written of the common law is reported hath beene in times passed presented and punished in leets and law-dayes in divers parts of the Realme by the name of Letherwhyte which is as the booke saith an ancient Saxon terme And the Lord of the Leet where it hath beene presented hath ever had a fine for the same offence By the statute of those that be borne beyond the seas it appeareth that the King hath cognizance 25. Ed 3. of some bastardy And now in most cases of bastardie if not in all by the statute of Eliz. the reputed father of a bastard borne is lyable to be punished at the discretion of the justices of peace Touching perjurie if a man lose his action by a false verdict in plea Perjurie if punishable temporally in some cases why not in all of land he shall have an attaint in the Kings Court to punish the perjurie and to reforme the falsitie And by divers statutes it appeareth that the Kings temporall Officers may punish perjurie committed in the Kings temporall Courts And though it be true that such perjury as hath risen upon causes reputed spirituall have beene in times past punished only by Ecclesiastical power and censures of the Church yet hereupon it followeth not that the perjurie it selfe is a meere spirituall and not a temporall crime or matter or that the same might not to be civily punished By a statute of Westminster 25. Edw. 3. it was accorded that the Vsurie King and his heires shall have the cognizance of the usurers dead and that the Ordinaries have cognizance of usurers on life to make compulsion by censures of the Church for sinne and to make restitution of the usuries taken against the lawes of holy Church And by another statute it is provided that usuries shall not turne against any being â—0 h. 3. â— 5. within age after the time of the death of his Ancestor untill his full age But the usurie with the principall debt which was before the death of his ancestor did remaine and turne against the heire And because all usurie being forbidden by the law of God is sinne and detestable it was enacted that all usurie lone and forbearing of money c. giving dayes c. shall be punished according to the forme of that Act. And that every such offender shall also bee punished and corrected according to the Ecclesiasticall lawes before that time made against usurie By all which statutes it seemeth that the cognizance and reformation of usurie by the lawes of the Realme pertaineth onely to the King unlesse the King by his Law permit the Church to correct the same by the censures of the Church as a sin committed against the holy law of God Touching heresies and schismes albeit the Bishops by their Episcopall and ordinarie spirituall power grounded upon Canon law or an evill custome have used by definitive sentence pronounced in their Consistories to condemn men for heretikes and schismatikes and heresies schismes are punishable by the kings laws afterward being condemned to deliver them to the secular power to suffer the paines of death as though the king being custos utriusque tabulae had not power by his kingly office to inquire of heresie to condemn an heretike and to put him to death unlesse he were first condemned and delivered into his hands by their spirituall power although this hath been I say the use in England yet by the statutes of Richard the second and Henry the fifth it was lawfull for the Kings Judges and Justices to enquire of heresies and Lollards in Leets Sheriffs 25. h. 5. c. 14. turnes and in Law dayes and also in Sessions of the peace Yea the King by the common law of the Realme revived by an act of Parliament which before the Statute of Henry the fourth was altered may pardon a man condemned for heresie yea and if it should come to passe that any heresies or schismes should arise in the Church of England the king by the Lawes of the Realme and by his Supreme and 1 Eliz c. 1. Soveraigne power with his parliament may correct redresse and reforme all such defaults and enormities Yea further the king and his 1 Eliz. c. 1. parliament with consent of the Clergie in their Convocation hath power to determine what is heresie and what is not heresie If then it might please the king to have it enacted by parliament that they which opiniatively and obstinately hold defend and publish any opinions which according to an Act of Parliament already made have beene or may be ordered or adjudged to bee heresies should bee heretikes If it please the King heretikes may be adjudged felons and heresies felonies and felons and their heresies to be felonies and that the same heretiks and felons for the same their heresies and felonies being arraigned convicted and adjudged by the course of the common law as other felons are should for the same their heresies and felonies suffer the paines of death there is no doubt but the King by vertue of his Soveraigne and Regall Lawes might powerfully enough reforme heresies without any such ceremoniall forme papall observance or superstitious solemnitie as by the order of the Canon Law pretended to bee still in force have beene accustomed And as these offences before mentioned bee punishable partly by temporall and partly by Ecclesiasticall authoritie so drunkennesse absence from divine service and prayer fighting quarrelling and brawling in Church and Churchyard defamatorie words and libels violent laying on oâ— hands upon a Clarke c. may not onely bee handled and punished in a court ecclesiasticall but they may also be handled and punished by the King in his temporall courts By all which it is evident that the Clergie hath had the correction of these crimes rather by a The cognizance of all crimes as well as of some crimes â—â— the law of God belong to the King custome and by sufferance of Princes than for that they be meere spirituall or that they had authoritie by the immediate law of God And if all these as well as some of these crimes by sufferance of Princes and by a custome may be handled and punished spiritually then also if it please the King may all these as well as some of these crimes without a custome be handled and punished temporally For by custome and sufferance only some of these crimes be exempted from the cognizance of the King and therefore by the immediate law of God the cognizance as well of all as of some oâ— these crimes properly appertaineth unto the King And then the judgement of those men who defend judgements of adulterie slander c. to be more temporall and by the temporall Magistrate only to be dealt in seemeth every way to be a sincere and sound judgment Howbeit they doe not hereby intend that the party offending in any of these things and by the Kings law punishable should therefore wholly bee exempted and freed
against us that we which urge the same holy law for the bringing in of the discipline by pastors and elders should notwithstanding contrary to the same law intend the leaving out or altering any one of the three estates But which of the three estates was it that he meant should bee left out I trow there is none of the state of prelacie so ill advised as to take upon him the proof of this position viz. That the Lords spiritual The state of the prelacie is not one of the three estates in parliament by themselves alone doe make one of the three estates or that the statutes of England to this day have stood by their authorities as by the authoritie of those who alone by themselvs are to be accompted one of the three estates For if that were so how much more then might the great Peeres Nobles and temporall Lords challenge to make by themselvs an other estate And without contradiction to this day the commons summoned by the kings writ have ever been reckoned a third estate Now then if statutes have hitherto stood by authoritie of the Lords spirituall as of the first estate by the authoritie of the Lords temporall as of the second estate and by authoritie of the commons as of the third estate I would gladly be resolved what accompt the Admonitor made of the Kings estate It had not beene liegnes nor loyaltie I am sure howsoever hee spake much of the Lords spiritualls dutie and fidelitie in the execution of our late Queenes lawes to have set her Royall person authoritie and state behind the lobbie at the Parliament doore Either the kings Royall person then as not comprised within the compasse and circumcription of the three estates by his meaning which had beene but a very bad meaning must be thought to have beene hitherto secluded from authorizing the statute lawes made in Parliament Or els it is a most cleare case that the Lords spirituall themselves alone do not make any one of the three estates And what matter then of more weight may it happily seeme to be to alter the authoritie of the Lords spirituall and to leave them out of the Parliament when as notwithstanding they being left out the statutes of England may remaine and continue by authoritie of the three estates And it were not amisse for the Lords spirituall to consider that the bodie and state of the weale publike both now is and ever hath beene a perfect entire and complete bodie and State without the bodie and state of Prelacie and that the King and Nobles and Commons of the Realme without Prelates Bishops or Clerkes doe make up all the members and parts of the bodie and of the state and may therefore ordaine promulg and execute all manner of lawes without any consent Anno 36. h. 8. fo 51. h Anno m. j. fo 93. â— approbation or authoritie yeelded unto the same by the Bishops spirituall or any of the Clergie And thus much our Divines Histories and Lawes do justifie Sir Iames Dier Lord chiefe Justice of the Common pleas in his reports telleth us that the state and bodie of a Parliament in England consisteth first of the King as of the head and chiefe part of the bodie secondly of the Lords as principall members and lastly of the Commons as inferiour members of that bodie By a statute of provisoes it appeareth That the holy Church of 25. Ed. 3. holy church founded in the state of prelacie by the King England was founded into the state of prelacie within the Realm of England by the grand father of King Edward the third and his progenitors and the Earles Barons and other Nobles of the Realme and their Ancestors for them to informe the people of the law of God and to make hospitalities and almes and other workes of charitie in These uses are changed to the keeping of great horses great troopes of idlers wiâ—h long haire and great chaines of gold 6 Eliz. c. 1. The King bound to do lawes made without assent of prelates to bee kept as lawes of the realmes the places where the Churches were founded From whence it followeth First that the Archbishops and Bishops only and alone doe not make of themselves any state of prelacie but that the whole holy Church of England was founded into a state of Prelacie Secondly it is plaine that the Kings of England before they and the Earles Barons and other Nobles and great men had founded the holy Church of England into a state of Prelacie ought and were bounden by the accord of their people in their Parliaments to reforme and correct whatsoever was offencive to the lawes and rights of the crowne and to make remedie and law in avoiding the mischiefes dammages oppressions and grievances of their people yea and that the Kings were bound by their oathes to doe the same lawes so made to bee kept as lawes of the Realm though that thorough sufferance and negligence any thing should at any time be attempted to the contrary For whereas before the statute of Caerlile the Bishop of Rome had usurped the Seignories of such possessions and benefices as whereof the Kings of the Realme Earles Barons and other Nobles as Lords and Avowes ought to have the custodie presentments and collations King Edward the first by assent of the Earles Barons and other Nobles and of all the communaltie at their instances and requests und without mention of any assent of the state of prelacie in the said Parliament holden at Caerlile ordained that the oppressions grievances and dammage sustained by the Bishop of Romes usurpation should not from thenceforth be suffered in any manner And forasmuch as the grievances and mischiefes mentioned in the said Act of Caerlile did afterward in the time of King Edward the third daily abound to greater dammage and destruction of the Realm more than ever before and that by procurement of Clerks and purchasers of grace from Rome 31 Ed. 5 sta of â—â—ering the said King Edward the third by assent and accord of all the great men and commons of this Realme and without mention of any assent of Prelates or Lords spirituall having regard of the said Act of Caerlile and to the causes conteyned in the same to the honour of God and profit of the Church of England and of all this Realme ordained and established that the free elections of Archbishops Bishops and all other dignities and benefices elective in England should hould from thenceforth in the manner as they were granted by the Kings progenitors and founded by the ancestors of other Lords And in divers other statutes made by King Edward the third it is said that our soveraigne Lord the King by the assent of the great men and all the Commons hath ordained remedie c. That it was accorded by our Soveraigne Lord the King the great men and all the commons 36 Ed. 3. c. 6 8 Ed. 3. 3. statute of provisours
bishops and societie against the right and freedome of the law of God against the principles of humane fellowships against that which was in the begining and against that which the Apostles left in the Churches by colour of lawes brought into the Church by the cursings and fightings of the late Romane Bishops they would not henceforth barre and seclude the Kings Christian and faithfull people from giving their consents unto their pastours Yea and we further beseech their Lordships that are schollers unto the Apostles and as servants unto the old way of reason of nature of the law of God of the equitie of Christ and of humane societie they would hereafter imbrace that way which was from the beginning which is the old way and the best way and not any longer persist in a cursed and quarrelling way which is the new way and the worst way But if the Lords spirituall of their own accord shal not readily vouclsafe to yeeld unto us this our right at our intreatie then for my part I will briefly shew mine opinion what were expedient for the A supplieation to the king by the Lords and commons for the restitution of their right in the choice of their pastors Lords and commons in open parliament dutifully to pray and to supplicate at the Kings Majesties hand Namely At the humble petitions and supplications of all his Lords temporall and commons in Parliament assembled his majestie would bee well pleased to give his Royall assent to an act to be intituled An act for the restitution of the ancient right and freedome which the people of God in the old Churches had and which the people of England ought to have in to or about the election of their Pastours and abolishing all papal power repugnant to the same For if as it is plainly confessed the people of all Churches have right and freedome by the law of God by the equitie of Christ by the grounds of reason and nature by the principles of humane fellowships and by that which was from the beginning to elect their pastours and if also the same right and freedome being left to the old Churches and especially to the Church at Ierusalem by the Apostles have beene taken away by the cursings and fightings of the late Bishops of Rome then cannot the people without violation of those lawes rules and grounds by any Episcopall power be any more excluded from their said right and freedome than could or might the ancient jurisdiction of the Crowne of England have beene still usurped by the pope from the Kings of England ADMONITION But alas the common people of England thorough affection and want of right judgement are more easily wrought by ambitious persons to give their consâ—nt to unworthy men as may appeare in all those officâ—s of gaine or dignitie that at this day remaine in the choise of the multitude ASSERTION The Admonitor in one place of his admonition telleth us that he must not put all that he thinketh in writing and yet he writeth in this place that thing which might far better have been utterly unthought than once written for could he thinke to win the common people of England to a continuall good liking of high and stately prelacie by upbraiding and charging them to their faces in a book dedicated unto them with affection and wanting of right judgement Was this the way to procure grace favour and benevolence at their hands And albeit this slander deserved rather to have beene censured by the Commons in Parliament than by confutation to have beene