and contentions betweene King and subiects Nobles and Nobles as in the time of Henry the 2. haue beene comprimitted by the spirituall Romane authoritie c. rigorous onerations imposed by Princes eased vnappeasable wars with France and other nations brought to an end pag. 101. 4. The Protestants deniall of restitution and confession what wrongs and abuses hath it wrought c. who can now keepe subiects from deuising against Soueraignes c. for want whereof so many suites and actions of law such a multitude of Lawyers what dilatorie pleas non suites c. practised and vncontrolled by Protestants doctrine c. pag. 102.103 5. The Religious Clergie enioyed the third part of the substance of our nation c. which was employed toward the necessaries of their poore chast and single life they did furnish armies more then all the Ministers and Abbey gentlemen the poore were relieued c. were they not better bestowed then in hunting hawking carding courting c. pag. 103.104 6. Catholike Religion left and kept England in amitie and league with the Popedome Empire Spaine c. whereas no historie maketh relation of so chargeable and prolonged wars of this kingdome with other nations as our late and now present Spanish Irish Flemish pag. 104. 7. Lastly he sheweth that by separation from the Roman religion Noblemen and Gentlemen haue lost much learning and knowledge in seeing other Princes Courts and countries Souldiers the skill and honor in armes Schollers the benefite of studie in other Vniuersities Merchants their trade and traffique c. and so he concludeth to this effect that these things considered it were better to be in such condition as England was in in the 22. yeare of Henry the 8. when this reformation began then euer it was by Protestancie since now is or by probabilitie will grow to be in time to come pag. 106. The Answere 1. KIng Henrie his gouernment was as glorious his battailes as victorious his successe as prosperous after the reformation of religion as before if not much more As in appeasing the commotions in Yorkshire and Lincolneshire anno 28. Againe another in Yorkshire suppressed anno 3● Notable victories obtained against the Scots anno 34. And againe anno 36. And in the same yeere he preuailed against the French when Boloigne was yeelded to him King Edwards raigne was neither so short nor troublesome as Queene Maries was which both at home was plagued with mortalitie and famine and abroad dishonoured with the losse of Calice that had been English well neere 300. yeeres This is too vnshamefast dealing to obiect the one and conceale the other Queene Elizabeths raigne hath been most flourishing with loue of subiects at home and honour of other nations abroad and as his Maiestie truly witnesseth She did so long with such wisedome and felicitie gouerne her kingdomes as I must in true sinceritie confesse the like hath not been read nor heard of either in our time or since the daies of the Romane Emperour Augustus As for your lamentable consideration and pitifull experience what England is like to be you shew your selfe herein but one of Baals false Prophets that prophecied good successe to Ahab as you promised to your selues at the next chaunge of the kingdome a glorious day in England and an vtter subuersion of the Gospell As his brother Frier or father Parsons vttereth with the like boldnes God will most certainly at his time appointed restore the realme of England to the Catholike faith againe But the Lord be blessed that hath disappointed their vaine hope and frustrate their wicked desires I trust thorough Gods mercie that England still vnder the Gospell shall see as flourishing daies as euer before As for those flowers of the world c. some of those haue brought foorth but simple flowers
Sir Francis Walsingham Stowe ann 28. Regin Elizabeth Fox pa. 996. col 2. Fox pa. 178● col 1. Lib. de cur pro mortuis c. 3. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Vntruth 169. Vntruth 170. Popish religion a dishonour to Princes Platina Ex Auentino Ex Chronic. v●rnac Stow. Lanquet The ambition of Popish prelates Of Bennets order Of the Popish Archbishops of Canterburie Fox pag. 394. to pag. 396. Popish Archbishops of Canterburie traytors to their Prince Ex Chronic. S. Albani Ann. 21. Rich. 2 tit 16. Fox pag. 440. Fox pag. 588. 