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The modern pleas for comprehension, toleration, and the taking away the obligation to the renouncing of the covenant considered and discussed.
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Tomkins, Thomas, 1637?-1675.
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their love I cannot imagine who these should be unless those Saints who are above Ordinances And for my own part I must freely profess that for all the account which our Author hath given us of his three Contrivances of Comprehension Toleration and Connivance I cannot at all perceive but that Mr. Sterry's way of sorting out the several Ranks of Saints doth well suit with and is proportioned to it And here let any sober man judge whether the Settlement pretended for in the first of these three Proposals be not absolutely unsetled again in the two other But in the next place I must go on to consider a Pretence much oftner supposed than owned and that is this Suppose that the Terms of the Communion of the Church are not only inexpedient but really sinful if so then I shall readily grant that the Church ought not to be communicated with while the Terms of her Communion are such But in this part of the Argument I shall presume to say with some confidence and I hope without offence that however the Teachers of the separated Congregations may sometimes slily insinuate some such Jealousies into the Heads of their unwary Hearers yet it is not easie to find a considerable man amongthem who will not be ashamed to own it publickly or who doth himself really believe it Now though this Assertion may seem to carry something of uncharitableness in it because that the Separation from the Church is so avowed and pressed upon the People as if that it were highly necessary and that Communion with the Church was highly criminal at least in the Opinion of the Teachers It being a plain case that the People are wheedled into Separation upon the account that they suppose their Teachers know it to be unlawful Now as to this I must needs say it is shrewdly to be suspected that there is in this case a very great Cheat imposed by the Preachers and the People upon one another and by both upon the whole Nation because that it is as often evident as there is occasion for making it so that among the Pastors and the Flock there are not many who in a time of Tryal approve themselves to be in good earnest I have been credibly informed not to say that I am able to make it good that Mr. Calamy did before His Majesty and divers Lords of the Council profess that there was not any thing in the Constitutions of the Church to which he could not conform were it not for the scandalizing of others so that in his Esteem the Constitutions of the Church were in themselves Innocent and the whole Objection against them lay in the mistakes of other men Mr. Tombs the Leader of the Anabaptists hath writ a Book to shew the lawfulness of resorting to the Publick Congregations The Author which I before mentioned assures us in behalf of the Presbyterians that they not only maintain the Doctrine of the Church of England but likewise communicate in her Publick Worship in his second Discourse of the Religion of England pag. 17. By which acknowledgment we may take an estimate of the Honesty of their Separation Nay I shall venture to say thus much farther that the lawfulness of joyning in the Publick Worship is understood by the Layety as well as Clergy amongst them is evident from these three Things First that there are those Persons to be named who came to Church before the Act of Oblivion who never did since Secondly that immediately after the Act of Uniformity whilst the Hopes of Toleration were very uncertain there was a much greater Conformity both in the City of London and over the whole Nation than ever hath been since Thirdly that I have enquired and could never learn that there was so much as one example to be given of any one of all the Patrons or Proselytes of the Conventicles who did leave the smallest Office whatever rather than he would in obedience to a late Act of Parliament joyn in the Prayers and receive the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper according to the Order of the Church of England From which it doth appear plainly that in these mens esteem either there is no sin in communicating with the Church of England or else that these Gentlemen of so extreamly tender Consciences can deliberately commit a sin and that when they are performing the most solemn Act of Adoration of Almighty God and with all the shews of Devotion imaginable And seeing that these things are so is it not huge pitty that a setled Church and a Church in great Reputation over all the Reformed Parts of Christendom should be run down by a meer noise of Conscience when it is very plain that when ever there is a real Case put where Conscience ought to shew it self that then no such thing appears neither is there the least evidence that it is so much as thought upon If there be any Objection against the present Constitution it must be either against the Articles the Liturgy the Canons or the Ceremonies As to the Articles there is scarce so much as one Objection pretended against them farther than as they relate to the following Heads and if there were such an Objection could not easily be alleadged by the People as a just excuse for their Non-conformity because they are not at all concerned for to subscribe them unless they bring upon themselves a voluntary Obligation by some Act of their own as taking a Degree in the University But in this Point many words are needless for besides the Testimony of all Churches abroad we have at home two Witnesses beyond all exception to the Innocency and Honour of the Articles even the two late celebrated Advocates the one for Comprehension the other for Toleration The former assures us in the behalf of those whose Cause he pleads that they do receive the Doctrine of Faith contained in the Articles of Religion pag. 2. and again pag. 22. That they heartily embrace the English Reformation established by Law c. and that they do assent to the Doctrine of Faith contained in the Articles of the Church of England and worship God according to that Faith pag. 22. The Peace-offering doth likewise bear witness for us of that great esteem which is bore unto the Articles of the Church of England in all the Reformed Churches abroad and withal doth assure us in behalf of the Independents at home that as to all which is purely doctrinal in them they do fully embrace and constantly adhere to c. And accordingly he undertakes to profess in the name of them all We have no new Faith to declare no new Doctrine to teach no private Opinion to divulge no Point or Truth do we profess no not one which hath not been declared taught divulged and esteemed as the common Doctrine of the Church of England ever since the Reformation pag. 13. Thus far therefore our way is clear that the Doctrine of the Church is sound and esteemed to