answered yet for the better clearing of the right judgement of the common people giving their consents to most worthy men in all offices of gaine or dignitie remaining in their hands I thinke it necessarie to shew the indignitie of this contumelie There be I confesse in London Yorke Lincoln Bristow Exceter Norwich Coventry and other principall Cities and townes corporate Majors Sheriffes Stewards Recorders Bailiffes Chamberlains Bridge-masters Clerkes Swordbearers Knights Burgesses and such like offices some of dignitie some of gaine but that the officers of these or any other places whether of dignitie or gaine be chosen by the multitude of those places is utterly untrue for onely according to their ancient customes priviledges and Charters by the chief Citizens Townsmen and Borough-masters are those officers chosen The number also of which Electors in all places is not alike In London the Aldermen choose the Lord Major In other Cities and Townes sometimes eight and forty sometimes fourteene sometimes twelve sometimes only such as have borne office as Majors Sheriffes and Bailiffs in the same places nominate and elect their new Major Sheriffs and Bailiffes But that the Aldermen principall Towns-men Borough-masters and men having born chief offices in those cities towns and boroughs have easily been wrought by ambitious persons to give their consents unto unworthy men though it have pleased the Ll. Bb. with seene and allowed to have spred and published this saying yet that the same saying is wholly unworthy of any credit to bee given unto it or to bee regarded of any wise and indifferent man let the sober and peaceable elections made of the worthies of the land hereafter mentioned be witnesses The officers in Cities and townes corporate chosen with out contention and ambitious working of unworthy men And to leave to speake of the election of the Lord Major of the Citie of London Sheriffs Aldermen Wardens of companies Chamberlains bridge-masters and other annuall officers of honour and dignitie let us consider whether the Citizens of London have beene wrought by ambitious persons to choose M. Wilbraham M. Onslie M. Bromley to be their Recorders â—ll three afterward the Queenes solicitors and M. Bromly Lord Chancellor of England and let us consider whether the same Citizens as men of affection and want of right judgement did elect to be Recorders of the same Citie M. Serjeant Fleetwood Master Serjeant Flemming Master Serjeant Drue and how Master Crooke a man wise learned and religious and a Counseller and justicer within the principâ—litie of Wales The Recorder of the towne of Bedford is the right honourable the Lord S. Iohns of Bletsoe The Recorder of Bristoll was a long time Master Poppam now Lord chief Justice of England The Recorder of Northampton before he came to be Judge in the Kings bench was Master Serjeant Yelverton a favouter of the truth and an upright Justicer The Recorder of Warnick was Master Serjeant Puckering afterward Lord keeper of the great seale And of the same towne the Recorder now is a worthy Knight descended from a noble house Sir Foulke Grevile The Recorder of Coventrie is Sir Iohn Harrington Knight a man zealous for the true feare of God The Recorder of Chichester was M. Serjeant Lewkner now chiefe Justice in the principalitâ—e of Wales The Recorder of Norwich was Master Cooke the Kings Atturney generall And who soever shall enquire after the names and after the manner of election
trouble and expence yea and with greater priviledge than he did before Thus therefore touching the office and person of the King the duetie of the Presbyterie and people the right of the Patron and the person of the Minister to be ordained thus and thus we say and thus and thus as we think may our sayings well stand with lawes setled By an act primo Eliz. c. 1. the King hath full power and authoritie by Letters Patents under the Great Seale of England when and as often as need shall require as he shall thinke meete and convenient and for such and so long time as shall please his Highnesse to assigne name and authorize such person or persons being naturall borne subjects as his Majestie shall thinke meet to exercise use occupie and execute under his Highnesse all manner of jurisdictions priviledges and preheminences in any wise touching or concerning any Spirituall or Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction within this Realme of England Againe by the booke of ordeyning Bishops Priests and Deacons it is prescribed that the Bishops with their The Bb. and Priests must lay on their hands Priests shall lay their hands severally upon the heads of every one that receiveth Orders that every one to be made a Minister must be of vertuous conversation and without crime sufficiently instructed in the holy Scriptures a man meet to exercise his ministerie duely that he must be called tried and examined that he must be presented by the Archdeacon and be made openly in the face of the Church with prayer to God and exhortation to the people And in a statute made 21. of King Hen. 8. it is affirmed That a Bishop The Bishops must use six Chapleins at giving of orders must have sixe Chaplaines at giving of orders Besides by an ancient and lowable custome the Parishes and Parish Churches within every Archdeaconrie remaine unto this day distributed into certaine Deanries the Parson or Vicar of the auncientest Church commonly called the Mother Church of the Deanrie unlesse by Every Archdeacon divided into Deanries consent some other be chosen by the Ministers themselves hath the first place and is the chiefe director and moderator of whatsoever things are propounded in their Synodall meeting which Minister also is called Archipresbyter or Decanus curalis according to the appellation of the chief Minister of the mother or chief Church of that Diocesse who is called Archipresbiter or Decanus cathedralis so that unto this day these Ministers meeting at the Archdeacons visitations once in a yeere at the least there remaineth in the in the Church of England a certaine image or shadow of the true ancient and Apostolicall conference and meetings Wherefore from these lawes and from this ancient manner of the meetings of Ministers and of having one principal and chief Moderator amongst them according to the Apostolicall practice and usage of the primitive Church thus already setled in the Church of England wee humbly leave it to be considered by the Kings Majestie First whether it were not meet and convenient for his Highnes by his letters patentes under the great Seale of England to assigne A Minister to be ordained by the Bishops and a â—ompany of Ministeâ—s at the Kings commandement name and authorize the Bishops and six or moe Ministers within every Deanerie continually resiant upon their benefices and diligently teaching in their charge to use and execute all manner of jurisdiction priviledge and preheminence concerning any spirituall ordination election or institution of Ministers to be placed in the Parochiall Churches or other places with cure of soules within Secondly when any Parish Church or other place with cure of soules shall be voide whether it were not meet and convenient that the auncients and chiefe Fathers of that place within a time to be limited for that purpose should intimate the same vacancie unto Vacancie of a benefice to be intimated tâ— the Kingâ— office the office of the Kings civill Officer appointed for that Shire or Diocesse to the end the same Officer by authoritie from the King might command in the Kings name the Bishop and other Ministers to elect and ordaine and the people of the same place to approve and allow of some able and godly person to succeede in the Church Thirdly the Patrone if the same be a common and lay person A Lay patrone insteed of varying his Clerk may present two Clerks at one time having now libertie to vary his Clerk if he be â—ound unable whether it were not meet and convenient to avoide all manner of varying that within the time perâ—â—xed hee should nominate at one time two Clerks to bee taken out of the Uniâ—ersities or other Schooles and Nurseries of the Prophets and that the same nomination be made unto the Bishop and the said sixe Ministers to the end that both the Clerkes being tried and examined by them the abler of the two might be preferred to that charge And of this manner of presenting two Clerkes by the Patrone we have a president not much unlike in the statute for nomination of Suffraganes By which act every Archbishop and Bishop desiring to have a Suffragane hath libertie to name and present unto the King two honest and discreet Spirituall Persons c. that the King may give to one such of the said two Spirituall Persons as shall please his Majestie the title name stile and dignitie of a Suffragane Fourthly the Bishops and Presbyters having thus upon triall and A Minister found able for gifâ—s is to be sent to the parish that his life may be examined and to have the consent of the people examination found one of the Patrones Clerks to be a fit and able man to take upon him the executioÌ„ of the Ministery in that Church whether it were not then meet and convenient that by them he should forthwith be sent to the same Church as well to acquaint the people with their judgement and approbation of his gifts and abilitie to teach as also that for a time he should converse and abide amongst them to the end his life manners and behaviour might be seen into and enquired after by their carefull endeavours Fiftly the people within a time to be perfixed not making and proving before the Magistrate any just exception against his life A man allowed for gifts and Conversation is to be ordained with prayer fasting and laying on of hands A Minister to be inducted into thâ— Church bâ— the Kinâ—â— Writ manners and conversations whether it were not then meete and convenient that the Bishop with sixe â—ther Ministers or moe of the same Deanrie authorized by the King as aforesaid under some paine and within a certaine time should be bound in the presence of the Elders and people and in the same Church with fasting prayer and laying on of hands to ordaine and dedicate him to the Ministerie and Pastorall charge of that Church Lastly these things being thus finished whether it were not
extraordinary alterations it is not only requisite to abolish all bad opinions out of the mindes of those that know not the drift of the enterprisers but it is also necessary that the defence of such alterations be made forcible against the opposition of all gainesayers we will descend to the particulars and joyne issue with the Admonitor And upon all allegations exceptions witnesses and records to bee made sworne examined and produced out of the holy Scriptures and Lawes of the Land already setled on the behalfe of our cause before our Soveraigne Lord the King his Nobles and Commons in Parliament we shall submit our selves and our cause to the Kings Royall and most Christian judgement In the meane time we averre that not only the former clause of this admonitory bill but that all other clauses following in the same bill for the invaliditie insufficiency indignitie and nullitie of them are to bee throwne out and dismissed from the Kings Court especially for that the particulars opened by the Admonitor can not serve for any reasonable warning to induce the common people to rely themselves upon his I am of opinion to the which we plead at barre as followeth ADMONITION First saith he the whole State of the Lawes of the Realme will be Page 77 altered For the Canon Law must bâ— utterly taken away with all Offices to the same belonging which to supply with other Lawes and functions without many inconveniences would bee very hard the use and studie of the civill Law will bee utterly overthrowne ASSERTION When by a common acceptance and use of speech these words whole State of the Lawes of the Realme are understood of the Common and statute lawes of the Realme that is to say of the Kings temporall Canon and civill Lawes no part of the Laws of the Realme but only by sufferance lawes and not of Canon or Civill lawes it cannot follow that the whole state of the Lawes of the Realme should be altered though the Canon and Civill Lawes with all offices to the same belonging should be utterly taken away and be wholly overthrown For no more could the Admonitor prove the Canon or Civill Law at any time heretofore to have beene any part of the Lawes of this Realme otherwise than only by ` a 25. H. 8. C. 21. in the preamble sufferance of our Kings acceptance long use and custome of our people than can any man prove a parsley-bed a rosemary-twigge or an ivie-branch to be any part of the scite of the Castle of Farnham And therefore he might aswell have concluded thus the whole scite of the Castle of Farnham will be transposed for the Boxetrees the Heythorne Arbours and the Quick-set hedges planted within the Castle-garden must bee removed and cast away which were but a proofe provelesse and a reason reasonlesse If then by the abrogation of the Canon or Civill Law scarce any one part of the lawes of this Realme should be changed what reason have we to thinke that the whole state of the lawes of the Realme must be altered Besides to conclude the whole by an argument drawne ab enumeratione partium and yet not to number the tenth part of such parts as were to bee numbred is I am sure neither good logick nor good law Moreover if all the Canon-law I mean all the Papall and forraigne Canon Law devised and ordeined at Rome or elsewhere without the Realm and consequently all the Offices and functions to the same belonging bee already utterly taken away what hope of reward can Civilians expect from the use of such things as are within the compasse of that law or of what efficacy is this argument to prove an alteration of any part of the lawes of this Realme or that the studie of the Civill Law should be utterly overthrowne For the whole state of the Lawes properly called the Lawes of the Realme hath stood and continued many years since the same Papall and Canon Law was abolished An imbasement for civilians to have preferment by offices of the Canon law The Canon law be abolished out of the realme and ought not to be used And as touching the Civilians for them to seeke after preferments by Offices and functions of the Canon Law is an embasement of their honourable profession especially since farre greater rewards might very easily bee provided for them if once they would put to their helping hands for the only establishment and practice of the Civill Law in the principall causes now handled by them in the Courts called Ecclesiasticall But how may it be proved that the Papall and forraign Canon law is already taken away and ought not to bee used in England For my part I heartily wish that some learned men in the Common Law would vouchsafe to shew unto the King and Parliament their cleare knowledge in this point In the meane season I shall not be negligent to gather and set downe what in mine understanding the statute-Statute-Law hath determined thereof By the statute of submission 25. Hen. 8. revived 1 Eliz. as the very words and letter of the petition and submission of the Clergy of the body of the law and of the provisoes doe import the very true meaning and intent of the King and Parliament is evident and apparent to be thus as followeth and none other viz. That such Canons Constitutions and Ordinances Synodall or Provinciall which before that time were devised and ordained or which from thence orth should bee devised or ordained by the Clergie of the Realme being not contrariant or repugnant c. should only and alonely be authorised and to be put in ure and execution And consequently that all Canons Constitutions and Ordinances Papall and made by forraigne power without the Realm should wholly and utterly be abrogated adnulled abolished and made of no value The words touching the petition and submission mentioned in that Statute in substance are these Where the Kings humble and obedient subjects the Clergie c. have submitted themselves and promised in verbo Sacerdotii that they will never from henceforth presume No Canons provinciall or other to bee put in ure therefore no papall canons in force to attempt alledge claime or put in ure any Canons Constitutions Ordinances provinciall or other or enact promulge or execute any new Canons c. And where also divers Constitutions Ordinances and Canons Provinciall or Synodall which heretofore have beene enacted and be thought not only to bee much prejudiciall to the Kings prerogative Royall c. the Clergie hath most humbly besought Canons provinciall heretofore enacted being prejudiciall are to be abrogated the Kings Highnesse that the said Constitutions and Canons may be committed to the examination and judgement of his Highnesse and of two and thirty persons of his subjects c. and that such of the said Canons and Constitutions as shall bee thought and determined by the said 32. persons or the more part of them worthy to be abrogated
