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A03691 An ansvveare made by Rob. Bishoppe of VVynchester, to a booke entituled, The declaration of suche scruples, and staies of conscience, touchinge the Othe of the Supremacy, as M. Iohn Fekenham, by vvrytinge did deliuer vnto the L. Bishop of VVinchester vvith his resolutions made thereunto. Horne, Robert, 1519?-1580.; Feckenham, John de, 1518?-1585. 1566 (1566) STC 13818; ESTC S104234 173,274 272

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man ought to be carefull to auoide Periury both in this al other matters euen so wise men may wel knowe what you meane by the conditional case ye put of the refusal by hir highnesse Successours of this Title whereto the Holy Ghost maketh you this plaine answere Spes Hypocritae peribit The Hypocrites hope shall perish You sprinkle this doubtful case with a powder of late experience which seasoneth your matter De facto non de Iure For it is not lawful for any christiā Prince to refuse this Supremacy which is the hest part of his princely Ministery seruice vnto God Neither may he more binde his subiectes by lawe to become sworne to the Pope and Popery than to the great Turke and Turkery For that the Pope is a more perillous ennemie vnto Christe than the Turke and Popery much more Idolatrous then Turkery And therfore there is no humaine authoritie that can dispēce with the violation of this lawful Othe made of duety vnto the Christian Prince This is a lamētable case I graunt that subiectes should lyue in cōtinual disobedience to the Lawes of the Prince whether it happen for that the Lawes be so vngodly that a Christian subiecte may not with good conscience obeye them experience whereof was of late made here in this Realme Or for that the stubbornesse of the subiect mainteyned with a wicked and yet a vaine hope be so stiffe that wilfully he lyueth in a continuall disobedience to the Godlye lawes of his soueraigne whereof experience is made nowe at this time in you and a fewe others of your conspiracy There is good cause why yee shoulde haue your very trust and hope as you say yee haue howe vngratiousely so euer yee thinke assured of the charitie of our Churche newly refourmed after the rule of Goddes woorde wherat yee Popishe swyne grunte groyne For you in your owne selfe haue perfecte experience that the Supreame gouernour vnder Christe of this Realme folowinge the example of hir heauenly Father dooth bountifully of hir goodnesse with muche more pacience and longe sufferinge allure you to dutifull repentance And hath further prouided sundry meanes and wayes whereby to remoue your wilfull ignorance and to endue you with sufficient knowledge of the trueth howe ye mighte with salfe conscience receiue this dutifull Othe of a true subiecte without all periury M. Fekenham HERE folovveth the Resolutions of the aforesaide Scruples made by my L. Bishop of VVinchester For a resolute ansvvere to all the saide Scruples expressed in the forenamed poinctes his L. saide that he did muche lamente that the right meaninge of the Othe had not beene in season opened and declared vnto me vvhan the onely lacke of the right vnderstandinge thereof hath beene the cause of such staies and distourbaunce of conscience VVhereas the Q. Maiesties meaninge in that Othe is farre othervvise than the expresse vvoordes are as they Lie Verbatim like as it doth vvell appeare by her Highnes interpretacion made thereof in her Iniunctions Thereunto my obiection vvas that vndoubtedly her Highnes did fully meane and minde to clayme and take all spirituall gouernement vppon her for besides the expresse vvoordes of the Othe vvherunto al men be bounde to svveare Verbatim ▪ as they Lie vvithout all chaunge and alteracion makinge of any vvoorde or sense thereof her highnes in the Interpretacion set foorth in her Iniunctions doth by very plaine vvoordes clayme the same spirituall gouernement here in this Realme of the Church of Englande that her Highnes Father Kinge Henry and her brother Kinge Edvvarde did enioye and clayme before her in the vvhiche Iniunctions and in the late Acte of Parliament also her Highnes dooth clayme no more spirituall gouernement nor no lesse but so muche in euery pointe as they had vvithout all exception For ansvveare his L. did still continue in the deniall thereof and that her highnes meaninge vvas not to take so muche of Spirituall authoritie and povver vppon her as they did vvith affirmacion that he did moste certainely and assuredly knovve her Highnes minde therein Then for some issue to be had of this matter seeynge that the meaninge of the Othe is not as the expresse vvoordes doo purport And seeynge that his L. did so vvell vnderstande her Highnes meaninge therein and thereby the very right sence thereof I besought him that his L. vvoulde take some paines for truethes sake to penne the same vvhereuppon his L. did penne and vvrite the interpretation of the saide Othe as hereafter follovveth I. A. B. do vtterly testifie and declare in my conscience that the Q. Highnes is the onely Supreme gouernour of this Realme and of all other her Highnes dominions and countreis asvvell in all Spirituall or Ecclesiasticall thinges or causes as Temporall That is to haue the soueraignty and rule ouer all manner personnes borne vvithin her Realmes dominions and countreys of vvhat estate either Ecclesiastical or Tēporal so euer they be And to haue authority and povver to visit the Ecclesiasticall estate and personnes to refourme order and correct the same and al maner errours heresies schismes abuses offences contemptes and enormities Yet neuertheles in no vvise meaning that the kings and Queenes of this Realme possessours of this crovvne may challēge authoritie or povver of ministerie of diuine offices as to preache the vvord of God to minister Sacramentes or rytes of the Churche appointed by Christ to the office of Church ministers to excōmunicate or to binde or lose Of the vvhich fovver pointes three belong only to the Ecclesiastical ministers the fourth is commen to them vvith the congregation namely to excōmunicate And that no forain Prince Persone Prelate State or Potentate hath or ought to haue any Iurisdiction Povver Superioritie preheminence or authoritie Eclesiastical or Spiritual vvithin this Realme And therefore I doo vtterly renounce al forein iurisdictions povvers superiorities proheminences and authorities That is as no Secular or Laie Prince other than the kings or Queenes possessours of the crovvne of this Realme of vvhat title or dignitie so euer they be hath or ought to haue any authoritie soueraintie or povver ouer this realme ouer the Prince or subiectes thereof Euen so no maner of forein Prelate or persone Ecclesiastical of vvhat titlie name so euer they be neither the sea of Rome neither any other sea hath or ought to haue vse enioy or exercise any maner of povver iurisdiction authoritie superioritie preheminence or priuilege Spiritual or Ecclesiastical vvithin this Realme or vvithin any the Q. Highnes dominions or coūtreis And therfore al such forein povver vtterly is to be renounced and I doo promise c. Vt sequitur in forma iuramenti The B. of Wynchester These that ye terme Resolutions are none of mine they are lyke him that forged them false feigned malitious They be your owne either ye could not or yée were ashamed to adioine my answeres to your séely obiections and therfore ye feigned me to vtter for resolutions your
