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A91309	Truth triumphing over falshood, antiquity over novelty. Or, The first part of a just and seasonable vindication of the undoubted ecclesiasticall iurisdiction, right, legislative, coercive power of Christian emperors, kings, magistrates, parliaments, in all matters of religion, church-government, discipline, ceremonies, manners: summoning of, presiding, moderating in councells, synods; and ratifying their canons, determinations, decrees: as likewise of lay-mens right both to sit and vote in councells; ... In refutation of Mr. Iohn Goodwins Innocencies Triumph: my deare brother Burtons Vindication of churches, commonly called Independent: and of all anti-monarchicall, anti-Parliamentall, anti-synodicall, and anarchicall paradoxes of papists, prelates, Anabaptists, Arminians, Socinians, Brownists, or Independents: whose old and new objections to the contrary, are here fully answered. / By William Prynne, of Lincolnes Inne, Esquire.	Prynne, William, 1600-1669.	1645 (1645)	Wing P4115; Thomason E259_1; ESTC R212479	202,789	171

have else-where manifested In King Henry the 3. his Raign I finde these severall printed Acts of Parliament made concerning the Church Bishops Abbots Clergymen and Ecclesiasticall affaires which you may peruse at pleasure 9. H. 3. c. 1. 5. 18. 31. 33. 36 37. The Charter of the Forrest 9. H. 3. c. 4. 11. 16. 20. H. 3. c. 9. 51. H. 3. c. 10. 12. 28. besides those Recorded by Matthew Paris In King Edward the first his Raigne there were these Acts to like purpose 3 E. 1. which begins with this Prologue Because our Soveragine Lord the King had given power to redresse the State of the Realme c. for the common profit of holy Church and of the Realme And because the State of holy Church hath ever been kept c. c. 1 2. 46. 4 E. 1. c. 6. 7 E. 1. the Statute of Mor●main 13. E. 1. c. 5. 19. 29. 31 32 33. 41 42 43. 48. Circumspecte agatis 13 E. 1. commonly called a Statute though 19 E. 3. Fitz. Iurisdiction 28. it be adjudged none The Statute upon the Writ of Consultation 24 Ed. 1. The confirmation of the Charters of the Liberties of England 25 E. 3. c. 4. 6. The Statute concerning certain Liberties granted to the Commons The Statute of Carlisle 25. E. 1. See Cookes 5. Report of the Kings Ecclesiasticall Law f. 13. 34. E. 1. c. 6. In King Edward the seconds dayes I meet with the Statute of A●ticuli Cleri 19 E. 2. which wholly concernes the Clergy their Courts Tythes Rights The Statute de Prerogativa Regis c. 1. 8. 10. 14 15. and Articles against the Kings Prohibition In King Edward the third his Regency I finde very many Statutes concerning the Clergie and all kinde of Church affaires as namely 1 E. 3. Stat 2. c. 10 11. 4 E. 3. c. 6. 5 E. 3. c. 2. 9 E. 3. Stat. 2. c. 1. 14 E. 3. stat 1. c. 1. 17. and stat 3 made for the Clergy the Prologue and c. 1 2 3 4 5. 15 E. 3. stat 1. c. 1. 6. Parl. 3. c. 6. 18 E. 3. stat 3. for the Clergie c. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7. 23 E. 3. c. 8. 25 E. 3. stat 3 for the Clergie c. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8. 25 E. 3. stat 6. of Provisions 27 E. 3. stat 1. c. 1. of Provisions 28 E. 3. c. 14. 31 E. 3. stat 1. c. 4. 11. 13 14. 36 E. 3. c. 8 concerning Priests Salaries c. 38 E. 3. stat 2. against provisors and Appeales to Rome c. 1 2 3 4 5. 45 E. 3. c. 3. 50 E. 3. c. 1. 4 5. To which I shall adde only this observation That the prologues to the statutes of 1 E. 3. stat 2. 2 E. 3 stat 3. 28 E. 3. 38 E. 3. stat 1. and 50 E. 3. with others begin thus To the honour of God and of HOLY CHVRCH and redresse of the oppressions of the people c. these ensuing Acts were made granted to testifie that even in those dayes our Parliaments first began with matters of God and the Church and settled them by Lawes as there was occasion and then proceeded to temporall matters and grievances the very Statute of Magna Charta having the same prologue wherein you may discerne this method pursued and in most subsequent Parliaments I shall adde to these printed Acts 6 E. 3. num 5. prohibiting Bishops to meddle in matters of the peace 45 E. 3. num 15. removing Bishops from all temporall Offices 50 E. 3. num 99. 103. complaining against popish Cardinals 40 E. 3. num 7 8. a notable Record against the Popes claime to the Kingdome of England by vertue of K. Johns grant 17 E. 3. num 59 60. 18 E. 3. num 59 60. 38 E. 3. num 7. 50 E. 3. num 85. 87 88. complaining against yea restraining the Popes exactions and usurpations as the cause of all plagues 50 E. 3. num 46 47. complaining against the Canons of the Clergy and 47 E. 3. num 24. against Ordinaries incroaching upon the civill Iurisdiction To proceed to King Richard the second the Statutes in the first yeare of his Raigne have this Preface Richard by the Grace of God c. Know that to the honour of God and reverence of holy Church for to nourish peace unity and concord in all the parts of the Realme c. We have ordained and established certain Statutes c. First it is agreed and established that holy Church shall haue and enjoy all her rights liberties and franchises wholly and without blemish c. The confirmation of Magna Charta with other temporall Laws next follow then c. 13 14 15. three Lawes for paying of Tythes and freeing Clergymen from arrests during their exercising of divine Service The second Parliament in ● Rich. 2. hath the like prologue To the honour of God and holy Church cap. 1 confirmes the franchises liberties of the Church 3. R. 2. C. 1 doth the like c. 3. is a Statute against Provisions from Rome to avoyd Nonresidency to provide for instruction of the people by preaching and reforme many abuses in the Church occasioned by provisions made at the complaints clamors and divers Petitions of the Kings Leige people delivered in divers Parliaments to reforme these abuses 5. R. 2. cap. 1. hath the like preface c. 1. confirmes the Churches liberties 5. R. 32. Parl. 2. c. 5. Is a Statute made at the Clergies motion to suppresse haresies and Errors contrary to the Christian faith and to imprison haeretickes and erronious Preachers till they justifie themselves according to the Law and reason of holy Church 6 Rich. 2. Stat. 1. hath the like prologue and c. 1. Ordaines and accords that our holy Mother the Church of England have all her Liberties whole and unhurt and the same fully enjoy and use 7 Rich. 2. hath the same prologue c. 8. the like confirmation of the Churches priviledges and c. 12. prohibits Provisions from Rome 8 Rich. 2. hath the like preface and enacts in the first chapter That holy Church have all her liberties 9. R. 2. c 4. 5. concerns Ordinaries Priors dative and perpetuall and Preists 10. R. 2. c. 1. saves pontificall dignity and priviledge of holy Church and cleares all in all things aforesaid 11. R. 2. c. 3. declares that Bishops ought not to be present or voting in Parliament in matters of blood 1. 2. R. 2. c. 1. confirmes the Churches liberties Chap. 7. exempts pilgrimes from the punishments of Vagrants and c. 15. prohibits Provisions from any forraign power 13. R. 2. recites That the acts therein passed were to the honour of God and holy Church c. and c. 13. prohibits hunting on holy-dayes and Priests to keepe Dogs who have not livings to a certaine value c. 18 concernes the Bishop and Deane of Lincolne and c. 29. Pilgrimes 13. R. 2. Parl. 2. c. 23. provides for the election of Bishops and all other ecclesiasticall

