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A39395 An Endeavour after further union between conforming & nonconforming Protestants in several particulars by a minister of the Church of England. Minister of the Church of England. 1692 (1692) Wing E726; ESTC R43143 32,518 38

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more largely expressed must needs be sound and consonant to the Principles and Practice of the Nonconformist Brethren and may safely be subscribed by them The Words of the 34th Article are these It is not necessary that Traditions and Ceremonies be in all Places one or utterly like for at all times they have been divers and changed according to the diversity of Countries Times and Mens Manners so that nothing be ordained against God's Word Whosoever through his private Judgment willingly and purposely doth openly break the Traditions and Ceremonies of the Church which be not repugnant to the Word of God and be ordained and approved by Common Authority ought to be rebuked openly that other may fear to do the like as he that offendeth against the common Order of the Church and woundeth the Consciences of the weak Brethren Every Particular or National Church hath Authority to ordain change and abolish Ceremonies or Rites of the Church ordained only by Man's Authority so that all things be done to edifying 5. If we desire a publick Exposition of the Doctrine of the Church of England touching this matter there is that of Mr. Thomas Rogers perused and by the lawful Authority of the Church of England allowed to be publick He in that Exposition declareth that the Church hath no Power to appoint what Rites or Ceremonies she will for she must decree none which be either for their own Nature impious or for Use superstitious or for their Weight over-heavy and grievous to be born or for their Worthiness in the Eyes of the Ordainers either of equal Price or of more account than the very Ordinances of God or against the Liberty of Christians and to the entangling of them again with the Yoke of Bondage or last of all any way contrary to the Commandments Word and Will of God But the Rites Ceremonies and Constitutions of the Church they must make altogether and tend both to the nourishing and increase of Love Friendship and Quietness among Christians and also to the retaining of God's People in the holy Service Worship and Fear of God according to the Rule of the Apostle Let all things be done honestly and by Order All Churches Reformed consent hereunto So Mr. Thomas Rogers pag. 105 106. No Nonconforming Brother will gainsay this 6. The Articles do not say that the Church hath Power to decree the Cross in Baptism nor is any Man obliged by his Subscription to them to declare that she hath but only such humane Rites or Ceremonies circa Sacra as be decent useful and no way contrary to God's Word Whether the Cross in Baptism and the Surplice in particular be decent useful and no way contrary to God's Word is a Question of another nature and doth not come into the present Debate For if it should be supposed that the Church hath no Power to decree the Cross in Baptism and the Surplice as being inconvenient and no way necessary yet will it not thence follow that she hath no Power to decree such other Rites and Ceremonies circa Sacra as are confessedly expedient and useful as to swear with the right Hand lift up to Heaven or laid upon the Bible and to give notice to the People at what time to assemble for publick Worship by ringing or tolling of a Bell. Even Dr. Ames himself whom no one acquainted with Church-Affairs can suspect to have been partial in this matter and too favourable to humane Ceremonies circa Sacra doth acknowledg that if there be no Error in humane Appointment touching the Place and Hour of God's publick Worship and the like things Constitutio illa habenda sit quasi simpliciter divina Medull Theol. l. 2. c. 14. num 28. that Constitution is to be held as it were simply Divine For that the Church do assemble for God's publick Worship at that Hour which all things considered is most convenient he grants is God's Will Now the ringing or tolling of a Bell is in the Judgment of Nonconformists themselves and all other sober Persons an apt Mean a prudential Ceremony Rite or Token of Man's Appointment For notifying to the Congregation at what Hour to assemble like the use of the Silver Trumpets under the Law Numb 10. And therefore the Hour so appointed being meet and convenient for God's publick Worship according to Dr. Ames's Concession in the foresaid Place Agnosci debet quasi à Deo constituta it ought to be acknowledged as it were appointed by God and consequently the foresaid humane Ceremony whereby the Hour is notified Which is sufficient for my present Purpose that there is nothing at all in the 20th and 34th Articles of the Church of England repugnant to the Principles of the Nonconformists but a full Agreement between both Sides as to this part of Subscription 7. For my part I think that the Church hath no power to decree the Cross in Baptism or any the like humane Ceremony therein My Reason is because Baptism it self is a Divine Ceremony and the Cross is a humane