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A95986 The ansvver of the Corporation of Moniers in the mint, at the Tower of London, to two false and scandalous libells printed at London, and lately come forth without date. The first intituled, The humble representation of Peter Blondeau, as a warning touching severall disorders hapning by money ill-favouredly coyned, and the only means to prevent them. The second intituled, A most humble memorandum from Peter Blondeau. Which not only intends maliciously to sandall [sic] us the Corporation of Moniers, of the Common-wealth of England : but also most falsly to imprint in the hearts and mindes of all people in Christendome, and more especially the good people under the obedience of the Parliament of England; that ... the moneys of the of this Common-Wealth ... are not justly made ... Set forth to undeceive all the good people that have seen or read the said Peter Blondeau's false and scandalous libells. Corporation of Moniers in the Mint (London, England); Violet, Thomas, fl. 1634-1662. 1653 (1653) Wing V579; Thomason E1070_2; ESTC R208184 25,101 45

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about coyning 2. The charge of the State concerning the same considering all circumstances will be less then in the old way and the honor of this Common-wealth much the greater in having their monies coyned in perfection above or beyond any other State now known 3. The said Blondeau came to London about 3 years and a half since and hath no other imployment here but to attend the pleasure of the State VVhite-Hall the 14. June 1651. Mr. DAVID RAMADGE THese are to authorize you to make some patterns as broad as a shilling a half-crown a twenty shillings peece of gold in a mill and if you can doe it with letters about the edge or other wayes according to Queen Elizabeths patterns of mill-money or any other modells or peeces you are to make That so the Committee of the Mint may see your severall peeces and thereupon consider what is fittest to present to the Councell of State for the more handsome making of the monies for the honor of this Common-Wealth James Harington Tho. Chaloner IN obedience to this Warrant from the abovesaid Right honorable Gentlemen of the Committee for removing the Obstructions of the Mint David Rammage our fellow monier by order of our whol Corporation of Moniers did make his Trial of skill who should best work a Patern or Modell according to the warrant aforesaid whether wee the Corporation of Moniers or the said Peter Blondeau And whereas the said Peter Blondeau had falsly affirmed to many people That his severall pieces of coyn presented by him to the Committee for the Mint no man in the world could make the like but himself David Rammage at the request of our Corporation did make severall Peeces and Modells within the Mint of the Tower of London more exactly with Letters about the edg then any peeces which Peter Blondeau presented to the Committee which Peeces are still remayning to bee seen and judged in the hands of the right honorable Sir James Harrington Chair-man of that Committee And whereas Blondeau the french man vapored and stood so much upon the gloss and tincture of his Monies viz. half-crowns shillings and sixpences which the said Peter Blondeau did falsly and traiterously make out of the Mint of the just weight and motto of the Common-wealths money contrary to the Lawes and Statutes of this Nation having fraudulently silvered over the said Plates with fine silver to abuse ignorant people the said cheat was discovered by the most knowing and right honorable gentlemen Master Allen and Master Cornelius Holland formerly Warden of the States Mint and both of them now of the Councel of State and at that very time wee made it our most humble Request to the right honorable the Committee of the Mint to take notice That the said Pet. Blondeau had committed Treason in traiterously making half-half-crown peeces shillings and six-pences of the coin of the Common-wealth of England in a private house in the Strand contrary to the lawes and statutes of this Nation out of the Mint not having an Act of Parliament or a Cōmission under the great seale of England to do it for which fact the said Peter Blondeau ought to suffer as a Traytor by being hanged drawn and quartered Whereupon the right honorable the Committee of the Mint presently sent Messengers and seized on all the said Peter Blondeaus Instruments and Tooles in the Strand and sent them to the Tower where they remaine at this day in safe custody with us in the Mint Now followeth the severall Proceedings before the honorable Committee