the Kinge of the misorder of Thurstan whome the Kinge had made Abbot of Glastonbury by whose iudgement the Abbot was chaunged and tourned to his owne Abbay in Normandy but the Monkes scattered aboute by the Kinges hest After this the kinge bestowed many Bishoprikes on his Chaplaines as London Norwiche Chester Couentry c. And ruled both the Temporalty and the Spirytualty at his owne will saithe Polychronicon He tooke noman fro the Pope in his lande he meaneth that the Kinge woulde suffer no Legate to enter into the lande from the Pope but he came and pleased him he suffered no Councell made in his owne countrey without his owne leaue Also he woulde nothinge suffer in suche a councell but as he woulde assent So that in geuinge or translatinge of Spiritual promocions in geuing his assent to councels and suffring nothing to passe without his cōsent in hearing and determining Ecclesiasticall causes in restreining the Popes libertie without his speciall licence and in ruling the s●iritualtie at his owne wil king William sheweth plaine that he tooke him selfe for the supreame gouernour within this Realme in all maner of causes so well Ecclesiasticall as Temporall In like maner did his sonne William Rufus who made Anselme Bishoppe of Yorke and afterwardes translated him to Cantorbury But within a while strief and contention fell betweene him and Anselme for Anselme might not call his Synodes nor correct the Bisshops but as the king would the king also challenged the inuestiture of Bishoppes This king also forbad the paiyng of any money or tribute to Rome as saith Polychronicon The like inhibitiō made Henry the first and gaue Ecclesiasticall promocions as his auncestours had doone wherefore Anselme fel out with the king and would not consecrate suche Prelates as he beynge a Lay man had made but the Archebishop of Yorke did consecrate them and therefore Anselme fledde the Realme In an other councell at London the Spiritual condescended that the kinges officers should punishe Priestes for whoordome The cause of this decree as it seemeth was that a Cardinall named Ioannes Cremensis that came to redresse the matter after he had enueighed against the vice was him selfe the same nyght taken tardy In the whiche councell also saith Polydore the king prouided many thinges to bee enacted whiche shoulde greatly helpe to leade a Godly and blessed life After this the kinge called an other counsell at Sarisbury Sommoning thither so well the chief of the Clergie as the people and swore them vnto him and vnto William his sonne Whereupon Polydorus taketh occasiō to speake of the order of our Parliament though it haue a French name yet in deede to be a councell of the Clergy and the Laitie whereof the Prince hath a ful ratifiyng or enfringing voyce And not only saith he this king did make Bisshoppes and Abbottes whiche he calleth holy rites Lawes of Religion and Church ceremonies as other likewyse cal it Ecclesiasticall busines but the Princes of euery nation began euery where to claime this right vnto them selues of naming and denouncing of Bisshoppes the whiche to this daie they holde fast with toothe and nayle Also Martinus here noteth Vntill this time and from thence euen till our daies the king of Hungary maketh and inuestureth according to his pleasure Bisshops and other Ecclesiastical persones within his Dominions And here sithen I am entred into the noting of the practises of other countries in this behalfe I might not onely note the doinges about this time of Frederike king of Sicill and Iames the king of Spain his brother in reformation of Religion in their Dominions as appeareth in their Epistles writen by Arnoldus de noua Villa but also make a digression to the state of other partes in Christendom as of the Churches of Grece of Armenia of Moscouia c. that acknowledged not any but onely their Princes to be their supreme gouernours in all thinges next to Christe as especially also to note that most aunciēt part of Christendome southwarde in Aethyopia conteining 62. kingdomes vnder y e ruling of him whom we misname Presbyter Ioannes as who saye he were a Prieste and head Bishoppe ouer those Christian Realmes hauinge suche a power with them as the Popes vsurpation hath challenged here in Europe to be an head or vniuersall Priest and kinge If we may beleue Sabellicus who sayth that he hath bothe often talked with the marchauntes that haue their traffique there and hath also diuerse tymes enquired the matter by an interpretour of the inhabitauntes there borne they all saie that his name is neither Presbyter Ioannes nor Pretto Ianes but saye they his name is Gyā that is mightie and they marueile greatly what the Italians meane to call him by the name of Priesthoode But this they saie that all the suites or requestes euen of their greate Bisshoppes are brought before the kinge him selfe and that all their benefices or Spirituall promotions be obteined at his handes So that there beynge as Sabellicus telleth further an exceadinge great nomber of chiefe Prelates or Metropolitanes and vnder euery one Prelate at the least twenty Bishoppes all their sutes and causes Ecclesiasticall beyng brought vnto him and he the maker of all these Prelates Bishoppes and other Ecclesiasticall persones he is called ouer them all Clergie or Laye in all causes Ecclesiasticall or temporall Cyā the mightie that is the supreme Ruler and Gouernour and euen so hath continued sithen those partes were first Christened as they saye of Thomas Dydimus the Apostle vntill our time But this by the waye nowe from them to retourne to our owne countrey In England also king Stephan reserued to him self the inuestitures of the Prelates as likewise after him did Henry the seconde that made Thomas Becket Archebisshoppe of Cantorburie who thereat was sworne to the kinge and to his Lawes and to his Sonne In the ninth yeere of his reigne this kinge called a Parliament at Northampton where he entended reformation of many priuileges that the Clergie had and amongest these was one that although one of the Clergie had committed felonie murder or treason yea● might not the kinge put him to death as he did the Laye menne The whiche thinge with many other the kinge thoughte to redresse in the saide Parliament Thomas Becket resisted him but he mighte not praeuayle againste the kinge For well neere all the Bisshoppes of Englande were against him In the 17 ▪ ●ere of his reigne the king made a iourney into Ireland wherewith great trauaile he subdued the Iris he and after with the helpe of the Primate of Ar●●ch he refourmed the manners of the people and dwellers in that countrey and that in three thinges especially ●irst in rulinge and orderinge of the Churche by the Curates and howe they shoulde order their diuine Seruice and minister the Sacrament of matrimonie as it was in Englande and other Christian Regions The seconde was howe
that the Laye people shoulde behaue them selues towardes their Curates and in what wise they shoulde paie and offer to God their tithes The thirde was for making of their testamentes In Germany succeded vnto Frederike Henry and next vnto him Philip both of them inuesturing Bishops and suffering no Legates from Rome to come into Apulia nor Sicilia according to the aforesaide composition Next to whom succeded Otto surnamed of the Clergie the defendour of Iustice for where as the manner of Princes was saith Abbas Vrspurgens cheerfully and readily to geue benefices or Churches to those that did first aske them he woulde no● so doo but he gaue all the benefices that fell as well Ecclesiasticall as Secular to those with whom he was acquainted c. This Emperour came into Italy claimed and recouered al the right of the Empire that the Pope vsurped vnder the name of S. Peters patrimony and called a Synode at Norinberge about this matter and touching the Popes authoritie In England as Henry his father had doon before him so folowed king Richard in geuing Ecclesiastical promotions in calling councel● ordering other Ecclesiasticall matters yea euē in his absence being in Syria by one that represented his persone therin the B. of Ely who called and made a councel at westminster as the kings procuratour and the Popes Legate and spake by the kinges power But in this matter kyng Iohn did more thē any of his predecessours which purchased him muche hatred with the Pope and his Monkes In this while the Frenche kinge helde a Councell at Cenomannia in Turon And after him Kinge Lewes did celebrate a solemne coūcell at Paris whereat was praesent the Popes Legates In whiche time was Frederike the. 2. Emperour out of doubt saith Auentinus an other Charles the great and without all controuersie most pr●fitable for the Christian common wealth whiche not onely helde the priuileges aforesaide in Apulia and Sicilia but in all his dominions and about this mater tamed diuer Popes called and kepte diuerse Councelles aswel by his Sonnes as by him selfe ordeined certaine Ecclesiasticall lawes againste diuerse Heretiques condemninge their heresies and appointing how they should be ordered ordeininge likewise many priuileges for Ecclesiasticall personnes In whiche time Henry the. 3. Kinge of Englande helde a solemne Councell in the whiche bothe by the sentence of the Kinge and of the Princes not a fewe priuileges were taken away from the order of priesthoode at what time the Popes Legate required a tribute of all the Cleargy but it was denied him Robert Grosthed whome yée call S. Robert wrote vnto the Pope a sharpe Episile bicause he greeued the Churche of Englande with ●askes and paymentes against reason of whiche when he sawe no redresse he with other Prelates of the lande complained vnto the Kinge of the wass of the goodes and patrimonie of the Churche by the Popes neare kinseman and other alient Bisshoppes whome the Kinge auoyded out of the Realme To whome also the Emperour Frederike wrote that it was a shame for him to suffer any longer his Realme to be oppressed with the Popes tiranny Lewes the Frenche kynge called