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A56142	A brief necessary vindication of the old and new secluded members, from the false malicious calvmnies and of the fundamental rights, liberties, privileges, government, interest of the freemen, Parliaments, people of England, from the late avowed subversions 1. of John Rogers ... 2. of M. Nedham ... / by William Prynne ...	Prynne, William, 1600-1669.	1659 (1659)	Wing P3914; ESTC R1799	48,614	65

A Brief Necessary VINDICATION Of the Old and New SECLUDED MEMBERS from the false malicious CALVMNIES AND Of the Fundamental Rights Liberties Privileges Government Interest of the Freemen Parliaments People of England from the late avowed Subversions 1. Of John Rogers in his Un-christian Concertation with Mr. Prynne and others 2. Of M Nedham in his Interest will not lie Wherein the true Good Old Cause is asserted the false routed The old secluded Members cleared from all pretended breach of trust The old Parliament proved to be totally dissolved by the Kings death The sitting Juncto to be no Parliament and speedily to be dissolved by the Army-Officers The Oathes of Supremacy Allegiance Fealty to the King his Heirs and Successors to be still binding continuing The New Commonwealth to be the Iesuites Project Ch. Stewart not sworn to Popery as Nedham slanders him The restitution of our Hereditary King and Kingly Government not an Vtopian Republike evidenced beyond contradiction to be Englands true Interest both as Men and Christians and the only way to peace safety settlement By WILLIAM PRYNNE of Swainswick Esq a Bencher of Lincolns-Inne The Second Edition Jer. 51. 9 10. We would have healed ENGLISH BABYLON but she would not be healed forsake her and let us go every one to his own Country for her judgement reacheth unto heaven and is lifted up even to the skies The Lord hath brought forth our righteousness come and let us declare in Zion the work of the Lord our God Ps. 63. 11. But the mouth of them that speak Lies shall be stopped London Printed and are to be sold by Edward Thomas at the Adam and Eve in Little Britain 1659. A brief necessary Vindication of the Old and New secluded Members c. ON the 17. of this instant September during my private retirement in the Country for my health and quiet I received 2. Books fraught with malicious calumnies bitter scoffs insufferable Reproaches against my Self and other secluded Members yea destructive to the very fundamental Rights Liberties Privileges Government Interest of the Freemen Parliaments and Realm of England for which we have so many years contested The 1. of these thus intituled A Christian Concertation with M. Prynne M. Baxter M. Harrington for the true Cause of the Commonwealth c. by J. Rogers A most scurrilous 〈…〉 fraught with absurd impertinercies conjuring canting new coyned a swelling words of vanity odious comparisons bitter scoffs raysing Epethites b loathsom stinking obscene Queres defiling the very air c boyish tricks playing with mens names and reputations which he d severely censures in others yet is most guilty of himself displaying him to be rather a e conjuring Sorcerer than Gospel-Minister an Apostate scoffing Lucian than sober real Christian standing much in need of the f several Pills he prescribes Mr. Baxster to purge his filthy stomack spleen brain heart pen from such rotten stinking humors for the future almost every page in his book being either g Scandalum Magnum or Scandalum Magnatum to use his own expressions against all dissenting from him but an h egregious flattery of his own faction The 2. Interest will not lie Or a View of Englands True Interest by Mar● Nedham which had he intituled Interest will lie Or a View of Englands False Interest by Mar. England it had been a true Character of it The first most furiously chargeth me and my secluded companions in the Van the later in the Rear The one with whole Vollies of fired squibs more like a Whiffler than a M●skateer shooting nothing but wild-fire and i bitter words without bullets The other like a Trumpeter rather than a Trooper sounding a fierce charge against us with his Trumpet without wounding us with his Lance or Sword which are very obtuse To avoid prolixity impertinence and repetitions I shall reduce all the material Differences between us into 6. distinct Questions wherin I shall refute what they have published relating to my self the other secluded Members the Rights Privileges Interest of our Parliaments and Nation with all possible Brevity omitting their personal scoffs and scurrilities The 1. Question Question 1 between J. Rogers and Mr. Prynne wherein Nedham hath no share is but this Whether the Defence maintenance of the true Protestant Religion the Kings royal person authority government posterity the privileges and rights of Parliament consisting of King Lords and Commons the Laws Statutes of the Land the Liberty Property of the Subject and peace safety of the Kingdom were the only True and Good Old Cause for which the long Parliament and their Armies first took up Arms in 1642. and continued them till the Treaty with the King 1648. as Mr. Prynne asserts and proves like k a Lawyer by punctual Evidences Witn●sses Votes Declarations Remonstrances Ordinances of both Houses yea of the Army-Officers Generals Council during all the wars in his Good Old Cause rightly stated his True and perfect Narrative The Re-publicans and others spurious Good Old cause briefly and truly anatomized and in his Concordia Discors Or whether the erecting of a New Commonwealth and Parliament without a King and House of Lords and Majority of the Commons House upon the ruines of the late King Kingdom Parliament since 1648. to 1653. and the reviving of it May 7. 