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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A15420	A retection, or discouerie of a false detection containing a true defence of two bookes, intituled, Synopsis papismi, and Tetrastylon papisticum, together with the author of them, against diuers pretended vntruths, contradictions, falsification of authors, corruptions of Scripture, obiected against the said bookes in a certaine libell lately published. Wherein the vniust accusations of the libeller, his sophisticall cauils, and vncharitable slaunders are displayed.	Willet, Andrew, 1562-1621.	1603 (1603)	STC 25694; ESTC S114436	136,184	296

Bellarmine Augustine in diuers places and Hilarius Hippolytus Apollinarius See Tetrasty l. p. 142. 143. Bellarmine saith of Sozomene Eum multa esse mentitum that he lied in many things libr. 3. de poeniten cap. 14. Doth not the libeller himselfe grant as much We admit not the authoritie of one two or three ancient and holie fathers dissenting from the rest pag. 133. 3. But you thinke hardly that Luther should so speake of Gregories Dialogues he might well so doe because it is a booke full of fables and lies whereof the diuell is the author neither was it euer written by Gregorie for this Dialogue maketh mention of purgatorie fire lib. 4. dialog cap. 39. whereas Gregorie holdeth but two places after this life libr. 8. moral cap. 8. in these words Whether a good spirit or euill doe receiue the soule going out of the prison of the flesh it shall keepe it secum in aeternum for euer with it without any chaunge from whence being exalted it shall not be cast downe to punishment nor being drenched in eternall punishment shall ascend c. Hierome himselfe that learned father speaketh as hardly of one against whom hee had no greater cause Portat nequaquam vexillum Christi sed insigne diaboli He beareth not the banner of Christ but the ensigne of the diuell aduers. Vigilant Yet I excuse not whatsoeuer in the heate of affection might drop from Luthers pen. 4. But is not this a good argument Caluine Luther sometime refuse the Fathers Ergo the writer of SYNOPSIS speaketh contraries Secondly saith the Libeller Bellarmine in diuers controuersies plentifully citeth the fathers as in the controuersies of inuocation of Saints Pilgrimage Purgatorie vnto the which there is no answere at all but silence as Baal answered his suppliant seruants which bewraieth the insufficiencie of his booke and manifestly proclaimeth antiquitie on our side pag. 175. 176. Contrà 1. The writer of SYNOPSIS intending the profit not of the learned but of others thought it not so necessarie to handle at large the testimonies of the Fathers alleaged by the aduersarie 1. Because the booke would haue growne by this means to a greater volume then was fit for euery mans leasure to reade or their abilitie to reach 2. The treatise being in English to what purpose should Bellarmines quotations be produced in that language which the aduersary vnderstood not and so could not make answere 3. There be others that haue happily vndertaken that enterprise as that learned man whom the Libeller in his first part traduceth that Bellarmine shall not want worke 4. As Bellarmines authorities are omitted except in some principal controuersies so neither on the other side are our antiquities produced in such number as the writer out of his owne readings could haue alleaged otherwise then of their owne testimonies out of their Canons and writers specially vrged against themselues and turned vppon their owne heads 5. The speciall grounds both to confirme the trueth and conuince error in euery controuersie are to be taken from the Scriptures which hee thought most profitable for the instruction of the Reader and such places out of the Prophets and Apostles are specially and principally handled wherein hee followeth Hieromes aduise to Pammach Simplices epistolae tuae olent Prophetas Apostolos sapiunt non cothurnatam affectas eloquentiam nec more puerorum argutas sententiolas in clausulis struis Your epistles are plaine smelling of the Prophets sauouring of the Apostles you affect not curious eloquence nor as children hunt after sentences 2. Bellarmine in deede maketh great shew of antiquitie but most of his ancient testimonies are either out of forged authors or els impertinently alleaged or by him corrupted and falsified as to giue one instance for many his dealing in the controuersie of purgatorie euidently sheweth First the constitutions of Clemens Dionysius de ecclesiastic Hierarch Athanasius questions ad Antiochiam Gregories Dialogues the Liturgie of Basil Testament of Ephrem are all bastard writings which Bellarmine produceth as authenticall witnesses for Purgatorie Secondly Gregorie Nazianzen Eusebius Epiphanius Chrysostom Theodoret Theophylact Damascene are impertinently cited for Purgatorie who indeed make mention of praier for the dead but haue no one word of Purgatorie neither doth the Greeke Church beleeue that there is any purgatorie fire prooem ad concil Florentin Tertullian likewise Cyprian Ambrose Hierome are brought in to bee of the Iurie for purgatorie but they do not so much as mention it who so list to take view of their testimonies as they are cited by Bellarm. libr. 1. de purg cap. 6. Thirdly Bellarmine is found to be a falsifier as Bracarens concil 1. can 39. these words are added of his owne vt oraretur pro defunctis that praier should be made for the dead Likewise Concil 6. sub Symmacho these words are foisted in by Bellarmine Sacrilegium esse fraudare defunctorum animas orationibus That it is sacriledge to defraude the soules of the dead of prayer the Councell saith only it is sacrilege oblationes defunctorū ecclesiae auferre to take away the oblations of the dead from the Church and conuert them to other vses Wormatiens c. 10. is falsely alleaged Pro suspensis in patibulo esse sacrificandum That they must sacrifice for those that are hanged or els he had some new copie of his owne which he followed By these particular instances it may appeare what fidelitie Bellarmine hath vsed in other controuersies and how well antiquitie standeth of his side 3. Whereas it is alleaged that inuocation of Saints is prooued by Bellarmine by the Councel of Chalcedon confirmed by act of parliament Libel pag. 175. as though now by the lawes of this land it were lawfull to pray to Saints Our answere is that in deede the Church of England alloweth the decrees of the Chalcedon and of the other three generall Councels concerning the faith and their condemnation of the heresies of Arrius in the Nicen of Macedonius in the first Constantinop Nestorius in the Ephesine Eutyches in the Chalcedon but all the acts of this Councell for other matters it receiueth not 2. Neither is there any Canon or decree in this Councel extant of inuocation of Saints for that which Bellarmine bringeth is taken out of the colloquies and conferences and postscripts of the Councell not from the authoritie of any Canon or determination thereof 3. That which hee hath of the intercession of Proterius and of Flauianus Flauianus post mortem viuit martyr pro nobis oret Flauianus liueth after death let the Martyr pray for vs doth shew the opinion which they had that the Saints prayed for them which is another question Neither doth it follow that if it be graunted that the Saints doe pray for vs in generall not knowing our particular necessities not as mediators but as fellow members wishing the perfection of the rest of the bodie that therefore they should bee prayed vnto neither can it bee shewed that those Fathers made any supplication