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B17220	The arraignment, tryal, and condemnation of Sir John Friend, knight for high treason in endeavouring to procure forces from France to invade this kingdom, and conspiring to levy war in this realm for assisting and abetting the said invasion, in order to the deposing of His Sacred Majesty King William, and restoring the late king : at the sessions-house in the Old-Bayly, on Monday March 23, 1695/6 ...	Friend, John, Sir, d. 1696.; England and Wales. Court of Quarter Sessions of the Peace (Middlesex)	1695 (1695)	Wing A3759; ESTC R18506	64,554	47

Kingdom of England into intolerable and most miserable Slavery to the aforesaid French King to Subdue and bring the first day of July in the Seventh year of the Reign of our said Sovereign Lord the King that now is and divers other days and times as well before as after at London in the Parish of St. Peter Cornhill in the Ward of Limestreet falsely maliciously devilishly and traiterously did compass imagine contrive purpose and intend our said Sovereign the Lord the King that now is then your Supreme True Natural Rightful and Lawful Sovereign Lord of and from the Regal State Title Honour Power Crown Command and Government of this Kingdom of England to Depose cast Down and utterly to Deprive and our said Sovereign Lord the King to Death and final Destruction to put and bring and the aforesaid Lewis the French King by his Armies Soldiers Legions and Subjects this Kingdom of England to Invade Fight with Overcome and Subdue to move incite procure and help and a miserable slaughter among the Faithful Subjects of him our said Sovereign Lord the King throughout this whole Kingdom of England to make and cause and that you the said Sir John Friend to the aforesaid Enemies of our said Lord the King that now is then and there during the War aforesaid Traiterously were adhering and assisting and the same your most impious wicked and devilish Treasons and traiterous compassings intentions and purposes aforesaid to fulfill perfect and bring to effect and in prosecution performance and execution of that traiterous adhesion you the said Sir John Freind as such a false Traytor during the War aforesaid to wit the same first day of July in the year abovesaid at London aforesaid in the Parish and Ward aforesaid and divers other days and times as well before as after there and elsewhere in London aforesaid falsly maliciously advisedly secretly and traiterously and with Force and Arms c. with one Robert Charnock late of High-Treason in contriving and conspiring the Death of our said Sovereign Lord the King that now is duly convicted and attainted and with divers other false Traytors to the Jurors unknown did meet propose treat consult consent and agree to procure from the aforesaid Lewis the French King of his Subjects Forces and Soldiers then and yet Enemies of our said Sovereign Lord the King that now is great numbers of Soldiers and Armed men this Kingdom of England to Invade and Fight with and to levy procure and prepare great numbers of Armed men and Troops and Legions against our said Lord the King that now is to rise up and be formed and with those Enemies at and upon such their Invasion and Entry into this Kingdom of England to join and unite Rebellion and War against him our said Lord the King within this Kingdom of England to make levy and wage him our said Lord the King so as aforesaid to Depose and him to Kill and Murder and moreover with the said false Traytors the same first day of July in the year abovesaid at London aforesaid in the Parish and Ward aforesaid Traiterously you did consult consent and agree to send the aforesaid Robert Chernock as a Messenger from you the said Sir John Friend and the same other Traytors unknown unto and into the Kingdom of France in parts beyond the Seas unto James the Second late King of England to propose to him and desire of him to obtain of the aforesaid French King the Soldiers and Armed men aforesaid for the Invasion aforesaid to be made and Intelligence and Notice of such their Traiterous Intentions and Adhesions and all the Premises unto the said late King James the Second and the said other Enemies and their Adherents to give and exhibit and them to inform of other particular things and circumstances thereunto relating as also Intelligence from them of the said intended Invasion and other things and circumstances concerning the Premises to receive and the same to you the said Sir John Freind and the said other Traytors in this Kingdom of England to signify report and declare in Assistance Animation and Aid of the said Enemies of our said Lord the King that now is in the War aforesaid and to incite and procure those Enemies the more