S. Lewes who as Antoninus saith was so instructed euen from his infancie in all the wisedome of diuine and good orders that there was not founde his like ▪ that kept the lawe of the high God c. made a lawe againste th●●e that blasphemed the name of the 〈◊〉 adioyninge a penaltie of a whoteyron to be printed in the transgressours forehead Also in the yeere of the Lorde 1228. He made a Lawe againste the Popes fraudes concerninge the preuentions and reseruations of the reuenues and dignities Ecclesiasticall complayninge that the Pope had pulled from him the collations of all Spirituall promotions ordeininge that from hence foorth the election of Bisshoppes Prelates and all other what so euer shoulde be free forcible and effectuall to the electours patrones and collatours of them Also the same yeere he set foorth an other Lawe againste Simonie complaininge of the bioyng and sellinge of Ecclesiasticall dignities He made also certaine godly Lawes againste whoredome and Fornication Laste of all in the yéere of the Lorde 1268. he set foorth the Lawe commonly called Pragmatica Sanctio wherein amongest other Ecclesiasticall matters againste the Popes pollinges he saithe thus Item in no case we will that exactions or greuous burdens of money beinge laide on the Churche of our Kingedome by the Courte of Rome whereby our kingedome is miserably impouerished be leuied or gathered nor any hereafter to be layde excepte onely for a reasonable godly and moste vrgent cause of necessitie that can not be auoided and that the same be doone by our expresse biddinge and commaundement of our owne accorde Conradus Conradinus and Manfredus still kepte the priuilege of the foresaide Ecclesiasticall matters in Sicilia and Apulia Shortly after this time Charles the Kinge of Sicilia and Apulia had all or most of the dooing in the election and makinge of diuerse Popes as of Martyn 4. Celestyn 5. Bonyface 8. c. Edwarde the firste Kinge of Englande aboute this time made the Statute of Northampton So that after that time noman shoulde geue neither sell nor bequeath neither chaunge neither bye title assigne landes tenementes neither rentes to no man of Religion without the Kinges leaue whiche acte sence that time hath beene more straightly enacted and diuised with many addicions thereunto augmented or annexed The whiche Lawe saithe Polydore he made bicause he was Religionis studiosissimus c. moste studiouse of Religion and moste sharpe enemie to the insolency of the Priesies At this time Philip le Beau the Frenche Kinge beganne his reigne brought vp in the studie of diuinitie vnder Aegidius the Romaine diuine by whose admonitions and also of other diuines the Kinge beinge instructed in his duety aboue al other thinges endeuoured him selfe aboute the reformation of Religion and orderinge of Ecclesiasticall matters Whereuppon lookinge to the state of the Cleargy he deposed a certaine Bishoppe for Heresie and gaue his Bishoprike to an other and besides claymed the inuestiture of all other Bishoppes in his dominions and callinge Councelles at home in his owne Realme woulde suffer none of his Cleargy to goo to the Popes Councelles He caused the Popes Bulles to be burned He commaunded the Popes Legates to auoyde his realme He commaunded that no money shoulde be caried out of the Realme to the Pope He sette foorth a Lawe that no man should goo to Rome out of his kingedome He called a Councell at Paris and caused to be gathered thither all the Prelates and Barons of Fraunce to iustifie his dooinges He shewed vnto them why he tooke vppon him to call a Councell He enueighed againste the Pope for Heresie Symonie Homicide Pride Ambition c. and that of righte he ought therefore to be deposed He demaundeth of the
Electiōs reseruations expectatiues Annates vnfit pastours pardons tythes the spiritual courtes c. beseching him to haue some redresse herein Who being moued with the admonitions aduisementes and exhortatiōs of the learned Clergy the godly Princes at the length called a councel at Triers Colayn for the redresse of these and other enormities in the yere of the Lorde 1512. whiche was the fourth yere of the reigne of the moste renoumed kinge of England king Henry the eight In this councel amongest other thinges bicause there was a suspicion of a Schisme breedinge and of greuaunces in the Church it was necessarily decreed that the Emperour and Princes electours with other Princes and states of Thempire should loke about them and wel consult by what meanes these greeues might be taken away most commodiously and the Schisme remoued and euill thinges reformed to edification It was decreed also against blasphemours to paie either a somme of money limited or to suffer death And that all men should know this decree it was thought good to the Princes and states of the Empire that al preachers and persones should at all high feastes preache vnto the people thereof faithfully This being doon Maximilian set forth a decrée for y e takinge away of the forsaid Ecclesiastical greuaunces wherein he declareth that though of clemency he haue suffered the Pope the Clergy herein as did his father Frederik Yet not withstanding sith that by his liberalitie the worshippe and seruice of God hath fallen to decaie it apperteineth vnto his dutie whome God hath chosen vnto the Emperial throne of Rome that amongest all other moste great businesses of peace and warres that he also looke about him vigilantly that the Churche perishe not that Religion decaie not that the worship of the seruice of God be not diminished c. In consideration wherof he prouideth that a man hauing in any citie a Canonship or Vicarship enioy not any prehende of an other Churche in the same citie c. making other decrées against suing in the Ecclesiasticall courtes for benefices for defence of Lay mens patronages for pensions against bulles and cloked Symony c. After this the Emperour Lewes the French king concluded together to call a general coūcel at Pise to the whiche also agreed a great part of the Popes Cardinals Many saith Sabellicus began to abhorre the Popes Courtes saying that all thinges were there defiled with filthy lucre with monstruous and wicked lustes with poysoninges Sacrileges murders and Symoniacall fayers and that Pope Iulius him selfe was a Symoniake a dronkarde a beaste a worldling and vnworthely occupied the place to the distruction of Christendome and that there was no remedy but a generall Councell to be called to helpe these mischiefes to the whiche his Cardinalles accordinge to his othe desired him but they coulde not obteyne it of hym Maximilian the Emperour being the authour of it with Lewes the Frenche king bicause the histories doo beare recorde that in times past the Emperours of Rome had wont to appointe councels they appointe a councell to be holden at Pyse Maximilian the Emperour Lewes the French king and other Princes beyonde the seas were not more carefully bent and moued by their learned men to refourme by their authoritie the abuses about Church matters thā was king Henry the eight at the same time king of Englande of most famous memory who following the hūble suites and petitions of his learned Clergy agreynge thereupon by vniforme confent in their conuocation toke vpon him that authoritie and gouernement in all maner matters or causes Ecclesiasticall which they assured him to belonge vnto his estate both by the worde of God and by the auncient Lawes of the Churche and therfore promised vnto him in verbo sacerdotii by their priesthood not to do any thing in their councelles wiehout his assent c. And this Clergie was not onely of Diuines but also of the wysest moste expert and best learned in the Ciuil and Canon Lawes that was than or hath been sence as D. Tonstal Bishop of Duresme D. Stokesley B. of Londō D. Gardiner Bishop of Wynton D. Thirleby Bishop of Westminster and after of Norwiche your olde maister D. Bonner who succeded Stokesley in the sea of Londō and many others by whose aduise consent there was at that time also a learn●d booke made published De vera differentia Regiae potestatis Ecclesiasticae whiche I doubt not but yée haue séen longe sythen Neither was this a newe deuise of theirs to please the king with al or their opinion onely but it was and is the iudgement of the moste learned Cyuilians and Canonystes that when the Cleargie are faultie or negligent it apperteyneth to the Emperour to call generall councelles for the reformation of the Churche causes as Philippus Decius a famous Lawyer affirmeth And the Glossator vppon this Canon Principes affirmeth that the Princes haue iurisdiction in diuers sortes within the Churche ouer the Cleargie when they be stubbourne ambitious subuerters of the faith falsaries makers of