Articles of Religion and enjoyning subscription thereunto under penalties losse of Benefices and other Ecclesiasticall penalties Limiting likewise the age of such who are to be made Ministers ch 17. Concerning the Leases of Benefices and Ecclesiasticall livings with Cure 18. Eliz. c. 6. Concerning the taking away of Clergy c. 23 Eliz. c. 1. To retain the Queens Majesties subjects in their due obedience made against Jesuits Semenary Priests and others receiving Orders from Rome and the harbourers of them under capitall penalties 27. Eliz. c. 2. Against Jesuits Seminary Priests and such other disobedient persons 29. Eliz. c. 6. Concerning Recusants 31. Eliz. c. 1. Against Symony 35 Eliz. c. 1. Against Seperatists and Schismaticks refusing conformity to our Church Service and Liturgie who are lyable to imprisonment fines and other penalties for it by the Law ch 2. For restraining Popish Recusants to some certaine plate of abode 29 Eliz. c. 8. For confirmation of the Deprivation of divers Bishops and Deanes in the beginning of the Queens Raigne ch 22. Concerning the Bishop of Norwich are plentifull evidences of what I plead for In King James his Raigne I finde many Acts of Parliament asserting the Kings and Parliaments Ecclesiasticall jurisdictions as 1 Jacobi c. 1● Concerning the Kings Title to the Crowne ch 2. Concerning Archbishopricks and Bishopricks ch 5. For the due execution of the Statutes against Jesuites Seminary Priests Recusants ch 12. Against second marriages till former wives or husbands bee dead ch 31. For building a new Church in Melcombe Regis to be the Parish Church of Radepoll and for making the Church of Radepoll a Chappell to it 3 Jacobi c. 3. for a publick thanksgiving to Almighty God every yeare on the fift day of November for the deliverance from the hellish Gunpowder treason ch 4. For the better discovering and suppressing of Popish Recusants which prescribes a new oath of Allegiance ch 5. To prevent and avoyd danger which may grow by Popish Recusants which likewise prohibits the Importations of any Popish Books Agnus Dei Crucifixes c. ch 20. To restraine abuses of Players 21. Jacobi ch 17. Against Usury ch 20. To prevent and reforme prophane swearing and cursing The Statutes in King Charles his Raigne are punctuall evidences of the Soveraign Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction of our Kings Parliaments in all which we find not onely severall Committees appointed concerning Religion frequent in all Queene Elizabeths and King James their Parliaments but also sundry Statutes concerning Religion and Church-matters as namely 1 Carols c. 1. For punishing divers abuses committed on the Lords day 3 Caroli c. 1. For further reformation of divers abuses on the Lords day ch 2. To restraine the passing or sending of any to be Popishly bred beyond the Seas But the severall Acts Ordinances and Proceedings of this present Parliament concerning all matters of Religion Church government and Ecclesiasticall affaires are presidents beyond all exception The Acts already passed For suppressing the High-Commission disabling any Clergy-man to meddle with any temporall offices or to be Justices of Peace The taking away of Bishops Votes and their sitting in the House of Peers The severall Acts Votes Ordinances which have passed both House for abolishing all new Canons Plaralities Non-residence punishing of scandalous Ministers Sanctifying the Lords day Keeping of Monethly and other Fasts Celebrating speciall dayes of thanksgiving for sundry Discoveries Victories Prohibiting the printing of erroneous books Suppressing Antinomians Socinians Anabaptists and other Sectaries Abolishing all Innovations Superstitions Idolatreus pictures Images Altars Copes Tapers Royals c. Payment of Tythes Probate of Wills Ordination of Ministers and above all their nominating and convening an Assembly of conscientious pious reverend learned orthodox Divines to assist them in reforming all errors and corruptions in Doctrine Worship Government Discipline and establishing such a pure Worship and Church-government in our Realme as shal be most agreeable to Gods Word wherein they have made a large progresse already the Directory for Worship being now finished and we expect a full accomplishment of this much desired Worke ere long All these with infinite other particulars are a most satisfactory and unanswerable evidence of the Parliaments jurisdiction and Legislative power in all matters of Religion Worship Government Discipline and other Ecclesiasticall things or proceedings whatsoever none of which have ever been settled among us in any age in a legall and obligatory way but onely in and by Parliaments I shall close up these 〈◊〉 Domestick authorities with the Ordinance of both Houses of Parliament concerning the present Assembly of Divines wherein all may clearly discerne the jurisdiction of our Parliaments in all Church affaires matters of Religion and over the Assembly it selfe together with the Instructions or Ruled prescribed to the Assembly which they have punctually observed and submitted to not yet in print An Ordinance of the Lords and Commons in Parliament for the calling of an Assembly of learned and godly Divines and others to be consulted with by the Parliament for the setling of the Government and Liturgy of the Church of England and for vindicating and clearing of the Doctrine of the said Church from false uspertions and interpretations WHereas amongst the infinite blessings of Almighty God upon this Nation none is or can be more deate unto us then the purity of our Religion and for that as yet many things remaine in the Lyturgy Discipline and Government of the Church which doe necessarily require a further and more perfect reformation then as yet hath been attained And whereas it hath been declared and resolved by the Lords and Commons assmbled in Parliament that the present Church-Government by Archbishops Bishops their Chancellors Commissaries Deanes Deanes and Chapters Archdeacons and other Ecclesiasticall Officers depending upon the Hierarchy is evill and justly offensive and bu●thensome to the Kingdome a great impediment to reformation and growth of Religion and very prejudicial to the state and government of this Kingdome and that therefore they are resolved that the same shall be taken away and that such a Government shall be setled in the Church as may be most agreeable to Gods holy Word and most apt to procure and preserve the peace of the Church at home and neerer agreement with the Church of Scotland and other reformed Churches abroad and for the better effecting hereof and for the vindicating and clearing of the doctrine of the Church of England from all false calumnies and aspersions It is thought fit and necessary to call an Assembly of learned godly and judicious Divines who together with some members of both the Houses of Parliament are to consult and advise of such matters and things touching the premises as shall be proposed unto them by both or either of the Houses of Parliament and to give their advice and counsell therein to both or either of the said Houses when and as often as they shall be thereunto requited Be it therefore ordained by

the Assembly not by any particular man or men in a private way when either House shall require it All things agreed 〈◊〉 and prepared for the Parliament to be openly read and allowed in the Assembly if the major part assent Provided that the opinion of any persons dissenting and the reasons urged for it be annexed thereunto if the Dissenters require it Together with Solutions if any were given in the Assembly to these Reasons Jo Browne Cler. Parliamentorum Having thus sufficiently evidenced the authority and jurisdiction of Parliaments in matters of Religion and Church affaires by these numerous punctuall irrefragable Presidents in all Ages give me leave to add these two considerations to them to demonstrate this their undoubted right and priviledge beyond all contradiction and silence every adverse tongue Pen of all Papists Anabaptists Brownists Separatists or Independents whatsoever First that all our ancient and moderne Writs for summoning a Parliament have ever had this speciall clause in them Pro quibusdam ardnis ungentibus negotiis Nos statum defensionem Regni Angliae ECCLESIAE ANGLICANAE concernentibus qu●ddam Parliamentum c. teneri ordinavaimus From whence it is most apparent That the state and defence of the Church of England and well ordering of the same is one Principall end of summoning Parliaments and one maine part of the subject matters of our Parliaments as Sir Edward Cooke resolves 2ly That all every of the pre●ended opposites to Parliaments Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction hand formely and none especially in the present Parliament addressed severall Petitions to this High and Honorable Court for Reformation of the Church suppression of haeresies Errors Idolatry Popery Superstition Schismes Prela●y and establishing Gods true worship Religion Ordinances Discipline as to the most proper Iudicature Tribunall Lawgiver in our Church which they could resort unto and not to the Convocation or any other Assembly of Clergy-men alone or Independent Congregation To give you some few remarkable instances besides those formerly remembred instead of infinite others which I pretermit for brevity Our famous English Apostle Iohn Wickelesse as he professedly maintained in K. Richard the second his Raigne That any Clergy-man yea the Pope himselfe might lawfully be reprehended accused and corrected by Lay-men That the temporall Lords and Princes might lawfully and meritoriously take the possessions and Revenues from the Church and from Ecclesiasticall persons offending habitually c. to the end they might reforme them And that they were obliged to reforme the Church and Prelates under paine of being traitours to Iesus Christ So likewise in the fifth year of this King he Writ and sent to the Lords and great men assembled at London IN PARLIAMENT seven Propositions tending to the abolishing