readily and boldly to Invade this Kingdom of England and the Treasons and Traytorous Contrivances Compassings Imaginations and Purposes of you the said Sir John Freind aforesaid to perfect and fulfil and all the Premises the sooner to execute manage and perform you the said Sir John Freind during the War aforesaid so as aforesaid continued to wit the same first day of July in the abovesaid Seventh Year of the Reign of our said Lord the King that now is at London aforesaid in the Parish and Ward aforesaid falsly and traiterously did procure and obtain to your self and did receive and accept of a certain Commission or Writing purporting it self to be a Commission under and from the aforesaid James the Second late King of England to constitute you the said Sir John Freind to be a Collonel of Horse in the Army by you and the other false Traytors against our said Lord the King that now is within this Kingdom of England to be levied and formed and in pursuance of the said pretended Commission by you the said Sir John Freind so obtained and accepted of and your Treasons and all your Traiterous Intentions aforesaid the sooner to execute perform fulfil and perfect You the said Sir John Freind afterwards to wit the same First Day of July in the Seventh Year abovesaid at London aforesaid in the Parish and Ward aforesaid Falsly Maliciously Advisedly Secretly and Traiterously Divers Soldiers and Armed Men and ready to be Armed with Force and Arms c. To Raise and List and War and Rebellion against our said Lord the King within this Kingdom of England to make and wage And to and with the said Enemies of our said Lord the King Foreigners and Strangers Subjects and Soldiers of the said Lewis the French King being about to invade this Kingdom of England at and upon their Invasion and Entry into this same Kingdom then shortly expected to be made Themselves together with You the said Sir John Freind to join and unite and in Troops and Legions to form did Raise List and Retain and did procure to be Raised Listed and Retained And divers Sums of Money in and about the Raising Listing and Retaining of the aforesaid Soldiers and Men Armed and ready to be Armed upon the Account aforesaid upon the aforesaid First Day of July in the Seventh Year abovesaid at London aforesaid in the Parish and Ward aforesaid Falsly Maliciously and Traiterously Did give and pay and cause to be paid And those Soldiers and Men for the Treasons Intentions and Purposes aforesaid then and there and long after you had in readiness As also the same First Day of July in the Seventh Year abovesaid at London aforesaid in the Parish and Ward

discoursed him about the principal matters of fact that are now sworn at least 2 years ago and besides his Evidence and the Evidence of Blair concur in this particular that he was to be Lieutenant in Blair's Troop My Lord such a concurrence of Evidence and other Circumstances in this matter greatly increase the weight of the proof against the Prisoner especially when there is nothing material alledged by him in his defence and therefore I shall trouble your Lordship no further L. C. J. Holt. Look ye Gentlemen of the Jury Sir John Friend the Prisoner at the Bar is Indicted for High Treason The Treason that is mentioned in the Indictment is Conspiring Compassing and Imagining the Death and Destruction of the King To prove the Conspiracy and design of the Kings death there are two principal Overt Acts that are mainly insisted upon The one is the consulting and agreeing with diverse others to send Mr. Charnock into France to King James to desire him to perswade the French King to send over forces here to assist them who were to furnish other forces for the raising of a War within this Kingdom in order to Depose the King and accordingly Mr. Charnock was sent upon that design The other Overt Act is the Prisoners having a Commission from the late King and preparing and directing men to be levied and to be ready to be in a Regiment of which Sir John Friend was by that Commission to be Collonel and this was also to assist in the Restitution of King James and in order thereunto in the Deposing and expulsion of King William These Gentlemen I tell you are the two Overt Acts that are principally insisted upon and to prove Sir John Friend Guilty of these there are two Witnesses that have been produced the one is Captain Porter who speaks to the first the other is Captain Blair who speaks to the second Captain Porter tells you that the latter end of May or the beginning of June last that he and Sir John Friend and others that he mentioned were at the Kings-head Tavern in Leadenhall-street and there they entered into a discourse about the Returning of the late K. James and they did consider among