Schismes contemners of excommunication yea also wherein so euer the Ecclesiasticall power faileth or is to weake as in this Decree He meaneth where the power of the Churche by the woorde of doctrine preuaileth not therein must the Princes authoritie and iurisdiction take order for that is the plaine prouiso in the decrée The woordes of the decree are as followe The seculer Princes haue oftentimes within the Churche the highest authoritie that they may fence by that power the Ecclesiasticall discipline But within the Churche the powers of Princes shoulde not be necessary sauinge that that thinge whiche the Priestes are not able to dooe by the woorde of doctrine the power of the Prince may commaunde or obtaine that by the terrour of discipline The heauenly kingedome dooth oftentimes preuaile or goo forwarde by the earthly kingedome that those whiche beinge within the Churche doo against the faith and discipline may be brought vnder by the rigour of Princes and that the power of the Princes may lay vppon the neckes of the proude that same discipline whiche the profite of the Churche is not hable to exercise and that he bestowe the force of his authoritie whereby to deserue woorship Let the Princes of the worlde well knowe that they of duety shall rendre an accompte to God for the Churche whiche they haue taken of Christe to preserue For whether the peace and discipline of the Churche be encreased by faithfull Princes or it be loosed He doth exact of them an accompt who hath deliuered his Churche to be committed to their power To this effect also writeth Petrus Ferrariensis a notable learned man in y e Lawes saying Thou ignorant man thou oughtest to know that the Empire the Emperour ones in times past had bothe the swoordes to witte bothe the Temporall and Spirituall in so much that the Emperours then bestowed all the Ecclesiasticall
Churche commaunded that no Legate of the Churche of Rome shoulde be suffred to entre into Germany with out he were called or hyred of the Emperour nor woulde suffer that any man vnder the maner of appellation shoulde goo vnto the Courte of Rome After the death of Adrian the fowrth the Cardinals fel out amongest them selues for the Election of a newe Pope some stryuinge to haue Rowlande other some cōtendinge to haue Octauian a man saith Vrspurg in all pointes honest and Religious Herevpon sprange an horrible Schisme and greate discorde Rowlande sent his Legates to the Emperour Fredericus 1. and desired him that he woulde take vp and ende this contention by his authoritie The Emperour commaundeth them both to come vnto him at Ticinum where foorthwith he sommoned a coūcell to be holden about this matter mindinge to examine bothe their causes and by searchinge to trye whose cause was the more honest Rowlande beynge afraide to haue the matter come to this tryall getteth him to William of Sicilia the Emperours mortall enemie and within twelue daies putteth on his Cope and nameth him selfe Alexander for he purposed béelyke to make a conquest of the matter He alleaged his ellection to be good out of al doubte and that he sente for the Emperours ayde and not for his arbytrement and therefore thought not good to bringe his case into doubtfull question The Emperour beynge offended with him for that he woulde not obey his appoinctement sente twoo Bishops to cite him to come vnto the Councell by the name of Cardinall and not Pope But Rowlande refused confutinge their Citacion with this Maxime or Principle Romanum Pontificem a nemine iudicari debere the Pope ought not to be iudged of any man But whē these Legates from the Emperour came to Octauiā he straight ways obeied theybrought him to Papia Vrspur saith that Rowlande was oftentimes monished to come and did contemne all those monitions The Emperour satte in the Councell as Radeuicus Frisingensis who wrote his actes witnesseth and made an oration vnto the Bishoppes wherein he declareth and that by the example of his auncestours Constantinus Theodosius Iustinianus and of later time of Carolus Magnus and other that the power and authoritie to call Councelles where the Churche is troubled with any schismes or other perillous distourbance belongth to the Emperour Notwithstandinge he committed the difininge of the controuersie to their wisedome and gaue them thereunto authoritie The councell debateth the cause consulteth with men learned in the lawe and so concludeth that Octauians election was good and adiudgeth him to be the right Bishop of Rome When they had thus tryed out the matter ●redericus the Emperour saith Platina Confirmat Octauianum Pontificem Confirmed Octauian Pope The Emperour within a while after sente Octauianus new confirmed Pope towardes Rome who dyed in the iourney After whose death the Emperour called an other councel at Wirtzberge as Auentinus writeth wherein were a greate number of Archebishoppes and other Bishoppes and also may of the nobles and states of the Empyre In this Councell a statute or Decree was made by common consente That from hencefoorth none shoulde be Pope onelesse he were created by the consent of the Emperour accordinge as the custome had bene of longe and auncient time This worthy Emperour whom the Chroniclers call Christianissimum moste Christian for his zeale towardes Goddes Churche endeuored not without great perill to him selfe and his estate to reteine the iurisdiction due to the Princes and thereby to refourme the horrible disorders that were growen so highe that they ouerwhelmed the Churche as in lyke sorte diuers other Emperours and Kinges bothe before and after had attempted but in vayne for the wealthy pride the fierce power and trayterous treachery of the Pope and his Prelates was so mighty violent and subtile that there was no earthly power able to withstande or matche with them And therfore Erasmus compteth the Popes of this time and those that folowed to be the Vicars and successours of Iulius Caesar of Alexander the the great of Croesus the ryche and of ●erxes the mighty rather then of Christe the onely Emperour gouernour of the Churche Bernarde calleth Eugenius 3. in his great pompe and pride rather the successour of Constantinus the highe Emperour then of Peter the humble Apostle And Abbas Vrspurg who lyued at this time when the Popes had spoyled the Emperour and other Princes welnighe of all iurisdiction rulinge all by theyr owne Decretalles nowe aboute this time set foorth as they listed maketh a lamentable complainte of the horrible pryde and couetousnesse of the whole clergie and concludeth with these woordes Gaude mater nostra Roma c. Reioyce O our mother Rome bycause the scluses of the hidden treasures in the earthe are opened that riuers and heapes of money maye flowe vnto thee in great abundance Be glad of the iniquitie of the sonnes of men bicause money is geuen to thee for the recompence of so great euilles Be mery and iocund for discordes sake which is thy helper bicause she is rushte out of the infernal pit that plētiful rewardes of money might be heaped vpō the thou hast that which thou hast alwaies thyrsted after synge pleasant balades for through mennes malitiousnesse not by thy Godlinesse thou hastouercome the worlde About this time the kinge of Cicilia and Apulia had a dispensation from the Pope for money to Inuesture Archebishoppes or Bishoppes with staffe or crosier rynge palle myter sandalles ●r slippers and that the Pope mighte sende into his dominions no Legate onlesse the kinge shoulde sende for him Our Englishe Chroniclers make report that the Kynges of this Realme hadde not altogeather leafte of their dealinge in Churche matters but continued in parte their Iurisdiction aboute Ecclesiastical causes although not without some trouble The Popes Legate came into Englande and made a councell by the assent of kinge William the Conquerour And after that in an other Councell at Winchester * were put downe many Bisshops Abbottes and Priours by the meanes and procurement of the Kinge The kinge gaue to Lanfranke the Archbisshoprike of Cantorb and on our Lady day the Assumption made him Archebishop On whit Sonday he gaue the Archbishoprike of Yorke vnto Thomas a Canon of Bayon When Thomas should haue béene consecrated of Lanfranke there fell a strife betwixt them about the liberties of the church of Yorke The controuersie beinge about Churche matters was brought and referred to the Kinges iudgement and Thomas by the Kinges commaundement was faine to come againe to Lanfranke to be sacred And afterwarde when there grew greater contention betwixt these twaine about Churche matters the Bishop of Rome remitted the matter to be determined before the Kinge and the Bisshoppes of Englande and so at Windesour before kinge VVilliam and the Cleargy the cause was treated Also an other cause was mooued before
