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A71317 Three speeches of the Right Honorable, Sir Francis Bacon Knight, then his Majesties Sollicitor Generall, after Lord Verulam, Viscount Saint Alban. Concerning the post-nati naturalization of the Scotch in England union of the lawes of the kingdomes of England and Scotland. Published by the authors copy, and licensed by authority. Bacon, Francis, 1561-1626. 1641 (1641) Wing B337; ESTC R17387 32,700 73

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in some degree by vertue of the vnion in the Kings person ● if this statute had 〈◊〉 beene made to stop crosse the course of the common Law in that point as if Scotland now should be suitors to the King that an Act might passe to like effect and upon like feare And therefore if you will make good your distinction in this present case shew us a Statute for that But I hope you can shew no Statute of separation betweene England and Scotland And if any man say that this was a Statute declaratory of the Cōmon Law he doth not marke how that is penned for after a kind of Historicall declaration in the Preamble that England was never subject to France the body of the Act is penned thus The King doth grant and establish which are words meerly introductive novae legis as if the King gave a Charter of Franchise and did invest by a Donative the Subjects of England with a new Priviledge or exemption which by the Cōmon Law they had not To come now to the booke-cases which they put which I will couple together because they receive one joynt answere The first is 42. of E. 3. fo. where the booke saith exception was taken that the plaintife was borne in Scotland at Rosse out of the allegeance of England The next is 22. H. 6. fo. 38. Adrians Case where it is pleaded that a woman was borne at Burgis out of the allegeance of England The third is 13. Eliz. Dyer fo. 300 where the case begins thus Doctor Story qui notorie dignoscituresse subditus regni Angliae In all these three say they that is pleaded that the party is subject of the Kingdome of England and not of the King of England To these bookes I give this answer that they be not the Pleas at large but the words of the Reporter who speakes compendiously and narrative and not according to the solemne words of the pleading If you find a case put that it is pleaded a man was seized in Fee simple you will not inferre upon that that the words of the pleading were in fe●do simplici but sibi haeredibus suis But shew mee some president of a pleading at large of Natus sub legeantia Regni Angliae for whereas Mr. VValter said that pleadings are variable in this point he would faine bring it to that but there is no such matter For the pleadings are constant and uniforme in this point they may vary in the word fides or legeantia or obedientia and some other circumstances but in the forme of Regni and Regis they vary not neither can there as J am perswaded be any one instance shewed forth to the contrary See 9. Eliz. 4. Baggots Assize f. 7. where the pleading at large is entred in the booke There you have alienigena natus extra legeantiam domini Regis Angliae See the presidents in the Booke of Entries Pl. 7. and two other places for there be no more and there you shall find still sub legeantia domini Regis or extra legeantiā Domini Regis And therefore the formes of pleading which are things so reverend and are indeed towards the Reasons of the Law as Palma and Pugnus conteyning the Reason of the Law opened or unfolded or displayed they makeall for us And for the very words of Reporters in bookes you must acknowledge and say Ilicet obruimur numera for you have 22 Ass. Pl. 25. 27. 〈◊〉 the Pryor of Ske●●es case Pl. 48. 14. H. 4. f. 19. 3. H. 6. f. 35. 6. H. 8. in my Lord Dyer fol. 2. In all these bookes the very words of the Reporters have the allegeance of the King and not the allegeance of England And the booke in the 24. of Eltz. 3. which is your best booke although while it is tossed at the Bar you have sometimes the word allegeance of England yet when it comes to Thorpe chiefe Iustice to give the rule he faith we will be certified by the Role whether Scotland be within the allegeance of the King Nay that further forme of pleading beateth downe your opinion That it sufficeth not to say that he is borne out of the allegeance of the King and stay there but he must shew in the affirmative under the allegeance of what King or state he was borne The Reason whereof cannot be because it may appeare whether he be a friend or an enemy for that in a reall action is all one not it cannot be because issue shal be taken thereupon for the issue must arise on the other side upon indigena pleaded and traversed And therefore it can have no other reason but to apprise the court more certainly that the countrey of the birth is none of those that are subject to the King As for the tryall that it should be impossible to de tryed I hold it not worth the answering for the ovenire facias shall goe either where the naturall birth is laid although it be but by fiction or if it be laid according to the truth it shal be tryed where the action is brought otherwise you fall upon a maine Rock that breaketh your Argument in pieces for how should the birth of an Irish-man be tryed or of 2 Gersie man Nay how should the birth of a subject be tryed that is borne of English Parents in Spain or Florence or any part of the world for to all these the like objection of tryall may be made because they are within no Counties and this receives no answer And therefore I will now passe on to the second maine Argument It is a rule of the Civill Law say they cum duo jura c. when two rights doe meete in one person there is no confusion of them but they remain still in eye of law distinct as if they were in severall persons and they bring examples of one man Bishop of two Seas or one person that is Rector of two Churches They say this unity in the Bishop or the Rector doth not create any privity between the Parishioners or Dioceseners more then if there were severall Bishops or severall Parsons This rule I allow as was said to be a Rule not of the Civill Law onely but of common reason but receiveth no forced or coyned but a true and sound distinction or limitation which is that it evermore faileth and deceiveth in cases where there is any vigor or operation of the naturall person for generally in coporations the naturall body is but suffulcimentum corporis corporati it is but as a stock to uphold and beare out the corporate body but otherwise it is in the case of the Crown as shall be manifestly proved in due place But to shew that this rule receiveth this distinction I will put but two cases The statute of the 21. Hen. 8. ordaineth that a Marquesse may retaine sixe Chaplaines qualified a Lord Treasurer of England foure a Privie Counsellour three The Lord Treasurer Paulet was Marqueffe of Winchester Lord