absolutely and as really is revested in the person of the Queene as is the said spirituall authoritie Therefore as all spirituall Officers for the execution of the said spirituall power must have their authoritie derived unto them from the person of the Queene under the great Seale so likewise must all temporall officers for the execution of their temporall offices have the like commission The consequence of which enthimeme followeth not though the antecedent be true For although as well all temporall as all the said spirituall authoritie improperly so called was really and absolutely in the person of the Queene yet hereupon it followeth not that by one and the selfe same meanes alone and namely by a commission under the great Seale all temporall and the said spirituall power in every part and branch thereof should be drawne alike from the Queenes person For there be divers and sundry meanes to derive temporall authority wheras there seemeth to be but one only means to derive the said spirituall authoritie and then marke the substance of the authors argument Some temporall Officers as Stewards of Leets Constables and sundry other Officers must not draw their temporall authoritie from the Queene by a Commission under the great Seale Therefore no spirituall Officers as Archbishops Bishops Archdâ—acons and sede vacante Deanes and Chapters must draw any of their spirituall authoritie from the Queen by a Commission c. Which argument drawne from a particular affirmative unto a generall negative what weaknesse it hath every young Logician can discerne And as for Stewards of Leets though they have no Commission Though all temporall officers draw not their power from the King by the great seale yet by one meanes or other withdraw it from the King under the great Seale yet for the execution of their Stewardships they have a Commission under the Seale of the Exchequer Constables Decennary or Tythingmen and Thirdboroughs have their authorities derived unto them from the Kings person by the very originall and institution of their offices Sheriffs of Countries Coroners Escheators and Uerderors have their offices and their authorities warranted unto them by the Kings writs out of the Chancerie But it was not the minde of the Law-makers saith the Author that the Ordinaries by a commission under the great Seale should draw their said spirituall power from the Queen What the mindes of the Law-makers were touching this point it mattereth little or nothing at all Neither is it to purpose whether a commission under the great seale be necessarily required or not required by vertue of that statute 1 Eliz. c. 1. to warrant the said spirituall power unto Ordinaries Only it sufficeth that the Queen having all power improperly called spiritual invested in her Royall person and being really and actually seised of all the said supreme spirituall authoritie could not have any part of the same spirituall power drawne from her but by some one lawfull and ordinarie meanes or other For if this rule be true in every common person quod meum est sine mea voluntate à me auferri non potest how much more doth the same rule hold in the Royall prerogatives rights priviledges dignities and supremities of a King wherfore to say that all supreme and ordinarie power improperly called spirituall was really and actually inherent in the Royall person of the Queen and to say also that some of the same inferiour and ordinarie power not derived from the Queen was neverthelesse in the persons of inferiour ordinaries is as much to say that some branches of a tree may receive nourishment from elsewhere than from the root that some members of the bodie are not guided by the head and that some streames flow not from their fountaines And now to conclude this part against the Canon Law and their Offices and functions thereof I dispute thus The forraign and papall canon law with all the accessories dependances offices and functions thereof is utterly abolished out of the Realme Therefore the same law is no part of the lawes of the Realm and therefore also it is evident that there will not follow any alteration of the Lawes of the Realme by the taking of it away Which Canon Law also with other lawes and functions how easily the same without any inconveniences may bee supplied shall God willing be presently made apparant if first we shall answer to that challenge which the state of Prelacie may seeme to make for the continuance of their Lordly primacie out of the words of the great Challenge for Lordly primacy out of the great Charter answered Charter Concerning which challenge namely that by the great Charter Lordly Archiepiscopall and Episcopall primacie or jurisdiction belonging to the state of Prelacie is belonging unto them I demand unto what Church this great Charter was granted And whether it were not granted unto the Church of God in England The words of the Charter are these Concessimus Deo hâ—c praesenti Mag. Charta c. 1. Charta nostra confirmavimus pro nobis haeredibus nostris in perpetuum quod Ecclesia Anglicana libera sit habeat omnia jura sua integra libertates suas illaesas We have granted unto God and by this our present writing have confirmed for us and for our heires for ever that the Church of England be free and that she have all her rights and liberties whole and unhurt Now by this Charter if the same bee construed aright there is provision made first that such honour and worship be yeelded by the King and his subjects his and their successors and posteritie unto God as truly and indeed belongeth unto him Secondly that not only such rights and liberties as the King and his progenitors but also that such as God had endowed the Church of England with should inviolably be preserved And in very deed to speake truly and properly such rights and liberties only are to be called the rights and liberties of the Church of England which God himselfe hath given by his Law unto his universall Church and not which the Kings of England by their Charter have bequeathed to the particular Church of England When therefore question is made that by the great Charter the Kings of England are bound to maintaine the rights and liberties of the Church of England wee are to enquire and search what rights and liberties God in his holy word hath granted unto his universall Church and so by consequence unto the Church of England one part of the Catholike Church And this questionlesse was the cause that moved the victorious Prince Henry the eight so effectually and powerfully to bend himselfe against the Popes supremacie usurped that time over the Church of England For saith the King we will with hazard of our life and losse of our Crowne uphold and defend in our Realmes whatsoever wee shall know to be the will of God The Church of God then in England not being free nay having her rights and liberties
according to the great Charter whole and unhurt but being in bondage and servitude to the Sea of Rome contrary to the Law of God the King judged it to stand highly with his honour and with his oath according to the measure of knowledge which then was given unto him to reforme redresse and amend the abuses of the same Sea If then it might please our gracious Soveraigne Lord King Iames that now is treading in the Godly steps of his renowned great Vncle to vouchsafe an abolishment of all lordly primacie executed by Archiepiscopall and Episcopall authoritie over the Ministers of Christ His Highnesse in so doing could no more rightly bee charged with the violation of the great Charter than might King Henry the eight with the banishment of the Popes supremacie or than our late Soveraigne Ladie the Queene could be justly burthened with the breach of her oath by the establishment of the Gospell Nay if the Kings of England by reason of their oath had beene so straightly tyed to the words of the great Charter that they might not in any sort have disannulled any supposed rights and liberties of the Church then used and confirmed by the great Charter unto the Church that then was supposed to be the Church of God in England then belike King Henry the eighth might be attainted to have gone against the great Charter and against his oath when by the overthrow of Abbies and Monasteries he tooke away the rights and liberties of the Abbots and Priors For by expresse words of the great Charter Abbots and Priors had as ample and as large a Patent for their rights and liberties as our Archbb. and Bishops can at this day challenge for their primacies If then the rights and liberties of the one as being against the law of God be duly and lawfully taken away notwithstanding any matter clause or sentence contained in the great Charter the other have but little reason by colour of the great Charter to stand upon their pantofles and to contend for their painted sheathes For this is a rule and maxime in all good lawes that in omni juramento semper excipitur authoritas majoris unlesse then they bee able to justifie by the holy Scriptures that such rights and liberties as they pretend for their spirituall primacie over the Ministers of Christ to be granted unto them by the great Chaâ—ter bee in deed and truth likewise confirmed unto them by the holy Law of God I suppose the Kings Highnesse as a successor to K. Henry the third and as a most just inheritour to thâ— Crown of England by the words of the great Charter and by his oath if once the same wer taken to be bound utterly to abolish all Lordly primacie as hitherto upheld and defended partly by ignorance and partly by an unreasonable and evill custome ADMONITION The use and studâ—e of the Civill Law will be utterly overthrown for the Civilians in this Realme live not by the use of the Civill law but by the Offices of the Canon Law and such things as are within the compasse thereof And if you take those offices and functions away and those matters wherein they deale in the Canon Law you must needs take away the hope of reward and by that meanes their whole studie ASSERTION This collection dependeth upon his former Reason and is borrowed to prove a necessarie continuance of Canon Law and concludeth in effect thus The taking away of the reward and maintainance of Civilians will be the overthrow of the use and studie of the civill law But the taking away of the Canon Law the offices and functions thereof and such things as are within the compasse of the same will bee the taking away of the reward and maintainance of Civilians Therefore the taking away of the Canon Law will be the overthrow of the use and studie of the Civill Law But we deny the assumption and affirme that Civilians might have The maintenance of Civilians dependeth not upon the functions of the Canon law farre better reward and maintenance than now they have if the offices and functions of the Canon Law and such things as are contained within the same were simply and absolutely taken away And further we say if there were none other use nor end of the studie of the Civill Law than hope of reward and maintenance by some office and function of the Canon Law that then Civilians should in vaine seeke for knowledge in the Civill Law because without the knowledge thereof and by the onely knowledge of such things as are within the Compasse of the Canon Law they might reape that reward and maintainance Nay sithence by experience we have known that some who never unclasped the institutions of Iustinian out of the same to learne the definition of Civill Justice have beene and yet are authorized to exercise the offices and functions of the Canon Law how should the studie of the civill law be furthered by these offices and functions when as without any knowledge of the civill law these offices and functions have beene and yet are daily undertaken and executed to the full And what man then if there were none other reward for Civilians would ten or twelve yeares together beat his braine and trouble his wits in the studie of the Civill Law when every silly Canonist might bee able and learned enough to sit in the Bishops throne and to be judge in his Consistorie Besides if the Admonitor speake sooth viz. that Civilians in this Realm live not by the use of the civill Law to what end then should he feare an overthrow of the studie thereof For if there be no use of it in this Realme for the maintenance of this life to what use then should men studie the same in this Realme As for the use of it among strangers and forraigne nations without the Realme the same as I suppose is no greater than such as 3. or 4. Civilians may be able well enough fully to deliver the law touching all matters of controversie that may grow to question during the whole space of a Kings raigne If no man lived in this Realme by the trade of brewing Beere but that all Brewers did live by the trade of Brewing Ale what should we need to feare the decay of â—eere-brewers or what use were there of them in like sort if men live only by the use offices and functions of the Canon Law and that men live not as he saith by the use of the Civill law within the Realme what folly were it to studie the one whereas without the knowledge thereof he might live by the other And therefore it seemeth that the Admonitor by his owne weapon as much as in him lay hath given the whole studie of the Civill Law a most desperate and deadly wound And to the end we may understand what reward and maintenance Civilians by the Offices and functions of the Canon do receive yearly for their service and attendance in
Seniour or Deacon Therefore much lesse shall every Parish be burdened to find a company of Seniours c Where the Admonitor complaineth that many parishes are not Tolerable and intolerable Ministers able to finde one tolerable Minister we would gladly learne by what brand tolerable Ministers are knowne from intolerable Ministers according as the Lords spirituall judge or judge not of tolerable and untolerable Ministers For if all reading Ministers as needes with them they must bee or else why doe they tolerate them bee tolerable Ministers what a vaine and idle distinction hath hee coyned touching the scarcitie of maintenance for tolerable Ministers Considering all Ministers by intendment of law bee able to reade and considering also a very small maintenance is esteemed to bee a tolerable maintenance for reading Ministers For else why doe the great Bishops in their great Churches of Commendams and the rich Doctors in their rich Churches of non residencies make so small allowances to their reading and stipendarie Curates And where then is that parish in England that is not able to maintaine a tolerable Minister ADMONITION The next Argument that the people might not choose their Pastours Pag. 78. Elders and Deacons as is required is drawne partly from a feare that the same will be a matter of schisme discord and dâ—ssenâ—ion in many places partly from affection and want of right judgement of the people partly from the unrulinesse of the Parishes and partly from the broyle and trouble which may follow ASSERTION Vnto this objection if I should answer nothing at all but only should The objection of feare c. answered deny that any feare or any other inconvenience at all pretended in this place is to be feared to ensue my simple negation were more to be tolerated than his simple affirmation for by the canon Law non inficienti sed ponenti incumbit onus probandi And yet because Doct. in â—si cui de prebâ—â—â— the Lord hath spoken unto Iosua and in him unto us all that wee should not feare nor be discouraged to observe and to doe all that is written in the law for then sâ—ith the Lord shalt thou make thy way prosperous and then shalt thou have good successe therefore in the word of the Lord I say that none of all this feare broyle trouble or turmoyle is to be feared at all Nay that it is most assuredly and without all doubt to be hoped and looked for that he would so blesse the attempt of putting this order in execution as that the peoples approbation and allowance of their Ministers should be a matter of all peace quietnesse unitie concord good successe and prosperitie to the whole Church of God in England For what an heathenish incredulitie were it for us to reply upon the erroneous conceit of a timorous and suspicious fancy that feare and I wot not what unrulinesse and unquietnesse shall follow when wee receiving the lawes of peace from the Prince of peace have his most stable truth that his peace shall rest upon us and that all feare and evill successe shall cease and vanish away No