for the Mint viz. To the right Honorable Sir James Harrington one of the Councell of State Chair-man for the Committee of the Mint The humble Proposition of the Provost and Moniers of the States Mint in the Tower of London 1. THat whereas some people desire to have the monies made by the mill for the future and that your Honors did bid David Rammage one of our fellowes to set down the lowest rate that we could aford to make the monies of gold and silver of this Common-wealth as fair and beautifull as the present Lewis and Cardeques and all other coynes of the French Nation are at this day made 2. Whereas we have 9. d. per pound weight Troy for working the present monie by the hammer Wee doe undertake for our selves and our Company to make fair mill-monie for 12. d. the pound weight Troy and to make it as fair as any monies currant in Christendome 3. Whereas we have 2. s. 5. d. for the making of one pound weight Troy of gold and the State hath 15. s. for the coynage We will undertake for our Company to make fair mill-gold as fair as the gold coynes in France for 5. s. the pound weight if it be the States pleasure that they will have it so made 4. That whereas we are an antient Corporation and Company setled by charter for many hundred yeares and in all ages faithfully discharged our trust and never any blot lay upon us eyther for embasing the coynes or for not accompting to the State for every grain of gold and silver that ever came under our charge Wee do humbly hope to have so much Justice that wee shall still bee imployed in the service of the State in regard it is the livelyhood and subsistence of above two hundred Families when the Mint is full of work and in regard wee undertake to do it as exactly as any French-man in the world and at a cheaper price then the French man hath offered and you may be assured that we shall discharge all or any trust that shall be put into our hands by the just dealing you have in all ages received from us Wee having since this Parliament many times in our own custody two or three hundred thousand pounds and have accompted for it to a penny to the State Sir we value the keeping of our Reputation in this point as much as we doe our lives therfore humbly hope our fidelitie and sufficiencie to doe what we undertake shall not be put into the scale with a French-man wee being willing and desirous to put it to the tryall between David Rammage our fellow Monier and the French man if the State please to command us Symon Corbet Michael Garnet Tho. Brooke John Benfeild Henry Perryn Hen. Rowe Richard Johnson Will. Dawson Will. Tavernor Tho. Younge David Rammage John Corbett Walter Taylor Nath. Marsh 28. Febr. 1650. THe eight of May 1651. The right Honorable the Committee for the Mint did order us the Moniers to make our tryall the States Arms as upon 20. s. piece the motto about the edges Truth and Peace the same in silver for a half crown the motto about the edges Truth and Peace and some of the same peeces to have a graining about the edges without motto and to present them the third of July 1651. to the right Honorable Sir James Harrington being Chair-man for that Committee In obedience to this order wee
THE ANSWER OF The Corporation of Moniers in the Mint at the Tower of London to two false and scandalous Libells printed at London and lately come forth without date THE FIRST INTITULED The humble Representation of Peter Blondeau as a warning touching severall disorders hapning by Money ill-favouredly coyned and the only means to prevent them THE SECOND INTITULED A most humble Memorandum from Peter Blondeau Which not only intends maliciously to sandall Us the Corporation of Moniers of the Common-Wealth of England But also most falsly to imprint in the hearts and mindes of all People in Christendome and more especially the good People under the obedience of the Parliament of England That by Us the Corporation of Moniers the Moneys of this Common-Wealth both for Gold and Silver are not justly made according to Our Indenture Set forth to undeceive all the good People that have seen or read the said Peter Blondeau's false and scandalous Libells PRINTED for the Corporation of Moniers 1653. A Letter from Master Thomas Violet to Master John Benfeild Clearke of the Corporation of Moniers in the Tower of London SIR THIS day came unto my hands a false and scandalous Libell put in print against the Moniers and Officers in the Mint Truly if you value your good names and to bee esteemed honest men these Pamphlets must have a Replie I am privie to all the transaction of this businesse and know there are more lies then lines in his Libells I was