can a Scottishman who is a Subject to the naturall person of the King and not to the Crowne of England can a Scottishman I say be an enemy by the Lavv to the Subjects of England or must he not of necessity if he should invade England be a Rebell and no enemy not onely as to the King but as to the Subject Or can any Letters of Marte or reprisall be granted against a Scottishman that should spoyle an English-mans goods at Sea and certainly this case doth presse exceeding neere the principall case for it prooveth plainly that the naturall person of the King hath such a communication of qualities with his body politique as it makes the Subjects of either Kingdomes stand in another degree of privity one towards the other then they did before And so much for the second proofe For the five Acts of Parliament which I spoke of which are concluding to this question The first of them is that concerning the banishment of Hugh Spencer in the time of King Ed. 2. In which act there is contained the charge and accusation whereupon his exile proceeded One Article of which charge is set downe in these words Homage and Oath of the Subject is more by reason of the crowne then by reason of the person of the King So that if the King doth not guide himselfe by reason in right of the Crowne his lieges are bound by their oath to the Crowne to remoove the King By which act doth plain'y appeare the perilous consequence of this distinction concerning the person of the King and the Crowne And yet J doe acknowledge Justice and ingeruously a great difference betweene that assertion and this which is now maintained for it is one thing to make things distinct another thing to make them separable Aliud est distinctio aliud separatio and therefore J assure my selfe that those that now use and urge that diftinction dee as firmely hold that the subjection to the Kings person and to the Crowne are inseparable though distinct as I doe And it is true that the poyson of the opinion assertion of Spencer is like the poyson of a Scorpion more in the taile then in the body For it is the inference that they make which is that the King may be deposed or removed that is the treason and dislayalty of that opinion But by you leave the body is never a whit the more wholesome meare for having such a tayle belonging to it therefore we see that is Locus lubricus an opinion from which a man may ea●ly slide into an absurdity But upon this act of Parliament I will onely note one circumstance more and so leave it which may adde authority unto it in the opinion of the wisest and that is that these Spencers were not ancient nobles or great Patriots that were charged and prosecuted by upstarts and favourites for then that might be said that it was but the action of some flatterers who use to extoll the power of Monarches to be infinite but it was contrary a prosecution of those persons being favourites by the Nobility so as the Nobility themselves which seldome doe subscribe to the opinion of an infinite power of Monarches Yet even they could not endure but their blood did rise to heare that opinion that subjection is owing to the Crowne rather then to the person of the King The second Act of Parliament which determined this case is the act of recognition in the first yeare of his Majestie wherein you shall find that in two severall places the one in the Preamble the other in the body of the Act the Parliament doth recognize that these two Realmes of England and Scotland are under one Imperiall Crowne The Parliament doth not say under one Monarchie or King which mought referre to the person but under ono Imperiall Crowne which cannot be applyed but to the Soveraigne power of Regiment comprehending both Kingdomes And the third act of Parliament is the Act made in the fourth yeare of his Majesties Raigne for the abolition of hostile Lawes wherein your Lordships shall find likewise in two places that the Parliament doth acknowledge that there is an union of these two Kingdomes already begun in his Majesties person So as by the declaration of that act they have not onely one King but there is an union in inception in the Kingdomes themselves These two are Judgements in Parliament by way of declaration of Law against which no man can speake And certainly these are righteous and true Iudgements to be relyed upon not onely for the authority of them but for the verity of them for to any that shall well and deeply weigh the effects of Law upon this conjunction it cannot but appeare that although partes integrales of the Kingdome as the Philosophers speake such as the Lawes the Officers the Parliament are not yet commixed yet neverthelesse there is but one and the selfe-same fountaine of soveraigne power depending upon the ancient submission whereof I spake in the beginning and in that sense the Crownes and the Kingdomes are truly said to be united And the force of this truth is such that a grave and learned Gent. that defended the contrary opinion did confesse thus farre That in ancient times when Monarchies as he said were but heapes of people without any exact forme of policy that the Naturalization and communication of Priviledges did follow the person of the Monarch But otherwise since States were reduced to a more exact forme So as thus farre we did consent but still I differ from him in this that those more exact formes wrought by time and custome and Lawes are neverthelesse still upon the first foundation and doe serve onely to perfect and corroborate the force and bond of the first submission and in no sort to disanullor destroy it And therefore with these two acts doe J likewise couple the Act of 14. Ed. 3. which hath beene alleadged of the other side For by collating of that Act with this former too the truth of that we affirme will the more evidently appeare according unto the rule of reason Opposita juxta se posita magis elucescunt That act of 14. is an act of separation These two Acts formerly recited are Acts tending to union This Act is an act that maketh a new Law it is by the words of grant and establish these two Acts declare the common law as it is being by words of Recognition and Confession And therefore upon the difference of these lawes you may fubstantially ground this position That the Common-law of England upon the adjunction of any Kingdome unto the King of England doth make some degree of union in the Crownes and Kingdomes themselves except by a speciall Act of Parliament they be dissevered Lastly the 5. Act of Parliament which I promised is the Act made in the 42. of E. 3. cap. ● 10. which is expresse decision of the point in question The words are Item upon the Petition put
Petitionis or Ius Honorum For though a man had voyce yet he was not capable of honour and office But these be the devises commonly of popular or free estates which are jealous whom they take into their number and are unfit for Monarchies But by the Law of England the subject that is naturall borne hath a capacity or ability to all benefits whatsoever I say capacity or ability But to reduce Potentiam in actum is another case For an Earle of Ireland though he be naturalized in England yet hath so voyce in Parliament of England except he have either a call by Writ or a creation by Patent but he is capable of either But upon this quadripartite division of the ability of persons I doe observe to your Lordships three things being all effectually pertinent to the question in hand The first is that if any man conceive that the reasons for the Post-nati might serve as well for the Ante-nati He may by the distribution which wee have made plainly perceive his error For the Law looketh not back and therefore cannot by any matter ex post facto after birth after the state of the birth wherein no doubt the Law hath a grave and profound reason which is this in few words Nemo subito fingitur aliud est nasci aliud fieri Wee indeed more respect and affect thse worthy Gentlemen of Scotland whose merits and conversations we know but the Law that proceeds upon generall reason and looks upon no mens faces affecteth and priviledgeth those which drew their first breath under the obeisance of the King of England The second point is that by the former distribution it appeareth that there be but two conditions by birth either Alien or naturall borne nam tertium penitus ignor amus It is manifest then that if the Post nati of Scotland be not naturall borne they are alien born and in no better degree at all than Flemmings French Italians Spanish Germans and others which are all at this time Alien friends by reason his Majesty is in peace with all the World The third point seemeth to mee very worthy the consideration which is that in all the distribution of persons and the degrees of abilities or capacities the Kings Act is all in all without any manner of respect to Law or Parliament For it is the King that makes an Alien