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A20517 A reply to M. Nicholas Smith, his discussion, of some pointes of M. Doctour Kellison his treatise of the hierarchie. By a divine Divine.; Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640?; Kellison, Matthew. 1630 (1630) STC 6929; ESTC S109712 163,687 351

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be_v not_o compose_v of_o particular_a church_n and_o bishop_n which_o it_o may_v be_v and_o be_v in_o other_o particular_a church_n when_o england_n want_v a_o bishop_n and_o shall_v still_o be_v so_o although_o as_o god_n forbid_v england_n be_v quite_o cut_v of_o from_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o have_v not_o one_o catholic_a in_o it_o 35._o have_v thus_o demonstrate_v m._n doctor_n doctrine_n which_o aver_v that_o a_o people_n province_n or_o country_n can_v be_v a_o particular_a church_n without_o a_o particular_a bishop_n and_o consequent_o that_o all_o the_o time_n england_n want_v a_o bishop_n it_o be_v not_o a_o particular_a church_n and_o have_v also_o detect_v in_o m._n nicholas_n wilful_a or_o ignorant_a mistake_n which_o common_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o all_o his_o argument_n &_o have_v answer_v to_o all_o his_o argument_n i_o will_v go_v to_o the_o next_o question_n if_o first_o i_o add_v this_o that_o see_v that_o england_n when_o it_o have_v no_o particular_a 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significabatur_fw-la etc._n etc._n by_o which_o thing_n it_o be_v signify_v plain_o that_o by_o confirmation_n baptism_n be_v in_o some_o sort_n perfect_v which_o be_v say_v by_o some_o bishop_n of_o rome_n he_o cit_v in_o the_o margin_n vrbanus_n and_o melchiade_n heretic_n do_v not_o only_o impudent_o but_o also_o unlearned_o laugh_v at_o it_o and_o canisius_n also_o say_v he_o be_v no_o perfect_a christian_a who_o be_v not_o confirm_v and_o so_o m._n nicholas_n while_o he_o condemn_v m._n doctor_n for_o say_v that_o without_o confirmation_n we_o be_v not_o perfect_a christian_n and_o for_o allege_v s._n clement_n for_o proof_n of_o that_o he_o say_v condemn_v also_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o all_o divine_n who_o write_v of_o this_o matter_n yea_o jesuites_n themselves_o and_o so_o i_o can_v tell_v how_o hereafter_o he_o can_v look_v they_o in_o the_o face_n yea_o he_o favour_v caluin_n as_o we_o have_v see_v m._n doctor_n immediate_o after_o s._n clement_n cit_v s._n 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quaeras_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o if_o thou_o ask_v whether_o the_o omission_n of_o confirmation_n when_o it_o can_v commodious_o be_v have_v etc._n etc._n pagin_v 87._o numero_fw-la 18._o the_o reply_n m._n nicholas_n make_v m._n doctor_n say_v more_o than_o he_o do_v to_o wit_n that_o every_o one_o in_o particular_a be_v bind_v to_o take_v confirmation_n with_o hazard_n of_o persecution_n whereas_o m._n doctor_n say_v only_o that_o a_o country_n shall_v hazard_v persecution_n rather_o than_o want_v confirmation_n c._n estius_n in_o 4._o d._n c._n 29._o estius_n propose_v a_o question_n whether_o the_o omission_n of_o confirmation_n when_o it_o may_v be_v have_v commodiouslie_o be_v a_o mortal_a or_o venial_a sin_n and_o answer_v that_o it_o can_v be_v omit_v without_o mortal_a sin_n in_o time_n and_o place_n of_o persecution_n of_o faith_n when_o forsooth_o by_o reason_n of_o infirmity_n there_o be_v danger_n to_o a_o man_n lest_o he_o deny_v his_o faith_n in_o word_n or_o deed_n 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persecution_n in_o
england_n be_v great_a for_o the_o bishop_n as_o it_o be_v not_o there_o be_v no_o special_a law_n in_o force_n against_o he_o yet_o many_o may_v receive_v he_o and_o confirmation_n of_o he_o without_o any_o imminent_a danger_n and_o consequent_o according_a to_o estius_n his_o opinion_n be_v bind_v under_o mortal_a sin_n to_o receive_v confirmation_n when_o there_o be_v danger_n by_o reason_n of_o infirmity_n of_o deny_v their_o faith_n or_o of_o fear_v to_o profess_v it_o when_o they_o shall_v and_o so_o i_o marvel_v that_o m._n nicholas_n can_v not_o see_v the_o difference_n betwixt_o persecution_n in_o general_a and_o in_o particular_a for_o that_o persecution_n in_o general_n do_v not_o excuse_v particular_a man_n from_o receive_v confirmation_n they_o notwithstanding_o a_o general_a persecution_n have_v commodity_n to_o receive_v it_o without_o danger_n but_o when_o the_o persecution_n be_v particular_a to_o man_n in_o particular_a than_o they_o can_v without_o danger_n and_o so_o be_v excuse_v yet_o nether_a a_o country_n nor_o any_o of_o the_o country_n can_v except_v against_o priest_n come_v into_o the_o country_n by_o reason_n of_o a_o general_a persecution_n because_o notwithstanding_o such_o a_o persecution_n many_o in_o particular_a may_v hear_v mass_n receive_v the_o b._n sacrament_n go_v to_o confession_n hear_v a_o sermon_n now_o and_o then_o without_o imminent_a danger_n and_o so_o for_o respect_n and_o regard_n of_o these_o who_o have_v right_a to_o the_o sacrament_n none_o can_v except_v against_o the_o come_n in_o of_o priest_n into_o a_o country_n see_v that_o if_o the_o country_n be_v deprive_v of_o priest_n none_o can_v hear_v mass_n go_v to_o confession_n receive_v the_o sacrament_n or_o hear_v exhortation_n and_o so_o at_o this_o day_n if_o priest_n have_v not_o be_v send_v into_o england_n maugre_o persecution_n there_o have_v now_o scarce_o any_o catholic_a or_o catholic_a religion_n be_v leave_v in_o england_n &_o nisi_fw-la dominus_fw-la exercituum_fw-la reliquisset_fw-la nobis_fw-la seman_n quasi_fw-la sodoma_fw-la suissemus_fw-la &_o quasi_fw-la gomorrha_n simile_n essemus_fw-la unless_o the_o lord_n of_o host_n have_v leave_v we_o this_o seed_n we_o have_v be_v as_o sodom_n and_o we_o shall_v be_v like_a to_o gomorrha_n 1._o isai_n 1._o 32._o so_o although_o no_o man_n in_o particular_a be_v bind_v to_o receive_v the_o bishop_n into_o his_o house_n or_o confirmation_n of_o he_o with_o imminent_a danger_n of_o the_o aforesay_v temporal_a loss_n yet_o a_o country_n can_v not_o except_v against_o a_o bishop_n or_o confirmation_n for_o fear_n of_o persecution_n in_o general_a for_o that_o notwithstanding_o such_o a_o general_a persecution_n many_o might_n without_o the_o aforesayed_a danger_n receive_v a_o bishop_n and_o confirmation_n at_o his_o hand_n as_o we_o see_v they_o have_v do_v in_o england_n and_o so_o in_o regard_n of_o these_o who_o have_v right_a to_o a_o bishop_n and_o to_o confirmation_n 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