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the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v full_o consent_v with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o the_o doctrine_n thereof_o set_v down_o in_o this_o chapter_n num_fw-la 5._o so_o far_o as_o it_o concern_v the_o concurrence_n of_o grace_n and_o man_n will_n in_o our_o sanctification_n and_o the_o mark_n thereof_o call_v eliciate_v &c._n &c._n imperate_v in_o respect_n that_o they_o flow_v from_o the_o inward_a sanctify_a grace_n and_o be_v wrought_v outward_o by_o the_o choice_n &_o command_n of_o the_o will_n or_o by_o necessary_a consecution_n and_o supposition_n the_o only_a difference_n lie_v in_o the_o doubt_n propound_v num_fw-la 7._o and_o in_o the_o liberty_n of_o man_n will_n teach_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o aforesaid_a for_o the_o resolve_v of_o that_o doubt_n now_o the_o church_n of_o england_n satisfi_v that_o doubt_n on_o this_o wise_a the_o predestinate_a to_o life_n be_v call_v by_o god_n spirit_n they_o through_o grace_n obey_v that_o call_n arti_fw-la 17._o unto_o which_o it_o do_v dispose_v they_o homily_n pag._n 456._o which_o be_v all_o one_o as_o if_o it_o have_v say_v they_o through_o grace_n and_o the_o dispose_n thereof_o do_v consent_n resolve_v determine_v etc._n etc._n to_o believe_v fear_v hope_v etc._n etc._n for_o thereunto_o by_o grace_n or_o god_n spirit_n be_v man_n call_v and_o dispose_v in_o which_o be_v also_o employ_v that_o the_o eliciate_v act_n of_o consent_v etc._n etc._n be_v not_o free_a man_n can_v at_o the_o instant_n of_o eliciate_a that_o act_n reject_v grace_n and_o dissent_v from_o the_o call_v thereof_o which_o sentence_n be_v infer_v on_o this_o wise_a every_o act_n so_o wrought_v by_o god_n spirit_n as_o man_n will_n be_v obedient_a thereto_o and_o dispose_v thereby_o be_v not_o free_a for_o the_o operation_n of_o grace_n or_o god_n spirit_n be_v determine_v to_o one_o but_o man_n consent_v which_o be_v obedience_n to_o the_o call_v of_o grace_n etc._n etc._n be_v a_o act_n so_o wrought_v by_o god_n grace_n so_o say_v the_o article_n and_o homily_n therefore_o the_o act_n of_o consent_v be_v not_o free_a what_o it_o do_v give_v to_o man_n will_n our_o church_n give_v to_o grace_v that_o act_n which_o it_o make_v free_a our_o church_n make_v necessary_a in_o this_o doctrine_n and_o inference_n therefrom_o the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v direct_o oppose_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o such_o express_a and_o manifest_a sort_n as_o hereafter_o there_o can_v no_o doubt_n be_v make_v whether_o it_o do_v dissent_v therefrom_o or_o no_o or_o wherein_o that_o dissent_n shall_v lie_v so_o that_o now_o nothing_o remain_v but_o that_o mr_n montague_n shall_v oppose_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n according_a to_o his_o promise_n set_v down_o numb_a 5._o but_o methinks_v i_o hear_v he_o say_v this_o difference_n be_v not_o material_a it_o import_v not_o any_o thing_n worthy_a of_o difference_n and_o dissent_n but_o proceed_v from_o mind_n transport_v with_o faction_n therefore_o i_o be_o not_o yet_o tie_v unto_o that_o promise_n i_o answer_v he_o seem_v indeed_o to_o attribute_v the_o difference_n and_o opposition_n to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o this_o point_n of_o freewill_n to_o arise_v from_o no_o other_o ground_n but_o faction_n appeal_v p._n 84._o etc._n etc._n but_o altogether_o untrue_o for_o the_o church_n of_o england_n hold_v not_o a_o faction_n against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n