enemy by proclaiming a war wherewith the Law or Parliament intermeddles not So the King only grants Safe-conducts wherewith Law and Parliament intermeddle not It is the King likewise that maketh an Alien friend by concluding a peace wherewith Law and Parliament intermeddle not It is the King that makes a Denizon by his Charter absolutely of his prerogative and power wherewith Law and Parliament intermedle not And therefore it is strongly to be inferred that as all these degrees depend wholly upon the Kings act and no wayes upon Law or Parliament So the fourth although it cannot by the Kings Patent but by operation of Law yet that the law in that operation respecteth onely the Kings person without respect of subjection to Law or Parliament And thus much by way of explanation and inducement which being all matter in effect confessed i● the strongest ground-worke to that which is contradicted or controverted There followeth the confutation of the Arguments on the contrary side That which hath beene materially objected may be reduced to foure heads The first is that the priviledge of Naturalization followeth Allegeance and that allegeance followeth the Kingdome The second is drawne from that common ground Cum duo jura concarrunt in una persona aquum est ac si essent in duobus a rule the words whereof are taken from the Civill Law but the matter of it is received in all lawes being a very line or rule of reason to avoyd confusion The third consisteth of certaine inconveniencies conceived to ensue of this generall naturalization ipso jure The fourth is not properly an objection but a preoccupation of an objection or proofe on our part by a distinction devised betweene Countries devolute by descent and acquired by Conquest For the first it is not properly to observe that those which maintaine this new opinion whereof there is altum Silentium in our bookes of Law are not well agree in what forme to utter and expresse that for some said that allegeance hath respect to the Law some to the Crowne some to the Kingdome some to the body politique of the King so there is confusion of tongues amongst them as it commonly commeth to passe in opinions that have their foundations in subtilty and imagination of mans wit and not in the ground of nature But to leave their words and to come to their proofes they endeavour to prove this conceipt by three manner of proofes First by reason then by certaine inferences out of Statutes and lastly by certaine booke-cases mentioning and reciting the formes of pleadings The reason they bring is this That Naturalization is an operation of the Law of England and so indeed it is that may bee the true genus of it Then they adde that granted that the Law of England is of force onely within the Kingdome and Dominions of England and cannot operate but where it is in force But the Law is not in force in Scotland therefore that cannot endure this benefit of Naturalization by a birth in Scotland This reason is plausible and sensible but extreamely erronious For the Law of England for matters of benefit or forfeitures in England operateth over the World And because it is truely said that Respublica continetur poena praemio I will put a case or two of either It is plaine that if a Subject of England had conspired the death of the King in forraine parts it was by the Common Law of England treason How prove I that By the Statute of 35. of H. 8. ca. 2. wherein you shall find no words at all of making any new case of treason which was not treason before but onely of ordaining a forme of triall Ergo it was treason before And if so then the Law of England workes in forraine parts So of contempts if the King send his Privy Seale to any Subject beyond the Seas commanding him to returne and hee disobey no man will doubt but there is a contempt and yet the fact enduring the contempt was committed in forraine parts Therefore the Law of England doth extend to Acts or matters done in forraine parts So of reward Priviledge or benefit wee need seeke no other instance then the instance in question for I will put you a case that no man shall deny where the Law of England doth worke and conferre the benefit of Naturalization upon a birth neither within the Dominions of the Kingdome nor King of England By the Statute of 25. E. 3. which if you will beleeve Hussey is but a Declaration of the Common Law all children borne in any parts of the World if
proceed therefore to the prooses of our part your Lordships cannot but know many of them must be already spent in the answer which we have made to the objections For corruptio unius generatio alterius holdes aswell in Arguments as in Nature the destruction of an objection begets a proofe But neverthelefse I will avoid all iteration least I should seem either to distract your memories or to abuse your patience But will hold my selfe onely to these proofs which stand substantially of themselves and are not intermixed with matter of confutation I will therefore prove unto your Lordships that the post-natus of Scotland is by the Law of England nat●rall and ought fo to be adjudged by three courses of proofe 1. Bi●●t upon point of favour of Law 2. Secondly upon reasons and authorities of Law 3. And lastly upon former presidents examples Favour of Law what meane J by that the Law is equall and favoureth not It is true not persons but things or matters it doth favour Is it not a common principle that the Law favoureth three things Life Liberty Dower And what is the reason of this favour This because our Law is grounded upon the Law of Nature And these three things doe flow from the Law of Nature preservation of life Naturall Liberty which every Beast or Bird seeketh and affecteth naturally the society of man and wife whereof Dower is the reward naturall It is well doth the Law favour Liberty so highly as a man shall infranchise his bondman when hee thinketh not of it by granting to him Lands or Goods And is the reason of it quia natura omnes homines erant liberi and that servitude or villenage doth crosse and abridge the Law of Nature And doth not the selfe-same reason hold in the present case For my Lords by the Law of Nature all men in the world are naturalized one towards another they were all made of one lumpe of earth of one breath of God they had the same common Parents Nay at the first they were as the Scripture sheweth unius Labii of one Language untill the curse which curse thankes be to God our present case is exempted from It was Ciuill and Nationall Lawes that brought in these words and differences of Civis and Exterus Alien Native And therefore because they tend to abridge the Law of Nature the Law favoureth not them but takes them strictly even as our Law hath an excellent rule that customes of Townes Burroughes shall be taken and construed strictly precisely because they doe abridge and derogate from the law of the land So by the same reason all Nationall Lawes whatsoever are to be taken strictly and hardly in any point wherein they abridge and derogate from the law of Nature Whereupon I conclude that your Lordships cannot judge the law for the other side except the case be Luce clarius And if it appeare to you but doubtfull as I thinke no man in his right senses but will yeeld it to be at least doubtfull Then ought your Lordships under your correction be it spoken to pronounce for us because of the favour of the Law Furthermore as the law of England must favour Naturalization as a branch of the law of Nature so it appeares manifestly that it doth favour it accordingly For is it not much to make a Subject Naturalized By the law of England it should suffice either place or Parents if he be born in England it is matter no though his Parents be Spanyards or what you will On th' other side if he be borne of English Parents it skilleth not though he be borne in Spaine or in any other place of the World In such sort doth