1659. by some swaying Army-Officers and the farr Minor part of the old Commons House confederating with them by meer armed power secluding the greatest Number of the surviving Members and whole House of Lords Which J. Rogers endeavors to prove like a Logician without any evidence witness but his own Ipse scripsit though l professedly disclamed by both Houses of Parliament and the Army too in sundry printed Declarations as the highest scandal never once entring into their loyal thoughts When this Logician with all his Sophistry Anatomy Pills Physick can make that which was never in being but since 1648. as we all know and himself asserts in his Concertation p. 7 9. to be the Good Old Cause in being m long before the last Parliament of King Charles for whose defence they first took up arms in 1642. Or that cause which never once entred into their thoughts and was professedly disclamed till 1648. to be the cause they proclamed and fought for from the wars beginning he must yeeld up his Spurious Good Old Cause as desperate his scurrillous Goos-quils to use his n own words dashing the GALL of his ink upon Mr. Prynnes former papers to little purpose in this particular but to blot them a little not to answer them a line nor the Argument of them in the least The 2. Question is this Question 2 Whether Mr. Prynne with the Majority of the Commons House and whole House of Peers were forcibly secluded the Parliament by the Army for any real breach and forfeiture of their trusts in 1648. or ever legally impeached convicted thereof either then or since before any lawfull

Kings Revenues into their own hands prevent all hopes of future peace settlement and involve us in endless wars changes revolutions as visible sad experience hath evidenced ever since mutinying the common soldiers against us by misreports the very next morning Dec 6. marching with several Regiments of horse and foot to the doors of both Houses ●uarding all accesses to them where they seised my Self with above 40 Members more at the House door going to discharge their trusts pulled two Members out of the House it self secluded and chased away above 200 Members more besides the Lords whole House And whether the passing of this vote alone after 6. years intestine wars at the earnest desire of our whole 3 Kingdoms almost ruined by them according to our judgements consciences Oaths Protestation Covenant Duty and the trust reposed in us by our electors upon such ample Concessions of Liberty benefit to the Subjects security to Religion and safety to our 3 Kingdoms the Army Parliament all adhering to them as our ancestors selves never formerly possessed expected desired and we never since enjoyed nor can expect under any New Republike or Parliamentary Conventicle whatsoever was a breach of our Parliamentary trusts and a closing with the King upon his own terms and such as within a short time would of necessity have yeelded up betrayed our lives liberties and whole cause contested for into the Kings tyrannical power as these Army-Officers and this impudent Mountebank most scandalously affirm let their own consciences and our whole 3 Nations judge the secured and secluded Members in their Vindication and I in My Speech in Parliament and Epistle before it having so largely refuted it that the Devil himself the a Father of lies would blush to revive such a Lie and Slander as this And how destructive it is and hath been not only to the privileges and freedom but being of Parliaments for Soldiers and those who are no Members without hearing or accusation to pull the Major part of the Members out of the House only for voting according to their consciences after free and full debates against the votes or designs of the lesser inconsiderabler part confederating with the Army let all wise men and the sad effects thereof ever since determin 6ly These Army-Officers never impeached any of the then secluded Members for breach of their trusts to those few sitting Members they left behind of their own party by way of Charge or Article to which they might give a legal answer and be brought to a publike trial and when they were pressed to charge some of them they secured as the greatest Delinquents in this kind with particular breaches of their trusts they answered They had yet no charge at all ready against any of them but hoped to provide one in due time which they never did to this day As for their scandalous Answer Jan 3. being no legal Charge against the Members but a pittiful false excuse of their own breach of trust faith duty in seising and secluding them Mr. Prynne in particular in his Epistle to his Speech and the other Members in their Vindication gave such a satisfactory Answer to all the Calumnies in it as they never yet replyed to And therefore must stand clear from this Scandalum Magnum Magnatum in the sight of God and Man 7ly Sundry of the Members sitting since our seclusion and now again have confessed to me that our seclusion was most unjust and that their forcible seclusions since April 20. 