themselves which was the most effectual way and what were the most probable means to have him Restored and thereupon it was agreed among them that they would send a Messenger into France to him to desire him that he would sollicit the French King to furnish him with 10000 men to be sent into England 8000 Foot 1000 Horse and 1000 Dragoons and they did agree that when these forces were sent consisting of this number of men then they would be ready to meet and joyn them with 2000 Horse every one of them was to furnish his quota to which Sir John Friend did expressly agree The Messenger that they agreed to send was with them in company and heard the Consult which was Mr. Charnock who was lately Tryed and since Executed This being at that time determined Mr. Charnock intended to go upon the execution of that design and made ready for his Journey but before he went he had a desire to meet with the company again and have a further discourse upon this matter to see whether they did persevere in the resolution they had so taken There was another meeting about a week or a fortnight after which was at Mr. Montjoy s a Tavern in St. James's-street where met Sir John Friend Captain Porter and divers others of the Company that were before at the Kings Head And there they entered into a debate of the matter again the question there was whether Mr. Charnock should be sent into France as it was formerly agreed and there it was again determined he should go to which he agreed and Captain Porter says that he did go about 2 or 3 days after Mr. Porter tells you further that about the time that Mr. Charnock came back Mr. Porter was in Prison and he did not see him upon his first return but afterwards he met and spoke with him and askt him what was the effect of his Negotiation and Mr. Charnock told him that he had done as he was directed that he had been with King James and he had spoke to the French King but the answer returned was this that the French King had occasion for his Forces that year to be otherwise imployed and therefore he could not furnish such a number of men that year and Mr. Porter askt him whether he had been with the rest of the Gentlemen and acquainted them therewith and he said he had This is the substance of Mr. Porter's Evidence whereby you may perceive what the meetings were for what resolutions were there taken and what was the issue and effect of them The next Witness is Captain Blair and his Evidence goes to the other part that is to Sir John Friend s having a Commission from the late King James and engaging him and others to be in his Regiment whereof Sir John was to be Collonel and the providing of Officers And for that the Evidence stands thus Captain Blair tell ye that about two or three years ago he was with Sir John Friend at his Lodgings in Surrey-street and there he did produce a Commission that he had from King James to be Collonel of a Regiment of Horse he was to raise it himself and was to appoint and provide what Officers he thougt fit He says he read the Commission and it was signed at the top James Rex and countersigned at the bottom Melfort this he is positive in and further that Sir John Friend did promise that he should be Lieutenant Collonel of this Regiment and also desired that Captain Blair wou'd get as many men as he could and that there were other Officers that were appointed in that Regiment and particularly one Fisher was brought to Sir John Friend by Captain Blair to be his first Captain and one Collonel Slater who was much in favour with Sir John Friend was to have been another Lieutenant Collonel for said Sir John Friend I have a mind to him to be my Lieutenant Collonel and tho you are so too yet it is no matter if we have two in this Regiment at which Captain Blair took very great offence and exprest as much to Sir John Friend whereupon Sir John Friend told him it should not be so but said he would make another Provision for Mr. Slater that he should be a Captain of an Independant Troop that shall be composed of Non-swearing Parsons and that shall satisfy him And Sir John Freind did intrust Capt. Blair with the providing of Men and managing of them And Capt. Blair tells you he was at a great deal of charge and laid out diverse Summs to caress them and keep them together and wanting Money to proceed in that Affair he came to Sir J. Freind and made great Complaints that he wanted Money to carry on the Design by obliging the Men to keep