the Law of England open her lappe to receive in people to be Naturalized which indeed sheweth the wisedome and excellent composition of our law And that it is the law of a Warlike and Magnanimous Nation sit for Empire For looke and you shall find that such kind of estates have been ever liberall in point of Naturalization whereas Marchant-like and envious estates have bin otherwise For the reasons of law joyned with authorities I doe first observe to your Lordships that our assertion or affirmation is simple and plaine that it sufficeth to naturalization that there be one King and that the party be natus ad sidem Regis agreeable to the definition of Littleton which is Alien is he which is born out of the allegeance of our Lord the King They of th' other side speak of respects and quoad and quatenus and such subtilties and distinctions To maintaine therefore our assertion J will use three kindes of proofes The first is that allegeance cannot be applyed to the Law or Kingdome but to the person of the King because the Allegeance of the Subject is more large and spatious and hath a greater latitude and comprehension then the Law or the Kingdome And therefore it cannot be a dependency of that without the which it may of it selfe subsist The second proofe which I will use is that the Naturall body of the King hath an operation and influence into his body politique aswell as his body politique hath upon his body Naturall And therefore that although his body politique of King of England and his body politique of King of Scotland be soverall and distinct Yet neverthelesse his Naturall person which is one hath an operation upon both and createth aprivity betweene them And the third proofe is the binding text of five severall statutes For the first of these I shall make it manifest that the allegeance is of a greater extent and dimension then Lawes or Kingdome and cannot confist by the lawes meerely because it began before laws it continueth after Lawes and it is in vigour where Lawes are suspended and have not their force That it is more antient then law appeareth by that which was spoken in the beginning by way of inducement where I did endeavour to demonstrate that the originall age of Kingdomes was governed by naturall equity that Kings were more antient then Law-givers that the first submissions were simple and upon confidence to the person of Kings and that the Allegeance of Subjects to hereditary Monarchies can no more be said to consist by lawes then the obedience of Children to Parents That Allegeance continueth after lawes I will onely put the case which was remembred by two great Judges in a great Assembly the one of them now with God which was that if a King of England should be expalsed his Kingdome and some particular subjects should follow him in flight or exile in forreigne parts and any of them there should conspire his death that upon his rocoveryof his Kingdome such a subject might by the Law of England be proceeded with for Treason committed and perpetrated at what time he had no Kingdome and in place wher ethe Law did not bind That Allegeance is in vigour and force where the power of Law hath a
of England is highly to be commended For of this law there are two grounds of reason The one of equity The other of policy That of Equity was because the common people were in no fault but as the Scripture saith in a like case quid fecerunt oves iftoe It was the cowardise and disloyalty of their Governours that deserved punishmēt butwhat had these sheep done and therefore to have punish't them and deprived them of their lands fortunes had bin unjust That of policy was because if the law had forthwith upon the losse of the Countreyes by an accident of time pronounced the people for Aliens it had been a kind of Cession of their right and a diselaymer in them and so a greater difficulty to recover them And therefore we see the Statute which altered the law in this point was made in the time of a weake king that as it seemed despaired ever to recover his right and therefore thought better to have a little present profit by escheats then the continuance of his claime and the countenance of his right by the admitting of them to enjoy their inheritances as they did before The State therefore of this point being thus opened it resteth to prove our assertion that they were naturalized for the clearing whereof I shall need but to reade the authorities they be so direct and pregnant The first is the very text of the Statute of Praerogativa Regis Rex habebit escaetas de terris Normannorum cujuscunque feodi fuerint salvo servitio quod pertinet ad capitales dominos feodi illius hoc similiter intelligendum est si aliqua haereditus descendat alicui nato in partibus transmarinis cujus antecefsores fuerunt ad fidem Regis Franciae ut tempore Regis Iohannis non ad fidem Regis Angliae sicut contigit de Baronia Monumetae c. By which Statute it appeares plainly that before the time of King Iohn there was no colour of any Escheare because they were the kings Subjects in possession as Scotland now is but onely it determines the Law from that time forward This Statute if it had in it any obscurity it is taken away by two lights the one placed before it and th'other placed after it both authors of great credit the 〈◊〉 for antient th' other for late times The former is 〈◊〉 in his Cap. de exception 〈…〉 lib. 5. fol. 427. and his words are these Est etiam alia exceptie quae tenenti competitex persona petentis propter defectum Nationis quae dilatoria est nonperimit actionem ut si qnis alienigena qui fuerit ad fidem Regis Franciae actionem instituat versus aliquem qui fuerit ad fidem Regis Angliae tali nonrespondeatur saltem donec terrae fuerint communes By these words it appeareth that after the losse of the Provinces beyond the Seas the Naturalization of the Subjects of those Provinces was in no sort extinguished but onely was in suspence during time of warre and no longer for he saith plainly that the exception which we call plea to the person of Alien was not peremptory but onely dilatory that is to say during the time of war and untill there were peace concluded which hee tearmes by these words donec terrae fuerint communes which though the phrase seeme somewhat obscure is expounded by Bracton himselfe in his fourth booke fol. 297. to be of peace made and concluded whereby the Inhabitants of England and those Provinces might enjoy the profits and fruits of their lands in either place communiter that is respectively or as well the one as th'other so as it is cleere they were no Aliens in right but onely interrupted and debarred of Suites in the Kings Courts in time of Warre The authority after the Statute is that of Master Stamfords the best Expositor of a statute that hath bin in our law a man of reverend judgment excellent order in his writings his words are in his expositiō upon the branch of that statute which we read before By this branch it should appeare that at this time men of Normandy Gascoyne Guienne Anjou and Brittaine were inheritable within this Realme aswell as English-men because that they were sometimes Subjects to the Kings of England and under their Dominion untill K. Johns time as is aforesaid yet after his time those men saving such whose lands were taken away for treason were still inheritable within this Realme till the making of this Statute and in the time of peace betweene the two Kings of England and France they were answerable within this Realme if they had brought any action for their Lands and Tenements So as by these three authorities every one so plainly pursuing th' other we conclude that the subjects of Gascoyne Guienne Anjou and the rest from their first union by descent untill the making of the Statute of praerogativa Regis were inheritable in England and to be answered in the Kings Courts in all actions except it were in time of warre Nay more