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A66525 Infant=baptism asserted & vindicated by Scripture and antiquity in answer to a treatise of baptism lately published by Mr. Henry Danvers : together with a full detection of his misrepresentations of divers councils and authors both ancient and modern : with a just censur of his essay to palliate the horrid actings of the anabaptists in Germany : as also a perswasive to unity among all Christians, though of different judgments about baptism / by Obed Wills ... Wills, Obed. 1674 (1674) Wing W2867; ESTC R31819 255,968 543

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also_o their_o infant_n theodore_n beza_n in_o his_o abster_n cat._n heshuii_n pag._n 333._o have_v this_o passage_n meritò_fw-la arbitramur_fw-la infant_n fidelium_fw-la in_o peculio_fw-la domini_fw-la censeri_fw-la we_o right_o judge_v the_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a to_o be_v of_o the_o lord_n flock_v and_o he_o speak_v of_o they_o there_o before_o baptism_n and_o in_o our_o margin_n bible_n we_o have_v this_o note_n upon_o the_o first_o of_o corinthian_n 7.14_o they_o that_o be_v bear_v of_o either_o of_o the_o parent_n faithful_a be_v also_o count_v member_n of_o christ_n church_n because_o of_o the_o promise_n act._n 2.39_o peter_n martyr_n loc_fw-la commun_n cl_o 4._o c._n 8._o p._n 821_o 823._o non_fw-la excludimus_fw-la eos_fw-la infant_n ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la sed_fw-la ut_fw-la ejus_fw-la part_n amplectimur_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o exclude_v not_o infant_n from_o the_o church_n but_o embrace_v they_o as_o part_n john_n calvin_n to_o who_o
but_o especial_o in_o chap._n 4._o part_n 1._o about_o the_o end_n of_o baptism_n of_o which_o this_o be_v name_v for_o the_o three_o 2._o that_o it_o true_o figure_n and_o represent_v a_o death_n burial_n &_o resurrection_n and_o yet_o do_v nothing_o but_o sprinkle_v or_o pour_v a_o little_a water_n on_o the_o face_n this_o be_v another_o repetition_n be_v bring_v by_o the_o author_n for_o the_o four_o end_n of_o baptism_n and_o answer_v chap._n 4._o part_n 1._o likewise_o again_o chap._n 4._o part_n 2._o 3._o that_o faith_n and_o repentance_n be_v require_v in_o person_n to_o be_v baptise_a and_o that_o it_o be_v ridiculous_a yea_o impious_a and_o profane_a to_o do_v it_o without_o and_o yet_o confess_v that_o child_n to_o who_o they_o apply_v it_o have_v neither_o say_v no_o more_o of_o this_o for_o your_o honour_n sake_n which_o have_v already_o suffer_v much_o for_o abuse_v author_n you_o know_v baxter_n piscator_fw-la perkins_n paraeus_n calvin_n all_o speak_v of_o grow_v person_n and_o the_o last_o with_o a_o asterisk_n notandum_fw-la haec_fw-la verba_fw-la fieri_fw-la de_fw-la adultis_fw-la therefore_o say_v he_o that_o man_n offer_v themselves_o right_o to_o baptism_n confession_n of_o sin_n be_v require_v otherwise_o the_o whole_a action_n will_v be_v but_o sport_n but_o you_o must_v note_v say_v he_o that_o these_o word_n be_v speak_v of_o adult_n person_n but_o as_o for_o the_o infant_n seed_n of_o believer_n the_o case_n alter_v there_o for_o they_o be_v take_v into_o covenant_n with_o their_o parent_n it_o be_v instead_o of_o profession_n calv._n upon_o mat._n 19.28_o and_o mark_v 16.16_o look_v to_o the_o first_o chap._n part_n 1_o there_o you_o have_v a_o vindication_n of_o our_o divine_n from_o the_o infamy_n cast_v upon_o man_n as_o to_o their_o say_n about_o baptism_n in_o contradiction_n as_o he_o will_v have_v people_n believe_v to_o their_o own_o practice_n 5._o that_o the_o baptismal_a covenant_n enter_v into_o the_o visible_a church_n 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for_o baptism_n donatistas_n danaeus_n ex_fw-la lib._n 1_o august_n de_fw-fr bapt._n contra_fw-la donatistas_n be_v express_v upon_o the_o case_n in_o his_o first_o book_n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la against_o the_o donatist_n non_fw-la damnari_fw-la baptismum_fw-la christi_fw-la ab_fw-la haereticis_fw-la pastoribus_fw-la ut_fw-la nullus_fw-la censeatur_fw-la sed_fw-la damnamus_fw-la illos_fw-la qui_fw-la scientes_fw-la illic_fw-la accipiunt_fw-la that_o baptism_n be_v not_o to_o be_v condemn_v for_o a_o nullity_n which_o have_v be_v receive_v from_o heretic_n but_o such_o be_v to_o be_v condemn_v who_o know_v they_o to_o be_v such_o do_v yet_o receive_v it_o of_o they_o bucan_n state_n the_o case_n in_o his_o 16_o question_v de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la 614._o bucan_n institutiones_fw-la theolog._n loc._n 47._o quest_n 16._o p._n 614._o thus_o anne_n qui_fw-la veer_fw-la christianam_fw-la religionem_fw-la edocti_fw-la sunt_fw-la parvulos_fw-la suos_fw-la sacrificulis_fw-la pontificiis_fw-la 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evil_a that_o good_a may_v come_v thereof_o 3._o because_o we_o be_v to_o depart_v and_o go_v out_o from_o among_o they_o and_o touch_v no_o unclean_a thing_n be_v 52._o 11._o and_o to_o abstain_v from_o idol_n 1._o joh._n 5.21_o 4._o because_o if_o our_o infant_n die_v unbaptise_v we_o refuse_v to_o have_v they_o baptise_a in_o a_o superstitious_a manner_n which_o be_v best_a they_o be_v not_o thereby_o deprive_v of_o their_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n of_o god_n grace_n and_o salvation_n be_v from_o the_o covenant_n and_o not_o the_o seal_n for_o it_o be_v not_o the_o want_n but_o the_o contempt_n of_o baptism_n that_o be_v damnable_a it_o be_v on_o this_o account_n that_o the_o waldenses_n keep_v their_o child_n from_o baptism_n for_o perin_n in_o his_o history_n of_o that_o people_n tell_v we_o 15._o paul_n perin_n hist_o walden_n cap._n 4._o p._n 15._o that_o they_o delay_v the_o baptism_n of_o their_o child_n until_o their_o pastor_n come_v home_n who_o be_v employ_v 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