I do appoint Samuel Heyrick and Isaac Cleve to Print the Tryal of Sir John Friend Kt. and that no other Person presume to Print the same Mar. 24. 1695 6. J. Holt. THE ARRAIGNMENT TRYAL AND CONDEMNATION OF Sir JOHN FRIEND Knight FOR High Treason In Endeavouring to procure FORCES from France to Invade this Kingdom and Conspiring to Levy WAR in this Realm for Assisting and Abetting the said Invasion in order to the Deposing of His Sacred Majesty King William and restoring the late King At the Sessions-house in the Old-Bayly on Monday March 23. 1695 6. And Perused by the Lord Chief Justice Holt and the King's Council who were present at the Tryal LONDON Printed for Samuel Heyrick at Grays-Inn-Gate in Holborn and Isaac Cleve at Serjeants Inn-Gate in Chancery-Lane 1696. Die Lunae Vicesimo tertio Martis 1695. Anno Regni Regis Gulielmi Tertii Octavo At the Sessions-House in the Old-Baily this Day came on the Trial of Sir JOHN FREIND Knight for High-Treason in Compassing and Imagining the Death and Destruction of His present Majesty King William upon an Indictment found by the Grand-Jury for the City of London upon the Sessions of Oyer and Terminer and Gaol-Delivery of Newgate on Saturday the 21st Instant Cl. of Arr. CRyer make Proclamation Cryer Oyez thrice All manner of Persons that have any thing more to do at this General Sessions of the Peace Sessions of Oyer and Terminer holden for the City of London and Goal-delivery of Newgate holden for the City of London and County of Middlesex Adjourned over to this day Draw near and give your attendance for now they will proceed to the Pleas of the Crown for the said City and County and God save King William Cl. of Arr. Make proclamation again Cryer Oyez You good men of the City of London summoned to appear here this day to try between our Sovereign Lord the King and the Prisoner that is to be at the Bar answer to your names as you shall be called every man at the first Call upon pain and peril that will fall thereon Then the Petty Jury were all called over and the Appearances of those that answered to the Call were recorded About Ten a Clock the Lord Chief Justice Holt the Lord Chief Justice Treby Mr. Justice Nevill and Mr. Justice Rokeby came into the Court and there being a great confluence of the Nobility and Gentry there present the Prisoner was ordered to be brought to the Bar which was done accordingly Cl of Arr. Sir John Freind Hold up thy Hand Freind My Lord I humbly move that I may have one William Courtney who is to be a principal Witness for me at my Trial and is now a Prisoner in the Gatehouse sent for L. C. Just Holt. Is he your Witness Sir John Freind Yes my Lord William Courtney is his name L. C. Just Holt. Sir John why did not you send and desire this before Freind My Lord I did not hear of him while last night and I humbly beseech your Lordship that you will please to let him be sent for The Judges consulted among themselves L. C. Just Holt. Look ye Sir John Freind I 'll tell you If you 'll appoint your Agent to come hither you shall have an Habeas Corpus ad testificandum But indeed you might have sent this morning and then the Writ might have been got ready Freind My Lord I did not know so much for it was last night before I understood that he was to be a Witness L. C. Just Holt. You might have sent last night or this morning and you should have had a Warrant for the Writ Freind I assure your Lordship I did not know so much L. C. Just Holt. Well Send your Agent or your Sollicitor and you shall have a Warrant for the Writ Freind I beseech your Lordship that he may be sent for and that the messenger may make haste L. C. Just Holt. Let your Sollicitor come to my Clerk and he shall have it Freind My Lord if you please to give a Rule of Court for it I suppose it may be done presently L. C. Just Holt. No no Sir John it must be by Writ the Keeper of the Gate-house else can't bring him Freind My Lord that will be a long time before it can be done I desire nothing but that I may have him here to give his Evidence for me L. C. Just Holt. It will be got ready presently I believe he will be here time enough for you to make use of his Testimony Freind But my Lord suppose he should not be here It would be a great hindrance to me and a greater injury in my Tryal L. C. Just Holt. No no Sir John you need not fear any thing of that nature we are not in such haste we will not spur you on But the Warrant shall be made and do you make what haste you can to get the Writ and your Witness brought The Lord Chief Justice gave order to Mr. Mason his Clerk to prepare a Warrant for an Habeas Corpus directed for the Keeper of the Gatehouse to bring William Courtney immediately hither to give evidence Cl. of Arr. Sir John Freind hold up thy hand which he did You stand Indicted in London by the name of Sir John Freind late of London Kt. for that whereas there had been for a long time and yet is an open and notoriously publick and most sharp and cruel War by Land and by Sea had carried on and prosecuted by Lewis the French King