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A09101	A discouerie of I. Nicols minister, misreported a Iesuite, latelye recanted in the Tower of London Wherin besides the declaration of the man, is contayned a ful answere to his recantation, with a confutation of his slaunders, and proofe of the contraries, in the Pope, cardinals, clergie, students, and priuate men of Rome. There is also added a reproofe of an oratiuon and sermon, falsely presented by the sayd Nicols to be made in Rome, and presented to the Pope in his consistorye. Wherto is annexed a late information from Rome touchng [sic] the aute[n]tical copie of Nicols recantation.	Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610.	1581 (1581)	STC 19402; ESTC S120349	83,096	196

be the things neuer so honest or lawful of them selues this man draweth all to a corrupt meaning as you see Of the permision o● the stewes But héere before I passe any furder I must say a word or two touching the stewes in Rome the permission wherof by the Pope by other Catholike Princes in their coūtries is accounted so heinous a matter by our aduersaries as it may not be answered but that we therby alow of vnchast life Which is a most false wrongfull charge as may apéere by that which foloweth First the Pope with al Catholiques that euer wrot condemneth detesteth the acte of simple fornication as a deadly sine dānable to the doers without repētance And our aduersaries shall neuer be able to charge truly our Catholique doctrine wth the cōtrarie Secondly notwithstāding this detestation the ciuil magistrat may for the auoiding of a worse incōueni●nce tollerat or permit this sinn in some degrée without fault Tolleratinge of stewes noe alowinge of them without any alowing of the sinne it selfe As God doth tollerat with wicked men and with many wicked actes in the world which he detesteth might notwithstāding let thē if he would yet he dothe not alowe of thē for that he permitteth them Thirdly that a naughty wicked thing may somtimes be necessary consequently tollerated without fault the corruption and lewd inclinatiō of men supposed It apereth plainly by S. Paul who saith 1. Cor. 11. Math. 18. that heresies of necessitie must be by Christ who affirmeth that scandals must néedes come yet nether Christ alowed of scandals nor S. Paul of heresies Fowerthly I might aske why the protestants in England doe permit vsery by their lawes that is doth not punish men for taking vnder ten of the hundreth They must néedes aunswere that they allowe not of the sinne but that they doe it for the auoiding of a greater inconuenience which is leste by punishing all vsurie as the Catholique Church dothe no man would lende any monye at all The causes why the stewes is permitted Soe then the Pope and other Christian Princes for the auoidinge of a greater inconuenience séeing the corruption of some men wil alwayes be such as beinge restrained of this would breake to worse matters and hauing learned by longe experience as S. Austen affirmed also of his time that if this publique sink should be taken away the infection wold rushe into priuate howses as in parte I thinke may be noted in our own coūtrie if we compare the chastitie of our fathers dayes when such a place was permitted with the times which haue followed since the taking away therof considering also that the tolleratinge with this publique sinke is no wayes any allowance of the sinne for these causes I say Christian Maiestrates haue alwaies permitted this publique scandal protesting to their subiectes by the words of S. Ierome which he vseth in a like matter vppon Christes wordes Li. 3. comment in math 18. It is of necessitie that scandals should come but yet woe to that man which by his faulte maketh that to be which otherwise in the world must needes be That is to say of necessitie there must for causes a stewes be permited but yet woe vnto him whiche haunteh the stewes or vseth this permission Soe that the thing is permitted of necessitie in general but no mans going thither alowed in particuler Wherof it commeth that there is no prince in the world which doth or can vse more meanes then the Pope dothe Meanes vsed by the Pope for withdrawing lewde women from their naughty lyfe to draw al men from that vice to reforme thos miserable women thēselues which liue in that kind of life in his dominions For first they are shut vp in one stréete with a note of infamie not only to them selues but to all those who repaire vnto them Sec●ndly they are debarred of all spiritual cōsolation for they remaine vnable to receaue any sacramēt as long as they abide in