1653. and in 1654. was but a just retaliation and punishment of God upon them for consenting to our unjust seclusion in December 1648. yea a means to deprive us from all future hopes of a free Parliament so long as we had any standing Army in England And yet must we be guilty of breach of trust 8ly Major ●acker himself an Anabaptist then and now again a Member of the Army in the last Convention at Westminster publikely acknowledged in the House in a long Speech that he and others of the Army who had a hand in securing and secluding us were seduced and instigated thereunto by Cromwels and Iretons suggestions that wee were dishonest men who pursued our own private interests and the Kings to the prejudice of the publike But afterwards he clearly discerned That we were very honest Gentlemen pursuing nothing but the publike Interest acting according to our consciences and that he had often cryed God mercy in private and did there again and again cry them mercy in publike and hoped they would all forgive him for having a hand in secluding us which he oft repeated And others have acknowledged they were knaved and fooled into this Action by slanderous Misinformations Wherefore malice it self must needs acquit us from this forged Calumny 9ly Those principal Officers of the Army who accused and secluded us as Trust-breakers in Dec. 1648. both accused those who sate from 1648. till April 20. 1653. turned them all out of doors and declared them actually dissolved for sundry years as farr greater Infringers of their Parliamentary trusts than we stiling them in a two printed Declarations A Corrupt party carrying on their own Designs to perpetuate themselves in the Parliamentary and Supreme Authority never answering the ends which God his People and the whole Nation expected from them c. Therefore if their single accusation of us alone by way of Answer which we refuted in print disabled us for ever to sit in the House since 1648. and now again since May 7 1659. by Nedhams and Rogers resolutions and the Army-Officers who secluded us Then much more this their doubled and trebled Accusation against all sitting after our seclusion and now resitting by way of Declaration which they never yet answered must much more disable them now to sit and act again as a House especially without us as Members of that Parliament if continuing still in being 10ly The trust reposed in all Members of the Commons House secluded or unsecluded in the last Parliament of King Charles is punctually expressed comprised in the Writs and Indentures by which they were chosen returned empowred trusted to fit and act as Members by the Commonalties who elected them and in the Oathes of Supremacy and Allegiance which they all took and ought to take by the Statutes of 5 Eliz. c. 1. 7 Jac. c. 6. before they could sit or vote as Members Now this trust was wholly and solely to do and consent to those things which should happen to be ordained by Common Consent of the King Lords and Commons by Common counsel of the Realm concerning certain arduous and urgent affairs touching the Defence State Crown of the King and his Kingdom and of the Church of England to bear faith and true Allegiance to the King his heirs and successors and him and them to defend with all rights jurisdictions annexed and belonging to the Imperial Crown of England against all attempts and conspiracies whatsoever As

of the earth The Lord which sitteth in heaven be his Defender for ever and ever through Jesus Christ our Lord Amen After sundry such prayers and his Coronation all the Spiritual Temporal Lords present kneel down and do their Homage to him in these words I become your Man and shall be faithfull and true and troth bear unto you our Soveraign Lord and to your heirs Kings of England of life and limb and of earthly worship against all men that now live and die And I shall do and truly knowledge the service of the Lands which I claim to hold of you So God help me All of them kissing the Kings left cheek The Homage being ended they all touch the Crown with their hands by way of Ceremony as promising to support it with all their power Which done they All holding up their hands together in token of their Fidelity with one voyce on their knees say We offer to sustein and defend you and your Crown with our Lives lands and goods against all the world and with one voyce cry God save King CHARLES Which all the people follow with reiterated shouts and acclamations After the Coronation of every King and of our last King Charles in all Churches Chapels and religious Families throughout his Dominions and in both Houses of Parliament every day they sate as well after as before the wars constant publique and private prayers were continually made to like effect for Him and His royal posterity as the Liturgy Collects in the Book of Common Prayer the Directory it self the Practice of Piety other Prayer-books prescribing forms of Prayer for private persons and Families morning and evening and every mans experience attest yea such was our zeal and devotion in this kinde that most persons concluded all their Graces before and after meat with this prayer or the like in effect God save his Church our King Prince the Royal issue and Realms God send us peace in Christ our Lord Amen As being Englands true Interest both as Men and Christians How can how dare we then unpray renounce abjure engage subscribe vote fight against all those publike private prayers Graces we thus constantly fervently made to God for sundry years together and the Oathes Homage Fealty Protestation Solemn League and Covenant we successively swore in the name presence of Almighty God with hands and hearts lifted up to him by praying engaging subscribing voting fighting against the Kings right Heir Successor and Royal Issue and banishing dishinheriting renounci●g abjuring secluding them out of all our Churches Prayers Realms for ever to set up an Vtopian Republike without * mocking God himself to his very face willfully violating this Evangelical precept contradicting the practice of all the