busie headed body therefore shall be able to leade any man away to disquiet either Church or common wealth otherwise than as the Church in all ages by the malice of Satan and his instruments hath evermore beene disquieted if once the holy law of the Gospell touching this point were observed and put in ure And if it be feared that the choice to be made by the people of God and which is allowed unto them by the holy laws of God would prove to be a matter of schisme discord and dissention how much more reason have we to feare that the fiâ—e of schisme discord and dissention being blowen already should not breake out and fame among us if still one man alone be suffered to thrust upon the people of God not tolerable Ministers according to Gods heart but intolerable Ministers according to mans tradition The Admonitor hath insinuated unto us often in his Admonition that it is dangerous to innovate And so I say too unlesse there be evident â—â—de constitu prim L. 2. utilitie of innovation For saith the Emperour in rebus novis constituendis evidens esse utilitas debet ut ab eo jure recedatur quod diu aequum visum est But is it not as perillous yea sometimes much more perillous not to innovate for proof whereof it shall suffice to take witnesse of our owne times and of our owne experiences It seemed equall a long time and for many yeares that the Sacrifice of the Masse with all the pelf and trumperie thereof should not once be Dangerous to innovate unlesse ther be evident utilitiâ— of innovation spoken against But we all know that the abandoning thereof hath not yet brought any perillous subversion upon any nation that purely and soundly in place thereof hath embraced the holy sacrament of the Lords Supper It seemeth also to be equall for many ages past that the Bishop of Rome might have supreme and absolute power over all persons states and causes not onely in Rome Italy Spaine Germany and other forraigne kingdomes but also in England and Scotland But as yet to the view of all the world it hath not proved perillous for the King and Queene of England and Scotland to establish new laws for the alteration of that ancient abuse And why hath it not been dangerous so to do Why forsooth because there was evident utility in doing of it But how could an evident utilitie appeare before it was done How Forsooth because the holy law of God had warranted an alteration For faith having eyes to see the wisedome the power and the truth of God in his word discerned a far off that the institution of the Lords Supper was long before the sacrifice of the masse And therefore our Kings by abandoning poperie out of the Realme did not institute any new religion but onely they restored the old Now then if a same holy law of God do condemn the choice and thrusting of the pastour upon the people by one man alone and again it the same Law doe impugne the primacie of one pastour over all Pastours as well in a Diocesse or Province as in the whole West part of Christendome what danger can it be not to disfranchise the one sithence without any manner of danger we have abolished the other or what perill can it be not to countenance the sonnes sithence without perill we have discountenanced the father Especially seeing in this place of the admonition wee have a plaine confession that the common manner of election of Pastors Elders and Deacons in the old Churches was made by the people For if the examples of schism discord and contention did commonly appeare in the old Churches while that manner of election did continue then by his owne mouth Common manner of elections in the old churches was by the people that manner of election
and contained in the Scriptures that infants must bee baptized neither is it expressed and contained in the Scriptures that the bishop of Lichfield must have but one wife Yet because it is contained in the Scriptures that God in the beginning brought but one woman unto one man and gave to one woman but one husband I assure my selfe it will not be denyed but that the bishop must and doth content himselfe with one wife and that every Christian ought to bring their children to be baptized Besides if Master Bilson distinguisheth bishops in England from pastours in England and Archbishops in England and Pastors in England two severall orders and degrees of Ministers in the Church of England then I grant that it is neither expressed nor contained in the Scriptures that the people must choose their bishops in England And why but because the Scriptures having put no difference betweene bishops and pastours know no such bishops as we have in England And therefore bishops Bishops in England are only Bb. by the Kings grace and not by divine institution in England being bishops only by the Kings grace and not by divine institution and ordination as pastours in England be hence is it that the Kings of England by their prerogative Royall and not the people by the rule of Scriptures have chosen their bishops in England And for this cause also was it that K. Hen. 8. with advice of the Parliament did resume the nomination appointment investiture and confirmation of his Kingly bishops from the pope As for the nomination of pastours having cure of soules in parishes otherwise than all patrons by right of patronage doe give presentments their choise institution translation oâ— deprivation the Kings of England by their Pastours in parochiall Churches were never placed by the King as Bb. are in their Bishopricks regall power never yet hetherto tooke the same upon them And if the Kings of England by any fact or by any law did never take away the right interest and freedome from the people in choosing their pastours what right other than by usurpation can the bishops have to impose or thrust upon the people pastours without their liking But by custome and consent the people have restrained themselves Hereunto if it were not alreadie sufficiently answered that the people could not lawfully restraine themselves yet Master Bilson himselfe answereth That the late bishops of Rome never left cursing The people lost their consent by cursing and fighting of the Popes and fighting till they had excluded both prince and people and reduced the election wholly to the Clergie By cursing and fighting then have the people beene overruled and excluded and not by custome or consent have they restrained themselves Yea and by vertue of this cursed fight only doe the Bishops of England at this day exclude both Prince and people from medling in the choise of pastours For by authoritie of the canon law made by those late cursing and fighting Bishops of Rome the bishops of England have the sole ordination and placing of pastours over the people And from hence also it is plaine that the peoples right was not by their default or abuse relinquished and forfeited For then the late Bishops of Rome needed not to have cursed and fought for it And now whether it be not meet that the Lord Bishops professing themselves to be Christian bishops should still retaine in their hands and not restore unto Christian people the possession of their Christian equitie and freedome extoâ—ted from them by the cursings and fightings of antichristian Bishops I leave it to the consideration of the reverend bishops themselves Touching the mischiefes and inconveniences of schismes troubles strifes and contentions so often inculcated and so much urged and excepted against the election of the people there is no man able as I thinke to produce any one pregnant proofe out of any ancient or late historie that any king or Soveraigne power hath interposed any supreme authoritie to appease any discord or dissention ensuing or raised upon the bare choise made of any meere parochiall pastour by any faithfull and christian people The schismes strifes and factions that were raised in the old churches sprang out and slowed onely Schismes and contentions spring from schismaticall and proud clergie masters from the heads and fountaines of those schismes strifes and factions and namely from proud ambitious and hereticall bishops and great clergie masters For they being infected and poisoned with the contagion of schisme and heresie and having sowred the mindes of their Disciples with the leaven of their hereticall doctrines no marvaile if the people became followers of the evill manners of their teachers and no marvaile if they verified the proverbe Like master like man like Priest like people Eustatius Bishop of Antioch being a Sabellian heretike was deposed by the Councell of Antioch after whose deposition a fierie flame of sedition was kindled in Antioch Socr. 1. c. â—â— because one sort of the common people sought to translate Eusebius Pamphilus from Caesarea to Antioch some other would bring againe Eustatius Eusebius bishop of Nicomedia and Theognis bishop of Nice being both Arians with their confederates raised skirmishes and tumults against Athanasius after the death of Alexander bishop Socr. l. 2. c. 2 of Constantinople about the election of a bishop there was greater stirre than ever before time and the Church was more grievously turmoyled The people were devided into two parts the one egerly set with the heresie of Arius clave to Macedonius the other cleaved very constantly to the decrees of the Nieene Councell and choose Socr. l. 2. c. 4 Paulus to be their Bishop The cause of division among the Citizens of Emisa about the election of Eusebius Emisenus was for that he was charged with the studie of the Mathematickes and accused of Socr. l. 2. c. 6 the heresie of Sabellius After the death of Eusebius when the people of Constantinople had brought againe Paulus to be their bishop the Arians chose Macedonius The authors and chiefe doers in that stirre were certaine Arian bishops who before aided Eusebius that turned up side downe the whole state of the Church These Socr. l. c. 9 and sundry such like sturres discords factions and dissentions are found to have beene raised and pursued by schismaticall and hereticall bishops their favourites and followers in the old Churches but that these or the like mischieves and inconveniences can be proved to have fallen out by the election of Parochiall pastours in the old Churches we deny And why then should not the interest and freedome of faithfull and Christian people wrested from them by cursings and fightings of faithlesse and antichristian Popes be restored to them againe And the cause ceasing why should not the effect likewise cease And therefore we humbly intreat the Lords bishops that against the grounds of reason and nature against Christian equitie A â—equest to the â—everend
Bishop then having these two severall and distinct offices imposed upon his person the one by divine the other by humane Law the one humane and Episcopall the other without pomp and pastorall there ariseth from thence this question by which of those two functions hee may lawfully I meane according to Gods Law minister the Doctrine Sacraments and censures of Christ If it bee answered that it is lawfull for him by vertue of his Pastorall office to minister the doctrine and Sacraments and by force of his humane Episcopall office to minister the censures of Christ then is not the answer fitted to the question the same being made à bene conjunctis ad male divisa For the censures of Christ as well as the doctrine of Christ being simply of divine ordinance it must follow if his Episcopall power be onely of humane right and pastorall power be onely of divine institution that the censures may bee ministred by authority derived onely from man but the doctrine and Sacraments by power derived onely from God Which commixion of divine and humane right in the execution of the ordinances of God can no manner of wayes be sound pure and sincere and therefore also can not be pleasing unto God For no more can the censures of Christ to the pleasure of God be lawfully administred by the authoritie of any one whose function is of man and not of God than could the sacrifice of God bee offered by one who was a priest of man and not of God Now that humane Episcopality or Bâ—shoppisme in the Church of England is authorized and deduced from Lordly Episcopality authorized only by the Law of the Realme the power and Law of man viz. of the King and Realme alone is evident as well by the donation and endowment of the Bishoprickes founded by the Kingly Prerogatives of the Kings of this Realme as by the erection and establishment of the new Bishopricks of Chester Gloucester Bristoll Peter borough and Oxford with their Cathedrall Churches Seas Cities meeres and bounds of those humane Bishops for the exercise of their Episcopall administration according to act of Parliament authorizing the Kings Highnesse to make Bishops by His Letters Patents Nay further that humane Episcopall Note that King Henry the eight by letters Patents made Bish therefore c. 31. H. 8. c. 9 jurisdiction within the meres and bounds of every Diocesse within England is meerely of humane and not of divine institution appeareth by that power and authority which the King hath in translating and dissolving of Bishopricks in conserving Episcopall jurisdiction sometimes to such persons as be no Bishops as did William the Conqueror when hee gave Episcopall power to the Abbot of Battaile and lastly by the very manner and forme of the nomination licence of Election and authority of investiture confirmation and consecration of Archbishops and Bishops established by the more positive Law of the Realme But if it bee answered 25. H. 8. c. 20 that the Bishop by his humane Episcopall power doth minister the Doctrine Sacraments and discipline of Christ then is the case worse with him than it was before because then not onely the Discipline of Christ but also the doctrine and Sacraments of Christ should bee ministred by that authority which is of humane institution Besides the answer should be untrue because the Bishop at the time of his consecration doth not receive any authority to preach the Word and minister the Sacraments for that authority was then committed unto him when first he was ordained to be a Presbyter But the authority which hee receiveth at the time of his consecration is to correct and punish such as bee unquiet disobedient and criminous within his Diocesse Whereby once againe is that confirmed which was erst said viz. That Episcopall power in England is not of divine but of humane institution Especially for that by the Scriptures it can not be proved that there bee two severall and distinct formes of ordinations the one called consecration proper to a Lord Bishop for the exercise of Discipline the other called ordination peculiar to a Pastor or teaching Elder for the ministration of the Word and Sacraments Whereunto lastly may bee added another maine reason that Episcopall power in If the Lord Bish have power to minister disâ—ipline by divine right then no more can he commit that his power to an other than he can commit the power which hee hath of preaching to another England to minister the Discipline can not therefore bee of divine institution because if it were of divine institution the Bishop could no more surrogate the same his Episcopall power to his Suffragane to his Vicar generall or Rouland Allen to minister the censures of Christ in his owne name than hee can depute them or any of them to minister the doctrine and Sacraments in his own name But how doth it appeare that the Vicar generall Rowland Allen or any other Presbyter did ever excommunicate by the power or in the name of the Bishop For the proofe hereof we shall not need to search any other authenticall record then the precept and the practice before intreated of For it is not said in the precept that the Presbyter being armed with authority from Christ but it is said that the Presbyter being armed with authority from the Bishop or Archdeacon shall denounce the sentence of excommunication the practice also of Doctor Hone every way confirmeth as much For therein Doctor Hone doth not challenge to be an Officer unto Christ but he saith that he is the officiall of the venerable Archdeacon of Surrey and that Master Rowland Allen Presbyter by vertue of his office doth excommunicate the parties who obeyed not his mandates who made not their appearances before him c. If it be answered that Rowland Allen though he be not an immediate officer from Christ that yet neverthelesse he is a mediate officer depuâ—ed to his office by an immediate officer unto Christ viz. the Lord Bishop or Archdeacon then wee reply and say First that the Lord Bishop and Archdeacon be neither immediate or mediâ—te Officers appointed by Christ to bee ministers of his discipline Secondly if they were immediate officers from Christ that yet they have no authority by the Law of Christ to transfer their right or any part thereof to an other person in their name or by their authoritie to excommunicate As for these words viz. In Dei nomine Amen nos Iohannes Hone or nos Roulandus Allen c. sometimes used in their scedule of excommunication it is but a prophaning of the holy name of God whereby they make themselves guilty of the taking of the glorious name of God in vaine And thus much touching both the question and answer whether the discipline of Christ may be ministred by the Bishops humane Episcopall power yea or no. But now on the other side because no divine censure can lawfully be executed in the Church by that authority
