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A88103 Exceptions many and just against two injurious petitions exhibited to the Parliament· The one Iuly 16. The other Aug. 4. 1653. Both of them not only against tithes, but against all forced or constrained maintenance of ministers, examined and found many waies faulty against piety and justice, and as such now discovered, by Theophilus Philadelphus. Ley, John, 1583-1662. 1653 (1653) Wing L1878; Thomason E712_17; ESTC R202718 51,137 63

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be put to goe to Law as the Lender to sue the wicked borrower who payeth not againe Psal 37.21 He is the contentious person who will doe no wrong or will doe no right without suit not he that being necessitated to it flyeth to the Law or Law-makers for refuge and protection Besides as the provocation to that is not the Parsons but the Parishioners fault so it is the greater because he can have no fairer probably occasion for it And therefore it was the manner of a Religious * Capt. R.W. Captaine a true Cornelius of mine acquaintance when some of his Neighbours entreated him to goe with them to their Minister as a Mediator for composition of their Tithes to tell them there was no need of any mediation for this matter for the Parson neither will nor can doe you wrong unlesse by taking any part of your nine parts and if he will not compound with you at your rate give him the tenth in kind and so shall you be sure to give him no more then his due Ob. But when we have done what we can the Parliament will doe what they please * So said K. Iames in his Speech in the Starre Chamber An. 1616. p. 553. Operum in Fol. for as the old Treasurer Burleigh was wont to say he knew not what an Act of Parliament would not doe in England Ans Though they have power to doe what they will and so much is said of a King and somewhat more Where the word of a King is there is power and who may say unto him what doest thou Eccles 8.4 Yet we must hope in the exercise of the supreme Authority they will make their Justice and goodnesse as apparent unto us as their Power and Greatnesse Ob. We might hope so if there were not many thousands who solicite them against us as was noted of the former Petition subscribed with many thousands of hands Ans Though there be Thousands who being as opposite in their principles as new light and old darknesse like Herod and Pilate reconciled against Christ combine against us the one sort out of an erroneous antipathy to a standing fixed and Orthodox Ministry the other out of an impious contempt of the power of Godlinesse both out of an unconscionable concupiscence of having more then their owne yet if the case of Tithes were rightly stated the drift and scope of the alienation of them from the ministry generally nnderstood and a course taken to procure hands to a Petition for the continuance of them according to their antient Right and countenance would be shewed by them who are in Authority to such as subscribe it I doubt not but the greater number of the most true believing and Godly living Christians of all rankes and states throughout the whole Nation would appeare against the many millenary complaynants and every thousand of those worth ten thousand of these Ob. Yet it may be in the Committee concerning Tithes who thereafter as they represent the cause with favour or offence towards us will have a great influence upon the Votes and determinations of Parliament we have but a few friends and among them are many military men two Major Generalls eight Colonells and one Captaine who will be like to slight us because they have obtained so many Victorious successes by Sea and Land Ans First Though we know not of many friends we may have more then we know of and shall we trust have yet more when our case is throughly known and duly considered 2. For the Military men I can say somewhat upon mine owne certain knowledge at the Committee for Plundred Ministers Colon. Fleet-wood now commander in chiefe over Ireland I found more favour from one Colonell whose name I then knew not and I thought he had not known mee then of any yea or of all the rest one ancient friend excepted though at that time they met in an extraordinary number 3. They are too wise seeing though they have had many glorious victories their work is not wholly done and yet perhaps may be long in doing to slight the whole Body of the Ministry and those who adhere to their just Interest in this particular 4. That their advances against their enemies may not remove them from the solid basis of holy humility besides which they can find no sure or safe footing any where I shall make bold to mind them of what a zelot of theirs hath written of the Army in his Hist. Mr. I. S. in his Epist to all true Engl. men prope finem Anglia Rediviva Or Englands recovery But we would least of all be thought by this History of things done to fixe unconquerablenesse and unvariable successe upon this Army that were to dare providence to undoe us we know we are as soon broken as made up as soon flying as conquering we desire therefore friends not to belieue the Army shall doe more because it hath done so much and that it cannot be conquered because it hath conquered but that it shall be still victorious while God is in it and no longer And he will be in it and with it so much the longer as they keepe the closer to the Military rule of the Emperour Aurelianus as Flavius Vopiscus relates it * Si viris Tribunus esse imo si vis vivere manus militum confine nemo pullem alienum rapiat ovem nemo contingat uvam nullus anterat Segetem nemo deterat oleum salignum nemo exigat Annon suā coutentus sit De praeda hostis non de lacrymis provincialis habeat Flav. Vopis in Aureliano If thou wilt be a Tribune nay if thou wilt live containe thy Souldiers in their duty Let no man take so much as a sheepe or a chiken from another nor let him tread downe the Country mans corne or exact of him oyle or salt or wood but be content with his stipend and if he adde to it let it be by the spoyles of the Enemies not by the teares of the Provinciall Subjects Yet was this Emperour though so precisely in it but an Heathen would it not then seeme a prodigidesigne on s of injustice and Impiety in Christian Governors whether Civill or Military if they should make no scruple to spoyle all the Ministers of their own Nation of their due maintenance whence they are most antiently and most Lawfully possessed and that not for the present only but for perpetuity 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Rom. 3.31 And if that hitherto we have said albeit it seemeth very good and most just in our eyes though not in ours only should in theirs seeme otherwise who are to judge our cause and so their determinations should dash all our hopes into despaire of helpe from them we may yet comfort our selves if wee have done our endeavour to uphold the right of Religion in the maintenance of the Ministry for their poverty will breed contempt of the word of God and that contempt Atheisme For