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A02522	A common apologie of the Church of England against the vniust challenges of the ouer-iust sect, commonly called Brownists. Wherein the grounds and defences, of the separation are largely discussed: occasioned, by a late pamphlet published vnder the name, of an answer to a censorious epistle, which the reader shall finde in the margent. By I.H.	Hall, Joseph, 1574-1656.; Robinson, John, 1575?-1625. Answer to a censorious epistle.	1610 (1610)	STC 12649; ESTC S103653	113,921	160

and liuely stones 1. Kin. 5. 17. 18 6. 7. 1. pet 2. 5. and of the Cedars Firs and Thyne trees of Lebanon 2. Chr. 2. 8. framed and set together in that comely order which a greater then Salomon hath prescri●ed vnto which God hath promised his presence But whilst we take it to be as it is a confused heape of dead and defiled and polluted stones and of all rubbish of Bryers and brambles of the wildernesse for the most part fitter for burning then building we take our selues rather bound to shew our obedience in departing from it then our valour in purging it and to follow the prophets councel in flying out of Babylon as the hee goats before the flock Ie● 50. 8 Sep. And what I pray you is the valour which the best hearted and most zealous Reformers amongst you haue manifested in driuing out the Mony-changers doth it not appeare in this that they suffer themselues to be driuen out with the two stringed Whippe of Ceremonies and subscription by the Mony-changers the Chancellers and Officials which sell. sinnes like Doues and by the chiefe priests the Bishoppes which set them on worke so farre are the most zealous amongst you from driuing out the Mony-changers as they themselues are driuen out by them because they will not change with them to the vtmost farthing Bar. Refor without Tar. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 VVee charge him not to serue any more So Can. 15. Can. 25. Cum compertū fuerit deponatur Can. 10. De Clericatus honore periclitabitur Can. 2. E clero deponatur sit alienus a Canone Can. 17. et Can. 18. A ministerio cessare debuerit Concil Sardic c. 4. Cōcil Carth. 4. c. 48. 56. 57. Leo. Ep. 1. Sect. 5. Cypr. l. 3. Ep. 9. S●cr l. 2. c. 21. Bar ag Gyff p. 27. 88. Sep. For the Wafers in Geneua and disorders in Corinth they were corruptions which may and doe or the like vnto them creep into the purest Churches in the world for the reformation wherof Christ hath giuen his power vnto his Church that such euils as are brought in by humane frailty may by diuine authority bee purged out This power and presence of Christ you want holding all by homage or rather by vilenage vnder the Prelates vnto whose sinfull yoake you stoup in more then Babylonish bondage bearing and approuing by personall communion infinite abhominations Troubl Excom at Amsterd An tu solus Ecclesia es Et qui te offenderit a Christo excluditur Hieron Eriphan Cypr. Solus in caelum ascend Pupianus Et ad Acesium Nouatianum Constant. Erigito tibi scalam Acesi ad caelum solus ascendito Socr. l. 1. C. 7. Bar. Gyff ref So some of their owne haue termed their excommunication Confess by M. Iohns Inqu p. 65 Col. 1. 18. Sep. And in these two last respects principally your Babylonish confusion of all sorts of people in the body of your Church without separation and your Babylonish bondage vnder your spirituall Lords the Prelates we account you Babylon and flie from you Amari Parens Episcopus debet non timeri Hier. ad Theophilum Sep. M. H hauing formerly expostulated with vs our supposed impietie in forsaking a ceremonious Babylon in England proceeds in the next place to lay downe our madnesse in chusing a substantiall Babylon in Amsterdam and if it be so found by due trial as he suggesteth it is hard to say whether our impiety or madnes be the greater Sep. Belike M. H. thinkes we gather churches here by towne-rowes as they doe in England and that all within the parish procession are of the same Church Wherefore else tels hee vs of Iewes Arrians and Anabaptists with whom we haue nothing common but the streetes and market-place It i● the condition of the Church to liue in the world and to haue ciuill society with the men of this world 1. Cor. 5. 10. Ioh. 17. 13. But what is this to that spirituall communion of the saints in the fellowshippe of the Gospell wherin they are separated and sanctified from the world vnto the Lord Ioh 17. 16. 1. Cor. 1. 2. Cor. 6. 17. 18. Separation from the world how required Ioh. 17. 16. 1. Cor. 1. 2. 1. Cor. 3. 