Churches Saints of God in all ages places yea disclaiming Englands publike with our own private Interest and forfeiting our own eternal Interest in Heaven as we are Saints and Christians I beseech all Christian Englishmen in the name and fear of God most seriously to consider and lay it close to their consciences without delay and examine how they can justifie excuse it either to God or Man 3ly By the extraordinary inundation growth increase of all sorts of Blasphemies Heresies Errors Religions Sects Atheism Irreligion prophanesse contempt rejection denial of Gods word Sacraments Ministers Ordinances Prayer singing of Psalms Catechising repetition of Sermons Apostacy Lukewarmnesse Hypocrisie Perjury Spiritual and outward pride effeminacy luxury whoredom incest hypocrisie formality envy hatred malice back-biting slandering sacrilege libertinism covetousnesse oppression cruelty all sorts of ●ins and wickednesses whatsoever The strange decay decrease of true real Christian zeal piety devotion faith love charity brotherly kindnesse heavenly mindednesse contempt of the world fear of Gods threatnings judgements and all other Christian graces virtues substractions of Ministers Tithes Dues Glebes Rewards Pensions Benefices Augmentations scorned reviled railed against disturbed persecuted by Sectaries Quakers sequestred suspended ejected silenced by Arbitrary Committees as meer Tenants at will of their Ministry and Freeholds ever since the abolishing of Kings their Nursing-Fathers by those various Step Fathers and Plunderers of the Church and Ministers who have hitherto succeeded them and given publike toleration protection to all Religions Sects Seducers almost to the total extirpation of the true Orthodox Reformed Religion throughout our Dominions To this I shall adde that as there neither is nor can be any possible ease or cure of dislocated fractured joynts bones limbs in the natural body nor restitution of health and soundnesse to it by any unguents cerots balms bolsters or artifices whatsoever but only by the timely speedy restitution of every bone joynt member to its proper place and keeping them therein by strong astringent medicaments and ligaments So all our new State-physicians Chirurgions a Politicians Councils at Westminster White-hall or in the Army with all their ar● skill for near 12. year● space together by all their New-projected models of Republikes Parliaments Governments since the abolishing KingS and Kingship could not hitherto ease cure or restore to health the inverted broken bodies of our Church State which have grown every year more and more consumptive convulsive decrepit incurable disquieted tormented and lie now at the very point of death under all their several applications as we feel by sad experience because they have not endeavoured to restore the fractured dislocated chief Members bones joynts there of to their proper places but laboured all they could to keep and put them further out When as there neither is nor can be any probable or possible way of restoring ease health soundnesse safety prosperity to them but by a speedy restauration of their lawfull hereditary Head and Noblest Members to their due places offices in them This consideration not only the secured and secluded Members made the ground-work of their premised Vote Decemb. 5. 1648. upon the long Debate but likewise both Houses Kingdoms and those now sitting together with them the basis of their Protestation League Covenant Petitions to and Treaties with the late King and of these two Memorable Protestations Passages in their b Declarations of October 22. and Novemb. 2. 1642. worthy consideration We the Lords and Commons in this present Parliament assembled do in the presence of Almighty God for the satisfaction of our Consciences and the Discharge of that great trust which lies upon us make this Protestation and Declaration to the Kingdom and Nation and the whole World That no private passion or respect no evil intention to his Majesties person no design to the prejudice of his Just Honor and Authority engaged us to raise forces or take take up Arms against the Authors of this war wherewith the Kingdom is now enflamed and We have alwaies desired from our hearts and souls manifested in our a●tions and proceedings and in several humble Petitions and Rem●nstrances to his Majesty professed our Loyalty and obedience to his Crown readiness and resolution to defend his

the Writs and Returns themselves yea all a antient Writs of this kinde and their returns and the expresse words of these Oathes resolve with the Protestation League Covenant and manifold Declarations Votes Remonstrances of both Houses to which those sitting from 48. to 53. and now met again gave their full free consents and subscriptions as well as the secluded Members Let heaven earth our whole 3. Kingdoms and our Accusers themselves then now resolve whether I and my secluded Companions who constantly loyally strenuously in the forecited vote and all other our proceedings pursued those Trusts Oathes Duties in despite of all Oppositions or those unsecluded sitting re-sitting Members and Army-Officers who have most apparently perfidiously violated them in every branch by and since our seclusions to the destruction of our King Kingdoms Kingship Parliament Church all rights and Jurisdictions of the Crown and subversion of the Liberty Property Privileges of their fellow Members and all other subjects be the Greatest Trust-breakers Traytors and which of us best deserve to lose not only our right of sitting any more in the House but our very lives heads liberties estates in point of justice and conscience All that is or can be objected against us with any shadow of reflection is the a Vote of January 11. 