which is de abundante that when the Provinces were lost and disannexed and that the King was but King de jure over them and not de facto Yet neverthelesse the priviledge of naturalization continued There resteth yet one objection rather plausible to a popular understanding then any waies forcible in law or learning which is a difference taken between the Kingdome of Scotland and these Dutchies for that the one is a Kingdome and th' other was not so and therefore that those Provinces being of an inferiour nature did acknowledge our Lawes and Seales and Parliament which the Kingdome of Scotland doth not This difference was well given over by Mr. Walter for it is plaine that a Kingdome and absolute Dukedome or any other Soveraigne estate doe differ honore and not potestate For divers Dutchies and Countries that are now were sometimes Kingdomes and divers kingdomes that are now were sometimes Dutchies or of other inferiour Style wherein we neede not travaile abroad since we have in our owne state so notorious an instance of the Countrey of Ireland whereof King H. 8. of late time was the first that writ himselfe King the former Style being L. of Ireland and no more and yet Kings had the same authority before that they have had since and the same Nation the same marks of a Soveraigne State as their Parliaments their Armes their Coynes as they now have so as this is too superficiall an allegation labour upon And if any doe conceive that Gascoyne and Guyenne were governed by the Lawes of England First that cannot be in reason for it is a true ground that wheresoever any Princes Title unto any Countrey is by Law he can never change the Lawes for that they create his Title and therefore no doubt those Dutchies retained their owne Lawes which if they did then they could not be subject to the Lawes of England And next againe the fact or practize was otherwise as appeareth by all consent of Story and Record For those Dutchies continued governed by the Civill Law their tryalls by witresses and not by Jurie their lands Testamentary and the like Now for the colours that some have endeavoured to give that they should have beene subordinate to the government of England they were partly weake and partly such as make strongly against them for as to that that writs of Habeas corpus under the great Seale of England have gone to Gascoyne it is no manner of proofe for that the Kings writs which are mendatory and not writs of ordinary Justice may goe to his Subjects into any forraine parts whatsoever and under what Seale it pleaseth him to use and as to that that some Acts of Parliament have beene cited wherein the Parliaments of England have taken upon them to order matters of Gascoyne if those Statutes be well looked into nothing doth more plainly convince the contrary for they intermeddle with nothing but that that concerneth either the English Subjects personally or the territories of England locally and never the Subjects of Gascoyne for looke upon the Statute of 27. of Ed. 3. ca. 5. there it is said That there shall be no fore-stasting of Wines but by whom onely by English Merchants not a word of the Subjects of Gascoyne and yet no doubt they mighr be offenders in the same kind So in the sixt Chapter it is said That all Marchants Gascoyoes may safely bring Wines into what part it shall please them here now are the persons of Gascoynes but then the place whether● into the Realme of England and in the 7. Chap. that erects the Ports of Burdeaux and Bayonne for the staple Townes of wine the Statute Ordaines that if any but who English Marchant or his Servants shall buy or bargaine other where his body shall be arrested by the Steward of Gascoyne or the Constable of Burdeaux true for the Officers of England could not catch him in Gascoyne but what shall become of him shall he be proceeded with within Gascoyne No but he shall be sent over into England into the Tower of London And this doth notably disclose the reason of that custome which some have sought to wrest the other way that custome I say whereof a forme doth yet remaine that in every Parliament the King doth appoint certaine Committees in the Upper-House to receive the Petitions of Normandy Guyenne and the rest which as by the former Statute doth appeare could not be for the ordering of the governments there but for the liberties and good usage of the Subjects of those parts when they came hither or via versa for the restraining of the abuses and misdemeanors of our Subjects when they went thither Wherefore I am now at an end For us to speake of the mischiefes I hold it not fit for this place left we should seeme to bend the Lawes to policy and not to take them in their true and naturall sense It is enough that every man knowes that it is true of these two Kingdomes which a good Father said of the Churches of Christ Si inseparabiles insuperabiles Some things I may have forgot and some things perhaps I may forget willingly for I will not presse any opinion or declaration of late time which may prejudice the liberty of this debate but ex dictis ex non dictis upon the whole matter I prove Judgement for the Plaintiffe
THREE SPEECHES OF The Right Honorable Sir Francis Bacon Knight then his Majesties Sollicitor Generall after LORD VERULAM Viscount Saint Alban Concerning the POST-NATI Naturalization of the Scotch in England Vnion of the Lawes of the Kingdomes of England and Scotland Published by the Authors Copy and Licensed by Authority LONDON Printed by Richard Badger for Samuel Broun and are to be sold at his shop in St. Pauls Church-yard at the signe of the white Lyon and Ball 1641. 15. May 1641. At a Committee appointed by the Honourable House of Commons in Parliament for examination of books of the licensing and suppresing of them It is ordered that these three speeches or treatises be published in print Edward Dering The Argument of S r. Francis Bacon Knight His Majesties Sollicitor generall in the Case of the POST-NATI of Scotland in the Exchequer Chamber before the Lord Chancellor and all the Iudges of England May it please Your Lord-ships THis Case Your Lord-ships doe well perceive to be of exceeding ' great consequence For whether you doe measure that by place that reacheth not onely to the Realme of England but to the whole Iland of Great-Brytaine or whether you measure that by time that extendeth not onely to the present time but much more to future generations Et natinatorum et qui nascentur ab illis And therefore as that is to receive at the barre a full and free debate so I doubt not but that shall receive from your Lord-ships a sound and iust resolution according to law and according to truth For my Lords though he were thought to have said well that said that for his word Rex fortissimus Yet he was thought to have said better evenin the opinion ofa King him selfe that said Veritas fortissima et pravalet And I doe much rejoyce to observe such a Concurrence in the whole carriage of this cause to this end that truth may prevaile The case no fained or framed case but a true case betweene true partyes The title handled formerly in some of the Kings Courts and Free-hold upon it used indeed by his Majesty in his high wisedome to give an end to this great question but not raysed occasio as the Schoole-men say arrepta non porrecta The case argued in the Kings Bench by M. Walter with great liberty and yet with good approbation of the Court The persons assigned to be of Counsell on that side inferiour to none of their quality and degree in learning and some of them most conversant and exercised in the question The Iudges in the Kings Bench have adjourned it to this place for conference with the rest of their brethren Your Lord-ship my Lord Chancellor though you be absolute Iudg in the Court where you sit and might have called to you such assistance of Iudges as to you had seemed good yet would not fore-run or leade in this