3. Sep. We indeed haue much wickednes in the Citie where we liue you in the Church ●ut in earnest doe you imagine we account the Kingdome of England Babylon or the citie of Amsterdam Syon It is the Church of England or state Ecclesiasticall which we account Babylon and from which we withdraw in spirituall communion ●ut for the common-wealth and Kingdome as we honor it aboue all the states in the world so wold we thankfully embrace the meanest corner in it at the extreamest conditions of any people in the Kingdome Cassand de Offic boni viri Bellar. de Laicis Euseb. in vita Const. Fr. Iohns Articles ag the Fr● and Dutch Churches Bar. ag Gyss Counrtepoys Sep. The hellish impieties in the citie of Amsterdam doe no more preiudice our heauenly communion in the Church of Christ then the frogs lyce flyes moraine and other plagues ouerspreading Egypt did the Israelites when Goshen the portion of their inheritance was free Exod 8. 19. nor then the deluge wherewith the whole world was couered did Noah when he and his family were safe in the Arke Gen. 7. nor then sathans throne did the Church of Pergamus being established in the same citie with it Re● 2. 12 13. Sep. It is 〈◊〉 will of God and of Christ that his Church should abide in the world and conuerse with it in the affaires therof which are common to both But it is the Apostasie of Antichrist to haue communion with the vvorld in the holy things of God which are the peculiars of the Church and cannot without great sacriledge be so prostituted and prophaned Duobus mod● non te ma●ulat malus vid●licet si non consentis si redarg●is d. 23. q. 4. a malis Sep. The ayre of the Gospell which you draw in is nothing so free and cleare as you make shevv it is only because you are vsed to it that makes you so iudge 1. Canons Sep. The thicke smoake of your Canons especially of such as are planted against the Kingdome of Christ the visible Church and the administration of it do both obscure and poyson the ayre which you all draw in and wherein you breath 2. Sinne vncensured Sep. The plaguy-spirituall-leprosie of sinne rising vp in the foreheads of so many thousands in the Church vnshut vp vncouered infects all both persons and things amongst you Leu. 13. 45. 46. 47. 2. cor 6 17. Certe nullius crimen maculat nescientem Aug. Ep. 48. 1. Reg. 19. 18. 3. Heirarchy Sep. The blasting Hierarchie suffers no good thing to grow or prosper but withers all both budde and branch 4. Seruice-booke Sep. The daily sacrifice of the seruice-booke which in stead of spirituall prayer sweete as incense you offer vp morning and

by our holy Martyrs fol. 62. What separation England hath made fol. 63. The maine grounds of Separation fol. 65. The truth and warrant of the Ministery of England fol. 66. Confused Communion of the prophane fol. 70. Our Errours intermingled with Truth fol. 71. Whether our Prelacie be Antichristian fol. 74. The iudgement and practise of other Reformed Churches fol. 77. Our Synodes determination of things indifferent fol. 78. Sinnes sold in our Courts fol. 81. Our loyaltie to Princes cleared theirs questioned fol. 84. Errours of Free will c. fained vpon the Church of England fol. 86. Kneeling at the Sacrament of the Lords Supper fol. 87. Whether our Ordinarie and Seruice-Booke be made Idols by vs. fol. 89. Marriage not made a Sacrament by the Church of England fol. 95. Commutation of Penance in our Church fol. 98. Oath ex Officio fol. 99. Holy-daies how obserued in the Church of England 100. Our approbation of an vnlearned Ministery disproued fol. 102. Penances inioyned in the Church of England fol. 103. The practises of the Church of England concerning the Funerals of the dead fol. 104. The Churches still retained in England fol. 108. The Founders and Furnitures of our Churches fol. 110. On what ground Separation or Ceremonies was obiected fol. 112. Estimation of Ceremonies and subiection to the Prelates fol. 114. The state of the Temple and of our Church in resemblance fol. 117. Whether Ministers should endure themselues silenced fol. 119. Power of reforming abuses giuen to the Church and the issue of the neglect of it fol. 121. The view of the sinnes and disorders of others wherupon obiected and how farre it should affect vs. fol. 124. The nearenesse of the State and Church and the great errours found by the Separatists in the French and Dutch Churches fol. 127. Conuersation with the world fol. 132. The impure mixtures of the Church of England fo 133. The iudgement of our owne and our neighbours of our Church fol. 137. The issue of Separation fol. 140 The Brownists scornefull opinion of our people fol. 143. The Conclusion from the fearefull