Cecill TO the end I may enforme your Lordship of my dealing in this Parliament-time against the undue claimed superiority of the Bishops over their inferior brethren Thus it was Because I was in the Parliament time in the 25. yeare of King Henry the eight In which time First all the Clergie aswell Bishops as others made an humble submission to King Henry the Eighth acknowledging his Supremacie and detesting the usurpation of the Bishops of Romes authoritie Vpon which submssion of the Clergie the King gave unto the said Bishops the same ample rule that before they had under the Pope over their inferiour brethren saving that the same rule was abridged by stature by this parenthesis following that is to say without offending the prerogative Royall of the Crowne of England and the lawes and customes of the Realme In the later end of the Statute it was added that whosoever offendeth in any one part of that statute and their Aydors Counsellors and Abbettors they did all fall into the penalty of the premunire And after I had recited this statute in the Parliament house I declared that in King Henry the Eight dayes after this There was no Bishop that did practise superio rity over their inferior brethren And in King Edwards dayes the said Bishops obtained a statute whereby they were authorized to keepe their Courts in the Kings name the which statute was repealed in Queene Maries dayes and was not received in her Majesties time that now is whereupon it was doubtfull to me by what authority the Bishops do keepe their Courts now in their owne names because it is against the Prerogative Royall of the Crowne of England that any should keepe a Court without sufficient warrant from the Crowne Whereupon I was answered that the Bishops doe keepe their Courts now by prescriptions and it is true that the Bishop may prescribe that King Henry the 8. gave them authority by the statute of 25. of his raigne to have authority and rule over their inferior brethren as ample as they had in the Popes time But this was no speciall warrant for them to keepe their Courts by and that in their owne names And yet they have none other warrant to keep their Courts as they doe now in their owne names to my knowledge And this was the cause that made them obtaine a statute in King Edwards dayes to keepe their Courts by in the Kings name Now it is a strange allegation that the Bishops should claime authority at this present to keep their Courts in their own names as they do by prescription because the statute of 25. doth restraine them generally from offending of the Prerogative Royall of the Crowne of England and the Lawes and customes of the Realme And no man may justly keepe a Court without a speciall warrant from the Crowne of England as is aforesaid And the generall liberty given by King H. the 8. to the Bishops to rule and governe as they did in the Popes time is no sufficient warrant to the Bishops to keep their owne Courts in their own names by prescription as I take it And therefore the Bishops had done wisely if they had sought a warrant by statute to keepe their Courts in the Queenes name as the Bb. did in K. Edwards dayes In which time Arch. Cranmer did cause Peter Martir and Bucer to come over into this Realme to be placed in the two Vniversities for the better instruction of the Vniversities in the word of God And B. Cranmer did humbly prefer these learned men without any challenge to himselfe of any superior rule in this behalfe over his inferiour brethren And the time hath bin that no man could carry away any grant from the Crowne of England by generall words but that hee must have speciall words to carry the same by Therefore how the B. are warranted to carry away the keeping of their Courts in their owne names by prescription it passeth my understanding Moreover where as your Lordship said unto mee that the Bishops have forsaken their claime of superiority over their inferior brethren lately to bee by Gods ordinance and that now they doe only claime superiority from her Majesties supreme government If this be true then is it requisite and necessary that my L. of Canterbury that now is do recant and retract his saying in his book of the great volume against Cartwright where he saith in plaine words by the name of D. Whitgift that the superiority of B. is Gods owne institution Which saying doth impugne her Majesties supreme government directly and therefore it is to bee retracted plainly and truly For Christ plainly and truly confesseth Ioh. 18. 36. That his Kingdome was not of this world And therefore he gave no worldly rule or preheminence to his Apostles but the heavenly rule which was to preach the Gospell saying Ite praedicate in omnem mundum qnicunque crediderit baptizatus fuerâ—t salvus erit qui non crediderit condemnabitur Goe and preach in all the world whosoever shall beleeve be baptized shall bee saved but he that will not beleeve shall be condemned Mark 16. 15. But the Bishops do cry out saying that Cartwright and his fellows would have no government c. So belike the B. care for no government but for worldly and forcible government over their brethren the which Christ never gave to his Disciples nor Apostles but made them subject to the rule of Princes who ought not to be resisted saving that they might answer unto Princes that they must rather obey God than men Acts 5. 29. and yet in no wise to resist the Prince but to take up the Crosse and follow Christ FINIS
the defendant is ready to aver maintaine and prove his answer as shall please the King to award and to command And therefore he most humbly beseecheth the King if it please the King and that hee have found favour in his sight that his exceptions may be admitted and read and that his counsell learned in the law may be heard and suffered to speake This platforme of government intended by the admonitor not to be liked of in this place is that platforme of Church government Booke of Com. Pray tit Commination Homil. 2. part of the right use of the Church Admo pag. Whitgift p. 654. M. Nowell in his Cate. M. Calvin M. Iunius Looke Peti to her excellent Majestie p. 11. by Pastours and Elders which the Booke of Common Prayer the Doctrine of the Church of England doe highly command and which he himselfe Master D. Whitgift now Lord Archbishop of Canterbury and very many other c reverend Divines of our age doe publikely confesse in their writings to have beene practised by the Apostles and Primitive Church From whence it followeth that the government of the Church by Archbishops Bishops Suffraganes Archdeacons Deacons Chancellours Commissaries and Officialls now already planted and liked of was not practised by the Apostles and Primitive Church And therefore for my part I cannot but marvell that a disciple of the Apostles Doctrine and a successor in the Apostles Chaire should be drawne to humane reasons not to like of the Apostles government nor to tread in the steps of the Primitive Church For seeing the same is acknowledged by himself to be the first ways to be the old and ancient way as being the Apostles way why Ier. 6. 16. should we not walke therein as in the only good and perfect way The reverend Bishops will not deny that the Apostles and Primitive Church for their manner of governement had the mind of Christ and that we should follow the Apostles as having them for examples because they were the followers of Christ Againe they cannot but grant that the manner of governement practised by the Apostles and Primitive Church is written within the booke of the covenants of grace All which notwithstanding we see in this place that from the new Testament from the Articles of grace from the law from the testimonie from the example of the Apostles and from the mind of Christ we are addressed and turned over to our state of government to our countrey to our people to our Common weale and to our Lawes But this turning of devises shall it not bee esteemed as the Potters clay Isa 29. 16. But saith he to plant those things in this Church which are required to be redressed might bring rather the overthrow of the Gospell than the end that is desired Indeed say I if this might be as soone proved as it was soone said the case might have gone well with him But this parable is so darke that unlesse it be opened there is no light at all to be seene in it For he well knew that in stead of the government practised by the Apostles and Primitive Church the jurisdiction of Archbishops Bishops Suffragans Deacons Archdeacons Chancellors Commissaries and Officials is already planted in this Church And he was not ignorant also that the same jurisdiction only and none other is required to be redressed Now then if request be made that this manner of governement be redressed how can it evidently bee seene that to plant that manner of government might bring rather the overthrow of the Gospell than the end that is desired But it may be that he meant more lightsomely than he spake Yea let it be that he intended thus viz. to unplant that which is now planted and to plant those things which are yet unplanted by reason of many and great alterations might bring rather an overthrow of the Gospell than the end that is desired well I say be it so that he thus meant How is this thing evidently seene or how can it evidently be proved The best sight that the servant of Christ can have is faith For Faith is an evidence of things which are not seene This overthrow Heb. 11. then of the Gospell not being seene with his bodily eyes must needs be intended to have beene seene with the eyes of his faith But where is the word of Christ whereupon the eyes of his faith were fixed If then he hold no word of faith then of necessitie was his evident sight but an evident fancy And in deed what else could it be For what other thing is there desired to bee planted in this Church but only the Apostolicall government of Christ And what other Gospell could hee evidently see that might bee overthrowne by holding forth this scepter but only the Apostolicall doctrine of Christ A marvellous strange and unkinde sight I trow to be seene that the Apostolicall Governement could no sooner bee planted but that the Apostolicall doctrine must needs be rooted up That Christ by his owne scepter were not able to maintaine his owne grace by his owne order should weaken his owne oath or by his owne sword should cut from the people of God his owne Word But seeing it was his purpose to perswade the people unto a dislike of the Apostolicall government by arguments and reasons drawne from humane policie rather than to confirme them in a good opinion of the Prelaticall Government by proofes taken from the authoritie of holy Scripture we will follow him in this his veine Yea and by the help of God we will try of what efficacy such his politike and humane reasons may be as wherewith he did assay to disswade the people from consenting unto any other manner of Church Government than is already setled among us The generall effect of all which both here and else where spoken of by him briefly gathered is this Such things may not be planâ—ed in the Church of England as by attempting the planting whereof there is an evident sight that the Gospell among us may be overthrowne But there is an evident sight that the Gospell among us may be overthrown by attempting to plant that Government in the Church of England which was practised by the Apostles and the Primitive Church Therefore that manner of Governement may not be planted The assumption of which sillogisme hee endeavoureth to confirme thus whatsoever will draw with it many and great alterations of the state of Government and of the lawes the same may bring rather the overthrow of the Gospell than the end that is desired but the planting of the Governement practised by the Apostles and Primitive Church will draw with it many and great alterations of the state of Government and of the lawes Therefore the planting of this manner of government may rather bring an overthrow of the Gospell c. If any shall object that by thus gathering his argument I had in this place falsified his argument by adding more than is here
the Bishops and Archdeacons their Courts Wee will examine what fees Doctors of the civill law being Chancellors Commissaries or Officials have usually and ordinarily allowed unto them by their Lords and Masters Fees for probat of Testaments granting Fees for probat of testaments let to farm of administrations with their appendances of late years in some places whether in all or how many I know not have beene demised unto farm for an annuall rent out of which either a small or no portion at all have beene allowed unto the Chancellor or Officiall for his service in this behalf Whereupon as I conjecture it hath fallen out rather than that those Officers would worke keepe Courts and travaile for little or nought ther have been exacted greater fees for the dispatch of these things than by law ought to have bin paid Perquisits of courts arising upon suites commenced betweene partie and partie it must be a plentifull harvest and there must be multi amici curiae in a Bishops consistorie if ordinarily communibus annis they amount in the whole to twenty pounds by the yeare and yet these perquisits belong not wholly to the Chancellor but are to be devided between him and the Register And touching fees for excommunication and absolution fees for institution and induction licences to preach licences for Curats and Readers For testimoniall of subscription or licences to marry without banes fees for commutation of penance and fees for relaxation of sequestrations touching these manner of Fees if the same be fees no Fees due for the execution of the functions of the canon law dishonourable for a Doctor of the civill Law way warrantable how are not then such fees every way dishonourable for a Doctor of the Civill law to take either of Ministers or people There must be therefore some other hope of better reward and maintenance to incite and incourage schollars to the studie of the civill law than are these beggerly and unlawfull fees depending upon the functions and exacted by the Officers of the Canon law or els the use of the civill law as the Admonitor saith must necessarily in short time be overthrown For if Fees for probat of Testaments and granting of administrations with their appendices shall still be let to farme and if also many unlawfull fees were quite inhibited there would remaine I trow but a very poore pittance for Civilians out of the functions of the Canon law to maintain their Doctoralities withall But what better reward can there bee for Civilians than hath already beene mentioned If the Admonitor had not willingly put a hood Civilians in England live not only by the functions of Canon law wincke before his eyes he might have seene that the Civilians live not wholly and altogether by the practice of the Canon Law but partly also and that most honourably by the use of the Civill law If a Doctor of the Civill Law be judge or Advocate in the Court of Admiraltie if he be Judge or Advocate in the Prerogative Court so farre as the same Court handleth only matters of Legacies Testaments and Codicills to what use can the Canon Law serve him or what advantage can the same Law bring him in Beside to what use serveth the Canon Law unto a Doctor of the Civill Law if he shall finde favour in the Kings sight and if it please the King to make him one of the Masters of his Requests or one of the twelve Masters of his high Court of Chancery or to be the Master of his Rolls or to be his Highnesse Embassador unto forraigne Nations or to be one of his Highnes most honourable privie Councel or to be one of his principall Secretaries It followeth not therefore as the Admonitor pretendeth that either the Civilians in this Realme live not by the use of the civill law but by the offices and functions of the Canon law and such things as are within the compasse thereof or that the hope of reward and by that means the whole studie of the Civill Law must be taken away if once the Canon Law should be abolished Neither would it bee any hard matter for the King if the Civilians might find