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A34727 Warrs with forregin [sic] princes dangerous to our common-wealth: or, Reasons for forreign wars answered With a list of all the confederates from Henry the firsts reign to the end of Queen Elizabeth. Proving, that the kings of England alwayes preferred unjust peace, before the justest warre.; Answer to such motives as were offer'd by certain military-men to Prince Henry Cotton, Robert, Sir, 1571-1631.; F. S. J. E. French charity. 1657 (1657) Wing C6505; ESTC R221452 67,013 112

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be before the hatred and envy towards it can cease BEsides these locall considerations there will 2. other Dangers now fallout from any Contract of mutuall aide The one from diversity of Intention and the other of Religion In the one when either the Confederate hath safely attained his own secret End whatsoever he pretended in the entrance he leaveth the other to work out his own designes Thus was Hen. 3. served called over by the Earls of Tholouse and March they in the mean time having made their Peace with France Et expertus jam infidem imo perfidiam Pictavensium turpiter recessit festinans non pepercit Calcaribus in so much that having found the treachery and perfidiousness of the Poictovins he was forced dishonourably to retreat and for haste to spurre away the perill the poore King was left in being so great He was handled like to this by Pope Alexander the fourth who having drawn him into the warres of Apulia against Manfred in the end depauperato Regno Angliae undique bonis suis spoliato his Kingdome of England being impoverished and wholly despoiled of its Goods left him to his own shift The King of Navarre calling in the aide of Edward 3. against France and appointing the Isle of Gersey the Rendezvous of their forces revolteth to the French after he had by countenance of that preparation wrought his Peace Maximilian the Emperour to induce Henry 8. not onely contracteth to aid him in person to recover the Crown of France pro tyrannico Rege repellendo and to remove the tyrannicall King they are the words of the League but conferreth upon him in the same Coronam Imperialem Imperium Romanum the Imperiall Crown and the Roman Empire in reversion and estateth the Dutchie of Millain after recovery upon his person suorum naturalium masculini sexus haeredum modo feodorum Imperialium and his heires male lawfully begotten to hold in Fee of the Empire yet in the close left the King to his own fortune his turn for Millain and Verona served Charles the fifth when by the incuision of the French he saw his portion in Italy distressed in safety whereof consisted the whole Pulse of the Spanish as he used himself to say for it supplied his Army with great Levies and was fitly seated for a fifth Monarchy he then ingaged Hen. 8. in the wars of France and bound himself as Bourbon his Confederate that he would assist him to the full Conquest of that Kingdome and the other should become Homager to Hen. 8. as to his Soveraign But after that Bourbon had advanced his Army and distressed the French King he in his answer to Master Pace the Kings Ambassador refused that assurance of duty and gave a just suspition that he by help of his Party intended to usurp upon that State himself which the Emperour never meant to the King of England least by such footing in France he might grow so great as to give law to his neighbours And to fall off upon such grounds hath ever been excusable howsoever the bonds of Alliance were Thus did Hen. 8. as often change his hand of help as either Princes of Spain France got ground of the other And the Spaniard now to keep the States in Italie disunited compoundeth differences at his pleasure or taketh part with the weaker not suffering any though his own dependant to grow too strong which was lately seen in patronizing the D. of Mantua against Savoy according to the Rule of