against the most Serene most Illustrious and most Excellent Prince our Sovereign Lord William the Third by the Grace of God of England Scotland France and Ireland King Defender of the Faith c. All which time the said Lewis the French King and his Subjects were and yet are Enemies of our said Lord the King that now is and his Subjects You the said Sir John Freind a Subject of our said Sovereign Lord the King that now is of this Kingdom of England well knowing the Premises not having the fear of God in your Heart nor weighing the Duty of your Allegiance but being moved and seduced by the Instigation of the Devil as a false Traytor against the said most Serene most Clement and most Excellent Prince our said Sovereign Lord William the Third now King of England c. your Supreme True Natural Rightful Lawful and Undoubted Sovereign Lord the cordial Love and the true and due Obedience Fidelity and Allegiance which every Subject of our said Sovereign Lord the King that now is towards him our said Sovereign Lord the King should and of right ought to bear withdrawing and intending utterly to extinguish and contriving and with all your strength purposing designing and endeavouring the Government of this Kingdom of England under our said Sovereign Lord the King that now is of Right duly happily and very well Established altogether to Subvert Change and Alter and his Faithful Subjects and the Freemen of this

where he would land Pray Gentlemen observe the Time when these Meetings were It was in May or June last soon after the King was gone to Flanders and they thought this a fit Opportunity when the King's Forces were drawn out of England into Flanders for carrying on the Campaign then was the proper Time according as they discours'd the Matter the People being as they said generally Dissatisfied and but few Forces in England to oppose them Mr. Charnock accordingly went over into France and about a Month after return'd again and acquainted them that he had told King James their Resolution and how they would assist him and what they desir'd of him and in short had deliver'd his Message but that King James told him He thank'd them very much for their Kindness and Readiness to assist him but at that Time the French King could not spare any Forces nor could it be all that Summer and so there was nothing to be done and thereupon it rested till the last Winter Then Gentlemen you will hear that the last Winter the Design was renewed again about January last For Sir George Barclay came over from the late King being a Lieutenant of his Guards there and then they entered into a Conspiracy to assassinate the King and that was to be done first to facilitate the Invasion which was to follow immediately upon the Execution of the Assassination For they thought they cou'd have no Assurance of Success in their Invasion as long as the King lived and I hope every one will take notice how precious that Life is to us when it is so apparent to all the World that our Enemies cannot hope for any Success to their Enterprizes and Designs to destroy us but by taking that Life away Gentlemen this very Conspiracy you will hear the Prisoner at the Bar was acquainted with and privy to even this Assassination tho' indeed you will hear he did not much approve of it because he thought it wou'd be a Disservice to the late King's Affairs but he was at several Meetings with Mr. Porter and Mr. Charnock and Sir William Parkins and several others that were Conspirators in that Design and was acquainted with it as you will hear by the Evidence Gentlemen you will hear further that about January last the Invasion being intended to be quickly made the Prisoner at the Bar Sir John Friend had frequent Meetings with Blaire that was his Lieutenant-Colonel and other Officers to consider and prepare how to be in a Readiness About that time the Prisoner at the Bar Captain Blaire and one Captain Ridley met at a Place in Exchange-Ally and there they discoursed among one another and there Ridley said there was a considerable Roman-Catholick that was sent to King James and he wou'd bring the last Orders and Sir John Friend said he knew of it very well it was so and he hoped he shou'd have them brought very quickly At another time the Prisoner at the Bar and Blaire his Lieutenant-Colonel met at Jonathan's Coffee-House and the Prisoner took him up in his Coach and carried him along with him and there they had a great Discourse of the Affairs of the Regiment The Prisoner at the Bar Sir John Friend told Blaire they must be very good Husbands of their Money For if the Invasion shou'd miscarry he shou'd not have Money enough to carry on his Trade but he wou'd take Care about some Officers that had not Money to mount themselves but a great