of the Popes usurped power and exactions to selfe the temporalities of Deli●●●ent Bishops to remove Bishops and Clergy-men from all secular imployments 〈◊〉 reforme the abuses of Excommunications and imprisonments upon them to 〈◊〉 Transubstantiation and reforme the Churches both to 〈…〉 the particulars whereof you may read at large in 〈◊〉 And 〈◊〉 long after his learned Disciple William 〈◊〉 a Marty● being unjustly condemned by the Bishop of Hereford for maintaining Wickliffes opinions appealed to the King and Parliament against it and withall writ a pious Letter to the Parliament recorded by Master Fox which concludes thus Deare worshipfull Sirs in this world Theseech you for Christs love as ye yet 〈◊〉 loven Gods Law and Truth that in these dayes is greatly borne abacke that they wollen vouchsafe these things that I send you written to Gods worship to let them be shewed IN THE PARLIAMENT as your wits can best conceive to most worship to our God and to shewing of the truth AND AMENDING OF HOLY CHVRCH My conc●usions and mine● appeale and other true matters of Gods Law if any can finde in them error falsenesse or default privet by the Law of Christ clearly to christian mens knowledge I shall revoke my wrong conceit by Gods law be amended more ready to hold with Gods law openly and privily with Gods grace and nothing to hold teach or maintain that is contrary to his Law By which he made that very Parliament Iudges of his Doctrine had reformers of the Church though for the most part Papists in those dayes On the contrary side the very Papists Prelates Clergy and Convocation in those times did likewise Petition the King and Parliament for suppression of haereticall opinions Preachers Bookes Schooles Conventi●les and the punishment and restraint of hereticks sectaries haereticall preachers and Schoolmasters as they deemed them and upon their prayer and importunity the Statutes of 5. R. 2 〈…〉 5. ●2 H. 4. c. 15. ● H. 5. c. 7. to which the Commons never consented were made and 〈◊〉 to that purpose as is evident by the very words of the Acts themselves Master Fox his Acts and Monuments vol. 1. Edi● 〈◊〉 p. 773. And it is as evident that the Popish Commons Petition was the cause of the Statute of 25 H. 8. c. 14. For the punishment of heresie and the Popish Clergyes importunity to King Henry the eight his motion to the Parliament the occasion of the bloudy Statue of 31 H. 8. c. 14. 34. H. c. 8. 1. as the words of the Acts and Master Fox demonstrate both King and Clergy Nobles and Commons even in these times of Popery deeming our parliaments the meetest Iudges and only lawgivers for ordering Church affaires and matters of Religion About the 37. yeare of King Henry the 〈◊〉 Roderick Morse once a Grey 〈◊〉 published a book in print 〈◊〉 A complaint to the Parliament house of England directed to the Parliament wherein he demonstrates many abuses and corruptions of the Church and Clergy of England in those dayes both in matter of Doctrine Worship Discipline manners which he earnestly presseth petitioneth the Parliament effectually to reforme by wholsome Lawes and Edicts as a thing most properly belonging to their place and Iurisdiction as the whole booke manifests which had been very absurd had the Parliament been no meer Iudge of Religion and Church affaires and no 〈◊〉 Reformers of these abuses by Lawes and punishments as some now repute them In King Edward the sixt Queene Maries and Queene Elizabeths severall Raignes the Clergie and 〈◊〉 made their Petitions and addresses to the Parliament for setling reforming establishing all matters of Religion Church-government and discipline as the forementioned Statutes with multitudes of Petitions and bookes printed and dedicated to the Parliaments in their severall Raigns demonstrate especially 1. and 2. Phili. and Mary c. 6. 8. 1 Eliz. c. 1. 2. 4. 8. Eliz. c. 1. Two admonitions to the Parliament Anno. 1572. Iohn Penry his supplication to the Parliament and others The Petitions to all the severall Parliaments in King Iames his Raigne and our present Soveraignes but more especially to this present Parliament from all sorts of people in every County of the Realme

them as men who invaded the very incommunicable royalties and priviledges of heaven and counted it no robbery to make themselves equall to God or to defame or draw an odium or contempt upon them and prepare the people before hand to oppose or reject whatsoever Church-Government they shall establish contrary to your Independent way for there can be no other reall end of these your Anti-parliamentary Sermons writings is such a transcendent crime and high affront against the Parliament as you are never able to expiate and is so farre from extenuating that it aggravates your former offences beyond expression Fourthly Your last clause And if continued c. intimates and speakes ●ound without any straining that the Parliament for the present are guilty of dashing their foote against Christ the Rocke of claiming the most sacred and incommunicable royalties and priviledges of heaven and making themselves equall to God And that if they persevere in the course they have begun in reforming our Church and setting up a Church Government according to the Word different from your new way it is such an high provocation against the most high as will kindle a fire in the brest of him whose name is Jehovah which will consume and devoure c. Could all the Malignant and Prelaticall party in England lay a greater wickeder or more unjust scandall in our Parliament then this or more defame them then by such a false report enough to fire the whole Kingdome against them as well as Gods wrath Certainly Master Goodwin I must tell you freely without malice or uncharitablenes and I beseech you pardon my zeale in this particular that your Iealousie and pen in this was set on fire of hell rather then heaven when you printed this passage and what ever censure you deserve I feare your Book demerits the fire to purge out this drosse yea all the late teares of Repentance you may shed will not be sufficient to quench those unhappy flames of contention your late Sermons and Pamphlets have kindled in our Church and State to omit your former Socinian Errors Thirdly Hee professeth that in case he hath said or written any thing detractory to the undoubted priviledges of Parliament yet my Inditement against him that he did it PRESVMTVOVSLY is such a charge which men whose ungrounded zeale hath not eaten out the heart of their Charity cannot lightly but recharge with unreasonablenesse and utter unlikely-hood Sir I dare affirme upon good grounds that you did this presumptuously as I charge it Grammarians Lawyers and Divines informs us that the Word Presumptuous comes from the verbe Praesumo which signifies to forestall to conceive before hand to usurpe or take that upon him which belongs not to him to doe a thing before a man bee lawfully called to it which belongs not properly to him or to doe a thing boldly confidently or rashly without good grounds or against Authority or Lawes or upon hopes of impunity He that doth ought in any of these sences may properly be said to do it PRESUMPTUOUSLY and that in Scripture phrase as well as in common parlance To apply this to your crime First you preached and printed these passages of purpose to forestall the Parliaments and Assemblies pious resolutions to settle one uniforme Church-Government and suppresse all private Coventicles of Sectaries or Anabaptists contrary to it 2. To establish support that Independent way which you had before hand without any lawful warrant conceived ere the Parliament had made choyce of or setled any Church-Government for you as the whole Tenor of your Bookes and Sermons evidence Thirdly It was no lesse then high presumption in you being a meere Divine and a man altogether ignorant of or unskilfull in the ancient Rights and Priviledges of our Parliament as your writings demonstrate and your selfe intimate p. 5. to undertake to determine and judge of them so peremptorily and in such manner as you have done When as if you had known any thing concerning the Rights of Parliaments you might have learned this among other things That Divines are no competent Iudges of Parliaments Priviledges That the Priviledges Rights and customes of our Parliaments are only to be judged and determined by the Parliament it selfe not in or by any other inferior Court much lesse in a Pulpit That the power and jurisdiction of the Parliament for making of Lawes is so transcendent and absolute as it cannot bee confined to causes or persons within any bounds and that the state and defence of the Church of England is the very first matter and care of the Parliament of England as all the premised Presidents manifest and Sir Edward Cooke with others might have informed you And for a man to undertake to judge of that which is above his power is expresly defined to bee presumption by Richardus de Media villa in 3. Sententiar Distinct 26. and other Schoolemen on that place and by Summa Angelica Tit. Praesumptus Fourthly You had no lawfull calling nor warrant from Gods Word or our Lawes to handle the Iurisdictions and rights of Parliament in your pulpit nor yet to dispute them in your writings in such a daring manner by way of opposition or to encourage people to disobedience to its Ecclesiasticall Lawes and descitions Therefore in this you were presumptuous by the Scriptures owne definition 2 Pet. 2. 