that trade of life Thirdly they are depriued of al credit or countenāce in the world abrode so that if any of thē shold be found in a Coche both horses Coche are ipso facto forfeited Fowerthly they make no testamēt except they haue lawful childrē but al their goodes must goe to the conuertites Conuertites that is to thos which are conuerted from that kinde of abhominable life Fiftly the Pope causeth euery wéeke some religious men to repaire to that place ther in the middest of the stréete to prech hell dānation vnto them for their wickednes And lastly he hath prouided a goodly monastery for all thē which wil leaue that state to enter into ther to be maintained whiles they liue with a very competent sufficient prouision of an honest vertuous life By which meanes diuers are recalled daily from their wickednes Which thinges being so let the indifferēt reader iudge how vniustly the Pope is charged with alowing of ther lewd behauiour as God whoe is not partial will one daye declare Thus hauing answerd Ihō Nicols vntrue slanderous reportes of the citie of Rome it shal not be amisse according to my promise to bestow sōe few words in declaring the pietie of this cittie which euery man that hath séene it is not blinded with partialitie wil easily confesse to be greater then in any place of the world besides And first in talking of the chéefe head head the Pope himselfe of the Cardnals I haue shewed how for matters of learning it doth excel hauing in it The multitud of studentes Seminaries colledges of al nations tongues also two distinct Uniuersities as I may terme thē for besides the scholes of Sapientia wher 30. sundery learned men doe reade the Iesuites schooles haue aboue 1200. shollers which frequent thē besides the studentes of lawe in the colledge of Capronica Capronica besids the great howses of religion wher also are learned readers haue often publike excercises of disputation one with another to the great commoditye of all studentes in that place After this in my spéech of the priestes clergie of Rome Congregations in Rome I shewed what cōgregatiōs conferēces they haue in spiritual matters to the great instruction edification of all straūgers that repaire thither In which kinde of pietie I touched but the leste part for besides thos congregations that I named ther ar diuers others wher as the nūber of Societies or Cōpagnies of seculer men in Rome 80. Societies in Rome amoūt to aboue 80. theris neuer ● Cōpagnie which maintaineth not a church or a chappel with some nomber of priestes with whom sundery times of the wek● they haue cōference in spirituall matters Now then to passe ouer to the déedes of pietie which are corporal and which appertaine more in particuler to the Citizens them selues I must say generally that

A Discouerie of I. Nicols minister misreported a Iesuite latelye recanted in the Tower of London Wherin besides the declaration of the man is con●ayned a ful answere to his recantation with a con●utation of his slaunders and proofe of the contraries in the Pope Cardinals Clergie Studentes and priuate men of Rome There is also added a reproofe of an oration and sermon falsely pretended by the sayd Nicols to be made in Rome and presented to the Pope in his Consistorye Wherto is annexed a late information from Rome touch●ng the autētical copie of Nicols recantation IHS God hathe exalted him and geuen him a name whiche is aboue all names Philippens 2.ver.9 There is no other name vnder heauen geuen vnto men wherin we must be saued Act. 4 ver 12 A lyeing witnes shall haue an yuel ende Pro. 21. An non ex hac odiosa impudentia pullulabit mox impoenitentia mater desperationis Bern. Ser. 42. in Can. 1 A preface shewing different proceeding in ●atholicks and their aduersaries with a diuision of the booke into three partes 2 The firste parte contayneth a narration of Iohn Nicolls with a refutation of certayne vayne and false vauntes made of him selfe 3 The seconde parte contayneth a confutation of many malitious slaunders vttered by Nicolls againste Catboliques but especiallie and more in particuler against the Pope the Cardinals priestes and religious men the English studentes in Rome diuers particuler persons and againste the cittye of Rome it selfe where also the contraries to Nicols reportes are declared 4 The third parte contayneth an explication and defence of certayne controuersies misunderstood and absurdly peruerted by Nicols 5 Nicols oration sermon published in english since the writing of this booke pretended by him as made in Rome presented to the Pope are conuinced of forgery by manifest absurdities impossibilities