case by any opinion there to be given but have chosen rather to come your selfe to this assembly all tending as I sayd to this end whereunto I for my part doe heartily subscribe ut vincat veritas that truth may first appeare and then prevaile And I doe firmely hold and doubt not but I shall well maintaine that this is the truth That Calvin the plaintiefe is Ipso Iure by the law of England a naturall borne subject to purchase Free-hold and to bring reall actions within Eugland In this case I must so consider the time as I must much more consider the matter And therefore though it may draw my speach into further length yet I dare not handle a case of this nature confusedly but purpose to observe the ancient and exact forme of pleadings which is First to explaine or induce Then to confute or answere objections And lastly to prove or confirme And first for explanation The outward question in this case is no more but whether a child borne in Scotland since his Majesties happy comming to the Crowne of England be naturalized in England or no But the inward question or State of the question evermore beginneth where that which is confessed on both sides doth leave It is confest that if these two Realmes of England and Scotland were united under one Law and one Parliament and thereby incorporated and made as one Kingdome that the Post-natus of such an union should be naturalized It is confessed that both Realmes are united in the person of our Soveraigne or because I will gaine nothing by surreption in the putting of the question that one the same naturall person is King of both Realmes It is confessed that the Lawes and Parliaments are severall So then whether this priviledge and benefit of Naturalization be an accessory or dependancy up on that which is one and joint or upon that which is severall hath beene and must be the depth of this question And therefore your Lord-ships doe see the State of this question doth evidently lead me by way of inducement to speake of three things The King the Law and the priviledge of Naturalization For if you well understand the nature of the two Principals and againe the nature of the Accessory Then shall you discerne to whether Principal the Accessory doth properly referre as a shadow to a body or Iron to an Adamant And there your Lord-ships will give me leave in a case of this quality first to visit and open the foundations and fountaines of Reason and not to begin with the positions and eruditions of a Municipall Law for so was that done in the great Case of Mines and so ought that to be done in all cases of like nature And this doth not at all detract from the sufficiency of our lawes as incompetent to decide their owne cases but rather addeth a dignity unto them when their reason appearing as well as their authority doth shew them to be as fine moneyes which are currant not onely by the stampe because they are so received but by the naturall metall that is the reason and wisedome of them And Master Littleton himselfe in his whole booke doth commend but two things to the professors of the law by the name of his sonnes the one the inquiring and searching out the reasons of the law and the other the observing of the formes of pleadings And never was there any case that came in Iudgement that required more that Littletons advice should be followed in those two points then doth the present case in question And first of the King It is evident that all other common-wealths Monarchies onely excepted doe snbsist by a law preceedent For where authority is divided amongst many officers and they not perpetuall but annuall or temporary and not to receive their authority but by election and certaine persons to have voice onely to that election and the like These are busie and curious frames which of necessity doe presuppose a law precedent written or unwritten to guide and direct them But in Monarchies especially hereditary that is when
potestatis est pleuitudo tempest at is And although the King in his Person be Solutus Legibus yet his Acts and Grants are limited by Law and we argue them every day But I demand Do these offices or operations of law evacuate or frustrate the originall submission which was naturall or shall it be said that all allegiance is by law No more than it can be said that potest potest●● patris the power of the Father over the Child is by Law and yet no doubt Lawes do diversely define of that also the Law of some Nations having given Fathers power to put their Children to death others to sell them thrice others to disinherit them by testament at pleasure and the like Yet no man will affirm that the obedience of the child is by law though lawes in some points doe make it more positive And even so it is of allegiance of subjects to hereditary Monarches which is corroborate and confirmed by law but is the worke of the law of nature And therefore you shall finde the observation true and almost generall in all states that their law-givers were long after their first Kings who governed for a time by naturall equity without law So was Theseus long before Salo● in A●h●m for was E●●iti●● and 〈◊〉 long before Lycurgus in Sparta So was Romulus long before the Decemviri And even amongst our selves there were more ancient Kings of the Saxons and yet the Lawes ran under the name of Edgars Lawes And in the refounding of the Kingdome in the person of William the Conqueror when the Lawes were in some confusion for a time a man may truly say that King Edward the first was the first Law-giver who enacting some Laws and collecting others brought the Law to some perfection And therefore I will conclude this point with the Style which divers Acts of Parliaments do give unto the King which terme him very effectually and truly Our Naturall Sove raigne Liege Lord And as it was said by a principall Judge here present when he served in another place and question was moved by some occasion of the title of Bulleins Lands That he would never allow that Queene Elizabeth I remember it for the efficacy of the phrase should bee a Statute Queene but a Common Law Queen So surely I shall hardly consent that the King shall be esteemed or called only Our Rightfull Soveraigne or Our Lawfull Soveraigne but our Naturall Liege Soveraigne As Acts of Parliament speake For as the common Law is more worthy than the Statute Law So the Law of Nature is more worthy than them both Having spoken now of the King and the Law it remaineth to speake of the priviledge and benefit of Naturalization it selfe and that according to the rules of the Law of England Naturalization is best discerned in the degrees whereby the Law doth mount and ascend thereunto For it seemeth admirable unto mee to consider with what a measured hand and with how true poportions our Law doth impart and conferre the severall degrees of this benefit The degrees are foure The first degree of persons as to this purpose ●hat the Law takes knowledge of is an Alien Enemy that is such a one as is borne under the obeisance of a Prince or State that is in hostility with the King of England To this person the Law giveth no benefit or protection at all but if hee come into the Realme after war proclaimed or war in fact he comes at his own perill hee may be used as an enemy For the Law accounts of him but as the Scripture saith as of a Spye that comes to see the weaknesse of the land And so it is 2. of Ric. the 3 fo. 2. Neverthelesse this admitteth a distinction For if he come with safe conduct otherwise it is For then he may not be violated either in person or goods But yet hee must fetch his Justice at the fountaine head for none of the Conduit pipes are open to him he can have no remedy in any of the Kings Courts but he must complain himselfe before the Kings Privy Councell There he shall have a proceeding summary from houre to houre the cause shall be determined by naturall equity and not by rules of Law and the decree of the Councell shall be executed by ayde of the Chauncery as is 13. Edw. 4. An this is the first degree The second person is an Alien friend that is such a one as is borne under the obeisance of such a King or State as is confederate with the King of England or at least not in war with him To this person the Law allotteth this benefit that as the Law accounts that the hold it hath over him is but a tranfitory hold for he may be an Enemy So the Law doth indu● him but with a transitory benefit that is of moveable goods and personall actions But for free-hold or lease or actions reall or mixt he is not inabled except it be in auter droit And so it is 9 E. 4 fo. 7. 