10. Fourthly after you were questioned before a Committee of Parliament for these very passages in your first Sermon as exceeding scandalous Derogatory to the Members and priviledges of Parliament yet you in a daring manner whiles you were under examination audaciously preached over the same againe in substance in your Pulpit on a solemne Fast day and published them with additions in no lesse then two printed Bookes Yea since your very censure by the Committee for them you have in a higher straine then ever gone on to justifie them in print once more in your Innocencies Triumph like an incorrigible delinquent wherein you slander the Parliament more then before and shew your selfe a man dispising Government at least any Church-Government the Parliament shall establish not suitable to your fancy selfe-willed and even speaking evill of Dignities in your forementioned clauses others Therefore in this regard you are superlatively presumptuous by St. Peters resolution Yea most men whose ungrounded zeale to your new way hath not eaten out his braines and reason too must readily acknowledge it notwithstanding your two reasons to the contrary To wit First your former uninterrupted zeale to this Parliament and its cause you meane perchance before you were an Independent and since whiles you thought it would embrace your new way which doth but aggravate your subsequent opposition in presse and Pulpit against its undoubted jurisdiction Secondly The grounds and reasons you have given of your opinion which I shall examine in due place as if men might not do presumptuously against the lawfull power of Parliaments and

in this point let him consult William Ranchin his Review of the Councell of Trent who is copious and zealous in this point though a Papist Bishop Jewels Defence of the Apologie part 6. cap. 12. 13 14. 15. and the ensuing Sections But to returne to the point proposed As in the forecited Councels abroad so in our Councels Synods and Convocations at home as our Kings and their Nobles were usually present and president as I shall shew hereafter so the Prelates could debate propound and conclude nothing without their privity and licence Hence Eadmerus records of King William the Conquerour that all divine and humane things did expect his approbation for he would not suffer any man living within any of his Dominions to receive the Bishop of Rome as Apostolicall unlesse he commanded him nor yet to accept his Letters upon any termes if they had not been first shewed to him Yea he did not suffer the Primate of his Kingdome to wit the Arch-bishop of Canterbury or Dover if he sate President in a generall Councell of Bishops gathered together to decree or prohibit any thing but those things which were sutable to his will and had been first ordained by himselfe William Rufus his sonne tooke the same jurisdiction on him and challenged it as part of his Prerogative Royall For when as Anselme Arch-bishop of Canterbury moved him to command if he pleased Councels to be renued according to the ancient use because there had not been a generall Councell of Bishops in England since his comming to the Crowne not in many yeares before he gave him this reply When I shall thinke fit I will do something concerning these things not at thine but my owne pleasure But of this I shall thinke some other time and adds by way of scoffe but thou whence speakest thou in a Councell After this the King demanded of him from what Pope he would receive his Pall he answered from Urbane which the King hearing replyed That he had not yet taken him for Apostolicall neither had it been the Custome in his or his Fathers time that any one should name a Pope in the Kingdome of England without or besides his license or election and whosoever would wrest from him the power of this dignity should do all one as if he had endeavoured to take his Crown from him If therefore thou recivest the same Vrban or aeny other for Pope in my Kingdome or holdest him being received thou doest against the faith and allegiance which thou owest to me neither dost thou offend mee lesse in this than if thou shouldest endeavour to take my Crown from me Wherefore know that thou shalt have no share or portion in my Kingdome if I shall not see thee by open assertions to deny all subjection and obedience to Vrban at my desire Which he refusing to doe the Bishops and Noblemen sent to him from the King told him Tha● the whole Kingdome complained against him that he endeavoured to take away from their common Lord the dignity of his Empire and his Crowne For whosoever deprives him of the customes of his Royall dignity takes away his Crown and Kingdome together with it for one cannot be decently enjoyed without the other So little power had the Pope or Prelates here in England in those times Anno 1234. there was a Councell held at Glocester to which the King sent this Mandate Mandatum est omnibus Episcopis qui conventuri sunt apud Gloucestriam die Sabbati in chrastino Sanctae Catharinae firmiter inhibendo quod sicut Baronias sua quas do lege tenent diligunt nullo modo praesumant Concilium tenere de aliquibus quae ad coronam Regis pertinent vel quae personam Regis vel statum suum vel statum Concilii sui contingunt scituri pro certò quod si fecerint Rex inde se capiet ad Baronias suas Teste Rege apud Hereford 23. Novembris c. Anno 1237. in the Councel held at London under Otho the Popes Legate the King sent the Earle of Lincolne with others to the Legate sitting in Councell with an Inhibition in the Kings name to determine of nothing against the Crowne and Dignity Ut dicto Legato writes Matthew Paris ex parte Regis Regni inhiberent ne ibi contra Regiam coronam dignitatem aliquid statuere attemptaret and William de Reel one of the Messengers remained in the Convocation house to see this Inhibition observed clothed in a Canonicall Cap and Surplis the others departing thence So in 26. Hen. 3. rot 21. 9. E. 1. rot 2. 11. E. 2. rot 10 18. E. 3. rot 21. in the Tower and in many other Records I finde a generall Prohibition usually directed to the Convocation the Prelates and Clergie therein such loyall subjects usually were they Ne quid attemptarent contra jus Regium Ne quid statuant contra Regem in Concilio suo Ne aliquid tentetur contra Coronam Regis in congregan●ione Cleri c. the King confining them of what to treat and conclude of what not to entermeddle without his speciall license Not to mention That our Kings have frequently prescribed the Convocation what Subsidies they should grant and how they have handled them in case they refused to grant them The Statute of 25. H. 8. c. 19. Records ` That the Clergie of the Realm of England submitting themselves to the Kings Majesty then promised in verbo Sacerdotii that they would never from thenceforth presume to attempt alleadge claime or put in ure or enact promulge or execute any new Canons Constitutions Ordinance provinciall or other by whatsoever other name they shall be called in the Convocation unlesse the Kings most Royall assent and Licence may to them he had to make promulge and execute the same and that His Majesty doe give His most Royall assent and authority in that behalfe And thereupon enacts according to the sayd submission and petition of the Clergie that they assembled together in Convocation ne any of them to wit in their severall Visitations Synods Constitutions Chapters from henceforth Shall presume to alleadge claime or put in ure any Constitutions or Ordinances provinciall or Synodals or any other Canons nor shall Enact Promulge or execute any such Canons Constitutions or Ordinance provinciall by what name or names they may be called in Convocation for time to come unlesse the sayd Clergy may have the Kings most Royall assent and licence to make promulge and execute such Canons Constitutions and Ordinances provinciall or Synodall upon pain of every one of the said Clergy doing the contrary to this being thereof Convict to suffer imprisonment and make fine at the Kings will Hence the whole Clergy of England in their Booke entituled The Institution of a Christian man dedicated to K. Henry the eight Anno 1543. subscribed with all their names in a Convocation Chapter of Orders acknowledge this sovereign jurisdiction of the Prince