and contradictions 6 Also there is added a late information from Rome of the true copie of Nicols recantation in that place 7 Lastly there is put downe an example 〈◊〉 a tast of Nicols talent in rayling at both sides TO the indifferente Reader IT IS one poynte among other o● very bare brokers to extol immoderatly very base wares And it is not the guise but of needye distressed warryers The aduersaries pouertie to receaue wi●h trōpet to place of dignitie euerie ragged and wandering fugitiue Which two thinges notwithstanding with no smal discredite of their owne cause some aduersaries of ours haue followed of late in soe greedye receauing and aduauncinge to the pulpet with measureles commendation one Iohn Nicoles farre vnfitte in mine opinion for soe great a doe beinge but a reiected thing of the contrarie parte a séelie grammarian and twise reuolted minister Whose recantation or rayling rather inuectiue published not long since from the Tower of London In februarie Ano. 1581. I coulde more willinglye haue pittied then aunswered knowing the mans féeblenes as I doe but only for that he surchargeth with slaunder soe manie other men yea Princes and states in that his declamation as it was harde for me whiche before god in my conscienes knewe all or moste of it to be forged to hould my peace in soe manyfest vntruthes and by silence to yelde credite to the manye malytious and reproche●ul reportes The dealing also of our aduersaries in this case and she like moued me not a little to answere whoe shame not to proclaime triumphes vpon soe base conquestes against their mother the Catholique Church whoe hath borne them and brought them vp and whoe if she would but a litle folow the same course Different dealing in Catholiques their aduersaries not in falshed and malice as they doe but in euident truthe ether by noting the knowen vices of her enemies which rather she soroweth and hartely be wayleth or in vaunting the gaine of suche as daylye by goddes g●ace returne againe from rebellion she might easely in bothe these things matche and ouermatche the lauishe tōgues of her reuoulted children were she not restrained by charytie in the one and by grauitie in the other For touching the first who doth not knowe that if in lewe of this and the like t●● notable infamous a●tes of ministers preachers onlye in this one Realme of Englande for the space of one doson years past Looke the crowne off●●● and other lyke recordes w●re ga●hered into some one booke ●or the vewe of the worlde they would be more in quantitie and in qualitie more haynous then al that they haue gathered by great laboure muche falshod in their seueral bookes out of the liues of the worste Catholiques for these thowsand yeres past ouer all the whole worlde And yet these men ●or●oothe came as prophetes to re●orme vs and our f●thers liues and ther●ore in reason should haue liued more exactly them selues And touching the second who dothe not sée the great varietie of important learned personages which from time to time vppon trial of the truthe doe retourn● vnto vs euen from their ministerie and they also of other qualitie and talente then séelye Iohn Nicols whoe in good soothe is not worthe the taking vp being sounde in the stréete and yet we vaunt not of eache thing in printe nor sturre we tragedies vpon litle trifles We are contente to leaue this to our aduersaries whose fraude or feruor is to make mountaines of molehilles and greate speache vppon small matter If any man wil doubt wh●ther such returne of Protestantes be made vnto vs or noe as I noted before passing ouer other places let him cast his eye but vpon these Seminaries and Colleges on this side the seas where English studentes are and he shal finde a great and principal part therof to haue bene in times past not onely of there religion but also towardes there ministerie Ministrye to Preisthode whoe on the contrary can not shew me any one Préest in these later yeres perverted by them I add in these later yeres for that albeit in the beginning of heresie when first the banner of sedition was raysed agaynst the Church great multitudes of people reuolted together as in al commotions is wonte to happe by some generall fa●se sugg●stion of the principal rebels Cause of former reuolting and present re●urninge yet afterward the heate being past and more calmer consideration coming in place men haue staied them selues and harkened to the cause and diuers also returned which in the first furie ranne out with the rest of which two sortes both the one and the other remayne better fortified for resisting of lyke error for the time to come The meanes which haue bene vsed generally to preistes taken these later yeres for I wil conceale tower matters in particuler for the withdrawing of them in religion haue bene many and strong and qualified in both extremities of rigor and alluremēt promises and minaces and yet so great is God his goodnes no one I say not any one hath vnto this day faultered But of ministers