Councell vnto whome they be lawfully sworne and of whome they haue receiued their dignities They all answeare that they are all the beneficiaries of him alone and that mindefull of their Faith and the Kinges estate they woulde suffer death for his glory power and saulfegarde Thereuppon he setteth foorth a pragmaticall sanction or forceable lawe to diminis he the dignitie of the Pope Many other Ecclesiasticall Lawes he made againste the Iewes againste the Templars against adulterie c. He made also Clement the fifth Pope and swore him to certaine cōdicions before hande by whose importune meanes also the Generall councell of Vienna was holden In whiche Councell he laboured to haue Pope Boniface condemned for an Heretique affirminge that he woulde proue him so But the mater was taken vp and to satisfie the kinge it was decreed that all the processes of Bonifacius against the kinge were vniust and the kinges doinges in any point against the Pope should not be preiudicial to him or to his heyers About the time of this Councell at Vienna the famous schooleman Durandus setteth foorth a booke wherein as he rekeneth vp diuerse and great enormities in Church matters so for the reformacion of them he alwaies ioyneth the kinge and secular Princes and the Prelases and to this purpose citeth the fourme of the auncient Councelles and many times enueigheth against and complaineth vppon the vsurped authoritie of the Romaine Bishop warninge men to beware how they yéelde vnto him and prescribeth a rule for the Princes and the Prelates to refourme all these enormities not by custome were it neuer so auncient but by the woorde of God About this time also the Emperour Henry the. 7. came into Italy with great power to reduce the Empyre to the olde estate and glory of the auncient Emperours in this behalfe And on the day of his coronation at Rome accordinge to the maner of other Romaine Emperours he set foorth a Lawe or newe authentique of the most high Trinitie and the Catholique faith Nexte to Henry 7. was Lewes 4. Emperour who had no lesse but rather greater conflictes with the Popes in his time about the reformation of abuses than any had before him the Pope nowe claiminge for an Ecclesiastical matter the confirminge of the Emperour as before the Emperours were wonte to confirme the Popes About whiche question the Emperour sent and called many learned Clerkes in Diuinitie in the Ciuill and Canon Lawe from Italy Fraunce Germany Paris and Bononia whiche all aunswered that the Popes attemptes were erronious and derogating from the simplicitie of the Christian Religion Whereupon the Emperour willed them to searche out the matter diligently and to dispute vpon it and to gather into bookes their mindes therein whiche diuers did as Marsilius Patauinus Ockam Dantes Petrarche c. By whome whan the Emperour vnderstoode the Popes vsurpation he came to Rome called a councell and deposed the Pope placed an other in his rowme In whiche councell the Romaines desired to haue their olde order in the Popes election ratified by the Emperour to be renewed This Emperour also called avery great coūcell at Frākeforth where besides the Spirituall and Secular Princes of Germany the kinge of Englande and the king of Beame were present where by the greater and sounder part the Popes aforesaid vsurpation was abolished Which sentence the Emperour confirmed and published writing therof that his authoritie dependeth not of the Pope but of God immediatly and that it is a vaine thinge that is wont to be saide the Pope hath no superiour The Actes of this councell against the Popes processe were ratified by the Emperour as appeareth by his letters patentes thereupon beginning thus Lodouike the fourth by the grace of God c. To all Patriarches Archebisshoppes Bisshoppes and Priestes c. and ending thus VVherfore by the councell and consent of the Prelates and Princes c. VVe denounce and determine that all suche processes be of no force or moment and straightly charge and commaunde to all that liue in our Empire of what estate or condition so euer they be that they presume not to obserue the said sentences and curses of the Popes interdiction c. An other Councell he called afterwardes at the same place about the same matter bicause Pope Clement called it Heresy To saie that the Emperour had authoritie to depose the Pope whiche heresy as principal he laide first to the Emperours charge Item that the Emperour affirmed that Christ and his Apostles were but poore Item the. 3. heresy that he made and deposed Bysshops Item that he neglected the Popes interdightmēt c. Item that he ioyned certaine in mariage in degrees forbidde he meaneth forbidden by the Popes Lawes and deuorceth them that were maried in the face of the Churche Whiche in deede was nothing els but that amōgest other Ecclesiastical lawes that the Emperour set forth were some for mariages and deuorcementes contrary to the Popes decrees In Fraunce king Charles denied the Pope the tenthes of his Clergie But Philip de Valoys that followed reformed and tooke away many late vpstart Ecclesiasticall abuses in the Clergy and Prelates in his Realme of the whiche diuerse complaintes being made vnto the king he called a councel at Paris and sommoned thither the Bishoppes as appeareth by his letters wherein he complaineth that they haue enchroched from him and his officers a great many of rightes bringing in their nouelties not due and vnwonted grieues vnder the pretence of Ecclesiastical causes whereby they haue broken the concorde of the Clergie and the Laity and therfore willing to prouide so muche as he can by Goddes helpe an healthfull remedy He requireth and neuerthelesse commaundeth them to appeare before him at Parys personally c. The Prelates appearing at the daye assigned before the kinge in his Palayce Archebisshoppes Bisshoppes and makinge reuerence to the kinges maiestie being set downe with his councell and certeine Barons assisting him a certeine knight of the kinges councell spake publykely for the kinge in the presence of them all takinge for his theme this texte Geue that vnto Caesar that belongeth to Caesar and that vnto God that is due vnto God c. The kinges admonition being made a great many complaintes were put vp vnto the king by his nobles and officers against the Clergies vsurpation in medling with contractes of mariages in their priuileges of Clerkes In citations to their Courtes in their excommunicatiōs in willes and hereditamentes in callinge of prouinciall councelles in making synodall Decrees and statutes in medling with realties in perēptory writes in examinations of mens beleues in enioyning of money penances In shauing of children and vnlauful persons making thē Clerkes in whoordome and fornication in wyddowes goodes in bloudshead in the Churcheyarde in inuentories c. and in a great many mo matters whiche ye call Spirituall or Ecclesiasticall causes the
Frenche kynge prouing them to be as in deede they were no other but temporall neuerthelesse not standinge muche about the name nor taking them all away from their iurisdiction he onely said he would reforme them Neuerthels for certeine daies there was muche disputing to and fro whether they belonged to the kinge to reforme or no till the king by his foresaide procuratour gaue them the kinges determinat aunswere declaring vnto them howe that they ought not to be troubled bicause the kinges intention was to keepe those rightes and customes of the Churche and Prelates which were good and reasonable but by reason of their faults the iudgement whiche were good and reasonable apperteined not vnto thē to determine but to the king Bicause the Decree Nouit c. saieth that the kinge of Fraunce in matters de Facto hath not his superiour c. VVhereuppon hee concluded that the kinge woulde heare all the informations And those Customes of the whiche he shoulde be fully enfourmed that they were good and reasonable he woulde make onely to bee obserued In cōclusion the Prelates made such importune labour that the forsaide attourney aunswered them for the kinge that if the Prelates themselues would amende those thinges that were to be amended and corrected the king would abide till the feaste of the Natiuitie next to come within whiche terme he woulde innouate nothing but if within the saide terme the Prelates had not amended those thinges that were to be amended and corrected that then the kinge would put to suche remedy as should be acceptable to God and the people Whiche in conclusion the king was faine to do by a sharpe seuere Lawe whan he sawe howe the Prelates dallied him of with faire wordes and therefore he him selfe Composuit rem sacerdotum did set in order the