over them both in and out of Synods After this in the very height of Popery and the revivall of it in England in the first year of Queen Mary a Parliament and Convocation being summoned to re-establish Popery the Queen her selfe appointed and commanded a publike Disputation to be held at Pauls Church in London in the Convocation house about the matter of the Sacrament which was accordingly held and continued six whole dayes many Earles Lords knights Gentlemen and divers of the Parliament Court and City being present at it to the end that they might constitute Laws of the matters of Religion debated which the Queen and Parliament might ratifie The Disputation being ended The Queen sent a Writ to Bonner Bishop of London to dissolve the Convocation which was done accordingly So that this Convocation did nothing in matter of doctrine or discipline even in these times of Popery but what the Queen did first direct and limit them Queen Mary deceasing and Queen Elizabeth a Protestant Princesse succeeding her called a Parliament and Convocation to suppresse Popery and re-establish the Protestant true Religion To effect which with more facility this pious Queen having heard of the diversity of opinions in maters of Religion among sundry of her loving Subjects and being very desirous to have the same reduced to some godly and christian concord by the advice of the Lords and others of the Privy Councell as well for the satisfaction of persons doubtfull as also for the knowledge of the very truth in certain matters of difference commanded a convenient chosen number of the best learned of either part to conferre together their opinions and reasons concerning three particular points that should be prescribed to them thereby to come to some good and charitable agreement with all convenient speed Hereupon nine of the learnedst Papists were chosen on the one side and nine of the ablest Protestants on the other to debate these three Propositions prescribed to them in writing 1. It is against the word of God and the custome of the ancient Church to use a tongue unknown to the people in common Prayer and the administration of the Sacraments 2. Every Church hath authority to appoint take away and change Ceremonies and Ecclesiasticall Rites so the same be to edification 3. It cannot be proved by the word of God that there is in the Masse offered up a sacrifice propitiatory for the quick and the dead It was further resolved by the Queens Majesty that the conference on both parties should be in writing for avoiding much altercation of words that both sides should declare their minds opinions and reasons in writing and at the same day deliver them mutually one to the other to be considered and to return their answers thereto in writing by a certaine day Immediately herupon divers Nobles and States of the Realme understanding that such a meeting and conference should be in certain matters whereupon In the Court of Parliament consequently following some Lawes might be grounded they made earnest request to her Majesty that the parties of this conference might be ordered to put and read their Assertions in the English tongue and that in the presence of them of the Nobility and of The Parliament House for the better satisfaction and ordering of their owne judgements to treat and conclude of such Lawes as might depend hereupon This also being thought very reasonable was signified to both parties and so fully agreed upon and the day appointed for the first meeting to bee the Friday in the afternoone being the last of March at Westminster Church At which day and place both for good order and for honor of the Conference By the Queens Maiesties Commandement the Lords and others of the privie Councell were present and a great part of the Nobility also The Lord Keeper and the rest of the Lords bearing chiefe sway in ordering this conference as you may read at large in Master Fox in the second dayes discourse In this Conference I shall onely observe two passages of the Protestant party The first is the begining of their Prologue to their written Conference in these words For as much as it is thought good to the Queens most Excellent Majesty unto whom in the Lord all obedience is due that we should declare our Iudgement in writing upon certain Propositians We as becometh us to do herein most gladly obey The next is their third observation from the law of Justinian the Emperor commanding all Bishops and Priests to celebrate the holy oblation and prayers in Baptisme with an audible voyce c. And let them know this that if they neglect any of these things the dreadfull judgement of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ shall fall upon you neither will wee when wee know it rest and leave it unrevenged viz. That this Emperour being a christian did not only make Constitutions of Ecclesiasticall matters but also threatneth revenge and sharp punishment to the violaters of the same Therefore they held he had an obliging power over his Subjects and a coersiveauthority vested in him to enforce obedience to his Lawes of which more hereafter As this was the practise of this blessed pious Queen in the begining of her Raigne to prescribe to her Clergy in Convocation what they should treat off and how So it continued in use and was punctually submitted to by all Convocations during her Raigne and that not onely as a matter of complement but of conscience religion and the established doctrine of the Church of England as you may read at large in Bishop Jewels Apology of the Church of England and in the Defence of his Apologie against Harding part 6. c. 9. to 16. p. 689. to 766. a learned full discourse to this purpose and in Bishop Bilsons true Difference between Christian Subjection unchristian Rebellion the second part to omit all others who have handled this subject in her Raigne It seemes therefore strange to me that this which was reputed the true doctrine of the emmine●test learnedest writers Reformers of this Church and of the Church of England it selfe from the begining to the end of her happy Raign and ever since should bee deemed meere Antichristian Diabolicall theomacall and meer Popish doctrine now when as the contrary opinion is really such Our late Soveraigne King James in his Letters Patents before the Ecclesiasticall Canons and Constitutions made in Convocation A● 1603. recites that he called that Convocation by his Writ and that ●e did By severall Letters Patents under his Great Seale of England the one dated the 11. of April the other the 25. of Iune in the first year of his Raigne Give and grant full free and lawfull liberty power and Authority unto the sayd Clergy in their Convocation who without such a Patent and License could debate and conclude nothing else it had been vaine and superfluours To conferre Treat Debate Consider Consult and agree of and upon

of Canterbury in their and every of their distinct Courts and in the order and manner of their and every of their proceedings and by all other persons within this Realme as far as lawfully being members of the Church it may concerne them And further to conferre debate treat consider consult and agree of and upon such other points matters causes and things as we from time to time shall deliver or cause to be delivered unto the sayd Lord Archbishop of Canterbury President of the sayd Convocation in writing under Our Signe Manuell or privie Signet to be debated concluded consulted and concluded upon the sayd Statute or any other Statute Act of Parliament Proclamation Provision or restraint heretofore had made provided or set forth or any other cause matter or thing whatsoever to the contrary notwithstanding And we do also by these Presents give and grant unto the sayd Lord Archbishop of Canterbury President of the sayd Convocation and to the rest of the Bishops of the said Province of Canterbury and to all Deanes of Cathedrall Churches Archdeacons Chapter and Colledges and the whole Clergy of every severall Diocesse within the said Province full free and lawfull liberty licence power and authority That they the sayd Lord Archbishop of Canterbury President of the sayd Convocation and the rest of the sayd Bishops and other the Clergie of the same Province or the greater number of them whereof the sayd President of the sayd Convocation to be one all and every the sayd Canons Orders Ordinances Constitutions matters Causes and things so by them from time to time conferred treated debated considered concluded and agreed upon shall and may set down in