Ceremony and the Church hath no power to decree and annex a humane Ceremony to a Divine it being plainly superfluous and unnecessary there is neither Precept nor Example in all the Book of God to warrant such a Decree The Church hath no Power but for Edification 2 Cor. 10.8 and 2 Cor. 13.10 She may impose none but necessary things Acts 15.28 such as be some way necessary to Order Unity or Decency in God's Service which the Cross in Baptism antecedently to humane Imposition is not It is necessary that Baptism be done in a fit Place at a meet Hour by one authorized in a decent Garment in a sit Posture with fit Words and decent external Reverence and Solemnity but there is no necessity at all of the Cross or any the like humane Ceremony in Baptism Neither the Light of Nature nor the Institution of Christ nor the Practice of the Apostles and first Churches planted by their Ministry and recorded in Scripture for a Rule and Pattern to all succeeding Churches to the end of the World do warrant any such Decree and Imposition All needful Circumstances all that is any way requisite to the orderly decent laudable holy just and exemplary dispensing and partaking of Baptism may be observed without the Cross or any the like humane Ceremony To say the contrary is to reproach the Institution of Christ and his Apostles and the Churches planted by their Ministry and to set the Wisdom of Man above the Wisdom of God and bring in Arbitrary Government into the Church and lay a Foundation for numberless unnecessary humane Ceremonies in God's Worship as in the Papacy and great Evils and Desolations in the Church by inflicting doleful Penalties upon worthy and good Men who out of Conscience refuse Conformity to such unnecessary Decrees as the Event doth sadly manifest But that it is unlawful to use the Cross in Baptism while imposed by the Supream Authority of the Nation under
pain of Deprivation is more than I can prove neither will I judg conscientious Nonconformists who meekly dissent 8. Again the Nonconforming Brethren scruple Subscription to the 35th Article of the Church of England touching Homilies which Article stands upon two Points First that the two Books of Homilies contain a godly and wholsom and necessary Doctrine Secondly that therefore they judg them to be read in Churches by the Ministers diligently and distinctly The former Point I cannot think the Nonconforming Brethren who have read the Homilies will deny The Article doth not say that there is nothing in any of the Homilies savouring of humane Weakness and Imperfection for the main they may and do contain a godly wholsom and necessary Doctrine though there may perhaps be in them some tolerable Defects as is incident to most good Books not divinely inspired and even to the best Translation of the holy Scriptures Touching the latter Point the Nonconforming Brethren by their Subscription to the 6th Article must needs own and allow that the Apocrypha-Books as Hierom saith the Church doth read for Example of Life and Instruction of Manners but yet doth it not apply to stablish any Doctrine This plainly intimates that they are not against all reading of other Books than the Bible in the Church due distinction being put between the one and the other Neither will they condemn but rather approve the French Protestant Churches heretofore who in the want of daily Pastors did in many Places use to read both privately and publickly Mr. Calvin's Sermons upon Job as Mr. Beza in his Preface to them doth relate And we may well think that this and no other was the Intention of the Composers of this Article and of the Homilies as thinking it better in the want of Pastors qualified with ministerial Gifts and Ability to compose edifying Sermons-daily and continually of their own that the People have sound and godly Sermons of others composing read to them in publick than be without all publick Instruction This Sense will well stand with the Words of the Article and it is agreeable to the Opinion both of Conforming and Nonconforming Brethren And therefore as to this also I may well conclude that there is no difference between the two Parties 9. There is but one more Article unsubscribed by the Nonconforming Brethren and that is the 36th concerning the Book of Ordination Touching which if the Episcopal Brethren will own the Nonconforming Brethren ordained by Presbyters without a Bishop to be true Ministers of Christ and their Ordination to be valid and will cordially embrace them as Brethren and Fellow-Ministers as in Conscience they are bound all other Matters will either be accorded or what cannot be fully accorded may be tolerated with mutual Brotherly Love to each other according to that Apostolical Canon Let us therefore as many as be perfect be thus minded and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded God shall reveal even this unto you Nevertheless whereto we have already attained let us walk by the same Rule let us mind the same thing Phil. 3.15 16. But if the Episcopal Brethren shall judg the Nonconforming Ministers ordained by Presbyters without a Bishop to be no Ministers of Christ and their Ordination to be null and their Baptism