matters of the Priestes In England at this time many abuses about Ecclesiasticall causes were reformed although the Pope his Clergie did earnestly mainteine them by king Edwarde the. 3. who wrote his letters to y ● Pope admonishing him to leue of his disordered doinges whan that woulde not serue he redressed them by act of parliament and as Nauclerus saith he commaunded that from thenceforth no body shoulde bring into the Realme any kinde of the Popes letters vnder the paine of drowning and expelled all persones out of his kingdom that weare by the Pope promoted to any benefice Next to Lewes was Charles the. 4. chosen Emperour who helde a councel at Mentze with y e Prelates Princes in the yere of the Lorde 1359. wherein he much reproued the Popes Legate for his disorders and commaunded the Archbishop of Mentze to reforme his Clergie and the disorders amongest them for otherwise he woulde see to it him selfe The Popes Legate seyng howe the Emperour tooke vpon him gate him to his shippe and saylled to Colayn as one that fledde awaye With whiche doynges the Emperour became very famouse for he was a man of great workes who dyd lyghten the kyngdome of Boheme bothe with the the settinge foorth of Religion and with the discipline of Lawes and good manners At this time wrote Nilus the Bishoppe of Thessalonica declaringe the onely cause of the diuision betwéene the Gréeke and the Latine Churche to be for that the Pope will not suffer frée and generall Councelles to be called by the Emperours accordinge to the auncient custome that his authoritie is not by the Lawe of God but by the positiue Lawes of Princes graunted onely because that than Rome was the greatest Citie in the worlde and hath no prerogatiue of Christ or Peter more than any other Bishoprike Kinge Richarde the. 2. called a Councell at VVestminster saith Polydore wherein it was thought good to the Kinge and the Princes for the weale of his realme of Englande if a parte of the Popes authoritie were bounded within the limites of the Occean sea he meaneth that it were driuen out of the Isle of Britaine wherfore it was decreed that hereafter it shoulde be lawfull to no man to trie any cause before the Bishop of Rome nor that any man be publikly pronounced wicked or enemy of Religion that is to wit as the common people terme it be excommunicate by his authoritie nor that if any man haue any suche commaundement from him they execute the same The penaltie ordeined to those that violate this lawe was that losinge all his goodes he shoulde be caste into perpetuall pryson The Churche of Rome at this time was maruailously torne in sunder with an horrible Schisme whiche continued about xl yéeres hauinge at ones thrée heades callinge them selues Popes euery one of them in moste despitefull wise calling the other Antichrist Schismatique Heretique tiraunt thiefe traytour the sonne of perditiō sower of Cockle the childe of Belial c. diuerse learned men of that time inueighed against them all thrée as Henricus de Hassia 10. Cerson Theodorych Nyem secretary before this to Pope Boniface who prooueth at lardge by good reasons by the woorde of God and by the Popes decrées that the refourmation of these horrible disorders in the Churche belonge to the Emperour and the secular Princes Sigismunde the noble Emperour vnderstandinge his duetie herein amongest other his notable actes called a Councell togeather at Constantia and brought againe to vnitie the Churche deuided in three partes whiche Councell saithe Nauclerus beganne by the Emperours commaundement and industry in the yeere 1414. To the whiche Councell came Pope Iohn before the Emperours comminge thinkinge to haue outfaced the Councell with his pretensed authoritie till the Emperour came who geuinge to all men in the Councell free libertie to speake their mindes a great companie of horrible vices were laide streight way to his chardge To the whiche when he was not hable to answeare he was deposed and the other twoo Popes also and an other chosen chiefly by the Emperours meanes called Martyn the. 5. After these thinges finished they entred into the communication of a reformation bothe of the Cleargie and the Layty to whiche purpose the Emperour had deuised a booke of Constitucions and also willed certaine learned Fathers there but specially the Bishoppe of Camera a Cardinall there presente to deuise what faultes they coulde finde and how they shoulde be redressed not sparinge any dégrée neither of the Prelates nor of the Princes them selues Whiche the Bishoppe did and compiled a litle booke or Libell entituled a Libell for reformation of the Churche gathered by Peter de Aliaco c. and offered to the Churche rulers gathered togeather in Constaunce Councell by the commaundement of the Emperour Sigismonde c. In this Libell of reformation after he hath touched the notable enormities in the Pope in the Courte of Rome in the Cardinalles in the Prelates in Religious personnes and in Priestes in exaction in Canons and Decretalles incollations of benefices in fastinges in the diuine seruice in Piaures in
Agbarus affirmeth that he was no infidel or idolatour saying Beatus es quòd in me credidisti cùm non videris me Agbare thou art blessed bicause thou hast beleued in me when thou hast not seen me Besides this your owne selfe haue affirmed oftentimes and so doth your Popishe tales declare that the three wise men that came forth of the East to worship the newe borne king of the Iewes were kinges and lie buried in the great doom at Colain as the Colonistes make men to beleue called yet amongst the vulgar Papistes the three kinges of Colayn If there be any credite to be geuen to the narracion of Eusebius and Nicephorus touching Agbarus king of Edessa and to the commonly receiued opinion of your Popishe Churche concerning the three kinges of Colayn these fower were kings in the time of Christes aboade here in earth and yet not idolatours nor infidels all the whole time of Christes aboade here but faithfull worshippers of Christ Whereby the former part of the matter in the antecedēt of your argument is disproued Neither is that true whiche you put in the seconde part that the Emperours and kinges cōtinued idolatours for y e space of 300. yeres after Christꝭ Assention For although for the moste part during that space they were suche yeat was there in that time some godly Princes that were otherwise geuen Eusebius in his Ecclesiasticall history maketh mention of one Philippus a moste Christian Emperour of whom and his sonne also being Emperour with him Abbas Vrspurgensis witnesseth that they were the first of all the Romaine Emperours that became Christians who also declared by their déedes and workes as Abbas saieth that they had in them the feare of God and the moste perfect Christian faith Constantinus also the Emperour father to Constantine the great did moste diligently of all others séeke after Gods fauour as Eusebius writeth of him He did prouide by his gouernement that his subiectes did not onely enioy great peace and quietnes but also a pleasant conuersation in holines and deuocion towardes God Idolatours and dissemblers in Religion he banished out of his Court and suche as confessed Goddes truthe he re●eined and iudged moste worthy to be about an Emperour commaunding suche to 〈◊〉 the guarde both of his persone and dominion He serued and worshipped the onely true God He condemned the multitude of Goddes that the wicked had He fortified his house with the praiers of holy and faithfull men and he did so consecrate his Court and Palaice vnto the seruice of God that his housholde company was a congregacion or Churche of God within his palaice hauing Goddes mynisters and what s●●uer is r●quisit for a Christian Congregation ▪ Polidor●● in his history of Englande affirmeth also of this Emperour that he studied aboue all other thinges to encrease the Christian Religion who after his death was rekened in the nomber of sainctes To these fewe adde Lucius a king of our owne countrey who although he was not in might cōparable to Constantine the mighty Emperour yet in zeale towardes God in abolishing idolatry and false Religion in winning and drawing his subiects by all meanes to the Christian faith in mainteining and defendinge the sincere Christianitie to the vttermoste of his power he was equall with Constantine and in this point did excell him that he longe before Constantine brake the Ise gaue the onsette and shapte a patern for Constantine to followe whereby to worke that in other partes which he had achieued within his owne dominiō This noble king of very loue to true Religion as Polydore testifieth of him Procured him selfe and his subiectes to be Baptised caused his nation to be the first of all other