desired by Sir James Harington and the Committee of the Mint to attend them in the management of the tryall between M. David Ramidg and this Blondeau I never met with so impudent a lying fellow in my life as this frenchman is I told the master of the Mint Doctor Gourdon this day at Westminster that it was a shame to all the officers that such a fellow should be suffered to proceed as he did and no legall course be taken with him If this businesse be looked into seriously it strikes at the reputation of greater men then any officers of the Mint even against the State For if what the French-man asserts prove true then he seemes to charge the State with neglect of Justice upon the officers of the Mint who without dispute are in a Premunire by the law of this Nation If it prove false then his designe is To blast and dishonor the Common-wealth's-Mint now in this conjuncture of time when he sees there is likely to bee great quantities of silver coyned Truly M. John Benfeild it hath been and is by my meanes that your Mint now goes otherwise your Irons might still have continued rusty I am confident there is abundance of malice in blasting and abusing the States Mint at this time therefore I pray make the Provost and the rest of your fellowes acquainted with this Letter I love you all so well that if you desire this Mounsieur should receive an Answere to his Libell as I conceive you are necessitated to it I shall doe you the best service I may and doe at present hold fit that you make your humble addresses to the Councell of State for liberty to repaire your Integrity and Honor by the just rule of the Common-Law for doubtlesse these Pamphlets disperst into the hands of the ignorant multitude must needs possesse them according to his suggestion That the Parliaments money coyned in the Tower is not so fine nor so weighty as formerly in King James's and King Charles's times they not knowing how exactly the Mint is ruled both for the Fineness and just weight of the monies These truths appearing to a Jury which are most obvious to all Artists divers others doubtlesse they will give you ample Reparation All this well known to me I shall make as apparent to the world as freely as formerly I have acted any thing for you which was ever gratis though to my vast expence both of money and time And if I shall for my services done receive no satisfaction from the State I shall never expect any from any of you but Remaine your loving Frend THO. VIOLET Jan. 25. 1652. The Corporation of Moniers Answer MAster Tho. Violett our Company of Moniers thanke you for your Letter dated the 25 of January 1652. Wee desire you to bee pleased to give an Answer to Blundue the Frenchmans scandalous Libells concerning the Moniers and on their behalfe to vindicate our just Cause to the Common-wealth against those scandalous lying pamphlets and in so doing you will very much obliege your very loving freinds and servants Symon Corbet Prov Michaell Garnett John Benfeild Henry Perin Daniell Benfeild Walter Taylor Ric. Warner John Taverner Abram Hunt David Rammag John Warner Nathan Marsh Simon Corbitt Garnett Corbit Vall. Nicholson Hen. Lewis John Butterfield Edmond Dawson Nic. Hares John Shoute William Dawson Robert Gascoyne George Taverner Richard Johnson Stephen Holton Edward Heward James Boone Richard Sternell Sir here are all our fellowes that are at present in the Mint But the rest being in the Country shall give you hearty thanks and ever acknowledg themselves bound unto you for your favor and great pains in this particular to our Corporation in stating the whol proceedings in this businesse to the World which we had for severall dayes before the right honorable The Committee of Councell of State for the Mint you attending that businesse by Order of the said Committee John Benfeild Clearke Jan. 27. 1652. The humble Representation of Peter Blondeau as a Warning touching severall disorders happening by Monie ill-favoredly Coined and the only meanes to prevent them THE Coin which is unequall in bigness and unhandsomly don is easily clipped and not perceived to be so Most part of that which is currant now is clipped and will bee yet more and more and your Honors will perceiv what wrong it doth to the State and Publick when you shall go about to remedy it Such a man shall have a 100l sterl in so manie pieces who yet will finde but 70 or 80 by the weight and the longer you defer the remedie the wors the diseas will bee as it was seen in France when almost half was lost upon the Coin That disorder is grown to such a height that even in that Mint as things are now carried there they do coin the monie with such inequalitie in the weight that I can exhibit som shillings which weigh not full five pence and others that weigh near upon eighteen pence and have been so coined And that is the caus why som men do pick out the heaviest pieces to transport out of the Land and do give som what per cent to cull out the heaviest Coine from among the rest And I have been informed that som Officers Workmen of the Mint have followed that way as som of them have even confessed before the Committee for the Mint and that was the caus why they made it so unequal not onely on pretence for a quicker expedition but also that they