but_o have_v make_v a_o separation_n for_o the_o avoid_n of_o damnation_n as_o have_v be_v declare_v chapter_n 6._o num_fw-la 6._o neither_o be_v she_o so_o ignorant_a as_o to_o take_v a_o shadow_n in_o stead_n of_o a_o substance_n nor_o of_o such_o a_o idle_a head_n solemn_o to_o determine_v and_o decree_v matter_n of_o no_o moment_n to_o be_v matter_n of_o faith_n but_o if_o any_o man_n shall_v be_v of_o that_o ill_a mind_n that_o in_o any_o thing_n he_o can_v think_v so_o of_o she_o yet_o in_o this_o point_n he_o can_v not_o do_v so_o for_o this_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v erroneous_a therefore_o for_o it_o alone_o let_v the_o matter_n itself_o be_v what_o it_o will_v be_v must_v she_o be_v oppose_v to_o the_o uttermost_a because_o such_o a_o faith_n be_v a_o addition_n unto_o the_o word_n of_o god_n threaten_v to_o be_v punish_v by_o eternal_a damnation_n the_o matter_n itself_o be_v also_o of_o great_a moment_n in_o itself_o our_o church_n do_v give_v all_o the_o honour_n of_o our_o salvation_n in_o the_o event_n &_o in_o the_o manner_n of_o work_v unto_o god_n they_o do_v divide_v it_o between_o god_n and_o man_n and_o give_v only_o this_o honour_n to_o god_n that_o he_o make_v man_n 1._o able_a to_o begin_v to_o tread_v in_o the_o way_n unto_o salvation_n and_o 2._o supply_v man_n defect_n and_o join_v with_o he_o in_o the_o progress_n itself_o but_o he_o leave_v unto_o man_n and_o the_o inbred_a liberty_n that_o be_v in_o the_o create_a faculty_n of_o his_o will_n to_o begin_v and_o produce_v the_o first_o act_n or_o to_o make_v void_a the_o beginning_n and_o possibility_n already_o wrought_v by_o grace_n and_o to_o prevent_v reject_v and_o forestall_v the_o offer_n and_o operation_n of_o the_o second_o supply_n and_o power_n of_o grace_n regulate_v both_o the_o first_o and_o second_o work_n of_o grace_n if_o man_n will_v consent_v unto_o &_o obey_v the_o first_o work_n of_o grace_n than_o the_o second_o do_v join_v with_o he_o and_o thereupon_o he_o go_v on_o indeed_o in_o the_o way_n to_o heaven_n if_o man_n refuse_v to_o consent_v unto_o and_o obey_v the_o first_o work_n of_o grace_n than_o the_o whole_a work_n thereof_o cease_v &_o come_v to_o nothing_o and_o the_o work_n of_o the_o second_o grace_n never_o come_v on_o begin_v not_o at_o all_o the_o work_n of_o man_n
the_o point_n i_o will_v set_v down_o and_o then_o apply_v it_o it_o say_v good_a work_n can_v put_v away_o our_o sin_n artic._n 12._o in_o which_o sentence_n there_o be_v a_o direct_a contradiction_n put_v unto_o the_o doctrine_n last_o recite_v out_o of_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o m._n mountagu_n the_o term_n put_v away_o must_v signify_v that_o put_n away_o which_o be_v call_v remission_n and_o not_o satisfaction_n for_o this_o do_v make_v recompense_n for_o sin_n but_o do_v not_o put_v away_o sin_n which_o import_v the_o destroy_n of_o the_o be_v &_o remain_v of_o sin_n itself_o by_o deny_v the_o put_v away_o of_o sin_n to_o good_a work_n the_o merit_v of_o remission_n of_o sin_n by_o grace_n and_o the_o effect_n thereof_o be_v deny_v for_o otherwise_o then_o so_o good_a work_n be_v not_o fit_v nor_o able_a to_o put_v away_o sin_n and_o himself_o speak_v thus_o of_o it_o gag_n p._n 156._o now_o forasmuch_o as_o good_a work_n be_v the_o fruit_n of_o a_o lively_a faith_n as_o the_o article_n speak_v that_o be_v of_o the_o habit_n of_o grace_n the_o remission_n of_o sin_n that_o it_o deny_v to_o good_a work_n it_o deny_v to_o the_o habit_n of_o grace_n and_o therein_o it_o deny_v that_o remission_n of_o sin_n be_v a_o formal_a