Quinctius in Livy Non tantum interest Aetolorū opes minui it doth not stand us so much in hand to break the strength of the Aetolians yet they were enemies quantum non supra modum Philippum crescere as it doth to see that Philip grow not too potent who was their friend The difference in Religion may bring likewise a twofold danger The one with our Confederates the other with the Subjects of this Crown For whensoever we shall attempt upon a Catholick Prince as France where we have the fairest pretences for with any other we are like to have no question then is all Contract of mutuall aide left to the election of our Danger by difference in Religion in respect of the Confederates who Subjects May break by dispensation though both Catholicks ought to break out of the Rom. doctrine one accounted heretick Confederate who may with all easiness procure from the See of Rome a discharge of all Contracts although they were by Oath For if in Leagues where either party have been Catholicks as that between Edward 3. and Iohn King of France that between Iohn of Caunt and the King of Cast●le they ever out of such suspect inserted this Clause That neither side should procure dispensationem c. either per Ecctesiam Romanam vel per aliquam aliam a Dispensation either by the Church of Rome or any other way to do contra formam Tractatus contrary to the form of Agreement how much more must their jealousie be to us And therefore in a Consultation in Henry the 8s. time whether with best security we should confederate with France or Spain it was resolved that either of them may slip off their advantage by colour of our Separation from the Church of Rome if there be no better hold in their Honesties then in their Bonds For it will be held not onely worthy dispensation but merit to break all Leagues with the enemies of that Church by the Doctrine of that See which teacheth all Contracts with any Catholick Prince to be instanti dissolved because we are by them ranked in the list of Hereticks which holds proportion with the Rule and Direction that Urban the sixth sent by Bull to Wenceslaus King of Bohemia and Charles then Emperor before the Councill of Constance declaring all Confederations Leagues and Conventions to be Lege Divina temerariae illicitae ipso jure nullae etiamsi forent fide data firmatae aut Confirmatione Apostolica roboratae to be by the Law of God invalid void and in law null although confirmed by the plighting of faith nay though strengthened by confirmation Apostolicall if the parties were separatae ab Unitate sanctae Ecclesae separate from the Unity of Holy Church when the league was made or si postea sint effecti if they become so after What assurance can there then be either with France who is received by his Rebenediction into the Bosome of the Church and his sonne made Adoptivus Filius Ecclesiae an adopted Son of the Church or against him with Spain who being Protector and Champion of that See Apostolick submitteth himself as he hath ever done to the Popes pleasure and designe and must not onely forsake but aide against us in any warre we should there undertake Besides it is considerable howsoever all sides of our own will joyn in point of defence to a mutuall aide whether they will so in
means as the Subjects Petitions in Parliament for Expeditissima est ratio augendi Census detrahere Sumptibus the readiest way to raise the Revenue is to take down Expenses they have much lessened their Hospitality their Tables being either defrayed by their Subjects as of Henry the 6. or as Henry the 3. when by necessity ita consueta Regaiis Mensae hospitalitas abbreviata fuit ut posposita solita verecundia cum Abbatibus Clericis viris satis humilibus hospitia quaesivit prandia the wonted hospitality of the Kings Table was sunk so low that without farther shame he many times lodged and dieted with Abbots Clerks and very mean Persons It hath caused our Kings to sell and alienate the possessions