Prouinces that receiued the Ghospell pupliquely did drawe his people to the knowledge of the true God banisshed at ones all maner of prophane worshipping of Goddes and commaunded it to be lefte Conuerted the tempels of the Idolatours to be Churches for the Christians And to be short he emploied and did bestowe all his seruice and power moste willingly to the furtheraunce and encrease of the Christian Religion whiche he planted moste sincerely throughout his countrey and so lefte it at his death almoste an hundreth yeres before Constantine was Emperour and therefore vntruely sayed of you that Constantine was the very first Christian kyng that ioyned his sworde to the maintenaunce of Gods woorde Sithe this king Lucius so longe before Constantine did not onely these thinges that Polidore ascribeth vnto hym but also did them of his owne authoritie with out any knowledge or consent of the Pope Nor Eleutherius then Bishop of Rome to whome afterwardes king Lucius did write to see some of Caesars and the Romaine Lawe● was any thing offended with the kinges doinges but greatly cōmending him therein coūcelled him not to stand vpon the Romain lawes whiche saith the Pope might be reprehended but as he began without them so to go on draw Lawes alonely out of the Scripture which afterwardes more at large the Saxon kings as Iune Aluredus did The epistle of Pope Eleutherius to king Lucius is as followeth Peristis a nobis c. You haue desired of vs that the Romaine Lawes and the Lawes of Caesar might be sent ouer to you the whiche ye would haue vsed in your kingdome of Brytanie VVe may at al times reproue the Romaine Lawes and the Lawes of Caesar the lawe of God we can not For ye haue receiued of late by the deuine mercie in your kingdome of Brytanie the Lawe and faithe of Christe Ye haue with you in your kingdome both the olde and newe testament take out of them the Lawe by the grace of God through the councell of your kingdome and by it through Gods sufferaunce shallye rule youre kingdome of Brytanie for you are the vicar of God in your kingdome according to the Prophet kinge The earth is the Lordes and all that therein is the compasse of the worlde and they that dwel therin And againe according to the Prophet king Thou haste loued righteousnes and hated iniquitie wherfore God euen thy God hath anointed thee with the oile of gladnes aboue thy fellowes And againe according to the Prophet king geue the king thy iudgement O God and thy righteousnes vnto the kings sonne For it is not geue the iudgemēt and righteousnes of Caesar for the Christian nations and people of your kingdome are the kinges sonnes which dwel and consiste in your kingdome vnder your protectiō and peace according to the Gospel euen as the henne gathereth together her chickens vnder her winges The nations in deede of the kyngdome of Brytanie and the people are yours and whome beinge deuided you oughte to gather togeather to concorde and peace and to the faithe and to the Lawe of Christ and to the holy Churche to reuoke cherishe mainteyne protecte rule and alwaies defende them both from the iniurious persons and malicious and from his enemies VVoe be to
to mine assertion to be committed by Christe to Bishops priestes as proprely apperteyning to their office and calling without further commission or authoritie from Princes or any other power The distinction that I made of Ecclesiasticall iurisdiction I wil first repete and than put mine answeare to your argumentes Spiritual Iurisdiction is deuided into twoo sortes the one is called Cohibityue the other not Cohibityue That whiche is called not Cohibityue is that iurisdiction or power that is exercised and woorketh in the inwarde and secrete courte of conscience that is the preachinge of the Ghospell mynistration of the Sacramentes and the absoluinge and reteininge of sinnes by the woorde of God in the publique mynistery This therfore they call not Cohibityue bicause in the Court of conscience no man is bound or lowsed vnwillingly or against his will To exercise this kinde of Iurisdiction neither kinges nor ciuill Magistrates neither any other persone may challendge or take vppon him onlesse he be lawfully called thereunto Iurisdiction Cohibitiue hath twoo partes the one consisteth in the exercise of excommunication and circumstaunces thereunto required by Christes institution the whiche power or Iurisdiction belongeth to the Churche onely and not to the Prince Bishoppe or Priest for noman hath authoritie to excommunicate but onely the Churche and those who receiue authoritie there vnto by commission from the Churche The other kinde of Cohibitiue Jurisdiction is a power or authoritie that consisteth and is exercised in foro causarum in the courte of causes and apperteineth ad externum publicum forum to the externall and publike Courte and is defined to be saith Antonius an authoritie or power to declare the Law geue sentence and to iudge in all controuersies pertayninge to the Courte what is euery mans right and in summe to doo those thinges that iustice dooth require accordinge to the Lawes Ioannes Quintinus defineth Iurisdiction to the same effect but openeth the nature thereof more plainely sayinge Iurisdiction is an office and authoritie to declare the Lawe that is to admynister iustice and equity● and to gouerne the people with right and Lawes VVhan I name an office saith he I meane that iurisdiction hath in it selfe a necessity to declare the Lawe for office is that whiche euery man is bounde to doo to declare the lawe is to exercise iudgementes whereuppon commeth iurisdiction he meaneth that iurisdiction hath the name and is so called of exercisinge iudgementes iudgementes are exercised onely of them that haue iurisdiction that is power to iudge Iurisdiction consisteth onely in the contentions or debatinge of matters in Courte or iudgementes This authoritie to iudge dooth discende nowe from the Prince alone in whome onely is all power By vertue of this iurisdiction saith Antonius the Churche mynisters accordinge to their offices rightly enioyned vnto them may lawfully visit enquire of mens manners punishe the faulty send foorth apparitours or sommoners cyte the sturdy and stubborne represse their malepartnes call and sommon meete personnes to the Synode prouinciall or generall confirme the matters decreed in the Synode or Councell pardon faultes chaunge or mytigate the penaunce enioyned for confessed faultes condemne Heretiques and their writinges examine all mens writinges who so euer before they be set foorth or published and after due examination iudge whether they conteyne sounde or pestilent doctrine ordeine Decrees Lawes caeremonies and rytes constitute Bisshoppes and other Churche mynisters also depose degrade make them irreguler and vnhable to haue holy orders determine illegitimation in personnes for maryage bestowe Ecclesiasticall benefices and exact tythes and annates These and many other thinges may be lawfully doone by those that haue the power of this Cohibytiue Iurisdiction whiche is not saithe he properly signified by the name of the keyes for although it may be named in some respecte a Churche keye yet it differeth very muche from the keyes of the firste Courte that is of the Courte of Conscience For the vse of those keyes that are occupied in the Courte of conscience belongeth onely to the Euangelicall Priestes But this Iurisdiction may lawfully be exercised of those that are not mynisters of the woorde and Sacramentes and are not Priestes As the twoo former partes of Ecclesiastical iurisdiction haue their vertue power and institution of Christe immediatly euen so this third part whiche is saide to consiste in foro causarum with those thinges which may be vsed or exercised by vertue thereof dothe depende vppon the positiue Lawes of Christian Magistrates or where suche wanteth vppon the positiue rules and orders of that Churche where suche orders muste be practised and not immediatly vppon the Lawe of God You tooke vppon you to proue that this seconde kinde of Cohibityue Iurisdiction with the appurtenances thereof as I haue rehersed was appointed by the expresse woorde of God immediatly to Bishoppes and Priestes without further commission of Princes or other power whiche I denied Nowe let vs consider the force of your proufes and sée how they conclude your cause Firste yée say that the woordes of the first parte of the Othe doo by expresse woordes of the Acte geue vnto the Q. highnes all manner of iurisdictions priuileges and preheminences in any wise touchinge and concerninge any Spirituall or Ecclesiasticall iurisdiction within the realme with an expresse debarre and flat deniall made of al spirituall iurisdiction vnto the Bisshoppes thereof to be