depose every one for himself that such things never entred into the heart or imagination of any of us to act or doe much lesse for any one of us to confesse before the right Honorable the Committee of the Mint that ever any such vilanie was ever done or acted by any of our fellow Moniers And we most humbly desire the right Honorable Committee for the Mint or any one of them to give either all of us or any one of us a charge if this which Peter Blondeau the french man saith we confessed before the Cōmittee to be true if the said right honorable Committee clear us then we humblie desire we may have liberty to commence our suit at Common Law against this Peter Blondeau and wee make no question but a Jury will give us full reparation Fifthly Whereas Peter Blondeau saith The monie ought to be ajusted peece by peece when it is finished This ignorant fellow ought to know every journy of gold and silver is examined by the sworn Officers the Warden the Master the Controler the Assay-Master out of every journy of gold or silver there are severall peeces taken and put into the pix box for a years tryall and the monie both gold and silver both for fineness and weight exactly tryed to see that it be according to our Indenture before the monie either gold or silver is payed forth to the subjects And that this is true all people that ever traded in the Mint know and it is the most perfect and exactest tryall of any Mint in Christendom And this we doe justifie to all the world to be a certain truth Sixthly That whereas the said Peter Blondeau saith That he made some three hundred peeces some half crowns of the ordinary weight and bigness some shillings six pences and some gold peeces and presented his Proposition which having been reformed according to the pleasure of the Committee it was received and accepted of by the whole Committee who ordered it to be reported to the Councell of State We answer that we never knew any such order nor never heard any of the right honorable Committee say so much as the said Blondeau falsly affirms But at the same time upon our humble Petition of setting forth the treasonable action of the said Peter Blondeau in presuming traiterously to coyn the currant monies of the Nation in a private house in the Strand the said Committee ordered presently That all his coyning tools and irons then remaning in the Strand should be presently secured and seized and sent into the Mint in the Tower which was done accordingly and there they remain at this day We humblie desire as aforesaid to have leave to indict the said Peter Blondeau as we have formerly said for his treasonable coyning of monie out of the Mint he not having an act of Parliament or Commission under the great seal of England for the doing of the same Seventhly whereas the said Blondeau hath printed That for the making of some tooles for the coyning of about one dozen peeces for a pattern they have put the State to one hundred pound sterling charge Wee answere That wee followed the strict Letter of our Warrant from the honorable Committee of the Mint both for the motto and weight and though wee presented but a dozen peeces yet with those tooles wee made if commanded wee can print many thousands and for truth of the premisses view our Accompt following attested under our hands The Accompt of the Moniers of the Commonwealths Mint upon the tryall with Peter Blondeau the Frenchman about the making of Monies in July August and September one thousand six hundred fifty one Inprimis in fitting of tooles and instruments for the work 50. l. o. s. o. d. In Gold and Silver for making of the tryall 11. 04. 03. Expended by the Moniers at severall times when they waited upon the Committee of the Mint in the tryall 26. 14. 02. In all 87. 18. 05. And the honorable Committee for the Mint promised the Moniers for their exact working of the silver monie after six moneths for the silver a penny upon the pound weight which coms to 12. l 16. s. 7. d. And for gold six pence upon the pound weight which comes to 06. 