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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A47042	Saint Patricks purgatory containing the description, originall, progresse, and demolition of that superstitious place / by Henry Jones ...	Jones, Henry, 1605-1682.	1647 (1647)	Wing J946; ESTC R16600	121,914	152

he wanted the Irish-tongue To whom the King said I will God willing find out for you a good interpreter and Owen being called the King commanded him to goe with Gilbert that with him hee might remaine in Ireland which the knight most willingly assented unto and continued with Gilbert to whom he did carefully minister and was desirous to take the habit of a Monke as being a servant fore-chosen by the Lord. Into Ireland they went and built the Abbey where the Monke Owen was his interpreter and faithfull servant but whensoever the monke Gilbert was private with the Knight hee was very inquisitive of the state of Purgatory and the wonderfull terments which he saw and by experience had learned And from this Gilbert Saltericusis receiveth the relation The aforesaid narration the said Gilbert did often repeate in my hearing saith Henry himselfe according as he had often heard it from the Knight Where I passe over the ignorant and grosse mistake of our Author in making Stephen King of England to have any power of disposing of land in Ireland as by the most learned Primate is justly observed whereas the succeeding King Henry the second was the first who could clayme there Let us proceed to view the severall Actors in this Sceane and whom have we in this Monkish age but all Monks as Henry Matthew Gilbert and Owen to whom adde Florentianus whom anon we shall see enter and act his part too on this stage Of Matthew Paris I have not much to say he being but Henry's transcriber setting aside his affectionate manner of expressing the matter sutable to the superstition of his times and his order setting aside also his partiall taking up ungrounded reports and adding thereunto of his owne many things in that kinde besides what he hath out of Salteriensis But our first Author is Henry of Saltry if we allow it not rather to Gilbert so stirring in the plot of whom Matthew thus By the industrie and diligence of this Monke he meaneth Gilbert and the Knights owne experience this is reduced to writing together with the relation of the Bishops of that Region and of other religious men who to verifie the truth thereof have thereunto given their testimonie How many Bishops or other hands or votes were given to it wee know not no such thing being to be seene But if any I dare assure my selfe Florentianus would be one For that Henry of Saltry was wholly led or rather misléd by these two Florentianus the Bishop and Gilbert the monke Henry's owne words will apparantly discover Gilbert is Henry's first Relator from whom he heareth of this matter in the presence of many others as before was shewed in which number saith Henry there was one present who said he doubted much if any such thing had happened Neither is Henry himselfe fully satisfied in it howsoever credulous enough but desireth further satisfaction therein Therefore to use his owne words when I did heare of all these things I did conferre with two Abbots of Ireland desiring to be better informed of these things One of them answered that he never heard of the like things in his Countrey But the other affirmed that he had often heard of them saying that all of them were true and further adding that seldome any of those that went into that Purgatory did ever returne Which last were it true we might well suspect some foule dealing making some of the Pilgrimes away secretly to confirme their fabulous Legend And whereas this Relator strayneth so farre as to say that few of them returned who went into that Purgatory Wee must imagine that there were but few that would adventure thither For if many did goe in and but few returned how commeth that mincing of the number before that some have gone in who never returned or that other that there were two companies lost and that a third is yet to be taken away not two onely not a small ' some but most perished if this be true Yet before we proceed further let us heare Thomas Messingam how hee doth render these words out of Henry But when I saith Salteriensis had heard all these things I consulted with two Irish Abbots concerning the same whereof one of them answered that all these things were true and testified further that many who went in did never returne In Henry's words it is that seldome any returned in his that many returned not by the ambiguity thinking to hide the other But this is not all We did heare but one of those Abbots speake what said the other of that not a word in Messingam and why because hee did not speake to the purpose For hee had said that in his Countrey he did heare no such thing This is omitted and silently passed over as fearing it might raise some scruple in the businesse which hee desired should runne smoothly without any rub Henry proceedeth Lately also did I speake with one who was Nephew of Patrick the third of that name the Companion of Saint Malachias by name Florentianus in whose Bishopricke as he said that Purgatory was Hence we gather him to be Bishop of Clogher for there that Iland is of whom having curious●y enquired he answered truly Brother that place is within my Bishopricke and many miscarry in that Purgatory and they that perchance returne it was but a chance did by reason of the extreamitie of the torments which they endured alwayes looke pale through a continuall languor wannesse Than which what more ridiculous how many thousands have gone in thither that never saw any torment or sight other than what a fantasticall braine could present in a dreame or that ever changed colour for the matter if they blushed not rather at the foolishnesse of the reports But of this more hereafter Where we see Henry's grounds hee is first told it by Gilbert and confirmed in it by Florentianus demand their cause of knowledge and Gilbret telleth you the report was made to him by Owen himselfe whom if you will beleeve you may for there are we at the height of our evidence Now what reason Salteriensis had to rely on the credit of these men so much as he did will appeare in that these two were his Tutors and instructors whose words he must not question Henry of Saltry an English Monke of the Cistercian Order was by Florentianus an Irish Bishop and Gilbert of Luda Abbot of the Cistercian Monkes instructed in learning and in the precepts of good living as it is in Messingam with whom agreeth Iohn Pits Partly in his owne Monasterie partly by Florentianus an Irish Bishop Gilbert of Luda Abbot of the Cistercians hee was instituted in learning and in the rules of well living of whom also Bale us thus Of him speaking of Henry it was written that he was deluaèd by the impostures of one Florentianus a Bishop of the Irish and deceived by the cunning of Gilbert of

