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A36769 An argument delivered by Patrick Darcy, esquire by the expresse order of the House of Commons in the Parliament of Ireland, 9 iunii, 1641. Darcy, Patrick, 1598-1668. 1643 (1643) Wing D246; ESTC R17661 61,284 146

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e._n 3._o 12._o 21._o henr._n 6._o 11._o stamford_n prerogative_n 8._o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o necessity_n of_o a_o tenure_n thereof_o 33._o 8._o upon_o the_o conquest_n it_o be_v necessary_a that_o all_o land_n shall_v be_v hold_v by_o some_o tenure_n for_o the_o defence_n of_o the_o kingdom_n 12._o 1._o the_o statute_n of_o quia_fw-la emptores_fw-la terrarum_fw-la 6●_n etc._n etc._n praerogativa_fw-la regis_fw-la speak_v of_o feoffator_n 123._o feoffatores_fw-la etc._n etc._n therefore_o a_o tenure_n i_o mean_v this_o tacit_a or_o employ_v tenure_n be_v original_o only_o intend_v of_o land_n 2._o the_o king_n may_v reserve_v a_o tenure_n in_o all_o thing_n not_o mainerable_a by_o express_a reservation_n or_o covenant_n 44._o edw._n 3._o 45._o fitz._n nature_n brevium_fw-la 263._o etc._n etc._n but_o that_o be_v not_o our_o case_n 3._o here_o it_o be_v leave_v to_o construction_n of_o law_n which_o be_v aequissimus_fw-la iudex_fw-la and_o look_n upon_o the_o nature_n of_o 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aforesaid_a and_o to_o give_v particular_a reason_n for_o every_o of_o the_o say_a question_n copia_fw-la vera_fw-la extract_n per_fw-la phil._n fern_n cleric_n parl._n com._n a_o argument_n deliver_v by_o patrick_n darcy_n esqvire_fw-la by_o the_o express_a order_n of_o the_o commons-house_n of_o the_o parliament_n of_o ireland_n at_o a_o conference_n with_o a_o committee_n of_o the_o lord_n house_n in_o the_o dine_a room_n of_o the_o castle_n of_o dublin_n 9_o die_fw-la junij_fw-la 1641._o upon_o certain_a question_n propound_v to_o the_o judge_n of_o ireland_n in_o full_a parliament_n and_o upon_o the_o answer_n of_o the_o say_a judge_n to_o the_o say_a question_n and_o in_o the_o conclusion_n a_o declaration_n of_o the_o commons_o house_n upon_o the_o say_a question_n the_o question_n question_n wherein_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o humble_o desire_v that_o the_o house_n of_o the_o lord_n will_v be_v please_v to_o require_v the_o judge_n to_o deliver_v their_o resolution_n in_o 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and_o freedom_n of_o the_o say_a subject_n of_o this_o kingdom_n contrary_a to_o his_o majesty_n royal_a and_o pious_a intention_n therefore_o the_o knight_n citizen_n and_o burgess_n in_o parliament_n assemble_v not_o for_o any_o doubt_n or_o ambiguity_n which_o may_v be_v conceive_v or_o think_v of_o for_o or_o concerning_o the_o premise_n nor_o of_o the_o ensue_a question_n but_o for_o manifestation_n and_o declaration_n of_o a_o clear_a truth_n and_o of_o the_o say_a law_n and_o statute_n already_o plant_v and_o for_o many_o age_n past_a settle_v in_o this_o kingdom_n the_o say_a knight_n citizen_n and_o burgess_n do_v therefore_o pray_v the_o house_n of_o the_o lord_n may_v be_v please_v to_o command_v the_o judge_n of_o this_o kingdom_n forthwith_o to_o declare_v in_o write_v their_o resolution_n of_o and_o unto_o the_o ensue_a question_n and_o subscribe_v to_o the_o same_o 1._o whether_o the_o subject_n of_o this_o kingdom_n be_v a_o free_a people_n and_o to_o be_v govern_v 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