19. E. 4 fo. 6. 5. Ma. and divers other books The third person is a Denizon using the word properly for sometime it is confounded with a naturall borne subject This is one that is but Subditus insitivus or adoptivus and is never by birth but only by the Kings Charter and by no other meane come he never so young into the Realme or stay he never so long Mansion or Habitation will not indenise him no nor swearing obedience to the King in a Leete which doth in-law the subject but only as I said the Kings grace and gift To this person the Law giveth an ability and capacity abridged not in matter but in time And as there was a time when hee was not subject So the Law doth not acknowledge him before that time For if he purchase free-hold after his Denization he may take it but if he have purchased any before he shall not hold it So if hee have children after they shall inherit but if hee have any before they shall not inherit So as he is but priviledged à parte post as the Schoole-men say and not à parte ante The fourth and last degree is a Naturall borne subject which is evermore by birth or by Act of Parliament and he is compleate and entire For in the Law of England there is nil ultra there is no more subdivision or more subtile division beyond these And therein it seemeth to mee that the wisdome of the Law as I said is to be admired both ways both because it distinguisheth so far and because it doth not distinguish further For I know that other Lawes do admit more curious distinction of this priviledge For the Romanes had besides 〈◊〉 Civitatis which answereth to Naturalization Ius Suffragii For although a man were naturalized to take lands and inheritance yet he was not inabled to have a voyce at passing of Laws or at election of Officers And yet further they have Ius
Treasurer of England and privie counsellor all at once Question was whether hee should qualifie 13. Chaplaines Now by the Rule cum duo Iura he should but adjudged he should not And the Reason was because the attendance of Chaplaines concerned and respected his naturall person he had but one soule though he had three Offices The other case which I will put is the case of Homage a man doth homage to his Lord for a Tenancie held of the mannor of Dale there descendeth unto him afterwards a Tenancie held of the mannor of Sale which mannor of Sale is likewise in the hands of the same Lord Now by the Rule cum duo jura he should doe homage againe two Tenancies and two Seignories though but one Tenant and one Lord aequum est ac si esset in duobus But ruled that he should not doe homageagaine nay in the Case of the King hee shall not pay a second respect of Homage as upon grave and deliberate consideration it was resolved 24. H. 8. and Vsus Scaccarii as is there said accordingly And the Reason is no other but because when a man is sworne to his Lord hee cannot be sworne over againe he hath but one Conscience and the Obligation of this Oatli trencheth betweene the naturall person of the Tenant and the naturall person of the Lord And certainly the Case of Homage and Tenure and of Homage Liege which is one case are things of a neere Nature save that the one is much inferiour to the other but it is good to behold these great matters of State in cases of lower Element as the Eclipse of the Sun is used to be in a paile of Water The third maine Argument conteyneth certain supposed inconveniences which may ensue of a generall Naturalization ipso jure of which kind three have bin specially remembred The first is the losse of profit to the King upon Letters of Denization and purchases of Aliens The second is the concourse of Scottishmen into this Kingdome to the infeebling of that Realme of Scotland in people and the impoverishing of this Realme of England in wealth The third is that the reason of this case stayeth not within the compasse of the present case for although it were some reason that Scottishmen were naturalized being people of the same Iland and language yet the reason which we urge which is That they are subject to the same King may be applyed to persons every way more estranged from us then they are as if in future time in the Kings descendents there should be a match with Spaine and the Dominions of Spaine should bee united with the Crowne of England by one reason say they all the VVest-Indies should be naturalized which are people not onely alterius Soli but alterius Caeli To these conceits of inconvenience how easie it is to give answer and how weake they are in themselves I thinke no man that doth attentively ponder them can doubt For how small revenue can arise of such Denizations and how honourable it were for the King to take escheats of his Subjects as if they were forreyners for seisure of aliens Lands are in regard the King hath no hold or command of their persons and services every one may perceive And for the confluence of Scottishmen I thinke wee all conceive the Spring-tide is past at the Kings first comming in And yet wee see very few families of them throughout the Cities Boroughes of England And for the naturalizing of the Indies we can readily helpe that when the case comes for we can make an act of Parliament of separation if we like not their consort But these being Reasons politique and not legall and we are not now in Parliament but before a Judgment Seate I will not meddle with them specially since I have one answer which avoids and confounds all their objections in Law which is that the very self-same objections doe hold in Countreyes purchased by Conquest For in Subjects obtained by Conquest it were more profit to indenizate by the Poll in Subjects obteyned by Conquest they may come in too fast And if King Hen. 7. had accepted the offer of Christopher Columbus whereby the Crowne of England had obteyned the Indies by conquest or occupation all the Indies had bin naturalized by the confession of the adverse part And therfore since it is confessed that Subjects obteyned by Conquest are naturalized that all these objections are common and indifferent as well to case of Conquest as case of descent these objections are in themselves destroyed And therefore to proceed now to overthrow that distinction of descent and Conquest Plato saith well the strongest of all authorities is if a man can alledge the authority of his adversaries against him selfe we doe urge the Confession of the other side that they confessed the Irish are naturalized that they confesse the Subjects of the Iles of Gersie and Garnsey and Barwick to be naturalized and the subjects of Calice and Tourney when they were English were naturalized as you may find in the 5. E. in Dyer upon the question put to the Judges by Sir Nicholas Bacon Lord Keeper To avoid this they flye to a difference which is new coyned and is I speake not to the disadvantage of the persons that use it for they are driven to it tanquam ad ultimum refugium but the difference it selfe it is I say full of ignorance and error And therefore to take a view of the supports of this difference they alledge foure Reasons The first is that Countreyes of Conquest are made parcell of England because they are acquired by the Armes and Treasure of England To this I answer That it were