writing in such forme as heretofore hath been accustomed and the same so set down in writing to exhibite and deliver or cause to be exhibited and delivered unto Us to the end that we upon mature consideration by us to be taken thereupon may allow approve confirme and ratifie or otherwise disallow annihilate and make voyd such and so many of the sayd Canons Orders Ordinances Constitutions matters causes and things so to be by force of these Presents considered consulted and agreed upon as wee shall thinke fit requisite and convenient Provided alwayes that the sayd Canons Orders Ordinances Constitutions matters and things or any of them so to be considered consulted or agreed upon as aforesaid be not contrary or repugnant to the Liturgy established or the Rubrick in it or the nine and thirty Articles or the Doctrine Orders and Ceremonies of the Church of England already established Provided also and our expresse will and commandement is That the sayd Canons Orders Ordinances Constitutions matters and things or any of them so to be by force of these presents considered consulted or agreed upon shall not be of any force effect or validity in the Law but only such and so many of them and after such time as we by our Letters Patents under our great Seale of England shall allow approve and confirme the same any thing before in these presents contained to the contrary thereof in any wise notwithstanding c. In witnesse whereof We have caused these our Letters to be made Patents Witnesse Our selfe at Westminster the twelfth day of May in the sixteenth yeare of our Reigne Per Regem Ipsum Willys To which I shall adde the Kings further Warrant for making a particular Canon and Oath in the late Convocation Charles R. MOst reverend Father in God right trusty and right entirely beloved Councellour Right reverend Fathers in God right trust and well-beloved and trusty and well-beloved We great you well Whereas We out of our meere grace and favour and for the good and peace of the Church have granted to you our Arch-Bishop of Canterbury free leave and licence under our great Seale of England bearing date the twelfth of this instant May to propose treat and conclude upon all such necessary Articles and Canons which you shall finde fit to be ordered for the peace and government of this Church Provided that you shall thereby have no power to meddle with nor alter any thing ratified and confirmed by Act of Parliament And whereas we have further in that Licence which we have granted unto you reserved power to our selfe to command you to propose treat and determine of any such thing or things as we shall recommend unto you under our Signe Manuall or Signet These are therefore to will and require you to propose treat and conclude upon such a Canon as may secure us and all our loving subjects against all growth and encrease of Popery in this our Kingdom as also of any hereticall or schismaticall opinions to the prejudice of the doctrine or discipline of this Church of England established by Law And that in this case you agree upon some Oath to be taken by your selves and all the Clergie respectively and by all which shall hereafter take upon them holy Orders that they shall adhere constantly to the doctrine and discipline here established and never give way for so much as can any way concerne them to any innovation or alteration thereof And when you have made this Canon and inserted this Oath we require you to present it to us that we may advise upon it and if upon mature consultation we approve it we shall confirme it and then give you power under our great Seale both to take the said Oath your selves and to administer it to all such as the Canon appoints Given under our Signet at our Court at White-hall the seventeenth day of May in the sixteenth yeere of our Reigne To the most Reverend Father in God our right trusty and right entirely beloved Councellour the Lord Arch-bishop of Canterbury Primate and Metropolitane of all England To the right Reverend Fathers in God our right trusty and well-beloved the Lords Bishops and to our trusty and well-beloved the rest of the Clergie now assembled in Convocation 3 ly by the Kings letters Patents for Confirmation of those Canons after they were made presented to be confirmed by him In the first canon whereof they thus truly resolve That a supream Power is given to this most excellent Order of Kings by God himself in the Scriptures which is That Kings should rule and command in their severall dominions all persons of what rank or estate soever whether Ecclesiasticall or Civill and that they should restrain and punish with the temporall sword all stubborn and wicked doers The care of Gods Church is so committed to Kings in the Scripture that they are commended when the Church keeps the right way and taxed when it runs amisse and therefore her government belongs in chief unto Kings For otherwise one man would be commended for anothers care and taxed but for anothers negligence which is not Gods way The power to call and dissolve Councels both nationall and provincial is the true right of all Christian Kings within their own Realms or Territories

And when in the first times of Christs Church Prelates used this power 't was therefore onely because in those dayes they had no Christian Kings And it was then so onely used as in times of persecution that is with supposition is case it were required of submitting their very lives unto the very laws and commands even of those pagan Princes that they might not so muchas seem to disturb their civil Government which Christ came to confirm but by no meanes to undermine CHARLES by the Grace of GOD c. Now for asmuch as the said Lord Arch-bishop of Canterbury President of the said Convocation for the province of Canterbury and the said Arch-bishop of Yorke President of the said Convocation for the Province of Yorke and others the said Bishops Deans Arch-deacons Chapters and Colleges with the rest of the Clergie having met together respectively at the time and places before mentioned respectively and then and there by vertue of Our said authority granted unto them treated of concluded and agreed upon certaine Canons Orders Ordinances and Constitutions to the end and purpose by Vs limited and prescribed unto them have thereupon offered and presented the same unto Vs most humbly desiring Vs to give our Royall assent unto the same according to form of a certain Statute or Act of Parliament made in that behalfe in the 25th yeer of the Reign of King Henry the eighth and by Our said Prerogative Royall and Supream authority in Causes Ecclesiasticall to ratifie by Our Letters Patents under Our great Seal of England and to confirm the same The Title and Tenour of them being word for word as ensueth Wee of Our Princely inclination and Royall care for the maintenance of the present Estate and government of the Church of England by the Lawes of this Our Realme now setled and established having diligently with great contentment and comfort read and considered of all these their said Canons Orders Ordinances and Constitutions agreed upon as is before expressed And finding the same such as Wee are perswaded will be very profitable not only to Our Clergy but to the whole Church of this Our Kingdome and to all the true Members of it if they be well observed Have therefore for Vs. Our Heires and lawfull Successours of Our especiall grace certaine knowledge and meere motion given and by th●se presents doe give Our Royall Assent according to the forme of the said Statute or Act of Parliament aforesaid to all and every of the said Canons Orders Ordinances and constitutions and to all and every thing in them contained as they are before written And furthermore We do not onely by our said Prerogative Royall and supreme Authority in Causes Ecclesiasticall ratifie confirme and establish by these Our Letters Patents the said Canons Ordinances and Constitutions and all and every thing in them contained as is aforesaid but do likewise propound publish and straightly injoyne and command by Our said Authority and by these Our Letters Patents the same to be diligently observed executed and equally kept by all Our loving Subjects of this Our Kingdome both within the Provinces of Canterbury and Yorke in all points wherein they do or may concerne every or any of them according to this Our will and pleasure hereby signified and expressed And that likewise for the better observation of them every Minister by what name or title soever he be called shall in the Parish Church or Chappell where he hath charge read all the said Canons Orders Ordinances and Constitutions at all such times and in such manner as is prescribed in the said Canons or any of them The Booke of the said