many were to prepare for themselves at their own Charges and for those that were to be under them They had likewise then some Discourse about the Thoulon Fleet coming about and that he thought it not adviseable to stir till the Thoulon Fleet came round He said he wou'd not put a Foot in the Styrrop till that were done and that he wou'd keep out of the Way and lie private till all was in a Readiness and advised Captain Blair to do so too Gentlemen you will find it further proved that about May last the Prisoner at the Bar paid 20 l. to this Captain Blaire who had laid out Moneys in the Affairs of the Regiment and this was to reimburse him what he had so laid out and it was in this manner You have all heard I suppose of one Colonel Parker who being taken upon his coming over from France was a Prisoner in the Tower but made his Escape from thence to which Escape the Prisoner at the Bar was privy This Escape cost 300 l. as you will hear and the Prisoner laid down 100 l. of it But this was to be repay'd him again but how was it there was one Johnson a Priest a Conspirator likewise in this Design of Assassinating the King and he undertook and promised that the late King should pay this 100 l. And accordingly one Piggott went over into France and had this 100 l. paid him by King James to repay it to Sir John Friend But he thought fit to keep the Money and Sir John Friend cou'd not get it of him and he durst not ask it because he knew the Consideration was not fit to be made publick But he told Captain Blair I cannot pay you this Money out of my own Pocket but Piggott ought to pay me who has received this Money of mine If you will prevail with Johnson who got this Money from the late King to be paid to Piggott to persuade Piggott to pay 20 l. I will allow it in part of the Money he is to pay me and you shall have it Captain Blair did prevail with Johnson to persuade Piggott to pay this 20 l. and Captain Blair did receive it and Sir John Friend did agree to allow it to Piggott out of the 100 l. due to him Gentlemen at another time about Christmass last there was another 20 l. paid by Sir John Friend's Order and Direction by Piggott to Blair upon the same Account by the Mediation of Johnson the Priest and this was paid and allow'd as being laid out in the Affairs of the Regiment before he being intrusted as Lieutenant-Colonel to look after the Regiment Gentlemen I have now opened the Substance of the Evidence the particulars you will hear from the Witnesses themselves If I have opened it amiss you will take care when the Witnesses are produced to observe what they say who will tell you what really was done and will rectifie any Mistake of mine For I wou'd have no such Mistake do the Prisoner at the Bar any Prejudice Mr. Solicitor General Gentlemen Mr. Attorney has open'd the Nature and Course of out Evidence so fully that I shall make no Repetition of any of the particulars but call our Witnesses and prove it in Order as it has been opened And first we call Captain George Porter who came in Friend My Lord before Mr. Porter is sworn I desire to know whether he is a Roman Catholick or a Protestant L. C. J. Holt. Why do you desire that Is

much as any Man as much as another I always believ'd him to be a Protestant of the Church of England as good as any Man alive he always went to Chureh L. C. J. Holt. What since the Revolution Hawkins I have not been so conversant with him since that because I went out of Town and liv'd out of Town but I believe there are those at Hackney that can give an account of that matter Friend I desire Major Mould may be call'd L. C. J. Holt. Then I suppose you have done with Mr. Hawkins Friend Yes And then Major Mould stood up L. C. J. Holt. Well what say you Sir Mould My Lord I have known Sir John Friend many years above these Twenty years and I always look'd upon him as a sincere and strict Protestant and I have often been in his company since the Revolution and I never heard him speak diminishingly of the Government I believe him to be as good a Protestant as any in England L. C. J. H. How As any in England That 's a great Character Friend Then I desire Dr. Hollingsworth may be called but he did not appear Friend Then my Lord I desire Mr. Lufton may be called L. C. J. H. There is Mr. Lufton what would you have with him Friend I desire he will give an account what he knows of me what Religion am of Lufton My Lord as to Sir John Friend I have known him this ten years he was pleased to Imploy me as a Chaplain in his House a considerable time both before and after the Revolution and after the Revolution we always used the Prayers according to the Church of England and we did always Pray for the present King and the late Queen Mary at which Sir John