aunswere of Separation fol. 144. Errata Read welbeloueds for welbelouedst Epist pa. vlt. Con●iction for coniunction pag. 32. line 19. Vncharitablenesse for vnchariblenesse pag. 47. line 18. Optat. lib. 3. for Opt. lib. 30. marg pag. 49. Rules of Christ for rules Christ. pag. 50. line 1. Places onwards for places onwards pag. 66. line 18. Our Ministerie for your Ministerie pag. 67. line 8. That houses for what houses pag. 80. line 16. waryof for weary of pag. 88. line 16. shrifte for strife pa. 99. l. 12 Enuie for annoy pag. 103. line 13. Ingenuously for ingeniously pag. 104. line 19 which are in for which are in pag. 107. line 13. Besides many quotations in the margent are misplaced the matter will leade the Reader to the right place The words of the aduersarie are onely those which haue this Note of Sep. set before them Meam iniuriam patiētertuli impietatem contra Spōsam Christi ferre non potui Hier ad Vigilant Zach. 8. 19. Matth. 18. 7. Otho Frising ex Philon. Vr. Chaldaeorum Ruffiin Eccl●s hist. l. 2. c. 26. Dan. 3. Vid. Treatis of certain● godly Minist ag Barr. 1. Retorted S●p It is a hard thing euen for sober minded men in cases of controuersie to vse soberly the aduantages of the times vpon which whilst men are mounted on high they vse to behold such as they oppose too ouerlie and not without contempt and so are oft times emboldened to roule vpon them as from aloft very weake and weightlesse discourses thinking any sleight and slender opposition sufficient to oppresse those vnderlings whom they haue as they suppose at so great an aduantage Vpon this very presumption it commeth to passe that this Author vndertaketh thus solemnly and seuerely to censure a cause whereof as appeareth in the sequell of the discourse hee is vtterly ignorant which had he beene but halfe so carefull to haue vnderstood as hee hath beene forward to censure hee would either haue beene I doubt not more equall towards it or more weightie against it * 2. Confuted * Hier. Marco presbyt De cauernis cellularum damnamus orbem in sacco cinere volutati de Episcopis sententiam ferimus Quid facit sub tunica paenitentis regius animus Cypr. l. 3. Ep. 9. Haec sunt initia haereticorum vt sibi placean vt praepositum superbo tumore contemnant Harison once theirs in Psal. 122. of Brown Antichristian pride and bitternes Bredw pref M Brinsly his pref to the 2. part of the VVatch. Optat. Mil. de Donat. Collegae non eritis si●o litis fratres estis c. Disclaimed by themselues Answer against Broughton page 21. Separat schism M. Giff. an ignorant Priest Barr. p. 64. Confer of D. And. M. Huchius with Barrow M. Spr. 3. 〈◊〉 siderat Iren. l. 1. Per singulos dies nouum aliquod adsectant c. * Bar. Confer with Hutchins fo 1. Browne estat● of true Christians Defence of true Christians against the Doct. of Oxford Iohnson against Iacob passim Barr. against Gyfford Sepa As this Epistle is come to mine hands so I wish the answere of it may come to the hands of him that occasioned it Intreating the Christian Reader in the name of the Lord vnpartially to behold without either preiudice of cause or respect of person what is written on both sides and so from the Court of a sound conscience to giue iust iudgement To M. Smith and M. Rob. Ring-leaders of the late separation at Amsterd Charact. of the Beast written by M. Smith Pref. Be it knowne therefore to all the separation that we account them in respect of their constitution to be as very an Harlot as either her Mother the Church of England or her Grandmother Rome is c. Iterato Baptizatus scienter it erato Dominum crucifigit De consecr dist 4. Qui vis c. * The crime of separation how great Sep. The crime here obiected is separation a thing very odious in the eyes of all them from whom it is made as euermore casting vpon them the imputation of euill whereof all men are impatient And hence it commeth to pass● that the Church of England can better brooke the vilest persons continuing communion with it then any whomsoeuer separating from it though vpon neuer so iust and well grounded reasons Vid. Iohnson Preface to his Inquirie Esay 5. 20. M. Penry in his Disc. of this subiect Num. 16 31. ●xod 32. 30. Prou. 21. 2. Sepa And yet separation from the world and so from the men of the world and so from the Prince of the world that raigneth in them and so from whatsoeuer is contrarie to God is the first steppe to our communion with God and Angels and good men as the first steppe to a Ladder is to leaue the earth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Num. 18. 14 Num. 16. 9. Deut. 10. 1. Exod. 13. 12. Leuit. 15. 21. Deut.