Canons to be provided at the charge of the Parish betwixt this and the Feast of S. Michael the Arch-angell next ensuing straightly charging and commanding all Archbishops Bishops and all other that exercise any Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction within this Realme every man in his place to see and procure so much as in them lyeth all and every of the same Canons Orders Ordinances and Constitutions to be in all points duly observed not sparing to execute the penalties in them severally mentioned upon any that shall wittingly or wilfully break or neglect to observe the same as they tender the honour of God the peace of the Church the tranquillity of the Kingdome and their duties and service to Vs their King and Soveraigne In witnesse whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patents Witnesse Our Selfe at Westminster the thirtieth day of Iune in the sixteenth yeare of Our Reigne By all these Patents with others of like nature directed to all our Convocations by our Kings in former and latter times by Our present Parliaments manner of calling limiting directing our present Assembly of Divines in all particulars of their proceedings and debates appointing some eminent Members of both Houses to sit and consult together with them and to certifie all their results and determinations to them to be considered rectified rejected or approved by both Houses as they in their wisdomes shall see cause and by the fore-cited premises it is most apparent that the Arch-bishops Bishops Clergy and Convocation of England assembled Synodically together much lesse then any particular Independent Minister or Congregation notwithstanding all their late printed vaunts of their Ecclesiasticall soveraigne Iurisdiction by divine right and power to prescribe and enjoyne Visitation-Oaths Articles new Rites and Ceremonies of their owne Inventions both unto Ministers and people which they seconded with their practice to the insufferable grievance and oppression of the people are so farre from having any lawfull right power and authority to make prescribe any Ecclesiasticall Injunctions Canons Lawes Rites Ceremonies or forme of Government to any of his Majesties Subjects that though they be lawfully assembled together in a Provinciall or Nationall Synod by the Kings owne Writ or Parliaments command yet they cannot legally or of right so much as treat debate consult of any Ecclesiasticall affaires without a speciall licence first obtained from the King or Parliament and then only of such generals or particulars as they shall prescribe them much lesse compile enact promulge impose or execute any Ecclesiasticall Canons Lawes Injunctions Ordinances Oaths without their speciall approbation and ratification of them by their speciall Letters Patents under the great Seale and by Act of Parliament too as hath been lately resolved by unanimous consent of both Houses in the case of the condemned new booke of Canons The like I have proved of the Bishops Clergie Councels in other Christian Empires and Kingdomes Where then is that immense Episcopall jurisdiction authority preheminence superiority power in point of dominion over and beyond that of ordinary Ministers which our Lordly Prelats lately so much boasted of and pleaded for as due unto them by no lesse then divine institution if we may beleeve them not by the Grace Patents Grants or connivence of Christian Princes Let these swelling ambitious Grandees

the Lords and Commons in this present Parliament assembled That all and every the person● hereafter in this present Ordinance named that is to say Algernon Earl of Northumberland William Earle of Bedford Phillip Earle of Pembroke and Montgemery William Earle of Salisbury Henry Earle of Holland Edward Earle of Manchester William Lord Viscount Say and Seale Edward Lord Viscount Conway Phillip Lord Wharton Edward Lord Howard of Estr John Selden Esquite Francis Rows Esquire Edmund Prideaux Esqui●e Sir Henry Vane Knight Senior Iohn Glyn Esquire Recorder of London Iohn White Esquire Bouldstrode Whi●locke Esquire Humphrey Salloway Esquire Master Serjeant Wilde Oliver Saint Iohn Esquire his Majesties Sollicitor Sir Benjamin Rudyard Knight John Pym Esquier Sir Iohn Clotworthy Knight Iohn Maynard Esquire Sir Henry Vane Knight junior William Pierpoint Esquiet William Wheeler Esquier Sir Thomas Barrington Knight Walter-Young Esquier Sir Iohn Euelin Knight Herbert Palmer of Ashwell Batchellor in Divinity Oliver Boles of Sutton Batchellor in Divinity Henry Wilkinson of Waddesdon Batchellor in Divinity Thomas Valentine of Chalsont Giles Batchellor in Divinity D. William Twisse of Newbury with sundry other Divines mentioned in this Ordinance and such other person and persons as shall be nominated and appointed by both Houses of Parliament or so many of them as shall not be lefted by sicknesse or other necessary impediment shall meet and assemble and are hereby required and enjoyned upon summons signed by the Clerkes of both Houses of Parliament left at their severall respective dwellings to meete and assemble themselves at Westminster in the Chapell called King Henry the sevenths Chappell on the first day of July in the yeare of our Lord one thousand six hundred fort●y three and after the first meeting being at least of the number of forty shal from time to time sit be removed from place to place and also that the said Assembly shall be dissolved in such manner as by both Houses of Parliament shall be directed And the said persons or so many of them as shall be so Assembled or sit shall have power and Authority and are hereby likewise enjoyned from time to time during this present Parliament or untill further Order be taken by both the said Houses to con●erre and treat amongst themselves of such matters and things touching and concerning the Liturgy discipline and Government of the Church of England or the vindicating and clearing of the doctrine of the same from all false aspertions and misconstructions AS SHALL BE PROPOSED VNTO THEM BY BOTH OR EITHER OF THE SAID HOVSES OF PARLIAMENT AND NO OTHER and to deliver their opinions and advices of or touching the matters aforesaid as shall be most agreeable to the Word of God TO BOTH OR EITHER OF THE SAID HOVSES FROM TIME TO TIME IN SVCH MANNER AND SORT AS BY BOTH OR EITHER OF THE SAID HOVSES OF PARLIAMENT SHALL BE REQVIRED and the same not to divulge by printing writing or otherwise without the consent of both or either House of Parliament And be it further ordained by the authority aforesaid that William Twisse Doctor in Divinity shall sit in the Chaire as Prolocutor of the said Assembly and if he happen to die or be letted by sickenesse or other necessary impediment then such other person to be appointed in his place as shall be agreed on by both the said Houses of Parliament And in case any difference of Opinion shall happen amongst the said persons so assembled touching any the matters that shall be proposed to them as aforesaid that then they shall represent the same together with the reasons thereof to both or either the said Houses respectively to the end such further direction may be given therein as shall be requisite in that behalfe And be it further Ordained by the authority aforesaid That for the Charges and expences of the said Divines and every of them in attending the said service there shall be allowed unto every of them that shall so attend during the time of their said attendance and for ten dayes before and ten dayes after the summe of foure shillings for every day at the charges of the Common-wealth at such time and in such manner as by both Houses of Parliament shall be appointed And be it further Ordained that all and every the sayd Divines so as aforesaid required and enjoyned to meet and assemble shall be freed and acquitted of and from every offence forfeiture penalty losse or damage which shall or may arise or grow by reason of any Non-residence or absence of them or any of them from his or their or any of their Church Churches or Cures for or in respect of their sayd attendance upon the sayd Service any Law or Stature enjoyning their attendance upon their respective Ministeries or Charges to the contrary thereof notwithstanding and if any of the persons before named shall happen to die before the sayd Assembly shall be dissolved by Order of both Houses of Parliament then such other person or persons shall be nominated and placed in the roome and stead of such person and persons so dying as by both the sayd Houses shall be thought fit and agreed upon And every such person or persons so to bee named shall have the like Power and Authority Freedome and acquittall to all intents and purposes and also all such wages and allowances for the said