was many times present Mr. Att. Gen. How long is it since you left him Lufton About four or five years as I remember Then Sir John's Family lessened he was pleased to say to me Mr. Lufton I am going to Tunbridg and my Family lessens this is about five or six years ago and I shall have no occasion for you at present but if ever I make use of a Chaplain again I will make use of you this he was pleased to say L. C. J. H. How long is it do you say that you have left him Lufton About five years and as to any Objection of his being a Papist I have often discoursed with Sir John Friend about the Popish Religion and he has often spoken with Detestation of the Principles of the Papists Friend What have you heard me speak of the French and about any thing of an Invasion how I would venture my life for the Protestant Religion or any thing of that Lufton I have often heard you say as to the present Government that tho you could not Comply with it yet you would live peaceably under it When we have been talking of these things you said you never would be in a Plot and tho you could not Comply with the present Government yet you would never concern your self in any Design against it For my part my Lord I know nothing by him but that he is an Honest and a Worthy Gentleman tho he be so unfortunate to be under this Accusation Friend I desire Mr. Hoateley may be called who appeared L. C. J. H. Well what say you Sir Friend Pray Mr. Hoateley will you give an account to the Court what you know of my being a Protestant and of my Life and Conversation Hoateley I believe Sir John Friend is a very settled Protestant of the Church of England and I have reason to believe so because I have frequently discoursed with him because I have had a Couple of Children that were his Nephews upon whose account I have been forced several times to wait upon him and he has often said he never would be in any Plot and his words that he used to me were really very Remarkable Catch me in the Corn and put me in the Pound L. C. J. H. What were his words Sir Hoateley He used to say he would never be in any Plot for says he Catch me in the Corn and put me in the Pound and I have heard him express himself with a great deal of Detestation of King-Killing and those Principles of the Papists the Assassinating of any Crowned Head Mr. Att. Gen. Pray Sir How came you to discourse with Sir John Friend about King-Killing and Plots You are a School-Master it seems how hapned this sort of discourse between you Hoateley There will be discourses about these things sometimes Mr. Att. Gen. But pray how was the discourse Introduced What was the occasion of the discourse Sure there was some occasion extraordinary for him so to express himself to you Hoately I cannot remember the particular occasion but such discourse there was Mr. Att. Gen. Pray how long ago is this time that this discourse was Hoately I believe it was five or six times within these two years Mr. Att. Gen. What have you had the same discourse five or six times one after another Hoately I cannot say that but those used to be his words Mr. Att. Gen. What in common discourse Hoately He said he would never be in any Plot. Friend My Lord I can bring a great many more Witnesses of this kind and I believe I could have a thousand to prove me a Protestant L. C. J. H. Call whom you will Sir John we will hear them Friend My Lord I am very loth to trouble you M. Just Rookeby No it will not be reckon'd any trouble we will hear all your Evidence Friend There is one Mr. Willis and one Mr. Hemings but I desire it may not be forgotten as to the Acts of Parliament for they are very material for me as I shall shew by and by Mr. Willis appeared L. C. J. H Well what say you to this Gentleman Friend Mr. Willis I desire you 'd give an account to their Lordships what you think of me as to my being a Protestant and how I have behaved my self in every respect all along Willis My Lord I have always taken it for granted that those that come to Church are Protestants and I did always take Sir John Friend to be a Protestant The acquaintance that I had with him was since he lived in the Parish of Hackney and we have had some converse together and there have past friendly Visits between us and I do not remember any discourse while I was there that tended to the Government one way or another I was never very often with him but his discourse was always very obliging discreet and prudent whenever I was there L C. J. H. Pray Sir when did you see him at Church Willis Truly my Lord I cannot call to mind when it was L. C. J. H. Cannot you name any time Willis He may be at Church sometimes and I not see him our Seats are at a distance from one another and there are Pillars between that one can't see