which haue offered them selues to vs in this time it were long to recount the particulares and yet haue we nothing to compell them vnto our part except euidēce of truth n●r any thinge so allure th●m excepte pouertie and honestie It is no maruaile then all circumstances cōsidered if such s●ore be made of one Iohn Ni●ols a ●●●●gate of their owne ●ampe For euen the Egle her selfe must baite on flées when she can finger no fethered fowle If any one man of more sufficiencie might haue bene gayned why Iohn Nicols was preferred to the pulpit Iohn Nic●ls had bene spared but séeinge it could not be and that som●what at that time must néedes be v●tered for the more defacinge and bringing in hatred the Catholicke religion some of zeale were content to vse his person sor the auowchinge of that which ether he or other could deuise for that purpose and so was his recantation published with common fame that he was a Iesuite of greate learninge and renowino to which recantatiō I am now bréefly to answere according to the chéese pointes thereof which in effect I finde to be thrée A Deni●i●n of the book 〈◊〉 to three part● the one in vaunting of him selfe the second in s●ander●nge of others the thirde in willinge of certaine controuersies by ●●bling them before he vnderstood thē Vauntinge of him selfe The first 〈◊〉 For the better vnderstanding of this first parte as also to see how litle cause this litle man had to trouble vs with bragginge it ●ot be amisse to sett downe in wordes some shorte progresse of his lyfe declared by him selfe to his felowes in Rome and publiquelye knowen to others there namelie his course from Wales to England from Englande to Flaunders from Flaunders to Rome and from Rome to the pulpit in the tower of London wherein I wil speake no●hing but such as is commōlie knowen or confessed by him selfe Other matters suppesed of greater importance I wil vtterlie ●mit If hereafter vpon trial they breake forth vnto the world I shal take no comfort therein for in good sooth I much pittie the man and wish● onelie his repentance to pardone and not his infamie to desperation Iohn Nicols therefore was borne at Cowbridge in Wales A Narration of Iohn Nicolls and afterwarde a minister in the weste partes of Englande In which arte how he behaued him selfe I am not to dis●●●●e or reueale onelie him selfe vs●●●●en to declare how that he p●●●ched commonlie certaine sermens of one ●●●brooke as his owne and thereby 〈◊〉 ●hered o●n on of very good and 〈…〉 Also that he procur● 〈…〉 benefices by Simonie an● that M. deane of Powles and he coulde neuer agrée which I suppose was for noe good demeanure on his part But in trade of time beinge enforced to departe England ether for his conscience as he would pretend or for worse causes as some suspect he passed ouer to Flaunders and there applyinge him selfe to the religion and manners of the place plaied some time the souldier and some times the minister vntill beinge werie of both he departed thence and passing by Cambraie being holpen by the liberality of English men there he tooke his walke towardes Italie where he serued a Bishop for certaine monthes and finallie after a space he came to Rome attired ridiculouslie in an old cast purple cassoke doune to the groūd geeuen him by the same Bishoppe Iohn Nicolls behauiour at Rome Being come to Rome and deuisinge how to get some credit there thought it best to offer him selfe to the inquisi●tion voluntarilie and so he did by the conduction of one M. Moris accusing himselfe gréeuously for that he had ●orsaken the Catholicke Church and fal●len into heresie makinge him selfe also a minister of the same for which faulte he craued pardone and for more satisfaction both to God and the world● he desired most earnestlye to be admitted to a recantation or abiuration of his former errors which was graunted vnto him He abiured therefore with al t●e vehemencie he could deuise and after that made sute to be receaued as scholer into the Englishe Colledge or Seminarie there Wherunto albeit for his apparent insufficiencie some dela●e and difficultie were made yet finallie he was admitted and deliuered ouer as the manner is to the posers to trie what studdie he was fit for who found him