09. 00. totall 107. 04. 00. Mr. THO. VIOLET WEE doe desire you on behalf of the Moniers to prefer our petition to the right honorable the Committee for the Mint for allowance for our tryall with the frenchman and for an allowance for a pennie in the pound weight for silver and six pence in the pound weight for gold as their Honors promised us after six moneths and in so doing you will very much oblige your very loving friends to serve you the 8. of Decemb. 1652. Symon Corbet John Benfeild Val. Nicholson Richard Johnson Walter Taylor Henry Perrin Robert Grave Eightly Whereas Peter Blondeau saith That the Committee having read over all our Propositions could not understand them or the sense of them and even those that brought them could not explain them whereby it was apparent we were not able to make our Propositions good To answer this great untruth we are now necessitated to print all the Papers we humblie presented to the right honorable Committee and leave it to the world to judge and we with all humility humbly leave it to the right honorable Sir James Harrington the Chair-man of the Committee to examine whether he had not all these Papers now printed delivered unto him according to the severall dates put down by us the Corporation of Moniers in the States Mint about two years since Ninthly Whereas Peter Blondeau saith That our Corporation is now but of thirty Fellowes or Masters who are all rich and have lands or houses and other waies of maintenance without the work of the Mint and when the State hath much monie to coyn they were wont to hire some journy-men at 18. d. 15. d. and 12. d. for half a dayes work To answer to this great untruth Wee can speak it with a great deal of grief that almost twenty of our Fellows are fallen to so great decay that both themselves and families are brought to great distress and poverty for want of imployment in the Mint they all of them having been bound Apprentices for the least seven years to this Trade and having no other calling or way to get their living but only upon the mistery and way of making of monies many of them that are fellow Moniers having no other subsistence then what we of the Corporation amongst our selves collect for them to keep them from starving And that this is true we can produce hundreds of witnesses and many of us finde it to our insupportable charge we thinking our selves bound in conscience not to see any of our fellow Moniers perish for want of food and clothes Here follows the true list of Fellows and Workmen and Laborers imployed in the Mint 27. Jan. 1652. and some times we imploy four times as many Laborers viz. The names of the fellow-Moniers belonging to the Common-Wealth of Englands Mint in the Tower of London the 27. January 1652. 1 Symon Corbet Provost 2 Tho. Robinson senior 3 Mich. Garnet 4 Tho. Brookes sen 5 Tho. Garnet 6 John Benfeild 7 Henry Lewis 8 John Pollard 9 John Butterfeild 10 Andrew Coleman 11 Chr. Wilson 12 Nic. Harris 13 John Shoncke 14 Edw. Dawson 15 Hen. Rowe 16 Hen. Perrin 17 Valen. Nicholson 18 Stephen Hawten 19 Wm. Dawson 20 Gabriel Benfeild 21 Tho. Robinson jun. 22 Rich. Nichols 23 Edw. Maynard 24 Rich. Collard 25 Robert Gascoign 26 James Clay 27 John Weatherly 28 John Warner 29 Ja. Boone 30 Wm. Taverner 31 Wm. Shambrooke 32 Tho. Young 33 Rich. Johnson 34 Walter Taylor 35 John Corbet 36 Edw. Heward 37 Geo. Taverner 38 Garnet Corbet 39 Nathaniel Marsh 40 Wm. Serby 41 Joseph Sanders 42 Wm. Maynard 43 Robert Graves 44 David Ramage 45 Edw. Worldly 46 Symon Corbet Jun. 47 Geo. Callard 48 Daniel Robinson 49 Daniel Benseild 50 Rob. Aspe 51 Abram Hunt 52 Wm. Younge 53 Toby Maynard 54 Tho. Brooks Jun. 55 Tho. Russell 56 Tho. Anderson 57 Rich. Warner 58 Rich. Sternell 59 John Taverner The names of the Laborers belonging to the Cōmon-wealths Mint in the Tower of London the 27. Jan. 1652. and at work and all in the Moniers pay 1 Nicholas Muriel 2 John Mathewes 3 Jo. Lucke 4 Wm. Smyth 5 Jo. Prince 6 Ja. Sparks 7 Rob. Baldwin 8 Ja. Bernald 9 Tho. Fulham 10 Jeffry Tedsell 11 Henry Freeman 12 Samuell Freeman 13 Robert Watts 14 Geo. Ellet 15 Edw. Thede 16 Hen. Peacocke 17 Joseph Rowland 18 Edw. Aires 19 Isaac Taylor 20 Philip Anderkin 21 John Feild 22 Wm. Gunn 23 John Gable 24 Edw. Jones 25 Tho. Browne 26 Jo. Langly 27 Fran. Cave 28 Wm. Page 29 Tho. Emes 30 Tho. Blunt 31 Wm. East 32 John Pookey 33 John Michell 34 John Ramzy 35 Wm. Ludlow 36 Tho. Horton 37 Rich. Hopkins 38 Rob. Wilkinson 39 Wm. Pryce 40 John Shelley 41 Tho. Floyd 42 Wm. Blaygrave 43 Rich. Cletherwell 44 Rob. Cave 45 Wm. Hazelwood 46 Edw. Darby 47 Fran. White 48 Rob. Finch 49 Tho. Collumer 50 Wm. Atkins 51 Wm. Hall