grace in his sight to appoint Courts Offices and all manner of processe and proceedings in judgement for Doctors of the Civill Law to heare and determine in the Kings name all causes being now within the compasse of any Civill or Ecclesiasticall Law within this Realme And although a little candle can give but a little light and a small Spring can send forth but a small streame yet because great fires are kindled sometimes by little sparkles and small streames meeting together may in time grow into great riveâ—s I shall desire the great Civilians with their floods and lamps of learning to help forward such a law as whereby the study of the Civill Law may be upholden the reward and maintenance of Civilians without any function from the Canon Law may be enlarged many controversies and disorders in the Church may be pacified and the Kings Prerogative Royall bee duely advanced Which things if it might please them rightly to consider then let them humbly and seriously beseech our Soveraigne Lord the King and States in Parliament to give their consents to such a Law as the project ensuing may warrant them the same not to bee dangerous to the overthrow of their civill studies The Project of an Act for the explanation and amplyfying of one branch of a Statute made in the first year of the raign of Queen ELIZABETH entituled An Act restoring to the Crowne the ancient jurisdiction over the state Ecclesiasticall and also for the declaring and reviving of a Statute made in the first year of King EDWARD the sixth entiled An Act what seales and stiles Bishops and other spirituall persons exercising jurisdiction Ecclesiasticall shall use FOrasmuch as by one branch of an Act made in the first yeare of our late Soveraign Ladie of blessed memorie Queen Elizabeth entituled an Act restoring to the Crowne the ancient jurisdiction over the state Ecclesiasticall and Spirituall and abolishing all forraign power repugnant to the same it was established and enacted That such jurisdictions priviledges superiorities and preeminences Spirituall and Ecclesiasticall as by any spirituall or Ecclesiasticall power or authority hath heretofore beene or may lawfully be exercised or used for the visitation of the Ecclesiasticall state and persons and for reformation order and correction of the same and of all manner errors heresies schismes abuses offences contempts and enormities should for ever by authoritie of that present Parliament be united and annexed to the imperiall Crown of this Realm by means whereof it may now be made a question whether any Archbishops or other Ecclesiasticall persons having since that time used or exercised any such spirituall or Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction in their owne right or names might lawfully have done or hereafter may lawfully do the same without speciall warrant and authoritie derived
immediately from your highnesse by and under your Highnesse letters patents And whereas also by a statute made in the first yeare of King Edward the sixth entituled an Act what seales and stile Bishops or other spirituall persons shall use it was ordained that all and singular Archbishops and Bishops and others exercising Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction should in their processe use the Kings name and stile and not their owne and also that their Seales should be graved with the Kings arms And forasmuch also as it must be highly derogatorie to the imperiall Crowne of this your Highnesse Realme that any cause whatsoever Ecclesiasticall or temporall within these your Highnesse Dominions should bee heard or adjudged without warrant or commission from your Highnesse your heires and successors or not in the name stile and dignity of your Highnesse your heires and successors or that any seals should be annexed to any promise but onely your Kingly seale and armes May it therefore please the King at the humble supplication of his Commons to have it enacted That the foresaid branch of the foresaid Act made in the first yeare of Queene Elizabeth her raigne and every part thereof may still remaine and for ever bee in force And to theend the true intent and meaning of the said statute made in the first year of K. Edw. the sixth may be declared and revived that likewise by the authoritie aforesaid it may be ordained and enacted that all and singular Ecclesiasticall Courts and Consistories belonging to any Archbishops Bishops Suffraganes College Deane and Chapter Prebendarie or to any Ecclesiasticall person or persons whatsoever and which have heretofore beene commonly called reputed taken or knowne to be Courts or Consistories for causes of instance or wherein any suite complaint or action betweene partie and partie for any matter or cause wherein judgement of law civill or Canon hath beene or is required shall and may for ever hereafter be reputed taken and adjudged to be Courts and judgement seates meerely Civill secular and temporall and not henceforth Ecclesiasticall or Spirituall and as of right belonging and appertaining to the Royall Crowne and dignitie of our Soveraigne Lord King James that now is his heires and successors for ever And that all causes of instance and controversies betweene partie and partie at this day determinable in any of the said Courts heretofore taken and reputed Ecclesiasticall shall for ever hereafter bee taken reputed and adjudged to be causes meerly Civill secular and temporall as in truth they ought to bee and of right are belonging and appertaining to the jurisdiction of the Imperiall crown of this Realme And further that your Highnesse Leige people may bee the better kept in awe by some authorized to bee your Highnesse Officers and Ministers to execute justice in your Highnes name and under your Highnesse stile and title of King of England Scotland France and Ireland defender of the Faith c. in the said Courts and Consistories and in the said causes and controversies Be it therefore enacted by the authorities aforesaid That all the right title and interest of in and to the said Courts and Consistories and in and to the causes and controversies aforesaid by any power jurisdiction or authoritie heretofore reputed Ecclesiasticall but by this Act adjudged civill secular and temporall shall for ever hereafter actually and really be invested and appropried in and to the Royall person of our Soveraigne Lord the King that now is his heires and successors Kings and Queenes of this Realme And that it shall and may be lawfull to and for our said Soveraigne Lord and King his heires and successors in all and every Shire and Shires Diocesse and Diocesses within his Highnesse Dominions and Countries by his and their letters patents under the great Seale of England from time to time and at all times to nominate and appoint one or moe able and sufficient Doctor or Doctors learned in the Civill Law to bee his and their civill secular and temporall Officer and Officers Minister and Ministers of justice in the same civill secular and temporall Courts and Consistories which in and over his and their royall name stile and dignitie shall as Judge and Judges doe performe and execute all and every such act and acts thing and things whatsoever in and about the execution of justice and equitie in those Courts according to the course and order of the civill Law or the Ecclesiasticall canons and constitutions of the Realme as heretofore hath beene used and accustomed to bee done by for or in the name of any Archbishops Bishops Colledge Cathedrall Church Deane Archdeacon Prebendary or any other Ecclesiasticall person or persons whatsoever And that all and every such civill secular and temporall Officer and Officers Minister and Ministers Judge and Judges in his and their processe shall use one manner of Seal only and none other having graved decently therin your Kingly armes with certaine characters for the knowledge of the Diocesse or Shire And further be it enacted c. That it shall and may be lawfull by the authoritie aforesaid for our said Soveraigne Lord the King his heires and successors from time to time and at all times to nominate and appoint by his and their Highnesse Letters Patents under the great Seale of England for every Shire and Shires Diocesse and Diocesses within his or their highnesse Dominions one or more able and sufficient persons learned in the Civill Law to be his and their Notarie and Notaries Register and Registers by him and themselves or by his or their lawfull Deputie or Deputies to doe performe and execute all and every such act and acts thing and things as heretofore â—â— the Courts and Consistories Ecclesiasticall aforesaid hath beene and â—ow are incident and appertaining to the office of any Register or Notarie And further at the humble suit of the Commons c. it may please the King to have it enacted that all and singular matters of Wills and Testaments with all and every their appendices that all and singular matters of Spousals and Marriages with their accessories that all and singular matters of defamation heretofore determinable in the Ecclesiasticall Courts and if there bee any other causes of the like meere civill nature shall bee heard examined and determined by the said civill and secular Officers and Iudges in the said civill and secular Courts according to the due course of the civill Law or statutes of the Realme in that behalfe provided And that all matters of Tythes Dilapidations repayre of Churches and if there bee any other of like nature with their accessories and appendices shall be heard examined and determined by the said civill and secular Officers and Judges in the said Civill and Secular Courts according to the Kings Ecclesiasticall Lawes Statutes and customes of the Realme in that behalfe heretofore used or hereafter by the King and Parliament to be established And at the humble suite of the Commons may it please the King to
any person detaining his tithes and offerings the Hospitall of S. Leonards in Yorke of the Kings foundation and Patronage endowed of a thrave â—ospital of S. Leonard 1 2. h. 6. c 2 of Corne to bee taken yearely of every plough earing within the Counties of Yorke Comberland Westmerland and Lancaster having no sufficient or convenable remedie at the Common Law against such as with-held the same thraves it was ordained by the King in Parliament that the Master of the said Hospital and his successors might have action by writ or plaints of debt or detaine at their pleasure against all and every of them that detained the same thraves for to recover the same thraves with their dammages And by the Statute of 32. H. 8. c. 4. it is enacted That the Parsons and Curates of five Parish Churches whereinto the Towne of Royson did extend it self and every of them and the successors of every of them shall have their remedie by authoritie of that act to sue demand ask and recover in the kings Court of Chancerie the tythes of corn hay wooll lamb and calfe subtracted or denyed to be paid by any person or persons Againe Vicars Parsons or improprietaries do impleade any man in the Ecclesiasticall Court for tythes of wood being of the age of twenty years or above for tyth-hay out of a medow for the which time out of mind and memorie of man there hath only some Meade-silver beene paid or if a debate hang in a spirituall Court for the right of tythes having his originall from the right of Patronage and the quantity of the same tythes do passe the fourth part of the value of the benefice a prohibition in all these and sundry other cases doth lie and the matters are to bee tried and examined in the Kings Courts according to the course of the Common Law unlesse upon just cause there bee granted a consultation And if in these cases in maintenance of the Common Law the defendants have reliefe in the Kings Courts I thinke it more meet to leave it to the consideration rather of common than to the judgement of Canon Lawyers to determine what alteration the Common Law could sustaine in case if plaintiffes as well as some defendants might pray the Kings aide for the recoverie of tythes especially seeing at this day the manner of paying tythes in England for the most part is now limited by the common and statute lawes of the Realm and not by any forraigne canon law But there is some fact Object happily so difficile so secret and so misticall in these causes of tythes as the same cannot without a very great alteration of the Common law Answer be so much as opened before a lay judge or of the hidden knowledge whereof the Kings temporall Judges are not capable Why then let us What facts touching the upholding of tyths are examinable in the Ecclesiasticall courts see of what nature that inextricable fact may be I have perused many libels made and exhibited before the Ecclesiasticall Judges yea and I have read them over and over and yet for ground of complaint did I never perceive any other materiall and principall kinde of fact examinable in those Courts but only such as follow First that the partie agent is either Rector Vicar Proprietarie or Possessor of such a Parish-Church and of the Rectorie Vicaridge farme possession or dominion of the same and by vertue thereof hath right unto all tythes oblations c. apertaining to the same Church and growing within the same parish bounds limits or places tythable of the same Secondly that his predecessors Rectors Vicars c. time out of mind and memorie of man have quietly and peaceably received and had all and singular tythes oblations c. increasing growing and renewing within the Parish c and that they and he have beene and are in peaceable possession of having and receiving tythes oblations c. Thirdly that the partie defendant hath had and received in such a yeer c. of so many sheepe feeding and couching within the said Parish c. so many fleeces of wooll and of so many Ewes so many Lambes c. Fourthly that the defendant hath not set out yeelded or paid the tyth of the wooll and lambe and that every Tyth fleece of the said wool by commâ—n estimation is worth so much and that every tyth Lambe by common estimation is likewise worth so much c. Fifthly that the defendant is subject to the jurisdiction of that Court whereunto he is summoned Lastly that the defendant doth hetherto deny or delay to pay his tyths notwithstanding he hath beene requested thereunto These and such like are the chiefe matters of fact whereupon in the The Kings Iustices are as able to judge of exceptions against tyths as the Ecclesiasticall Iudges Ecclesiasticall Courts proofes by witnesses or records rest to be made for the recoverie of tythes And who knoweth not but that these facts upon proofes made before the Kings Justices may aswell bee decided by them as by any of the Reverend Bishops or venerable Archdeacons their Chancellors or Officials If there be any exception alleaged by the defendant as of composition prescription or priviledge the Kings Justices are as able to judge of the validitie of these as they are now able eo determine customes de modo decimandi or of the use of high wayes of making and repairing of Bridges of Commons of pasture pawnage â—estovers or such like Truth it is that of Legacies and bequests of goods the reverend Bishops by sufferance Legacies how they may be recovered at the common law of our Kings and consent of our people have accustomably used to take cognizance and to hold plea in their spirituall Courts Notwithstanding if the Legacie bee of lands where lands be divisible by Testament the judgement thereof hath beene alwayes used and holden by the Kings writ and never in any Ecclesiasticall Court Wherefore if it shall please the King to enlarge the authoritie of his Courts temporall by commanding matters of legacies and bequests of goods aswell as of lands to be heard and determined in the same it were not much to be feared but that the kings Justices the kings learned Counsell and others learned in the Law of the Realm without any alteration of the same law would speedily finde meanes to apply the grounds thereof aswell to all cases of Legacies and bequests of goods as of lands For if there be no goods divisible by will but the same are grantable and confirmable by deed of gift could not the kings Justices aswell judge of the gift and of the thing given by will as of the grant and of the thing granted by deed of gift or can they not determine of a Legacie of goods aswell as of a bequest of lands If it should come in debate before them whether the Testator at that time of making his will were of good and perfect memorie upon proofs and other