verie raw in the latine tonge and therefore determined him to the studie of Rethorike and Humanitie wherein hauinge spente some time he was aduaunced to the studie of Logique but not beinge able to wade in so greate matters he was remoued againe thēce as non proficiens and shifted of to the studdie of certaine cases of conscience more easie for his capacitie wherein Iohn Nicolle habilitie in learninge notwithstanding he profitinge litle or nothing the Colledge began to be werie of him and the rector taking occasion of the romane aier which this fellow was perswaded that it 〈◊〉 his wit as also wronght some distemperature in his bodie 〈◊〉 hansomlie ridd she Colledge of him vnder 〈◊〉 that the S●minarie of 〈◊〉 in ●●●unce was more conu●●ient 〈◊〉 ●●alth Iohn Nicols therfore depar●●ng Rome towardes Rh●mes in the companie of some other Englishe men whose iornie late ●o England f●ll into consideration vpon the way as is thought what disgrace would ensewe vppon this departure and so betooke him selfe to a new resolution which was to slippe secretlie from his companions which he did néere vnto a citie called F●ligno in Umbria or the Dukedome of Spoleto and so came directlie into Englande where in shorte space he mett with Sir Ow●n Hopton whoe conuerted him soone after in the tower of London Collections out of the premises By this it appeareth firse that Ioh● Nicols was no Iesuit nor yet Preist nor yet so learned and principal a man as was geuen out Se●endlie it appeareth that his recantati●● now is noe great noueltie séeing he hath practi●sed the like before with such facilitie nor hath the tower of Londō more certaintie in this then had the Romish Inquisitiō hold in the other but rather much lesse this being made in prisō the o●●●r in libertie this vpō feare the other voluntarie Lait●●e it séemeth the mans importance beinge no greater th●● appeareth that this his reuolution néeded not to be celebrated with such triumphe of printing preaching and presence of noble men except it were onelie for the honoringe of his conuertour and patron Sir Owen whose good nature séemeth to be to make great store of a litle gaine especiallie if it come far of and from Rome as this did It appeareth further by consideration of the premises that Iohn Nicols his vauntes powred out in his booke to his owne commendation are as voide of probability as fraught with vanity especiallie those which imply great habilitie as to preache before the Pope and others with sufficiencie in the learned tongues c. whereof I must speake a word or two for the discrying

you as wel a Kings doughter as Queen Mary as wel a Kings sister as Queene Mary as lawful Quéene of England I wil not say more as Queene Mary why then how can Papistes be otherwise but eng●she enemies and extreme enemies to Englande These and the lyke arguments in sense though not altogether in the same wordes he dilateth accordinge to his kind of eloquence through out all the firste parte of his booke though he make noe parts at all In the seconde parte he wandreth by certaine controu●rsies but as without al wit and l●arning lyke an english doctour citing all his matter out of Iewels defence of the Apologie For his Martyrologe and Cowpers Epitomye of the Cronicle soe without al modestie or limitation of lying For he saieth that the Papists hold Pag. 99. 96. 99. The Pope to be very God the light of the world and the Saueour of mankinde that they printe him in their bookes L●ptons lyes Our Lord God the Pope that the Pope also acknowledgeth the thinge taking him selfe in deed to ●e a God 100. 98. 172. 193. 131. 171. 5.6 That he dispenseth both against the oulde and newe Testamente * See of this the societie of the name of God before men●ioned let not the Puritanes glorie as thogh they only did ●orbid swearing That he biddeth vs not to forbeare swearinge any day that he aloweth al priests to haue harlots that he geueth licence for monye to keepe as many concubynes as a man wil● that his fast is to crāme in as many banquetinge dishes as men can that all Papistes are wor●e and deserue more death thē drūckerds● theeues murderers and pirates This is Luptons charitable doctrine with many thinges more which I omit In his third parte he proueth his religion b● euident and manifest miracles out of M● For his Acts and Monumēts As for example that one Bu●ton bayliff of Crow●and in Lincolneshire LuPtons miracles Pag. 294. for compelling a Curate to say Masse vpō zeale of papistrie in the begininge of Queene Maries dayes was afterwards for his punnishmente called K. by a crow that fl●w ouer his head and besides that his bearde