Selected quad for the lemma: england_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
england_n	allege_v	answer_n	answer_v	24	3	5.4285	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A57925	The Tryal of Thomas, Earl of Strafford, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, upon an impeachment of high treason by the Commons then assembled in Parliament, in the name of themselves and of all the Commons in England, begun in Westminster-Hall the 22th of March 1640, and continued before judgment was given until the 10th of May, 1641 shewing the form of parliamentary proceedings in an impeachment of treason : to which is added a short account of some other matters of fact transacted in both houses of Parliament, precedent, concomitant, and subsequent to the said tryal : with some special arguments in law relating to a bill of attainder / faithfully collected, and impartially published, without observation or reflection, by John Rushworth of Lincolnes-Inn, Esq.	Strafford, Thomas Wentworth, Earl of, 1593-1641, defendant.; Rushworth, John, 1612?-1690.; England and Wales. Parliament. House of Commons.	1680 (1680)	Wing R2333; ESTC R22355	652,962	626

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lord_n and_o by_o other_o in_o his_o absence_n because_o my_o lord_n have_v deny_v he_o before_o the_o petition_n subscribe_v by_o my_o lord_n deputy_n himself_o be_v read_v my_o lord_n acknowledge_v it_o to_o be_v under_o his_o own_o hand_n to_o the_o right_n honourable_a the_o lord_n viscount_n wentworth_n etc._n etc._n the_o humble_a petition_n of_o dermond_n mac-carty_n show_v that_o your_o petitioner_n for_o his_o private_a occasion_n special_o for_o better_a breed_n and_o education_n be_v desirous_a to_o travel_v into_o the_o realm_n of_o england_n he_o therefore_o most_o humble_o pray_v your_o lordship_n will_v be_v please_v to_o licence_n and_o dispense_v with_o his_o journey_n thither_o and_o he_o will_v ever_o pray_v etc._n etc._n dublin-castle_n 28_o june_n 1637._o for_o our_o reason_n best_a know_v to_o ourselves_o we_o think_v it_o not_o fit_a to_o grant_v the_o petitioner_n request_v but_o do_v rather_o hereby_o express_o inhibit_v and_o forbid_v he_o to_o transport_v 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strafford_n of_o high_a treason_n against_o our_o sovereign_a lord_n the_o king_n his_o crown_n and_o dignity_n and_o he_o the_o say_a earl_n of_o strafford_n be_v lord_n deputy_n of_o ireland_n or_o lord_n lieutenant_n of_o ireland_n and_o lieutenant_n general_n of_o the_o army_n there_o under_o his_o most_o excellent_a majesty_n and_o a_o swear_a privy-counsellor_n to_o his_o majesty_n for_o his_o kingdom_n both_o of_o england_n and_o ireland_n and_o lord_n precedent_n of_o the_o north_n during_o the_o time_n that_o all_o and_o every_o the_o crime_n and_o offence_n before_o set_v forth_o be_v do_v and_o commit_v and_o he_o the_o say_a earl_n be_v lieutenant_n general_n of_o his_o majesty_n army_n in_o the_o north_n part_n of_o england_n during_o the_o time_n that_o the_o crime_n and_o offence_n in_o the_o 27_o and_o 28_o article_n set_v forth_o be_v do_v and_o commit_v tuesday_n may_v 11_o 1641._o ordered_n that_o mr._n solicitor_n give_v order_n that_o the_o argument_n he_o make_v 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ibid._n line_n 43._o mr._n maynard_n fol._n 120._o line_n 20._o mr._n pym._n fol._n 124._o line_n 27._o mr._n pym._n fol._n 127._o line_n 29._o mr._n pym._n to_o the_o first_o article_n fol._n 138._o line_n 29._o mr._n maynard_n fol._n 139._o line_n 3._o m._n maynard_n fol._n 142._o line_n 17._o m._n maynard_n ibid._n line_n 24._o mr._n whitlock_n fol._n 143._o line_n 7._o mr._n glyn._n ibid._n line_n 15._o mr._n maynard_n ibid._n line_n 25._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 144._o line_n 2._o mr._n maynard_n fol._n 145._o line_n 3._o mr._n maynard_n fol._n 147._o line_n 31._o mr._n maynard_n to_o the_o second_o article_n fol._n 149._o line_n 14._o mr._n maynard_n