effect_n or_o physical_a work_n of_o grace_n forasmuch_o as_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n can_v be_v no_o other_o effect_n or_o operation_n of_o the_o habit_n of_o grace_n but_o formal_a and_o physical_a the_o homily_n of_o alm_n pag._n 329._o teach_v the_o same_o thing_n express_o which_o be_v a_o proof_n sufficient_a that_o m._n mountagu_n do_v dissent_v from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o no_o dissent_n in_o a_o matter_n of_o this_o kind_n can_v be_v great_a than_o a_o contradiction_n our_o church_n do_v teach_v positive_o what_o remission_n of_o sin_n be_v wherein_o it_o do_v assign_v a_o nature_n contrary_a to_o that_o which_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o m._n mountagu_n do_v give_v unto_o it_o if_o i_o make_v that_o appear_v i_o doubt_v not_o then_o to_o say_v m._n mountagu_n dissent_v from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n i_o do_v it_o thus_o the_o true_a knowledge_n of_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n consist_v in_o the_o true_a understanding_n of_o these_o two_o thing_n viz._n 1._o what_o be_v mean_v by_o sin_n which_o be_v say_v to_o be_v forgive_v second_o what_o act_n of_o god_n it_o be_v by_o which_o it_o be_v forgive_v sin_n of_o which_o a_o man_n may_v be_v denominate_v a_o sinner_n may_v be_v conceive_v two_o way_n first_o for_o the_o act_n of_o sin_n past_a second_o for_o the_o will_n of_o sin_v as_o thomas_n have_v true_o observe_v 3._o part_n q._n 61._o art_n 4._o c._n the_o will_n of_o sin_v be_v not_o the_o object_n of_o that_o act_n which_o the_o scripture_n call_v remit_v because_o the_o will_n of_o sin_v import_v a_o indisposition_n unto_o good_a and_o a_o aptness_n to_o sin_n remain_v in_o the_o will_n from_o whence_o the_o scripture_n do_v not_o denominate_v a_o man_n a_o sinner_n but_o from_o the_o act_n of_o sin_n the_o act_n of_o sin_n past_a be_v the_o object_n of_o remission_n as_o be_v confess_v on_o all_o side_n the_o council_n of_o trent_n have_v decree_v it_o sess_n 6._o cap._n 5._o where_o it_o make_v such_o as_o be_v turn_v from_o god_n by_o sin_n the_o man_n that_o be_v justify_v so_o do_v all_o the_o expositor_n of_o the_o council_n with_o one_o consent_n make_v the_o act_n of_o sin_n the_o thing_n remit_v and_o from_o which_o a_o man_n be_v justify_v bellarmine_n have_v it_o de_fw-fr justi_fw-la lib._n 2._o cap._n 16._o with_o who_o testimony_n i_o will_v rest_v content_v other_o may_v say_v the_o same_o thing_n but_o not_o more_o nor_o more_o clear_o than_o he_o have_v do_v the_o church_n of_o england_n teach_v it_o in_o the_o first_o homily_n of_o salvation_n where_o it_o name_v a_o little_a after_o the_o beginning_n sin_n forgive_v by_o the_o name_n of_o trespass_n and_o again_o sin_n from_o which_o man_n be_v wash_v and_o which_o be_v not_o impute_v it_o call_v sin_n in_o act_n or_o deed_n the_o act_n of_o god_n whereby_o the_o sin_n of_o man_n be_v remit_v be_v set_v out_o by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n by_o diverse_a title_n according_a to_o the_o course_n and_o phrase_n of_o scripture_n but_o of_o they_o all_o one_o be_v the_o most_o fit_a and_o of_o best_a signification_n for_o this_o present_a occasion_n viz._n the_o not-imputing_a of_o sin_n which_o it_o use_v in_o the_o first_o homily_n of_o salvation_n a_o little_a after_o the_o beginning_n the_o word_n lie_v thus_o man_n be_v wash_v from_o his_o sin_n in_o such_o sort_n that_o there_o remain_v not_o any_o spot_n of_o sin_n that_o shall_v be_v impute_v to_o their_o damnation_n in_o which_o sentence_n wash_v away_o the_o spot_n