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A80452 A copie of a letter against the engagement. As it was sent to a minister, who perswaded his neighbour that he might subscribe. 1651 (1651) Wing C6112; Thomason E622_13; ESTC R206436 14,704 16

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for sure 't is possible to commit murder upon a Jew or Turk I am dangerously guilty of Murder Authority is the only Call that can make Fighting to any man a lawfull Calling and having that no particular Calling whatsoever the Ministery only excepted does so exempt or free a Man as he may not lawfully and in some cases ought to Fight But say it should never come to this yet True and Faithfull will oblige us in the mean time in our particular Callings and Professions to governe our selves by their Lawes and in all things to acknowledge and promote their Authority the Lawyer at the Bar the Judge on the Bench to make their Acts the Standard for Aequum and Iniquum and all of us to serve at their Courts and Assizes to submit with chearfulnesse to their Award and Sentence as of Right and Justice to be aiding and assisting to them in our severall places if need be for the execution of it upon others And so the Minister in his Calling to observe their Fasts to rejoyce with them before the Lord on their Victories and Dayes of Thanksgiving to pray for their Successe and being sent into the Desk or Pulpit by them upon Balaams arrand Come curse me Jacob and come defie me Israel to Curse and Pray against the King from thence and all that take part with him To the second wherein we urge it even in that first qualifi'd sence of sitting still if True and Faithfull should mean no more then so to be a Breach however of our Faith and true Allegiance sworn to the King and his Heires your neighbour possibly has never taken that Oath and so has no obligation upon him by that it may be said against this Engagement 2. It is very clear that by the Law he ought to have taken it and 't will be then as clear among all Casuists that no man acquires any priviledge by his own failing and default And therefore though he have not taken the Oath he is not exempted or execus'd by this because he ought to have taken it from that Duty and Allegeance required by it But I answer further every man is brought forth into the world by the Providence of God in the same tearmes of freedome or subjection wherein their Father that begat them then actually stood Thus the son of a Bond-servant of old was born a Bond-servant and S. Paul tells us of himself that he was Free-borne not absolutely free he does not meane so as to be absolv'd from all Obedience and Subjection to Authority for he makes his appeal to Caesar and so we have him standing afterwards at Caesars Judgement seat where sayes he I ought to be judged but free-born as to some certain Priviledges and Immunities in which that he was a Citizen of Rome above the Bond-servants Whence it appears evidently that our Actuall Personall assent is not at all necessary to make us Subjects for that we are born so and withall that we are bond or free born subject that is to say in the same degree with the same burthen of duty and obligations upon us greater or lesse as lies upon our Parents when they beget us And therefore our Fathers taking the Oath of Allegeance does make the duty and burthen of it descend upon us though we doe not take it or were not obliged by the Law to take it in our own persons So Livi is said to pay tythes in the Loynes of his Father Abraham And Saul is accounted to have made that Oath to the Gibeonites as is plain by Gods avenging his breach of it on seven of his Posterity which yet was made by his Fore-fathers the Israelites and their leader Joshua many years before he was borne Sir from our former instance of S. Paul give me leave to observe unto you one main fallacy that has been put upon us for because we are in some records and passages of our Law acknowledg'd by the name of Free-borne English-men and the Free-borne people of England hence diverse pregnant apprehensions have taken advantage to tell us because Free-born Ergo the Dominion and Authority is doubtlesse in our selves and our Govornours no longer to be look't upon as such but while they proceed according to our Law and Dictates and to be accountable and punishable by us therefore in case they shall transgresse Whereas S. Paul greater in Power as free-born as M. Lilburne himself thought not himselfe priviledg'd by this to bring against them a railing Accusation much lesse to rise up against the Ruler of the People though Ananias an inferiour Magistrate sitting to Judge him according to Law he commanded him to be smitten and sure if any thing could have made it lawfull Blowes would have done it and from an inferiour Magistrate and in his own defence and in a case of Religion contrary to Law But to returne to the Engagement 2. The second Argument is we may Subscribe so it be without a purpose to be oblig'd by it He that shall urge this acquits himself fairly I must needs say to be no Heathen Poor ignorant men they liv'd in meer darknesse from this new Light so absolutely destructive indeed to all society and commerce so directly opposite to the Being and Creation of Man who is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that unlesse we can beleeve Christ took not on him the nature of Man but of some other thing which I dare not mention and that he came to destroy the Law of Nature and common Honesty to condemne and abrogate all that was praise-worthy or of good report among us unlesse we can take Machiavels writings for Quintum Evangelium in opposition to the other four we cannot hope to be Christians upon these termes But then it would be consider'd withall how glibly so ever a Lie would goe downe with us a solemne and deliberate Lie yet to enter into this Engagement does necessarily involve us in Perjury whether we performe it or no if we keep it 't is then a Breach to be sure of our Oath of Allegeance or though we doe not but resolve against it Yet the very Subscribing to the Common-wealth of England as 't is established without a King is a plain denying and going against that Soveraignty in the King and his Heires over this Realme which we swore and acknowledg'd in the Oath of Supremacy and we are ipsissimis Verbis though it should never come to ipso facto formally and directly perjur'd An assertory Oath for such is the Oath of Supremacy if it can be broken at all a parte post being violated doubtlesse by saying or subscribing against it as a promissory Oath for example the Oath of Allegeance by not doing it or doing against it though we should not de novo Swear against either of them Sir my Answer to the second Reply in the former Argument will if you please to apply it ease me of all Consideration here whether your Neighbour have taken this Oath of Supremacy or no. 3.