service during the time of his or their attendance as to any other of the sayd persons in this Ordinance is by this Ordinance limited and appointed Provided alwayes that this Ordinance or any thing therein contained shall not give unto the persons aforesaid or any of them nor shall they in this Assembly assume to exercise any Iurisdiction Power or Authority Ecclesiasticall whatsoever or any other Power then is herein particularly expressed Some generall Rules for the Assembly directed by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled 1. THat two Assessors be joyned to the Prolocutor to supply his place in case of absence or infirmity 2. Two Scribes to be appointed to set down all proceedings and these to be Divenes who are not Members of the Assembly viz. Master Henry Rowberry and Master Adoniran Byfeild 3. Every Member at his first entrance into the Assembly shall make a serious and solemne Protestation not to maintain any thing but what he believes to be the truth and to embrace Truth in sincerity when discovered to him 4. No resolution to be given upon any question on the same day wherein it is first p●rpounded 5. What any man undertakes to prove as necessary he shall make good out of the Scriptures 6. No man to proceed in any dispute after the Prolocuter hath enjoyned him silence unlesse the Assembly desire he may go on 7. No man to bee denied to enter his dissent from the Assembl● and his 〈◊〉 for it in any point after it hath beene first Debated in the Assembly And thence if the dissenting party desire it to be sent to the Houses of Parliament by

Churches in the Bible yet none of them nor my dear Brother have hitherto been able to shew it though they have oft-times promised it Therefore we presume there is no such Shew us but some cleare Texts to manifest it and we will believe you without more dispute till then though you were Angels from Heaven we dare not credit you without a word to build on 3ly Because some Independents themselves one Anonymous who hath published a malicious Answer to me full of virulency against Presbytery the Scots positively deny any such universall platforme concurring fully with me in opinion Fourthly Because the Churches of God ever since the Apostles dayes have in severall Nations Republikes States and Conditions had different formes of Government Discipline Ceremonies administrations in some particulars as the Independent Congregations of Brownists Anabaptists Familists c. differ in sundry things of moment among themselves and yet have ever beene reputed true Churches of Christ The Churches of England Scotland France Geneva Germany Aethiopia Russia Greece Bohemia and the Netherlands vary one from another in their Government Discipline Rites Ceremonies in some points of Doctrine and are not Independent yet none of our Brethren I suppose will be so uncharitable as to deem them all Antichristian opposers of the Kingdome and Government of Christ and no true Churches as they must of necessity be if Church-government be a part of the Gospel one uniform unalterable Government universally prescribed to them all Fiftly Because the Gospel never intended to subvert diminish crosse or destroy the lawfull civill politicall Governments Lawes Customes of Kingdomes Nations Republikes which are Gods own Ordinance as well as Churchgovernment since one Ordinance of God doth not crosse or thwart another Now the lawfull Governments Customes Manners of most Nations Kingdoms Republiks being various different one from another the Gospel to be equally preached to them all some Church-government erected among them all and the condition of the Church whiles militant in this world being as full of changes as the Moone sometimes tossed with the boysterous waves almost drowned in the flouds of affliction Sometimes totally ecelipsed and driven into the wildernesse in one place yet slourishing or lesse troubled in another Othertimes in a prosperous peaceable condition Sometimes under Pagan or impious Princes and Magistrates other whiles under more or lesse pious Christian Kings and Governours sometimes in a more pure light some otherwhiles in a more corrupt ignorant condition Sometimes over-growne with haeresies schismes Innovations other-times holding forth the truth more clearly and purging out of all errors sometimes requiring a more sharpe and rigorous Discipline other-times a more milde and gentle Yea some Nations being more barbarous fierce obstinat vitious proner to some kinde of vices sins corruptions then others and so needing a Discipline Government somewhat discrepant from those who are more civell and ingenious Some using one gesture of prayer adoration administring the Sacrament some another as some bowing others kneeling others prostration some knocking of the breasts some bare-headed others covered some vayled others unvayled some sitting at the Lords Supper in one manner others in another Some kneeling others standing some using dipping others sprinkling others washing in baptisme some one kinde of tongue tone tune gesture in singing Preaching Praying others another which is all I meant in my first and second Queries by the manners and customes of the people which my deare Brother mis-interprets as meant of their superstitious and corrupt customes not their civill which I onely intended Some one forme of Temples Churches Tables Pulpits Chalices Vestments others another and all Nations not having the selfe-same opinion judgement of the lawfulnes or conveniency of one sort of Church-government as of another I conceive there was a kinde of necessity under the Gospel of leaving divets things in Church-government and Discipline more indeffinite and arbittary then under the Leviticall Law given onely to the Iewish Nation and that not for perperuity but till the Gospel came which see them free from that yoake of bondage and left them and all other beleevers at greater liberty than before This I conceive to be the true reason why there is no such precise universall set forme of Church-government and Discipline punctually prese●bed without the least variation to all Nations Churches in the New Testament as you say was to the Israelites in the old 6ly The Government and Discipline of the Churches of Christ hath bin alwayes more or lesse variable in every age and never continued uniforme constant unalterable in any age as the fundamentall Doctrines of the Church have done We are able to produce Professors of the Doctrines maintained in the Protestant Churches in all ages the Doctrine of the Gospel being universally the same and unalterable But no creature is able to demonstrate a succession of any one kind of Church-government discipline in all ages or Churches be it Presbyteriall Episcopall or mixt of both much lesse any series of Independent Churches Therefore certainly there is no such universall divine set forme of Church-government and Discipline essentiall to the being of a true Church prescribed in the Scriptures as some have fancied for then it would have had a being in some part or other of the world in all ages as well as the Doctrine of the Gospel and the Sacraments 7ly All Independents reach that there is no set forme of publick Prayer Liturgy preaching administring the sacrament in every particular nor yet of the matter or fashion of Churches Tables Chancels Vestments Gestures of Worship prescribed to all Churches Nations in all ages without variation yea they reject all set formes of publike Prayers administration of the Sacraments and Liturgies in Churches as Antichristian unlawfull or unexpedient at the least though they can hardly prove them such If then there be no set forme of publique Prayers Liturgy Preaching administring the Sacraments c. prescribed to all Churches in al ages without any variation and every Minister be 〈◊〉 at large to use his owne Method and manner of Praying Preaching administring the Sacraments Chatechising as Independents affirme provided it be generally consonant to the word Let them render me a solid reason if they can why there should be only one universall unalterable divineforme of Church-Government and Discipline precisely imposed on all Churches Nations ages alike without the least variation else they must of necessity grant as great a liberty and indefinitenes in the one as other and that there may be as many different formes of Church-Government and Discipline as of preaching praying Singing of Psalmes administring the Sacraments c. provided they be all decent agreeable to the generall rules of Scripture though not particularly prescribed therin 8ly All grant there is no immutable universall set forme of Civill Government prescribed to all Nations Republickes Cities Families Christian or Ethenicall 〈◊〉 they have a