law that all and every impropried Church and Churches with their glebes tythes and other fruits after the determination of the leases now in being should bee demised and set to farme onely to the incumbent Ministers of the same Churches for terme of their naturall lives if so long they did continue resiant and faithfully preach in the same Churches the doctrine of the Gospell according to the articles of Religion concerning Faith and Sacraments by publike authoritie now established in the Church of England And because by likelihood the Vicars will not be able to pay fynes or incomes unto the Colledges Hospitals and other places and because also it seemeth reasonable that the Colledges Hospitalls and other places by some other meanes should be recompenced wee leave it againe to be considered whether it were not convenient that the Vicars in consideration of non payment of fynes should yeeld in money corn or other provision to the double or treble value of the ancient and unimproved rents For men experienced in these affaires of this life know that the profits arising out of Churches appropried unto the farmours thereof are commonly six eight or ten times more worth by just estimation than are the old rents payable unto Colledges Hospitalls and other like places And thus wee see how together with the bringing in of these things which are required to bee planted in the Church impropriations may stand as mens lawfull possessions and heritages or otherwise how without damage or hurt to the King or Realme they may be converted to the use and provision of the Ministers whatsoever hath beene insinuated by the Admonitor to the contrary And yet doe I not in any of these things or of any other thing first or last spoken or to be spoken desire mine owne advice and judgement so to be respected as though I should arrogate unto my selfe more knowledge than all others which labour in the cause of reformation but onely I submit these my private meditations with their reasons to the censures of all wise godly and learned men Humbly praying them so to bestirre their owne wits and so to bestow their owne cunning and learning that a better and more easier way by their ingenuousnesse may be found out and procured to take place And in the meane season that these motions tendered to their views may not altogether be neglected but duely weyed and considered Especially for that I have not tendered any other thing to be performed by any of these meanes unto any other than such as whereunto I my selfe to my power yea and beyond my power as far as in me lyeth shall be ready to yeeld And howsoever the Bishops and other great Clergie Masters with their stately favourites may pretend some part of this device to bee an hinderance of learning and other some part not to be for the Kings profit yet to the first we answer briefly that learning is not so much furthered by a few great rewards provided for a few great learned men as it is by many good rewards appointed for many good learned men as hereafter more at large in a more convenient place is declared Touching the Kings profit we affirme that it is not only most profitable but also most honourable for the King to have a multitude of loyall vertuous and godly subjects And that such manner of subjects can by no meanes better bee procured than by a continuall preaching Ministerie of the Word to be planted in every parish of the Kings Realmes And because no man better knoweth the recyprocall duties betweene a Christian King and Christian Councellers we leave the discerning of the spirits of these profit preachers to the tryall and judgement of the most Christian King whom if hee shall finde either by flatterie to fawne upon the Kings profit or by labouring to keepe the King in a good opinion of things amisse wee most humbly beseech the King to accept them and reward them for such as could wish in their hearts the king should rather bee impoverished by having many bad and unprofitable subjects than that themselves would not be inriched by enjoying many good and profitable impropriations As for the Lawes whereby patronages do stand as mens lawfull possessions and inheritances which as the Admonitor saith must also be taken away how the same lawes may still endure or by consent of patrons bee altered without their dammage if God permit when we come to speak of the clections of Ministers wherein the reformers are charged with the burling and thrusting out of Patrons shall be declared ADMONITION The Lawes of England to this day have stood by the authoritie of the three estates which to alter now by leaving out the one may happily seeme a matter of more weight than all men doe judge it ASSERTION Not to stand upon termes with the Admonitor that the lawes usually called the common lawes of the land being meere customarie lawes did never yet stand by the authoritie of the three estates I will The bringing in of the discipline by pastours and elders is not the leaving out of parliament any one of the three estates take his meaning to bee that the statute lawes of England to this day have stood by authoritie of the three estates which to alter now by leaving out the one c. and then hereunto I answer that not any one of the three estates should be left out or barred from having authoritie in making and promulging statute lawes though the government of the Church by Pastors and Elders were brought in For we which so much cry as he saith for this manner of government to be planted are so farre from exempting or excluding any one of the three estates from their ancient power priviledge and preeminence in the making of statute lawes as that wee pronounce him to be guilty of high treason to the King and to the Realme that avoweth the contrary And we affirme directly and confesse plainly that it belongeth only wholly and altogether to the three estates as well to roote out and to pull up whatsoever government is not justifiable by the holy law of God as also to plant and to settle whatsoever discipline is warrantable by the same law And to speak as the thing is how were it possible to have the discipline by Pastors and Elders planted by authoritie of the three estates if one of the three estates should be left out or can it be imagined that any one of the three estates would ever consent to the bringing in of such a government of the Church as whereby the same governement being once brought in the same estate should ever after wards cease to be any more an estate Besides we acknowledge that all powers are of God and therefore every one of the three estetes being a power we grant that the same hath his stateship by the authoritie of God And if all the three estates be lawfull by the holy law of God how can it bee verified
of Yorke and Silby were there present In a booke intituled the burning of Pauls Church in London 1561. and in the fift question moved by a papist it is said that this manner of ministration of Sacraments set forth in the booke of Common prayers was never allowed nor agreed upon c. no not by the Clergie of England at the last Parliament but only it was agreed upon by the Laitie which had nothing a doe with spirituall matters or causes of religion Whereunto the reverend Father Master Pilkington Bishop of M. Pilkington Bishop of Durisme Duresme answering was there not saith he a disputation for Religion appointed by the Queenes Majestie wherein your Clergie was affraid to utter their foolishnesse in defending their superstition lest they had taken more shame in answering than they did in holding their peace I thinke the Vniversities with so many places of this Realme receiving religion and these other disputing for it may bee counted to be some part of the clergie of the Realme And so it was not received without consent of the Clergie But these were not of the Parliament What then But as Ioash Josaphat Ezechias and Iosias did not make a new Religion but restored that which was defaced and had long lyen buried so our Parliament did not set forth a new religion but restore that which was godly begun before the good K. Edward confirmed by the Parliament and Clergie then c. But nothing can bee concluded as a law by Parliament say they without consent of the Clergie there present But this having not their consent cannot be counted a law as they think I had rather saith M. Pilkington leave this to be answered by the Lawyers than otherwise Yet that the world may see that something may be said in it we grant him not this to be true that no law at all can be made without consent of Bishops Look your old statutes of Parliament when Bishops were highest afore Edward the third and ye shall read that they passed by consent of the Lords temporall and commons without any mention of the Lords spirituall which statutes many of them stand in strength at this day Then it may well be gathered that the consent of the Clergie was not alwayes so necessarie as they thinke it The Lawyers Judges and Justicers put in practice and execute these lawes therefore their doings may be a sufficient reason to lead the unlearned what opinion they have of this statutes For Religion except Justice Rastall first executing that and afterward running away may condemne the rest which I trust he may not I thinke they would not execute them except they had the strength and nature of lawes If they doe contrary to their knowledge and opinion they cannot be able to answer their doings but I think no wise men are of this opinion Only these corner creepers that dare not shew their face and would deceive the people go about to deface all good and godly order that displeases them In the dayes of K. Edward they had the like fond opinion that the king could not make lawes in his minoritie untill he came unto full age and to make the people to disobey their Prince Hitherto M. Pilkington L. Bishop of Durisme with whom the most worthy and learned M. Jewell late Bishop of M. Iewel B. of Salisburie Salisburie agreeth in every point The wise and learned faith hee could have told you that in the Parliaments of England matters have evermore used to passe not of necessitie by the speciall consent of the Archbishops and Bishops as if without them no statute might lawfully be enacted but only by the more part of voyces yea although the Archbishops and Bishops were never so earnestly bent against it And statutes so passing in Parliaments onely by the voyces of the Lords temporall without the consent and agreement of the Lords spirituall have neverthelesse beene alwayes confirmed and ratified by the Royall assent of the Prince and have beene enacted and published under the names of the Lords spirituall and temporall Reade saith hee the statutes of King Edward the first there shall ye find that in a Parliament holden at S. Edmundsbury the Archb. and Bishops were quite shut forth and yet the Parliament held on and good and profitable lawes were there enacted the departing or absence or malice of the Bishops spirituall notwithstanding In the Records thereof it is written thus Habito Rex cum suis Baronibus Parliamento Clero excluso statutum est The King keeping a Parliament with his Barons the Clergie that is to say the Archbishops and Bishops being shut forth it was enacted c. In provisione de matrona in the time of K. Edward the third whereas matter was moved of bastardie touching the legitimation of bastards borne before mariage the statute passed wholly with the Lords temporall whether the Lords spirituall would or no. and that contrary to the expresse decrees and canons of the Church of Rome And thus much the most reverend and godly Father M. Iewell Bishop of Salisbury Wherefore to conlude this point against the Admonitors position I dispute thus All those persons who by any necessitie are none of the three estates aâ—d by whose authorities the statutes of England to this day have not stood to leave out the same persons may happily seem a matter of lesse weight than all men do judge it But the Archbishops and Bishops are such persons as by nâ—cessitie are none of the three estates and by whose consents the statutes of England to this day have not stood Therefore to leave out the Archbishops and Bishops may happily seem a matter of lesse weight than all men doe judge it If our Evangelicall Bishops be of that opinion of which the Popish Bishops were viz. that the house of Parliament is an unfit and an unmeet place to have the holy cause of the religion of God debated and concluded upon and that the Laitie without the clergie ought not to conclude any thing in Religion and that in respect hereof their presences their voices and their assents are necessary in the â—arliament If our Evangelicall Prelates I say make this objection then besides that hereby they unseemely unmannerly and unchristianly accuse the whole land of ignorance and blindnesse in religion supposing neither King nor Nobles nor Commons to be able to discern betweene night and day besides this I say so shamefull an abuse of a whole Christian nation I would pray them to remember what the most reverend Fathers Master Pilkington and Master Iewell have answered to such cavillous slanders For what else intended they by many examples and proofes brought for the Parliaments of England consisting of the King the Nobles and the Commons to be lawfull Parliaments and to have right to establish religion but to justifie against Popish scoffers that religion might be conceived and established in Parliament notwithstanding the absence or exclusion of the Clergie Besides since our
most men contemned and that it will be of small force to bring to effect any good amendment of life ASSERTION But who taught him to father or to fasten this untruth upon us only then this might suffice for answer that hee did never yet heare any one of our part so much as call much lesse to cry for discipline No discipline by excommunication only called for Discipline by excommunication onely no more to bee suffered by excommunication only For wee say cleane otherwise viz that the Discipline of the Church ought not to be executed as now for the most part it is by excommunication only This manner of discipline therefore by excommunication only is one of the disorders in the Church used by the reverend Bishops and which wee so much desire to bee reformed And for this cause we intreat their Lordships to forbeare the practice of that which as it seemeth they would so faine have others to mislike But happily this was not the marke whereat the Admonitor shot for Bishoply and Archdeaconly excommunication being daily used it is like that he bent his bow and aimed at that excommunication only which is pastorall and Elderly Against which forme and manner of excommunication let be so that some learned men of this age have at large declared in their workes set forth to the world that the same will be of most men contemned and that it will be of small force to bring to effect any good amendment of The writings of som learned men not sufficient to condemâ—eâ— excommunication by pastours and Elders life let this I say be granted what of all this must the Church of England therefore dislike and reject the same God forbid The whole doctrine of Faith and Sacraments we know to bee of most men contemned and to be of small force to bring most men from superstitious and popish idolatrie And how then is it possible but that the sword of this doctrine should have as little entertainement amongst most men as the doctrine He that casteth away the kernell will much more despise the shale And hee that setteth light by the sword will set lesse by the scabberd It sufficeth then that the children of the Church in England striving to enter in at the narrow gate and embracing the doctrine of the Gospell it is sufficient I say that they submit and subject their necks unto the yoke of the Gospell for what have we to doe with them that are without Doth the law of England endight condemn and judge a Spaniard resiant in Spaine The Admonitor himselfe affirmeth at the time when our Saviour Christ said dic Ecclesiae that there were many presidents as it page 134 were and governours of the Church together with the chiefe Ministers page 135 The Bb. confesseth that the Minister and Elders did governe in the primitive Church of every congregation nay further hee saith thaâ— he will not deny that the Apostles afterward and the primitive Church did practise the same These some learned men then eâ—ther must shew and prove unto us the children of God in England that this forme of governing the Church and excommunicating by many presidents and go vernours together with the chiefe Minister of every congregation was given to the Churches in the time of Christ and his Apostles but only for that time and that therefore that form is now at an end and ceased or els it must be confirmed unto us that God hath in these dayes altered and changed his mind touching England and that hee hath by some new vision or revelation commanded the Reverend Bishops in these dayes to teach the Church of England that