of the Crown as Henry the 3. who gave to Edward his son Licentiam impignorandi terram Vascon●ae leave to pawn the Dutchie of Gascoign And caused himself not long after by the like occasions to sell for 300000. l. except some pittances reserved the entire Signiorie of Normandie What our late Mistris and her Father did is yet fresh in memory But this mischief hath trenched deep into the Fortunes and Affections of the Subjects when Princes to repair the breach of their own Revenues have often resumed the possessions of their people as Edward the second anno 5 8 10. Omnes donationes per Regem factas ad damnum diminutionem Regis Coronae suae all the Grants made by the King to the lessening and prejudicing of the King and his Crown Richard the second an 1 did the like of all Grants made to unworthy persons by his Grandfather and recalled all Patents dated since 40. of Edward 3. Thus did Henry the 5. an 1. and Henry the 6. in the 28. of his Reign Edward the 4. in an 3. with all Offices of his Crown granted either by the Usurper or his Brother Neither is this in it self unjust since as well by reason of State as Rules of best Government the Revenues and Profits quae ad sacrum Patrimonium Principis pertinent which belong to the sacred Patrimony of the Prince should remain firme and unbroken But when neither Credit Frugality or Sale of Lands would stop the gulf of want our Princes have been so neer beset as with N●rva and Antonius the Emperors to sell and pawn their Jewells The Archbishop of York had power from Henry 3. an 26. in wars beyond Sea impignorandi Iocalia Regis ubicunque in Anglia pro pecunia perquirenda to pawn the Kings Jewells any where in England to raise money Edward the first sendeth Egidius Andevar ad Iocalia sua impignoranda to pawn his Jewells Edward the 3. pawneth his Jewells to pay the L. Beaumont and the Strangers their wages in war The Black Princes was constrained to break his Plate into Money to pay his Souldiers Richard the second pawned Vasa aurea diversa Iocalia vessels of Gold and divers Jewells to Sir Robert Knowles Henry the 4. an 3. to a Merchant for money invadiavit Tabellam Trisellas suas Argenteas de Hispania ingaged his Tablet and stools of Silver which he had from Spain Henry the 6. gageth and selleth to the Cardinal of Winchester and others an 10 th 12 th and 29. many parcells of his rich Jewells And the late Queen in the end of her dayes to ease her Subjects did the like with many in the Tower And Extremity hath yet stretched some of our Kings to so high a stain of Shift that Edward the third invadiavit magnam Coronam Angliae pawned his Imperiall Crown 3. severall times an 17. in partibus transmarinis in forreign parts and twice to Sir Iohn Wesenham his Merchant first in the 24. and after an 30. in whose custody it remained 8. yeares To Henry Bishop of Winchester Henry the 5. invadiavit magnam Coronam auream gaged his imperiall Crown of Gold in the 5. of his Reign And when Henry the third had laid to gage omnia Insignia Regalia all his Robes and Kingly Ornaments and upon assurance of redelivery or satisfaction had pawned Aurum Iocalia Feretri S. Edwardi Confessoris the Gold and Jewells belonging to the Shrine of S. Edward the Confessour A course more moderate then by force to have taken as William the Conquerour did the Chalices and Shrines of other Churches or as Glement the 7. who to pay the Souldiers of Charles the fifth melted the Consecrated Vessels was in the end when he had neither means of his own left nor reputation with others constrained to beg relief of his Subjects in this low strain Pauper sum omni destitutus Thesauro necesse habeo ut me juvetis nec aliquid exigo nisi per gratiam I am poor and have no Treasure left ye must needs relieve me neither do I demand any thing but of your mere love and courtesy And turning to the Abbot of Ramsey to say Amice obnixe supplico quatenus me juvas mihi centum libras conferendo My friend I