which have no manner of relation to Liberty of Conscience and which would have the same effect without it as they can possibly have by it As to our selves and our present Case there are but three Things which I can learn pretended by reason of which it is possible to be supposed that the putting the Act against Conventicles in Execution can draw any prejudice upon Trade First that Merchants who are not willing to conform will not come over and settle in England Secondly that the most eminent Traders being Non-conformists they will either forbear Trading to the utter undoing of all such Workmen as Weavers c. who do depend upon them or leave the Kingdom and carry their profitable Trades along with them which will bring a great decay of Trade here and carry away that benefit which England might have received to that whatever Country they shall please to settle in Thirdly That Merchants beyond Sea as Roman Catholicks c. will not be easily perswaded to trust their Estates in the hands of those who are not of their own Religion and they who are being lyable to such Prosecutions as by our Laws they are liable unto will be fearful of having any Estates in their own hands and look upon it as more adviseable to forbear Trading rather than to be liable to so many Difficulties These are the three most considerable Objections which I have hitherto been able to meet with and to each of these I have this to offer by way of return As to the first that this severity will discourage Forraign Merchants from comming over to us It is a mistake to think that the Church of England is such a Bug bear to the rest of the Reformation as that the Religion of that is looked upon as sufficient Cause to hinder any great Numbers of valuable Persons from coming over to dwell in the Nation It is by no means clear that any store of them do at this time desire to transplant hither and if they did it is more than possible that some other of our Civil Constitutions may be greater bars in their way than the Act against Conventicles and particularly the want of a Register And that Person must have more than ordinary Intelligence who can be able to secure us that there are such Numbers of considerable Merchants at this time designing to come over and are diverted only by the News of the Bill against Conventicles going to be put into Execution as that the advantage and addition of those Persons and that Trade to the Nation should be 〈◊〉 great as to overbalance those many and unavoidable Inconveniencies which I have already shewed that Religion and Government must be exposed to by the grant of Liberty of Conscience It doth not remain in our Memories that in Cromwel's time when there was Liberty given to all except Papists and Prelatists that any were by that Liberty encouraged to come over at least not any such number as to be considerable But suppose it should so happen that some Eminent Merchants should design to come over I could never yet hear nor am I wise enough to think upon any reason why the Act against Conventicles should more fright them from England than the Inquisition doth from other Countries as Spain Italy and Portugal and yet in those Countries Merchants have their Factories and drive their greatest Trade Besides strangers Merchants have as much encouragement in this particular as can reasonably be desired the French have their Church the Dutch theirs nay even the Iews have theirs and all Aliens of 〈◊〉 Reformation have even by the very Act of Uniformity an express provision made for them as to the enjoyment of their own way of Worship at the pleasure of His Majesty and if they do meet and keep to their own Language they need fear no more in this Country than in any other As to the second Thing alledged that if the Act against Conventicles be put in Execution the most Eminent Traders being Non-Conformists they will leave off Trading and by that means undo all sorts of Workmen who do depend upon them and not only so but leave the Nation and carry their Trades away along with them Now that this is a thing of more Noise than Weight will appear if we examine it with a little Care That some eminent Merchants are Non-conformists is undoubtedly True but that the most eminent are so I am sure is not true and could easily make it appear if it were fit to mention the Names of particular Persons But so far as it is true doth any man in his wits imagine that the Act against Conventicles will make them either quit their profitable Trades or fright them out of the Kingdom It doth neither condemn them to be hanged nor burned neither doth it so much as touch their Persons or Estates for being Non-conformists but permits them to be of what Religion they please and alloweth them the free exercise of their Religion in their Families It cannot therefore be easily imagined that People will be so far out of their wits though I must confess that Fanaticism will go a great way toward putting them out of them as to leave their settled and profitable Trades their Native Country Relations and Friends only because they cannot publickly shew the exercise of their Mode of Worship whereas they may freely enjoy it in their own Families and be known to do so without the least interruption in any of the forementioned Conveniencies Especially considering that Merchants of that Eminency that their Case deserves to be taken notice of in a case of this Publick concern now under debate are very well able to keep Ministers in thier own Houses and may do it with far less charge and prejudice than either going into some other Countrey or the forbearance of their Trades will put them to But I shall for once suppose two Things whereof the first is evidently not true the second not at all likely That the most Eminent Merchants are Non-Conformists and that upon that account they will forbear Trading But even upon these Terms it is to be hoped that those they deal with will not be utterly undone whatever may be pretended For put the Case that three or four of the most Eminent Merchants should dy or which I wish did never happen break every dayes experience shews us that the Clothiers they deal with and consequently the Weavers and other Workmen depending upon them are not presently ruined or so much as out of employment but do immediately find other Merchants to deal with the Trades of those who either give over Trading or dy being alwayes continued by their Sons or Partners or shared amongst those who have been their Servants or other Merchants who deal in the same Commodity and to the same Places But suppose that the putting the Laws in Execution should so far distract any Numbers as to make them run out of the Kingdom Let it be considered