Viscount to that Purgatory to be purged with him But this is not all For secondly after the decease of Charles the fourth King of France there succeeded in the yeare 1328. Phillip of Valois to whom in England Edward the third was Contemporary this Edward began his Reigne anno 1326. two yeares before and dyed in the fifty first yeare of his Reigne To him succeeded Richard the second here spoken off And in a Parliament held anno 1385. which was the ninth year of Richards Reigne was Roger Mortimer Earle of March proclaimed Heire apparant to the Crowne Shortly after which this Roger sailed into Ireland where he was Deputy at which time this pilgrimage was said to be for from the French King he brought letters to Richard and from Richard to the Earle of March then Deputy But deducting two yeares from the fifty and one yeares of Edward the third the remaine is fortie nine to which adde nine yeares of Richards Reigne at which time the Earle of March was Deputy it maketh up fifty and eight yeares so that by this computation this Pilgrimage must have beene 58. yeares before this yeare of Richard and as many before the Earle of March for so long is there between the yeare 1328. 1386. The time of his being Deputy and how these things will hang together I see not Neither can this be supposed to be such a mistake as that the figures might be mis printed 1328. for 1386. for in the Margent of that Legend the figures are 1328. but in the body of the Discourse it is thus at large I did set forward in the yeare after the birth of our Lord One thousand three hundred twenty and eight And the same Author in another booke set out since relating the same story hath it in the same words at large In the yeare one thousand three hundred twenty and eight not in figures But it is yet more inconsistent For Richard King of England is said to be Sonne in Law to the then French King unto whom Letters recommendatory are brought by the Viscount from his Father in Law True it is that Richard was affianced unto Isabell daughter of Charles the sixt of France but that was so farre from being in the yeare One thousand three hundred twentie and eight that is was in the year one thousand three hundred ninty six that is sixty and eight years after Neither could it be when the Earle of March was Deputie of Ireland which was about the yeare One thousand three hundred eightie and five nine or ten yeares before so that either Richard was not Son in Law to the French King or the Earle of March was not Deputy when the Viscount came into Ireland Neither is it lesse absurd which is added That the Earle of March the Deputy having received the King and Queene of Englands letters did honourably receive him For what Letters could the Queen write shee was but seven years old when he was as I said affianced to Richard and not full twelve when by the Lord Henry Piercy she was brought backe into France after Richards death Neither could she write to the Earle of March being Deputy of Ireland unlesse we should suppose her to have written three or foure yeares before she was borne And as foolishly is the Earle of March made to be Richards brothers Sonne Richard having no Brother he being the sole surviving Sonne of Edward the black Prince And Roger Mortimer being the great grandchild of Edward the Third descended from Philip daughter of Lionell third sonne of Edward the Third which Lionell was brother to that Edward the black Prince and Uncle to Richard So that considering this Masse of absurdities from first to last any one I suppose may well guesse how false this Legend is and this Imposture may give just cause to suspect this and all others of the like Fables But I much wonder that the translator O Sullevan whose faculty was singular that way did not helpe out the matter better than he hath done but either he saw it not or if he did he thought it dangerous to stirre in it and to raise up any doubts supposing it might as well passe after as hitherto it had without discovery thinking it may be that none would so farre question it Neither could O Sullevan be so simple as to conceive such a childish dreame could passe without some observation therefore to prevent it he laboureth to cast a mist before his Readers eyes If this History saith he be in any thing which we have shewed in many things if not in all hard to be beleeved what then Let him that desireth to be satisfied reade Dionysius Carthusianus who reporteth like Histories of others who returned from this Purgatory But what are like Histories to this what if they be as false as this But Dionysius saith he doth prosecute the matter at large answering all Arguments and doubts that can be made against it This indeed is to some purpose if so it prove but I rather suspect this to be O Sullevans cunning to direct the Reader and take him off from prying too neare into that of the Viscount yet least we may seeme to prejudicate him let us heare what Dionysius doth say to this purpose First saith he Dionysius confirmeth this by the like Relations He indeed among other Histories proving that Soules departed are purged in such flames giveth us one of Tondall an Irish Knight who lived about Henry of Saltry's dayes He Balaeus speaking of that Henry flourished then when Tondall the Carthusian in Ireland being revived returned to his owne from Purgatory reporting visions calling him a Carthusian whom in others we reade a Knight it may be as Owen the Knight putting himselfe into the Cistercian Order so he into the Carthusians Neither were they farre distant from each other both Owen and Tondall being in K. Stevens dayes this last being about the twelfth yeare of his Reigne both which administred abundant matter for Henry to write The Legend of Tondall is this in effect that his Soule was separated from his bodie three dayes like that which we before did reade of Tymarchus whose Soule was sent on the like errand two dayes and one night In this differing from that of Owen whose body also went along This Soule of Tondall is by an Angell conducted into Purgatory where it saw many strange things among the rest a beast of incredible greatnesse which may easily be believed whose mouth seemed capable of nine thousand armed men just nine thousand within whom were many thousands of men and women grievously tormented this was a thing not observed by Owen the Knight or that our Viscount for this Purgatory is beholding to these great Titles of Viscounts and Knights for the upholding of the credit of it but to goe on This Soule of Tondall is brought to a place where over a lake there was a bridge two miles long and but one palme broad full