Preaching dispensing the Lord's Supper and all other their Ministerial Acts to be meer Nullities then there is no hope of Accord nor of Toleration with mutual Brotherly Love a Schism there is and like to be Concerning which I will set down a Passage which I find related by Mr. Clark in the Life of that eminent Nonconforming Minister Mr. Greenham On a time the Bishop of Eli sent for him to appear about his Nonconformity at which time the Bishop told him that there was a great Schism in the Church asking him where the Blame was to be laid whether upon the Conformists or Nonconformists To which he readily answered that it might lie on either side or on neither side For said he if they loved one another as they ought and would do all good Offices each for other thereby maintaining Love and Concord it lay on neither side otherwise which Party soever makes the Rent the Schism lies upon their score The Bishop was so pleased with this Answer that he dismissed him in peace 10. They who repute Men ordained by Presbyters without a Bishop to be no Ministers and their Ministerial Acts to be Nullities are not regular Sons of God's Church in England but a Sect Combination and Party of Men in it who are tainted and defiled with an uncharitable Principle contrary to one Article of the Christian Faith The Holy Catholick Church the Communion of Saints For God's Church in England doth own and embrace the Protestant Ministers in Holland France Helvetia and Geneva ordained by Presbyters without a Bishop to be true Ministers of Christ and the Churches guided by them to be true Churches This hath been the constant Doctrine of God's Church in England all along from the beginning of the Reformation to this day And unless we so hold we yield the Cause to the Papists and overthrow the Protestant Cause The Papists ask Where was our Church before Luther To which the Answer hath been often made That wheresoever upon Earth God had a People believing in the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost retaining Baptism and the Lord's Supper for Substance sound and good and living righteously soberly and godly there was our Church We are sure from God's Word and the sound Belief of all Christian People that such a Church God had upon Earth before Luther and will have to the End of the World We do not derive our Church and our Ministry from Rome and the Roman Papacy but from Christ and the holy Scriptures and the Evangelical Covenant by the Tenour whereof upon our sincere Repentance and Incorporation into Christ by lively Faith all things become ours whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the World or Life or Death or things present or things to come all are ours 1 Cor. 3.21 22. And consequently whatsoever is true just good any way useful to God and Christ Jesus and the Souls of Men among Papists Jews Turks and Heathens that becomes ours for spiritual Uses to our Souls In leaving the Papacy we have not left Christ and his Church but we have left Idolatry false Worship Superstition and the Way of Damnation and are become a found part of and joined to that holy Catholick Church which is the Mystical Body of Christ the blessed Company of all faithful People built upon the Foundation of the Prophets and Apostles Jesus Christ himself being the chief Corner-Stone Upon this Divine Foundation all the Protestant Churches stand and they who deny Ordination by Presbyters without a Bishop to be valid must will they nill they fall in with the Principles of the Papists against the whole Reformation because the Cause is common 11. The Ministry of the Nonconforming
Doctrine and Distinction but the contrary it fully assures us that the Power of Order is all the Power which Christ communicated to his Apostles and their Successors it being abundantly sufficient through his gracious Assistance and Concurrence for the ordering guiding governing and disciplining of the Church unto the end of the World And what Power of regular Jurisdiction is in Bishops distinct from the Power of Order is not Divine but Humane from Man's Law and not from God's Law And therefore if it should be supposed that Ordination by Presbyters without a Bishop is an Error as being against an innocent Law of Man yet is it not therefore null and invalid for though it ought not to be done yet being once done it is firm and valid because done by those who by God's Law are confessed to have Power to do it being equal with the Bishop as to the Power of Order it being very absurd and a Contradiction in adjecto that those should have Power to order who have no Power to ordain and that those should have equal Power to order who have not equal Power to ordain 23. True it is that besides that fixed Pastors of each particular Church there were in the primitive Times the Apostles as general Overseers who did use to visit the Churches and took care of them But this was no Act of external Jurisdiction distinct from the Power of Order but what may innocently and safely be done by an eminent Presbyter qualified with Gifts and Graces for the Work of his own free accord according to the general Rules of God's Word Mr. John Dury a Scotish Presbyter in the Reign of