a very strange Argument that if I waxe rich upon the Mannor of Dale and upon the Revenue thereof purchase a close by it that it should make that parcell of the Mannor of Dale But I will set this new Learning on ground with a question or case put For J oppose them that hold this opinion with this Question if the King should conquer any Forreigne Countrey by an Army compounded of English-men and Scottish-men as it is like whensoever Warres are so it will be I demand whether this Countrey conquered shall qe naturalized both in England and Scotland because it was purchased by the joynt Armes of both And if yea whether any man will thinke it reasonable that such Subjects bee naturalized in both Kingdomes the one Kingdome not being naturalized towards the other These are the intricate consequences of Conceits A second reason they alledge is that Countreyes won by Conquest become subject to the Lawes of England which Countries Patrimoniall are not and that the Law doth draw the Allegeance and Allegeance Naturalization But to the Major proposition of that Argument touching the dependancy of aliegeance upon Law somewhat hath bin already spoken and full answer shal be given when we come to it But in this place it shall suffice to say that
cessation appeareth notably in time of Warres for silent leges inter arma And yet the Soveraignty and Imperiall power of the King is so farre from being then extinguished or suspended as contrariwsse it is raised and made more absolute for then he may proceed by his supreame authority and Martiall Law without observing formalities of the Lawes of his Kingdome And therefore whosoever speaketh of Lawes and the Kings power by Lawes and the Subjects obedience or allegeance to Lawes speake but of one halfe of the Crowne For Bracton out of Justinian doth truly define the Crowne to consist of Lawes and Armes power Civill and Martiall with the latter whereof the Law doth not intermeddle so as where it is much spoken that the Subjects of England are under one Law and the Subjects of Scotland are under another Law it is true at Edenborough or Sterling or againe in London or Yorke But if Englishmen and Scottishmen meet in an Army Royall before Calice I hope then they are under one Law So likewise not onely in time of warre but in time of peregrination If a King of England travaile or passe through forraine territories yet the allegeance of his Subjects followeth him as appeareth in that not able case which is reported in 〈◊〉 where one of the traine of K. Ed. I. as be past through France from the Holy Land imbezelled some silver Plate at Paris and Jurisdiction was demanded of this crime by the French Kings Counsell at Law 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and demanded likewise by the Officers of K. Edw. ratione personae and after much solemnity and contestation and interpleading it was ruled and determined for King Edward and the party tryed and judged before the Knight Marshall of the Kings house and hanged after the English Law and execution in St. Germaines meadovves and so much for my first proofe For my second maine proofe that is drawn from the true legall distinction of the Kings severall capacities for they that maintaine the contrary opinion doe in effect destroy the whole force of the Kings naturall capacity as if it were drowned and swallowed up by his politique And therefore I will first prove to your Lordships that his two capacities are in no sort confounded and secondly that as his capacity politique worketh so upon his naturall person as it makes it differ from all other the naturall persons of his Subjects so è converso his naturall body worketh so upon his politique as the corporation of the Crowne utterly differeth from all other Corporations within the Realme For the first I will vouch you the very words which I find in that notable case of the Dutchie where the question was whether the grants of King Ed. 6. for Dutchy lands should be avoyded in points of nonage The case as your Lordships know well is reported by Mr. Plowden as the generall resolution of all the Judges of England and the Kings learned Counsell Ruswell the Solicitour onely except there I find the said words Comment fol. 215. There is in the King not a body naturall alone nor a body politique alone but a body naturall and politique together ●●●pus corporatum in corpore naturali corpus naturale in corpore corporato The like I find in the great case of the Lord Barkeley set downe by the same Reporter Comment fol. 234. Though there be in the King two bodies and that those two bodies are conjoyned yet are they by no meanes confounded the one by the other Now then to see the mutuall and reciprocall entercourse as I may terme it or influence or communication of qualities that these bodies have one upon the other The body politique of the Crowne indueth the naturall person of the King with these perfections That the King in Law shall never be said to be within age that his blood shall never be corrupted and that if he were attainted before the very assumption of the Crown purgeth it That the K. shall not take but by matter of Record although he take in his naturall capacity as upon a guift in taile That his body in Law shall be said to be as it were immortall for there is no death of the King in Law but a demise as it is tearmed with many other the like Priviledges and differences from other naturall persons too long to rehearse the rather because the question laboureth not in that part But on the contrary part let us see what oporations the Kings naturall person hath upon his Crowne and body politique Of which the chiefest and greatest is that it causeth the Crowne to goe by descent which is a thing strange and contrary to the course of all Corporations which evermore take in succession and not by descent for no man can shew mee in all the Corporations of England of what nature soever vvhether they consist of one person or of many or whether they be Temporall or Ecclesiasticall any one takes to him and his heires but all to him and his successours And therefore here you may see what a weake course that is to put cases of Bishops and Parsons and the like and to apply them to the Crowne For the King takes to him and his heires in the manner of a naturall body and the word successours is but superfluous and where that is used that is ever duly placed after the words heires The King his heires and Successours Againe no man can deny but vxor filius sunt nomina naturae A Corporation can have no wife nor a Corporation can have no sonne how is it then that it is treason to compasse the death of the Queene or of the Prince There is no part of the body politique of the Crovvne in either of them but it is entirely in the King So likewise we find in the case of the Lord Barkeley the question was whether the Statute of 35. H. 8. for that part which concerned Queene Katherine Pars joynture were a publique act or no of which the Judges ought to take notice not being pleaded And judged a publique Act. So the like question came before your Lordship my Lord Chancellour in Serjeant Heales case whether the Statute of 11. of Ed. 3 concerning the intayling of the Dukedome of Cornewall to the Prince vvere a publique Act or no and ruled likewise a publique Act. Why no man can affirme but these be operations of Lavv proceeding from the dignity of the naturall person of the King for you shall never find that another Corporation vvhatsoever of a Bishop or Master of a Colledge or Major of London vvorketh any thing in Lavv upon the vvife or sonne of the Bishop or the Major And to conclude this point and vvithall to come neere to the case in question I will shew you where the naturall person of the King hath not onely an operation in the case of his wife and children but likewise in the case of his Subjects which is the very question in hand As for example I put this case