fol._n 153._o line_n 6._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 152._o line_n 14._o mr._n maynard_n ibid._n line_n 16._o mr._n maynard_n ibid._n line_n 18._o mr._n maynard_n fol._n 154._o line_n 4._o mr._n maynard_n ibid._n line_n 32._o mr._n maynard_n fol._n 155._o line_n 7._o mr._n maynard_n to_o the_o three_o article_n fol._n 156._o line_n 8._o mr._n maynard_n fol._n 164._o line_n 9_o mr._n maynard_n ibid._n line_n 22._o mr._n glyn._n ibid._n line_n 17._o mr._n maynard_n ibid._n line_n 28._o mr._n maynard_n fol._n 165._o line_n 7._o sir_n io._n clotworthy_n ibid._n line_n 36._o mr._n maynard_n fol._n 167._o line_n 25._o mr._n pym._n fol._n 157._o line_n 11._o mr._n maynard_n fol._n 168._o line_n 16._o mr._n pym._n fol._n 158._o line_n 2._o lord_n digby_n ibid._n line_n 25._o mr._n pym._n ibid._n line_n 37._o mr._n maynard_n ibid._n line_n 34._o mr._n maynard_n fol._n 163._o line_n 42._o mr._n maynard_n fol._n 171._o line_n 28._o mr._n maynard_n to_o the_o four_o article_n fol._n 173._o line_n 30._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 183._o line_n 10._o mr._n maynard_n fol._n 174._o line_n 8._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 184._o line_n 11._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 179._o line_n 44._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 185._o line_n 1._o mr._n maynard_n fol._n 180._o line_n 37._o mr._n maynard_n to_o the_o five_o article_n fol._n 185._o line_n 21._o mr._n glyn._n ibid._n line_n 35._o mr._n maynard_n fol._n 188._o line_n 17._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 202._o line_n 31._o mr._n maynard_n fol._n 198._o line_n 1._o mr._n glyn._n ibid._n line_n 36._o mr._n maynard_n fol._n 201._o line_n 19_o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 204._o line_n 5._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 202._o line_n 7._o mr._n maynard_n to_o the_o six_o article_n fol._n 205._o line_n 6._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 216._o line_n 22._o mr._n maynard_n fol._n 206._o line_n 31._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 217._o line_n 21._o mr._n palmer_n ibid._n line_n 37._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 218._o line_n 17._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 210._o line_n 38._o mr._n glyn._n ibid._n line_n 21._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 213._o line_n 23._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 219._o line_n 32._o mr._n stroud_n ibid._n line_n 29._o mr._n glyn._n to_o the_o eight_o article_n fol._n 222._o line_n 8._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 228._o line_n 10._o mr._n glyn._n ibid._n line_n 34._o mr._n glyn._n ibid._n line_n 26._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 223._o line_n 22._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 229._o line_n 11._o mr._n glyn._n ibid._n line_n 42._o mr._n maynard_n ibid._n line_n 33._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 226._o line_n 42._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 233._o line_n 25._o mr._n glyn._n to_o the_o nine_o article_n fol._n 236._o line_n 16._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 239._o line_n 14._o mr._n maynard_n fol._n 238._o line_n 22._o mr._n glyn._n fol._n 240._o line_n 10._o mr._n glyn._n the_o trial_n of_o t._n earl_n of_o strafford_n the_o first_o day_n monday_n march_v 22._o 1640._o the_o lord_n be_v set_v in_o a_o place_n prepare_v in_o westminster-hall_n purposely_o for_o the_o arraignment_n of_o thomas_n earl_n of_o strafford_n upon_o a_o charge_n of_o high_a treason_n lay_v upon_o he_o by_o the_o commons_o house_n of_o parliament_n in_o the_o name_n of_o themselves_o and_o of_o all_o the_o commons_o of_o england_n and_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o be_v there_o likewise_o seat_v as_o a_o committee_n and_o those_o who_o be_v to_o manage_v the_o evidence_n on_o behalf_n of_o 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