of_o sin_n which_o be_v the_o act_n remit_v sin_n be_v resolve_v into_o the_o act_n of_o not-imputing_a where_o it_o say_v so_o wash_v as_o not_o impute_v he_o must_v not_o deny_v this_o homily_n to_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n for_o he_o do_v avouch_v it_o to_o be_v such_o in_o his_o appeal_v pag._n 190._o and_o 194._o if_o it_o be_v say_v the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v assign_v other_o act_n of_o remit_v sin_n beside_o this_o in_o use_v other_o title_n i_o answer_v though_o it_o do_v use_v other_o title_n yet_o not_o assign_v any_o other_o act_n but_o this_o for_o this_o do_v extend_v as_o large_o as_o they_o all_o and_o they_o do_v but_o explicate_v this_o therefore_o we_o may_v conclude_v in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n the_o not-imputation_n of_o sin_n be_v the_o sole_a and_o only_o act_v whereby_o sin_n be_v remit_v touch_v this_o act_n arise_v all_o the_o difference_n between_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o our_o church_n with_o which_o church_n of_o rome_n m._n mountagu_n consent_v both_o of_o they_o assign_v such_o a_o act_n of_o god_n as_o do_v real_o differ_v and_o put_v a_o contrariety_n unto_o this_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n teach_v 1._o that_o sin_n be_v remit_v by_o a_o create_v be_v namely_o the_o habit_n of_o grace_n 2._o that_o remission_n of_o sin_n be_v wrought_v in_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n 3._o that_o the_o manner_n how_o sin_n be_v remit_v by_o grace_n be_v formal_a and_o physical_a as_o a_o painter_n that_o cover_v a_o thing_n deform_v with_o beauty_n and_o good_a shape_n our_o church_n make_v 1._o the_o creator_n direct_o and_o immediate_o the_o worker_n thereof_o 2._o it_o place_v the_o thing_n effect_v not_o in_o man_n but_o in_o the_o outward_a estate_n and_o condition_n of_o man_n 3._o the_o manner_n of_o work_v to_o be_v mere_o efficient_a viz._n god_n out_o of_o his_o prerogative_n royal_a discharge_v our_o account_n not_o put_v our_o sin_n to_o our_o reckon_n and_o thus_o much_o be_v sufficient_a to_o prove_v his_o total_a agreement_n with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o disagreement_n with_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o the_o nature_n of_o justification_n and_o therewith_o i_o may_v put_v a_o end_n unto_o this_o whole_a point_n but_o i_o will_v go_v a_o little_a further_o to_o the_o satisfy_n of_o the_o point_n propound_v n_z o_o 12._o etc._n etc._n wherein_o my_o labour_n will_v not_o be_v lose_v for_o that_o which_o i_o shall_v say_v will_v serve_v abundant_o to_o show_v 1._o how_o divine_o the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v determine_v in_o this_o point_n 2._o how_o little_a reason_n he_o have_v to_o depart_v from_o the_o doctrine_n of_o our_o church_n in_o this_o point_n 3._o the_o great_a reason_n that_o every_o man_n have_v to_o strive_v for_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o this_o point_n as_o for_o the_o faith_n once_o deliver_v to_o the_o saint_n against_o this_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o may_v well_o be_v conceive_v do_v thus_o dispute_v if_o no_o other_o act_n do_v concur_v unto_o the_o remit_v of_o sin_n but_o the_o act_n of_o not-imputing_a of_o sin_n than_o a_o man_n after_o remission_n of_o sin_n remain_v a_o sinner_n true_o and_o always_o foul_a and_o unclean_a but_o a_o man_n after_o remission_n of_o sin_n remain_v not_o a_o sinner_n true_o foul_a and_o unclean_a therefore_o beside_o the_o act_n of_o not-imputing_a of_o sin_n there_o be_v require_v some_o other_o act_n unto_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n viz._n the_o infusion_n of_o grace_n whereby_o the_o true_a and_o proper_a nature_n of_o sin_n be_v take_v away_o root_v out_o and_o abolish_v this_o argument_n be_v frame_v out_o of_o the_o 4._o and_o 9_o argument_n of_o bellar._n de_fw-fr bap._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 13._o and_o also_o take_v out_o of_o those_o place_n