King Charles I. made it his business for thirty Years together purely upon a Christian Account and of his own free Heart without all colour of external Jurisdiction to visit the transmarine Churches Lutheran and Calvinistical and by writing personal Conserence and unwearied Travels to reconcile them touching Predestination Christ's Ubiquity and the Sacrament tho the Success was not answerable through the unreasonable Stiffness of the Lutheran Party And in the Reign of King Charles II. Mr. Thomas Gouge a Nonconforming Presbyter did for several Years together in Person use to visit all the Counties in Wales purely upon a Christian Account at his own Charge without all shew of external Jurisdiction having the Bible for his Warrant and the Glory of serving God and doing Good for his Reward making it his business to promote Religion and Learning An Apostolical and most blessed Work and not without great Success 24. True it is that the Distinction between Bishop and Presbyter is of great Antiquity and large Extent But that in the time of Cyprian it imported more than with us at this day doth the Distinction between the Dean and Chapter of each Cathedral Church between the Warden and Fellows of Manchester between the Parish-Minister and his Curate will not be easily proved Now all know that all these are but one Order in the Ministry and this Inequality is not at all inconsistent with the Principles and Practice of the Presbyterian Brethren 25. Finally the great Principle of those of the Church of England who hold Ordination by Presbyters without a Bishop to be invalid is this that to every Church there ought by God's Law to be a Bishop and no Bishop no Church ordinarily Now either they will stand to this their Principle or they will not If not then they undo their whole Cause and stultify themselves If yea then also their Cause cannot stand for they will not deny the Parish-Churches to be true Churches But these in England are more than nine thousand and the Diocesan Bishops are but some six and twenty Can six and twenty Men be Bishops to more than nine thousand Churches if to every Church there must be a Bishop Either then you must grant that the parish-Parish-Churches are not true Churches and then Separation from them is a Duty and you yield the Cause to the Brownists Or if you admit them to be true Churches upon your own Grounds you must needs yield that the several Parish-Ministers who are but Presbyters are as true Bishops as they are Churches and then Ordination by them without a Diocesan must needs be valid and Diocesan Bishops are no Bishops of God's making This then is the Issue of the Matter that the Parish-Ministers who are but Presbyters are Bishops of God's making and Diocesan Prelates are Bishops of Man's making The Nullity of all external Jurisdiction in the Church not derived from and dependent on the State 1. THere cannot be external Jurisdiction without external Supremacy For all Jurisdiction doth necessarily import a Supream in whose Sentence and Decision all contending Parties are to acquiesce and from whom there can be no Appeal Therefore there cannot be external Jurisdiction without external Supremacy Now under God all external Supremacy is in the State Let every Soul be subject unto the higher Powers Rom. 13.1 that is those who bear the Sword as is afterward declared ver 4. and the Context plainly shews Submit your selves to every Ordinance of Man for the Lord's sake whether it be to the King as supreme or unto Governours as unto them that are sent by him for the Punishment of Evil-doers and for the Praise of them that do well 1 Pet. 2.13 14. Herewith agrees the old Oath of Supremacy and the 37th Article of the Church of England unanimously subscribed by the Episcopal and Presbyterial Clergy 2. To set up a contrary external Jurisdiction and Supremacy in the Church is to overthrow the Nature of the Church and to undermine the State and to act contrary to the Example of Christ and his Apostles and to imitate that Man of Sin the Son of Perdition who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God or that is worshipped 2 Thess 2.3 4. 3. Christ himself considered as Man in the Days of his Flesh and State of Humiliation had no external Jurisdiction he exercised none he claimed none but disclaimed it saying My Kingdom is not of this World John 18.36 Man who made me a Judg or a Divider over you Luke 12.14 It belonged not to him to exercise external Jurisdiction but to be a Minister of the Circumcision for the Truth of God to confirm the Promises made unto the Fathers Rom. 15.8 He came not to be ministred unto but to minister and to give his Life a Ransom for many Mat. 20.28 And therefore in Obedience to God and out of Love to us he owned and submitted to the Jurisdiction of the Roman President in Judea He humbled himself and became obedient unto Death even the Death of the Cross for a Pattern to all his Followers and Disciples and to shew that his Kingdom was not of this World Phil. 2.8 John 19.11 1 Pet. 2.21 4. All external Jurisdiction is necessarily either supreme or subordinate But Christ considered as Man in his State of Humiliation had neither Not supreme for