beseech thee for Gods sake to help me with 100. pound adding withall majorem Eleemosynam fore sibi juvamen conferre pecuniamve quam alicui ostiatim mendicanti that it would be a greater deed of Charity to contribute to his Wants then to give to one that begged from door to door So that of the waste of these times and want of those Princes I may truly with the Satyrist say Ossa vides Regum vacuis exuta medullis Thou seest the Bones of Kings spoi'ld of their Marrow IT now resteth by some few particulars to observe with what Wealth we have returned home loaden with the Spoils of our Enemies since no motives are so powerful to the Common greedy People as the hopes of gain which will easily enforce them Ire super gladios superque Cadavera patr●● Et caesos calcare Duces Tread upon Swords and on their Fathers Graves And spurn their slaughter'd Captains In the Expeditions of Henry 3. their purchases were so great that the Londoners were more grieved at the intolerable Beggeries that the King and his Army brought back then for the expence of their own moneyes For Cum labor in damno est crescit mortalis egestas When Toil brings Loss Begg'ry must needs increase The same King although called in by the Nobility of France in Faction against their Master returned no better rewarded then Consumpta pecunia infinita Nobilibus Militibus innumeralibus vel Morti datis vel infirmitati vel fame attenuatis vel ad extremam redactis paupertatem with the having spent an infinite deal of money his Nobles and Souldiers without number being either slain or sickly or maimed or half-starved or else reduced to extreme poverty Innocentius the Pope repayed the expence of Henry the 3. and his people in his Sicilian Service with no better wages
k Ex Rot. Par. an E I. H. 6. Britanny a Ex Math. Paris Brest b Rot. Parl. anno 2. R. 2. Ex Comput Tho. Parry Cust astri de B●●t a. 9. R. 2. Callis c Ex comput Williel Horwell in Thesaur Regis d Ex comput Richardi Eccleshall de annis 28 29 30. E. 3. e Ex Rot. Rar anno 2. R. 2. f Ex Comput Rob. Thorley g Ex Comput Simonis de Burg. a Ex Comput Rog. de Wald. anno 13. R. 2. 15. b Ex Comput Joannis Bernam anno 23. R. 2. c Ex Comput Ro. Thorley d Ex Comput Nich. Vske e Ex Comput Rob. Thorley f Ex Comput Rob. Salvin de annis 5. H. 5. g Rot. Parl. an 11. H. 6. h Rot. Parl. anno 27. i Rot. Parl. anno 31. k Rot. Parl. anno 33. l Rot. Parl. 4. E. 4. m Ex comput Majoris Stapulae anno 1. R. 3. n Ex comput origin inter Chartas Roberti Cotton o Ex comput Domini Lisle a Ex lib. de expens Bellor H. 8. E. 6. in Musaeo Com. Salisbur b Ex litera Archiep. Cant. Card. Wolsey a Ex litera Thomae Smith Secret anno 1567. 3. Maii. b Ex comput Joannis Tiptoft c Ex comput Hen. Percy anno 1. H. 4. d Parl. an 11. H. 6. e Ex musaeo Com. Salisbury f Ex comput Williel de Brumleigh Barwick g Ex comput Nicol. Episc Meth an 30. Ed. 3. h Ex comput Tho. Scurla● anno 50. E. 3. Ireland i Ex comput Joan. Spencer de annis R. 2. a Ex Rot. Par. anno 11. H. 6. b Ex amotat Dom. Burleigh ex Musaeo Com. Salisbury c Ex comput Rad. Lane d Ex comput in Musaeo Com. Salisbury Thesaur Angliae Addition of any forreign Title no Honour e Baldus Stile of Normandy and Aquitain accounted by our Kings a vassalage Stile of France restrained by petition in Parliament France possessed would leave us to the misery of a province a Tacit. in vita Agricolae To enterprise any war not so easy Meanes of successe formerly Advantage of Place and Party Advantage of Place a Livy lib. 28. a Math. Paris in vita H. 3. b Math. Par. vita Hen. 3. c Froisard d Walsingham T. Livius Foroliviensis in vita He. 5. Confederates were the onely ground of all the good successe A list of all the Confederates from Hen. the firsts Reign to the end of the last Queen Henry 2. a Ex Contract orig in Arch. Thes West b Ex Radulp. de Diceto c Ex orig signat à Comite Castellanis in Thes West Richard 2. d Ex Radulph de Diceto e Math. Paris 184. a In dorso Cla. an 1. Joannis K●ng John b Ex orig in Thes Westm Henry 3. c Dors Pat. 11. H. 3. m. 11. d Rot. lib. an 14. H. 3. m. 7. ex originali Edward 1. e Claus an 13. Edw. 1. Ex origin in Thesaur g Rot. Vascon an 20. m. 19. h Rot. Alman de annis 22. 