exercised ouer their flockes and cures without her highnes speciall commission to be graunted thereunto they hauinge by the expresse woorde of God commission of spirituall gouernement ouer them Your euill dealing with the woordes of the Acte and the Othe expresseth an vnkindely meaninge to the Prince and the state for that either the Acts or the Othe debarreth or denieth expressely or couertly y e Bishopes of this realme to exercise ouer their flockes and cures without her highnes speciall commission graunted therto any spirituall iurisdiction assigned to a Bishop by the woorde of God is altogether vntrue The Statute geueth or rather restoreth to the Prince Iurisdiction and authoritie to enquire after what sorte the Ecclesiasticall state and personnes behaue them selues in their cures and chardges to refourme and correct the disorders negligencies and enormities risinge amongest them to the hinderaunce of their office in their cures and chardges and in summe to order and prouide that they doo execute their office accordinge to their callinge in their cures chardges This is not to debarre or denie them the exercise of their office without a speciall licence Neither doo the expresse woordes of the Statute geue to the Prince all manner of iurisdictions in suche absolute wise as you reporte in any wise and any spirituall iurisdiction within the realme For these termes all manner in any wise and any spirituall iurisdiction whiche you enforce so muche are not founde in the gifte or restitucion of spirituall iurisdiction made by the acte vnto the Prince But in that parte where the acte geueth afterwarde
power and authoritie to the Prince to execute the Iurisdiction now vnited and annexed to the Crowne by méete delegates to be assigned named authorised by cōmission or letters patentes vnder the great Seale of Englande If yée will hereof inferre that bicause the Princes haue by vertue of the acte full power and authoritie to name assigne and authorise any person whome they shal thinke méete to exercise vse occupy and exequute vnder them all manner of iurisdictions priuileges and preheminences in any wise touchinge or concerning any Spirituall or Ecclesiastical iurisdiction with in their dominions or countreies Therefore all manner iurisdiction is in the Prince to be exercised vsed occupied and exequuted by them for otherwise you will say the Princes cannot geue and committe to others that which they haue not receiued and is not in them selues Your argument is easily answeared in fewe woordes it is a foule Sophistication a secundum quid ad simpliciter These woordes of the Acte all manner in any wise are restrained and bounded within the limites of the gifte where you of purpose to beguile the simple with all doo let them runne at lardge and sette them foorth as méere and simple vniuersalles without any limites at all The Act geueth or restoreth to the Prince iurisdictions priuileges superiorities and preheminencies spirituall Ecclesiasticall but it addeth this Limitacion suche as by any Spirituall or Ecclesiastical power or authoritie hath heretofore béene or may lawfully be exercised or vsed And for that these woordes as by any Spirituall or Ecclesiasticall power or authoritie hath heretofore been or may lawfully bee exercised and vsed may bee maliciously stretched by a wranglinge Papist and might seeme to some that haue good meaning also to geue ouer large a scope the matter or obiect wherein or where about these Spirituall or Ecclesiasticall iurisdictions priuileges superiorities and preheminences are exercised vsed and doo consiste is limited and added in these expresse woordes for the visitation of the Ecclesiasticall state and persones and for reformation order and correction of the same and of all manner errours heresies Schismes abuses offences contemptes and enormities whiche woordes of limitation in y e gifte as they geue not to the Prince the exercise of that iurisdiction that consisteth and woorketh in the inwarde and secrete Courte of conscience by the preaching of the woorde and mynstration of the Sacramentes whiche belongeth onely and alone to the Bishoppes neither doo they authorise the Prince to vse that iurisdiction that belongeth properly to the whole Church euen so doo they geue rightly vnto the Prince to exercise all maner iurisdictions priuileges superiorities and preheminences in any wyse touching and concerninge any Spiritual or Ecclesiasticall iurisdiction conteined vnder the seconde kinde of Cohibitiue iurisdiction for that may the Prince lawfully exercise and vse and doth not belong vnto the Bishops otherwise than by commission and authoritie of Positiue lawes This limitation of iurisdiction set forth by expresse wordes in y e Act you know right wel ye were also at sundry times put in minde thereof and you were wel assured that your alleaging y e wordes of the Act so darkely confusedly and vntruely could not further your cause amongest the wise and yet woulde you néedes publishe them in this sorte to the people whereby at the least to make both Prince and the Lawe odious vnto the simple subiectes The Bishoppes haue by the expresse woorde of God commission of Spiritual gouernmēt ouer their flock that is to féede the flock of Christ committed to their charge with Gods holy woorde as I haue declared before Thei haue commission to absolue the faithfully penitent and to reteine or binde the impenitent that is to declare and assure both the one the other by the worde of the Gospel of Gods iudgement towardes them What wil ye inferre hereof will ye cōclude therfore they haue all maner of spirituall gouernement or iurisdiction ouer them Yonge Logicians knowe this is an euell consequent that concludeth vpon one or diuerse particulers affirmatiuely an vniuersall Thus ye argue Bishoppes by the expresse worde of God haue commission to preache to their cures to remitte or reteine synnes Ergo they haue commission by the expresse woorde of God to Sommon councels or Synodes generall or prouinciall to visite that is iudicially sitting in iudgement to enquire of mens manners and forinsically to punishe or correct and to decide the controuersies amongest the people touching contractes of matrimony whoordome tyethes sclaunders c. and to ordeine decrees Lawes ceremonies rites c. If this conclusion followe consequently vpon your antecedēt than doth it ouerthrowe the doctrine of your Romishe diuinitie whiche graunteth not to the Bishoppes immediatly from God this power without a speciall commission from the Pope in whome onely as the Papistes saye is fulnes of iurisdictiō and power But if this conclusion followe not consequently vpon the antecedent as a man more than halfe blynde may plainely see it doth not than haue ye concluded nothing at all by Christes diuinitie that may further the matter yee haue taken in hande to proue You falsely reporte the Scriptures in this that you say the Bishops haue commission by the expresse woorde of God to geue vnto their flockes cures the holy ghost by the imposicion of their handes For the place which yée quote for that purpose expresseth no suche commission neither any other place of the holy Scriptures The Bishoppes haue so daungerous a cure and chardge ouer the soules committed vnto them that God will require the bloud of those that perishe thorough their negligence at their handes and therfore hath geuen them sufficient commission for the dischardge of their cures It were therefore an horrible absurditie if they might not exercise any Iurisdiction ouer thē if they might not visit refourme order and correct them by that commission without a further commissi●n from the Q. highnes But doo yée not perceiue which the most simple may sée whereof also yée often were admonished by me your warblinge slaight and Sophisticall quarellinge in equiuocation of woordes termes As there are twoo sortes of Iurisdiction whereof the one not Cohibityue properly belongeth to the Bishoppe whiche he may and ought to exercise ouer his flocke without any other commission than of Christ so to visit refourme order and correct are of twoo sortes the one a Scripturely visitacion reformation and correction by the onely woorde of God which the Bishoppes may and ought to exercise in time and out of time with all possible watchefulnes and diligence without any further commission The other kinde of visitacion reformation correction is Forinsecall or courtly whiche I comprehende vnder the seconde kinde of Cohibitiue Iurisdiction and this the Bishoppe may not exercise without a further commission from the Prince Wherefore it is ouer foule an absurditie in you to inferre that the Bishoppes may not exercise any Iurisdiction visitacion reformacion or correction bicause they may