he will not have the same manner of Government used in the Church of England because it would be of most of his Children in England The opinion of some Learned men not sufficient for the Church of England to depart from the word contemned and of small force to bring to effect any good amendment of life in them for albeit all the Learned men in the world had declared as much in their workes set forth to the world as is here spoken of what were that to the children of God in England unlesse the same Learned men had taught unto us true learning from the mouth of God How much lesse are we bound to regard what only some Learned men of this age have declared unto us the same some Learned men having no warrant out of the holy Booke of God for such their Learning For if the declaration of some Learned men of this age in their workes set forth to the world may be a sufficient warrant to draw men from the way of truth then hardly let the declaration of Doctor Harding against the true use of the Lords Supper and then let the declaration of Osorius against justification by faith and the declarations of Bellarmine against diverse Articles of our Religion and the declaration of Doctor Allen against the execution of Justice in England and the declaration of Doctor Saunders a rebellious fugitive in the defence of the Popes Bull and the declaration of G. T. for the pretended Catholikes and lastly let the declaration of the Pope and his whole Clergy excommunicating our late Soveraigne Lady the Queen deceased bee received and listned unto For who can deny but that these men were some men and that these some men were also some learned men and who then seeth not the loosenesse the vanity the trifling and the toying of this argument The Argument following which the Admonitor would seeme Page 81. to let passe drawne from experience is of like quality For though experience as hee saith teach that men of stubbornnesse will not By excommunication of Pastors and Elders moe can not bee out of communion than in communion shun the company of such as bee excommunicated and though such men of stubbornnesse must be also as he saith excommunicated for keeping of company with them yet to affirme that by meanes of Pastourly and Elderly excommunication moe will bee excommunicated as being men of stubbornesse than in communion is a very grosse and palpable errour For we hold as the truth is that the greater part of the Church cannot be excommunicated by the lesser nor that many should be excommunicated by a few nor that a few should bee excommunicated by one of the Church And if the common union must necessarily consist of all or of the most part of the faithfull then is the lesser part alwayes out of this common union For what else is excommunication but extra communionem ejectio a casting forth of one or of moe persons from the common fellowship society and company of the faithfull The greatest part whereof and not the least are accompted to be the Church and to be in communion unlesse then the whole Church or the greater part of the Church having once cast out from among them one or moe adulterers blasphemers extortioners or such like
temporally as the other doth spiritually And certes it seemeth that the Admonitor was drawne very dry of reason when hee was faine to plucke this stake from the hedge to make a fire and to kindle the wrath of the Magistrate against the forme of Discipline by Pastors and Elders For whether hee intendeth that the Pastors and Elders will think themselves to have injury if they deale not in all causes of the Common-Weale as well as in all causes of their Churches or whether hee meant that the common people wâ—ll easily transferre the government of the Common-Weale from a Kingly Monarchie to a noble Aristocracie there is neither soothnesse nor soundnesse in his meaning For sithence the Leaâ—ned Ministers against the reverend Pastors disclaime to deale in civill matters Bishops by the holy rules of our faith maintaine that it is not lawfull for a Mâ—nister of the Gospell to exercise civill Magistracy and that it is not lawfull for the man of God to bee intangled with the affaires of this life how is it probable that those Ministers will easily oppugne their owne knowledge by their owne contrary practice Or how is it probablâ— that they would overleade themselves with that burthen to ease the Church whereof they have contentedly exposed themselves into a number of reproches contempts bytings and persecutions As for that other intendment of â—he Admonitors that it is gâ—eatly to bee feared that the common people will easily transferre Monarchy unto Democracie or Aristocracy if the principles and reason thereof by experience were made familiar in their mâ—nds this reason I say might seeme to carry some shew of affrâ—ghting a Monarch if the same were insinuated unto a King whose people were never acquainted with the Principles and reasons of Democracy or Aristocracy but this feare being insinuated unto our late Soveraigne Lady the Queene whose people ever since the time they first began to be a people have had their wits long exercised The people of England have their wits exercised with the sense of Democracy Aristocracy with the sense and feeling of the reasons and principles as well of Democracy as also of Aristocracy what sense had the Admonitor to urge this feare That in the Kingdome of England the common people have already the sense and feeling of the reasons and principles of Democracy cannot be denyed For in every cause almost as well of criminall as civill justice some few only excepted to be executed in the Common-Weale by the common lawes of the Realme have they not some hand and dealing in the same by one meane or other Nay which is more have they not the sense and feeling of the making and unmaking their own laws in Parliament And is not their consultations in Parliament a meere Democritall consultation As much also there is to be avowed for the sense and feeling of the reasons and principles of Aristocracy to be already in the minds of the Peers the Nobles the Iudges and other great men of the Realme For are not the Wisest the Noblest and the chiefest taken out of these by the King to be of his Counsell and to be Iudges and Iusticers in his Courts Yea and is not their Assembly also in Parliaments a meere Aristocraticall assembly And what translation then is there greatly to be feared out of the Church to be made into the Common-Weale when the minds of all sorts of our common wealthes men be already seasoned with the things which hee feareâ—h And when the Common-Weale is already seized of the Principles and reasons which he would not have familiarly knowne unto it Wherefore that the King the Nobles and Commons may no more be feared with the strangenesse of these uncouth and unknown Greeke names of Democracy and Aristocracy written in his booke with great and Capitall Letters I have thought it my duty by these presents to informe them that the government of the Church by Pastors and elders now wanting amongst us and desired to bee brought into the Church by the Soveraigne authority of our King Nobles and Commons in Parliament for the outward forme and manner thereof is none other manner of Government nor forme of policie than such as they and their Progenitors and Ancestors for many hundred yeares together without interruption have used and enjoyed in the Common-Weale And that therefore it will be a very easie matter to transferre the same to the government of the The manner of Policie by Pastors and Elders in the Church is agreeable to the government in the common weale The government of the Church by prelacy disagreeable to the government used in the common weale Church For by the reasons and principles of their owne government in the Common-weale and by the sense and feeling thereof they may well bee induced to thinke that they have injury if they have not as much to doe in matters of the Church as they have to doe in matters of the Common-Weale seeing they touch their commoditie and benefit spiritually as the other doth temporally And withall on the other side I shall doe my best endeavour to advertise them that the government of the Church by Prelacy is such a manner of Government as was never yet in the administration of justice by any subject no not touching the outward forme thereof once admitted into any part of Common-Weale and that therefore the same if it may please the King will very easily bee sent and transmarined unto Rome whence it first came and where it had it originall and birthright And to the end that wee may clearely discerne whether the nature of the Government of the Church by Prelacy or the nature of the Government desired to be planted by Pastors and Elders be more agreeable to the nature of the policy received and used both by the Nobles and common people in the Common-Weale it is necessary that the manners and formes both of Prelaticall and Pastorall Government bee made familiar unto the minde of the Reader And because wee have already declared the manner of the election and confirmation both of a Bishop into his Episcopall See and of a Minister into his Pastorall charge what the one is by the Law already established and what the other by a Law desired to be established ought to be wee will not any more speake of their entrance into either of their places unlesse onely a little to recreate the Reader we meerely note what answer some Bishops have made when as long chasing after Bishoprickes they have chafed in their mindes for feare of losing The answer of an Italian Bishop loth to lose his Bishopricke their prey as was the answer of that Italian Bishop who being thrice demanded of the Archbishop as the manner is vis Episcopari vis Episcopari vis Episcopari and being willed by one standing by thrice againe to answer as the manner is nolo nolo nolo Hee making nâ— bones at the matter answered aloud with an The answer of an
lawes doe uphold the state and authoritie of the Convocation house for the examination of all causes Matters of religion not concluded in parliament before the same bee consulted of in convocation of Religion surely it cannot be truly averred that it is necessarie for Evangelicall Bishops to be members of the Parliamenthouse lest controversie of Religion should bee handled and discussed without them For how should any matter of religion bee concluded without them in Parliament when first of all the same is to be argued among themselves in convocation Or let them hardly if they can shew any one instance of any change or alteration either from religion to superstition or from superstition to religion to have beene made in Parliament unlesse the same freely and at large have beene first agreed upon in their Synodes and Convocations And what booteth it then to have a double or treble consultation and consent of Archbishops and Bishops in parliament Is the holy cause of God any whit bettered by their Bishops riding from Pauls to Westminster Or can it receive any more strength by their walking from Westminster Church to Westminster palace Nay it hath beene often times so farre from being promoted by their bishops as not only in their convocations but also in the Queenes parliaments the same thing hath beene shamefully intreated and taken the foyle as may witnesle the bill for the better observation of the Sabboth 27. Eliz. which being passed by both houses of parliament was notwithstanding gainesaid and withstood by none so much as by certaine Evangelicall bishops and which as there all men generally conceived was only stayed from being made a law by the Queene upon their counsell and perswasion ADMONITION Pag. â—8 It hath beene alwayes daugerous to picke quarrels against lawes setled ASSERTION And is it not morbus haereditarius in Prelates to pick quarrels against reformation of errours For even this did Stephen Gardener Stephen Gardeners argument and the adâ—onitors argument in effect one reason against the Lord Protector That in no case saith Stephen Gardener is to be attempted of the Lord Protector which may bring both danger to him and trouble to the whole Realme But innovation of Religion from that state wherein K. Henry left it may be and is like to be dangerous to the Lord Protector and to baeed troubles to the whole Realme Therefore innovation of Religion from the state that K. Henry left it is in no wise to be attempted And even of this stamp and of this streyne is the argument of pickking quarrels against laws setled for thus in effect he argueth That Discipline in no case is to bee brought into the Church by the King and Parliament which may be dangerous to lawes setled But to bring into the Church the Apostolicall discipline may be dangerous to lawes setled Therefore the Apostolicall Discipline in no case is to be brought into the Church by the King and Parliament But forasmuch as that noble and religious Lord Protector notwithstanding Stephen Gardeners sophistry continued constant and couragious in the abolishment of popery and superstition which king Henry left and did without dangerous alteration of laws then setled innovate religion How much more now may the Kings Majestie the Lords and Commons in Parliament attempt with effect an innovation of that state of Ecclesiasticall government wherein the Queene left the Church And if it cannot be denyed but it had beene far more dangerous for the Realm and for the Lord Protector not to have setled the holy doctrine of the everlasting Gospell by Lesse danger to reforme the Church â—y nâ—w lawes than to câ—ntinue corruption by old laws new lawes than to have maintained and continued antichristianitie by old lawes how should it be lesse danger for the king in these dayes to continue corruptions in the Church by toleration of old lawes than to have the same corruptions reformed by establishment of new lawes But unto whom or unto what hath it beene dangerous to pick quarrells against lawes setled Wha hath it beene dangerous to lawes setled No. For how should lawes setled be indangered by quarrelers sithence quarrellers are evermore in danger of lawes setled Or hath it beene alwayes dangerous for a king for a State for a people or for a Countrey to pick quarrels against lawes setled No. For what man is he or what face carrieth he that dare upbraid a countrey a people a State or a King minding to unsettle evill lawes and evill customes to be quarrellers against lawes setled Let it then only be dangerous for private persons upon private male-contentment to pick quarrels against good lawes well and rightly setled and let it not be hurtfull or dangerous for supreme Kings powers and principalities by publike edicts to alter evill lawes evilly setled For to what other end should evill lawes evilly setled be continued but to continue evill And what a thing were that This argument then for lawes setled being the sophisme of that Fox Stephen Gardener is but a quarrelsome and wrangling argument ADMONITION If this government whereof they speake be as they say necessary Pag. 78. in all places then must they have of necessitie in every particular parish one Pastor a company of Seniors and a Deacon or two at the least and all those to be found of the parish because they must leave their occupations to attend upon the matters of the Church But there are a number of Parishes in England not able to finde one tolerable Minister much lesse to finde such a company ASSERTION This argument seemeth to be drawne from kitchin profit and is but a bugbegger to scarre covetous men from submitting their necks unto the yoke of that holy discipline which our Saviour Christ hath prescribed and which the Admonitor himselfe confesseth to have beene practised by the Apostles and primitive Church And yet because this argument seemeth to lay a very heavie burden on mens shoulders such as is impossible to be borne it is an argument worthy That seniours and Deacons should bee found at the charge of the Parish is absurd to be examined though in it self the same be very untrue and absurd For who did ever fancy that a Pastor a company of Seniours and a Deacon or two at the least should be men of occupations or that they should be all found of the parish because they must leave their occupations to attend upon the matters of the Church Why there be many hundreds of parishes in England wherein there dwelleth not one man of an occupation And what reason then or what likelyhood of reason was there to father such an absurd necessitie upon the Church As for the necessitie of having one Pastour in every partilar parish and of his finding by the parish because it is his duety to attend upon reading exhortation and doctrine although he bee no man of occupation this I say is agreeable and consonant to the government of the Church practised by