of_o bellarmine_n allege_v no._n 13._o the_o antecedent_n part_n of_o the_o proposition_n be_v find_v the_o bap._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 13._o where_o he_o allege_v a_o passage_n out_o of_o chemnitius_n contain_v the_o same_o doctrine_n which_o i_o have_v cite_v out_o of_o the_o 9_o article_n and_o the_o homily_n at_o no._n 13._o out_o of_o which_o he_o infer_v that_o we_o say_v that_o sin_n be_v remit_v because_o it_o be_v not_o impute_v and_o we_o acknowledge_v not_o that_o it_o be_v take_v away_o and_o in_o his_o disputation_n de_fw-fr justi_fw-la lib._n 2._o c._n 9_o praeterea_fw-la and_o cap._n 11._o illud_fw-la autem_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o same_o thing_n be_v repeat_v the_o consequent_a part_n of_o the_o proposition_n and_o the_o inference_n thereof_o from_o that_o antecedent_n be_v in_o de_fw-fr justi_fw-la lib._n 2_o cap._n 7._o secundo_fw-la etc._n etc._n tertio_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o have_v assume_v negative_o the_o consequent_a part_n of_o the_o proposition_n because_o they_o deny_v the_o antecedent_n part_n of_o the_o proposition_n and_o as_o bellarmine_n say_v in_o that_o place_n de_fw-fr bap._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 13._o the_o council_n of_o trent_n sess_n 5._o can_n 5_o decree_v against_o it_o the_o assumption_n itself_o be_v their_o own_o doctrine_n as_o will_v be_v confess_v on_o all_o side_n the_o proof_n of_o the_o consequence_n seem_v to_o be_v these_o two_o thing_n 1_o the_o act_n of_o not-imputing_a do_v not_o take_v away_o sin_n confess_v by_o our_o doctrine_n no._n 13._o that_o say_v original_a sin_n be_v in_o the_o justify_v and_o in_o itself_o be_v sin_n proper_o and_o the_o spot_n of_o actual_a sin_n do_v likewise_o remain_v 2_o by_o the_o remain_v of_o sin_n that_o in_o itself_o be_v damnable_a a_o man_n be_v foul_a unclean_a and_o a_o sinner_n true_o now_o that_o i_o have_v set_v their_o disputation_n in_o true_a form_n and_o order_n i_o may_v say_v if_o m._n mountagu_n will_v maintain_v his_o doctrine_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n not_o 23_o etc._n etc._n then_o he_o must_v dispute_v thus_o too_o &_o be_v a_o worthy_a child_n to_o his_o mother_n and_o a_o famous_a refuter_fw-la of_o the_o gagger_n if_o he_o will_v not_o dispute_v thus_o he_o must_v revoke_v that_o as_o false_a in_o itself_o and_o a_o stranger_n to_o the_o church_n of_o england_n unto_o this_o argument_n many_o divine_n do_v answer_v as_o he_o allege_v appeal_v p._n 169._o in_o these_o word_n we_o be_v far_o from_o this_o absurd_a opinion_n for_o we_o teach_v with_o the_o action_n of_o god_n remit_v sin_n concur_v another_o action_n of_o divine_a grace_n enable_v man_n to_o forsake_v and_o mortify_v every_o great_a sin_n which_o god_n have_v pardon_v but_o how_o fit_a this_o answer_n be_v to_o give_v satisfaction_n to_o any_o part_n of_o that_o argument_n i_o leave_v unto_o other_o to_o judge_v because_o 1._o bellarmine_n do_v confess_v no_o less_o than_o be_v in_o that_o answer_n de_fw-fr justi_fw-la lib._n 2._o cap._n 6._o at_o the_o 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