1648. made upon the Armies Answer touching our securing Jan 3. That the House doth approve of the Substance of the 〈◊〉 of the General 〈◊〉 of the Officers of the 〈◊〉 to the Demands of this House touching the securing 〈◊〉 secluding of some Members thereof And doth appoint a Committee of 24. or any 5. of them to consider what is further to be done upon the said Answer and present the same to the House But doth this Vote fix any breach of trust upon us for which we deserved perpetual seclusion without any hearing impeachment trial Surely not in the least degree For 1. it approves only the substance of the Armies Answer which is general and indefinite 2ly It is not touching the securing and secluding of all the Members then secured or secluded by the Officers but only of some of those Members who were secured as well as secluded without naming any one of them in particular most of them being released before this vote Therefore it can fix no guilt or crime upon any one particular Member of us unlesse those some had been nominated 3ly This Vote was past behind our backs without hearing any of us before it passed 4ly A special Committee was appointed to consider further of their answer and report what was further to be done therein which they never did 5ly This Vote was made above a full Month after our secluding and securing when all the Members but 42. were secluded or driven thence and the rest sitting under the Force Guards of the Army and so by their own Votes and Ordinance of August 20. 1647. this Vote with all their other proceedings were mere Nullities 6ly Ten of those who passed this Vote were the very Army-Officers who made the Answer the chief Contrivers Authors of our seising securing and chief Accusers Therefore most unfit to be our Judges or passe any Vote against us behind our backs especially since they promised to conferr with us at Wa●●ingford House the Evening they seised us and yet lodged us all night on the bare boards in Hell After which they promised to confer with us the next morning 9. a clock at Whitehall there kept us fasting waiting in the cold till 7. at night without once vouchsafing to see us sending us away thence through the dirt guarded on every side like Rogue● to the Kings head and Swan in the Strand where they promised several times to conferr with us but never came to do it Now whether there can be any credit given to their Votes or Answer who so frequently brake both their trusts words faiths promises to us and others before this their Answer let the world and our greatest Enemies determin Finally the chief Authors of and instruments in this our Accusation and seclusion were the very self-same Army-Officers and Members who in April 1653 dishoused * dissolved those now sitting and then accused branded them twice or thrice in print as farr greater Infringe●s o● their trusts than we as for the House of Lords secluded suppressed by them a there was never the least breach of trust objected against them Neither had the Army b or smaller Garbled remainder of the Commons house the least right or jurisdiction to seclude or eject the Majority of their fellow Members much lesse the whole House of Peers Upon all which premi●es I here appeal to all the Tribunals of Men on Earth and Gods Christs Tribunals in Heaven before which I summon all our Old and New Accusers whatsoever to judge Whether this Great Charge of breach of our trusts ever justly could or henceforth can be objected against us civilly or criminally without the greatest scandal and whether this could be a lawfull ground for any to justifie our first or last seclusion The 3d Question is this Question 3 Whether the last Parliament sumne●ned by King Charles his Writ assembled at Westminster 3. Nov 1640. was not totally and finally dissolved by his beheading January 30. 1648. notwithstanding the statute of 17 Caroli c. 7 In this my 2. new Antagonists are divided Rogers p. 7. conf●sseth it to be dissolved and that I have learnedly proved it in my Narrative p. 24 to 34. Adding How Néedlesse that long Discourse is to prove what we never denied But though he and his wee denied it not yet those who sate from 1648. till 16●3 by pretext of their first writs elections and of this Act as they then affirmed in and by their Speeches Declarations Mr. Abbot and Purefoye in their Prynne against Prynne both of them Members and one of them now sitting with their President J. Bradshaw who condemned the King and sundry others denyed it yea most now sitting denyed it by words and action whereupon I unanswerably refelled them and satisfied most others by that long Discourse Therefore it was not needless as this Critick rashly censures it Nedham p. 35 36 37. though he confesseth That according to Law the Parliament was d●ssolved by the Kings death and that whiles the old Constitution of Parliaments remained without disturbance it is reason this Law should be retained for the reasons I have rendered Yet in this particular case by reason of the warr between King and Parliament he will by no means yeeld the Parliament to be dissolved by the Kings death but to remain intirely in the Members sitting at his death and that it is now again revived in them after above 6. years interruption to prove which strange Chymara by stranger Mediums he * spends some pages to convince and satisfie all Contradictors I shall a little examin his absurd and most dangerous Principles from whence he draws his Conclusion His main Principle to