641. Stovv Fox pag. 396. col 2. Stovv Ambros. in o●it Valentin Epistol 79. A great sclander of Luther Vntruth 171. A diuelish sclander Vntruth 172. Heapes of lyes and vntruths many 173. Vntruth 174. Vntruth 175. Vntruth 176. Epist. ad frat inferior lib. de potestat secula lib. contr Turc lib. de captiuitat Babylon Luthers opinion of the warres against the Turks Ex Ioann Sleidan lib. 3. Traiterous conclusions of Iudasites Reply to the Manifestat fol. 66. pag. 2. Protestants not bound to all Luthers opinions or sayings Answ. to Apolog pag. 608. Lanquet ann 1534. Fox pag. 1247. art 2 3. Tyndals opinions iustified Fox ibid. Fox pag. 1248. art 18. Fox pag. 1250. art 18. How the faithfull are not vnder the law Fox pag. 1189. Fox pag. 1418. col 1. Stow ann 1547 Fox pa. 1408. col 1. Cod. lib. 4. tit 20. leg 8. Constantin Ad Pammach aduers. Ioann Hierosolymit 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Vntruth 177. Vntruth 178 Vntruth 179. How Magistrates lawes bind in conscience Synops. cont 4. qu. 7. part 1. Faith iustifieth alone but must not be alone Tit. 3.8 The law of precontracts whether in force A great vntruth Matth. 5.32 except for fornication and Matth. 19.9 Whether mariage after diuorce for fornication be lawfull Caus. 33. qu. 2. c. 9. Ambros. in 1. Cor. c. 7. Cod. lib. 4. tit 20. leg 8. Constantin 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Vntruth and sclaunder 180. The number of Parishes in England Stowe Stow 5. Elizab. Restraint of mariage against the ordinance of God Isay 40.13 Plutarch Laconic apophthegmat in Lycurgo Procreation of children Gods blessing 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Forced chastitie mischieuous to a common wealth Fox pag. 860. col 1. Fox pag. 862. col 1. Praefat. Bal. ad librum de actis Romanor pontific Super Cantic serm 66. Plutarch sympos 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Szegedin in specul 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Plat dial 5. de Republic Cod. lib. 4. tit 20. leg 9. Gratian Vntruth 181. The Apologists loose calculations and simple countercasting discouered Fasting not neglected among Protestants Hieron ad Nepotian The manner of popish fasting Parsons Manifestat fol. 4. pag. 2. Ministers progenie not burdenous to the land Of raysing of subsidies 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Pag. 99. Ministers good subiects A wicked ●●ander and ●ntruth 182. Vntruth 183. Popish traiterous position● and practises Manifestat fol. 13. pag. 1. Replie fol. 66. pag. 2. Caus. 33. qu. 6. de poenit c. 1. Innocent 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Vntruth 182. Vntruth 183. Vntruth 184. Vntruth 185. Vntruth 186. Vntruth 187. Vntruth 188. He hath such an intent Vntruth 189. Vntruth 190. It is great disobedience Vntruth 191. Vntruth 192. The disloyaltie of Iudasites and Masse-priests Parsons Manifestat f. 13. p. 1. Replie to the Manifestat fol. 66. pag. 2. Ed. 3. ann 25. ca. 2. Popish priesthood much differing from the auncient priesthood Socrat. 1.5 Theodoret. 5. ● Theodor. 5.33 Ex libro Iornalens Fabian Iesuit catech lib. 2. ca. 16. To acknowledge a forrain Potentate is a treasonable act Elizabeth ann 27. c. 2. Difference betweene the state of England and other countries and free cities Parsons Manifestat f. 16. p. 1. Priests replie fol. 40. pag. 2. Iesuit catechism li. 2. c. 7. Iesuit catechis lib. 3. c. ●● Lib. 3. ca. 13. ibid. Sutclif de Turcopapis lib. 1. ca. 8. Manifestat fol. 67. pag. 2. Iesuites position and doctrine Iesuit Catechism lib. 3. ca. 21. Ibid. Replie to Manifestat fol. 66. pag. 2. Iesuit catechis lib. 3. ca. 18. Princes chiefe in causes Ecclesiasticall Cod. lib. 1. tit 4. leg 1. leg 3. Toletan 3.2 Matisconens in fine Toletan 4.58 Toletan 8. Toletan 12. Appeales to Rome not to be suffered Fox pag. 1229. Cod. lib. 4. tit 20. leg 10. Honor. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Vntruth 19● Vntruth 19● Vntruth 195. Vntruth 196. Vntruth 197. Vntruth 198. Vntruth 199. Vntruth 200. Stow in Henri● 8. Praefat. ad 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Manifestat fol. 57. par 1. The Pope equalized in largenes of iurisdiction Nicen. 1. c. 6. Riches and externall glorie no good argument of religion Popish religion derogatorie to God Stovv The Pope a mouer not a compounder of warres Ex Platina caus 15. qu. 6. c. Iuratos Ex Mario Fox pag. 252. Lanquet anno 1262. Ex Chronic. Thom. VValsingham The Popes intolerable exactions Fox pag. 370. Matth. Paris anno 1215. Ex ●od anno 1247. Anno 1●57 In Praefat libel Steph. Gardi● A Florence is foure shillings sixe pence starling Caxton lib 7. Stovv anno Henri● 8.30 Iesuit catechis lib. 3. ca. 6. Ibid. ca. 20. pag. 204. Abuse of popish cōfession Lateranens concil part 50. cap. 21. Caus. 30. qu. 1. ca. 10. Protestants denie not restitution 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Of