embrewed with the crows doūg that she let fal vppon him which doung did soe stincke vpon his b●arde as made him continuallye to vomite for diuers dayes * Simple fellow● that ●org●t ●y cutting o● his b●arde to saue his lyfe Pag. 92. vntill he died most miserably Againe that in King Henries daies the Earle of willshyre and others goeing to Rome as Embassatours to the Pope refused to kisse the Popes foote when he helde it out to them at what time the Earles dogg hauinge more deuotion to it as he sayeth then they not only went and kissed the Popes foote but also snatched at his great toe * Poore Pope y● had no chamberlaine to ●epe out dogs signifiing therby that it was a parte more fitte for doggs to kisse then men All these thinges and many more the lyke he proueth out of M. For his Martirologe otherwise called Acts and monuments tied with long chaines in all Churches of Englande to be read with deuotion After Thomas Luptō followeth Thomas Knell of the same predicament but in a higher degrée For he to the vtter extirpation of Papistrie from the face of the earth taketh vpon him to proue that Al Papists whether they be teachers or hearers are in doctrine Schismaticks in faith hereticks in religiō hypocrits in worshipping Idolatours in obedience traitors by nature dogs in māners hogs vnfaithful to all men cōmō persequutors of the scriptures and Church of God Doe you not thincke we shal be vanquished whē our aduersaries armie hath such captaines and champions especially if ryming Elderton ioine with them Elderton●●●●●tle Ierkes for a ●esuite to become a trew● Israelite● assaultinge vs with his Ientle Iirckes cōdemning our cause from the tribunal of an ale bench Is not this a beggerly war●rap trow you which pawneth out such ragges for robes what miserable pouertie are our aduersaries brought vnto when they are faine to publish such scurrility for diuinity riming for reasoning shamelesse railing for orderly disputing but let them procéede on stil they can by no waye pleasure or profit vs more let thē publish Nicols booke of Pilgrimage wherin he promiseth to reuile vs frō top to toe to ring the larme bel against vs to power out al his venome at once to empt the very sincke of slaunder vpō our cause What shal this anoy vs or whom shal al this filth defile As long as their shal be ether honest vertuous learned wise modest noble or gētle mind in Enland so long shal we gaine by these their procéedings A new information from Rome of I. Nicols As I had finished deliuered this treatise to y● print ther came vnto me an honest discréet learned gētlemā frō Rome who affirmed that vpon the sight of I. Nicols booke ther other informatiōs of his doinges in England serche was made for his oration and sermon of ten shéetes of paper presented in Rome before the Pope and regestred as he saith in thrée paper volumes in the office of Inquisition The matter was easely found out and a coppie taken word for word by publique Notaries the cōmon scale also of the office was added vnto it and as this man remembreth the most of all the chéefe officers names subscribed but yet for some other further approbation as I thinke the thing is not hetherto sent from thence or at least not yet come vnto my handes Wherfore the Printer being not able to staye nor I certaine how soone it will come I iudg it not a misse to geue the reader some general intelligence of the matter vntil the thinge it selfe maye be published in print vppon the reporte of this discréet gentleman whoe bothe sawe it and read it and remembreth well the principal contentes therof First therfore he reporteth that Iohn Nicols made nether oration nor sermon in Rome nor that anye suche thinge is there regestred or remembred But only his recantation is ther to be séen of lesse then a shéete of paper in writen hand Nicols oration sermon of ten sheetes become an abiuration of lesse then one sheete together with a longe preface which preface is an ordinarie thing of that courte containing the causes of his repentance and voluntarie offering him selfe thither and the like After this Ihon Nicols commeth to put down his owne faultes committed before in England bothe in doctrine and life And for doctrine the reporter saith he hath numbred vp all the particuler heresies whiche euer he héelde or taught and this with very significante wordes as that he taught the detestable heresie of Luther against prayer for the dead the blasphemus heresie of Caluine against Christes real presence in the sacrament or the like Aboute lyfe the reporter remembreth not much in particuler but only that he saieth there Ego possedi duo