31. m. 13. i Ex origin sub sigillo in Thes Westm. k Rot. Alman an 31. m. 14. l Dors Rot. Alman 18. a Rot. Pat. an 34. m. 24. Edward 2. b Rot. Vasco an 9. 11. c Dors Claus an 18. m. 7. d Froisard Edward 3. e Rot. libera 2. m. 6. f Rot. Alman anno 11. g Rot. Antwer anno 12. h Froisard a Ex Rot. Antwerp an 12. b Rot. Parl. anno 14. n. 8. c claus an 18. m. 25. d Dors claus an 18. m. 20. e Dors calus an 19. m. 14. f Froisard g Rot. Pat. an 24. n. 8. h Ex orininali de anno 37. in lib. Ro. Cotton i Ex orig in Thes West de annis 37. 41. K Ex orig sub sigillo l Ex Contract origin in Archiv Thes Westm m Claus an I. R. 2. Richard 2. a Rot. Franc. anno 2. b Ex orig in Thes c Rot. Parl. anno 6. n. 11. d Ex Contract in the lib. Italico Rob. Cotton e Rot. Franciae anno 6. m. 28. f Rot. Franc. anno 12. m. 16 anno 18. 19. g Rot. Franc. an 12. m. 16. anno 18. 19. h Rot. Franc. anno 20. m. 2. i Rot. claus an 2. Hen. 4. Rot. Fran. anno 2. 3. H. 4. m. 6. Henry 4. k Rot. Franc. anno 12. H. 4. m. 21. Henry 5. l Tho. Walsingham m Ex Rot. Parl. anno 4. n Ex orig in Thes Westm a Ex chron Rogeri Wall in vita H. 5. anno 5. 8. b Ex Instruct orig 31. Aug. 5. H. 5. Henry 6. c Ex Contract originali d Ex Tractat. Alrabatensi e Ex tractat Brugens 1442 f Ex tractat Callisiae 1445. Ex tractat Bruxellensi 1446. g Parl. an 7. E. 4. n. 28. Edward 4. h Rot. Franc. anno 8. m. 22. ex contract originali i Rot. Franc. an 11. E. 4. m. 7. k Rot. Franc. an 12. m. 22. ex orig in Thes Westm a Rot. Fran. anno 14. m. 18. 19. b Ex Contr. de anno 1487. pro solutione 50000 scutorum ad 100. annos Henry 7. c Rot. Fran. anno 5. 6. Hen. 7. Contract origin an 8. H. 7. Henry 8. d Ex magno Intercusu de an 1495. e Ex tract original de dat 1513. f Ex litera Max. Imp. Card. Ebor. dat 15. g Rot. Fran. anno 7. H. 8. h Ex tract Bruxellensi 1515. i Ex originali subscript card Sedunensi de dat 1516. k Ex tract Callis anno 1521. l Ex tract orig subscript manu Card. Ebor. Margar. Regent 24. August 1521. a Ex tract Winsor 1522. b Ex tract Cambrens 1529. c Ex tract ultrajectensi d Ex tract de anno 1543. Ex originali dat ultimo Janu. 1547. e Ex instruct Rich. Morison Edward 6. f Ex litera Ducis Somers Magist Pag. 1549. g Ex contract Matrimoniali 1554. h Extract Matr. 1559. Queen Mary i Ex artic subscript à Vidame de Chartres 1562. Elizabeth k Ex s●●der Trecensi 1564 l Ex tract ●l●sensi a Ex tract Londim 1596. b Ex tract cum ordin Belgiae de annis 1585. 1598. Confederats of most benefit to England Princes whose Confederation are of least benefit Bonds of Confederation cannot be the same they were before As with the State of Genoa c Livy Dec. 4. l. 2. d In Relatione de Statu Genoae an 1595. Navarre Britain Burgundie Spain a Paterculus Dangers in Confederacy by diversity of Ends. Examples that ends served Confederates quit all bonds of Combination a Matth Paris 1242. b Rot. Parl. anno 29. E. 3. n. 6. Suspecting that an Allie may grow too great dissolveth alliance Liv. lib. 34. a Ex original in manu Domini Cromwell Doctrine of the See of Rome touching leagues with Hereticks b Ex Bulla origin sub sigillo vrbani 6. an pont 4 Subjects obedient to the Popes Censure a dangerous Party a Ex Eulogio Hist a Festus Amoenus Danger of large Frontiers b Salust in Bello Catil c Suetonius in vita Augusti d Dion Cassius a Tacitus b Ex proposit Statuum de anno 1585. What State may best admit addition c Zozimus in vita Constantini a Velleius Paterc de Expeditione Caesaris b Bodin de Repub. lib. 6. c Ex orat Demosth ad Athenienses Safetie in Neutralitie a Tacitus Dion Cassius Honour attained by Neutrality in being the Arbiter of all differences between the might est Nieighbours a Froisard b Ex Regist libris Tractatuum c Ex Demost 4 Philip.