the Abbeys relieuing of beggers Of the bestowing of Abbey lands Fox pag. 843. col 1. Of the hindrance of Merchants traffike 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Vntruth 201. Abbeies builded to a superstitious end Ex histor Malmesbur Fox 149. col 1. VV. Malmesb. Decr. Gregor lib. 3. tit 45. c. 1. Vntruth 202. Fox pag. 157. col 1. Fables of incorruptible bodies Stow in VVill. Conquerour Iesuit Catechis lib. 1. c. 17. Of the superstitious choice of Monasticall life Menauinus de religion Turcar c. 2. VV. Malmesb. lib. de reg Vntr. 203.204 Ex histor Malmesbur Of popish holie and vertuous Nunnes Stowe Fabian● Ex historia Malmesbur Vntruth 205. Of Italian and Spanish fashions in apparell Ad Furian Vntruth 206. Mariage more honorable among Protestants then Papists Sclaunder 207. Fox pag. 157. Popes concubines Luitprand Platina Sleidan lib. 21. Guicciardine Agrippa de vanitat scient cap. de lenocinio Sa●seuinus Luitprand Marullus Volaterr geograph Guicciard Bastardie not rare in poperie Manifestat fol. 97. pag. 2. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Hieron Ocean 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Of raysing of fines cutting downe of woods c. Plentie and abundance no good argumēt of religion 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Vntruth 208. Vntr. 208. the Iudasites are all these and not Ministers Vntruth 209. The place maketh not the man 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Answere to the third and fift section Fox pag. 1874. Multitude of popish Saints to be suspected 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Manifest fol. 25.6 fol. 26. a. Ibid. Fol. 25 a. Manifest 107. a. Replie fol. 102 a. fol. 105. a. Manifest fol. 108. a. fol. 112 a. Manifest fol. 97.6 1. Cor. 6. Math. 23. Hieron serm de resurrect Manifest fo 105. a. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Vntr. 210. Vntr. 211. Vntr. 212. Vntr. 213. Vntr. 214. Vntr. 215. Vntr. 216. Fox p. 1865. Fox p. 1874. Fox p. 1418. col 1. Fox p. 1575. col 1. Stow. Augustin breuiat collation 3. Fox p. 395. A●n 21. Ric. 2. titul 16. Fox p. 394. p. 395. Fox p. 156. col 2. Ex Hector Crikeladens Fox p. 117. Fox p. 395. Fox p. 120. Stow in Richard 2. Wil. Malmesbury de viti● lib. 1. Fox p. 1139. Fo. 396. col 1. Act. 14.17 Senec. declamat 2. Plutarch quaest Rom. q. 73. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Vntr. 117. Vntr. 118. Vntr. 119. Vntr. 120. Crat petilian lib. 2.38 Tigur Argentine Fox p. 448. Tidentin sess 4. decr 2. De primat Rom. eccles tom 1. Concil Distinct. 82.2 Iosua 24. v. 15 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 vntr 221. vntr 222. vntr 223. vntr 224. Manifest fol. 4. l●b Repl. f. 72. ● Crat. Petilian 2.89 Manifest p. 97.2 Deut. c. 30.13 14. Lib. 1. de Tranquil vitae 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. Plutar. de curiosit Ad Saluinum 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Cod. lib. 4. tit 1. leg 13. Cod. lib. 4. tit 1. l. 3. Diocletian Caus. 4. qu. 3. c. 3. Lib. 1. de tranquillit vitae Hieron ad Rusticum 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Lib. de sui laude Vntr. 225. Protestants iustifie not whatsoeuer Luther hath written Hom. 25. in Luc. Luthers tentations Luthers constancy Dialog 1. aduers. pelagian 2. Sam. 16.6 Lib. 2. ad Serenum 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Vntr. 226. Vntr. 227. Vntr. 228. Vntr. 229. The Popes intollerable exactions A florence is 4. shillings 6. pence Legatio Adriani 6. excus Wittemberg 1538. Fox p. 860. Iesuits fasting and chastity Hieron regul monachor 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Lib. 1. de Concil c. 5. Synops. pap s. Popish maner of disputation Act. 7 5● Act. 17.18.32 Augustin breuit collation collat 3. diei Ex Egidio Hunnio 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Popish vaine brags of their disputations 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Hieron Occano vntr 230. vntr 231. The long captiuitie of Protestants in time past The Protestants Iubile The Popes ●●bile Dan. 5. Virgilius 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Diuision and enmitie among popish Princes and kingdomes 2. Chron. 15.5 Lib. 3. de spir cap. 18. Fox p 736. cap. 1. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Popish religion reconcileth not to God nor to the Saints Dialog 2. aduers Pelagian 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Hierom. ad Theophil 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Orat. in Auxent 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