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A75564 A speech by the Marquesse of Argile to the Honourable Lords and Commons in Parliament. 25. June 1646. With a paper concerning their full consent to the propositions to be presently sent to His Majesty for a safe and well grounded peace. Die Veneris 26. Junii 1646. Ordered by the Lords in Parliament assembled, that the Marquesse of Argiles speech, with the paper concerning the propositions, be forthwith printed and published. Jo. Brown Cler. Parliamentorum. Argyll, Archibald Campbell, Marquis of, 1598-1661.; England and Wales. Parliament. House of Lords.; Scotland. Parliament. 1646 (1646) Wing A3666; Thomason E341_23; ESTC R200912 5,533 13

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time they have only an Irish peck of Oatmeal● or a shilling in the ten dayes both for Meat and Drinke Therefore according to the many desires given in to the Honourable Houses for that end I humbly entreat that your Lordships will take care to provide for them so long as it is thought fit they remaine in that Kingdome For a renewed testimony of our earnest desires to comply with the Honourable Houses for setling the Peace of these Kingdoms so much longed for we doe returne unto your Lorships the Propositions of Peace which we received on Tuesday last with our consent thereunto wishing they may be hasted to his Majestie who hath so often called for them And I likewise offer to your Lordships the Copy of his Majesties Letter to my Lord of Ormond discharging him from any further medling in any Treaty with the Rebels in Ireland I hope in order to his Majesties further condescending to the setling of that Proposition concerning Ireland and the rest of the Propositions now to be sent unto him Another Paper there is which concernes the supplying of the Scottish Armies in England and Ireland and the perfecting of the Accompts betweene the Kingdoms together with a Letter from Generall Monro to the Committee of Estates of the Kingdome of Scotland concerning the state of affaires in Ireland All which when your Lordships have considered I trust you will take such course therein as ma● satisfie our just desires may put an end to our present troubles and settle these Kingdomes in a happy Peace A Paper delivered in from the Commissioners of Scotland concerning the Propositions IT is a twelve moneth since we did earnestly presse the sending of Propositions to the King for a safe and well-grounded peace In answer whereunto the Honourable Houses were pleased to acquaint us That they had resolved Propositions should be sent to his Majesty but did intend to make some alterations in the former Propositions and after eight or nine months deliberation we received from the Honourable Houses some of those Propositions and though we did finde therein very materiall additions alterations and omissions which for their great importance and the interest of the Kingdome of Scotland therein might very well have required the delay of an Answer untill the Estates of that Kingdome had been consulted yet so unwilling were we to retard the meanes of peace that in a fortnights time we returned an Answer upon the whole Propositions and the Houses of Parliament not resting satisfied therewith in lesse then ten daies we prepared a further Answer wherein we did very much comply with the desires of the Honourable Houses especially in the matter of setling the Militia of England and Ireland and in other things did shew our readinesse to heare or propose such expedients as might determine any differences so that in a whole yeares time the Propositions have not remained in our hands the space of foure weekes which we onely mention to cleare our proceedings from mistakes and aspersions and the Houses having now after two moneths farther deliberation delivered unto us upon the 23. of this instant June all the Propositions they intend to send to the King at this time We doe without any delay returne such an Answer and resolution thereupon as will be unto the present and future Generations one undeniable testimony besides many others of the integrity and faithfulnesse of the Kingdome of Scotland in their solemne League and Covenant of their love to Peace and earnest desire to satisfie their Brethren of England in those things which concerne the good and Government of this Kingdome being further resolved touching the Kingdome of Scotland That as nothing of single or sole concernment to that Nation did engage them in this Warre so nothing of that nature shall continue the same Although these Propositions now to be sent doe much differ from the Propositions formerly agreed upon by the Parliaments of both Kingdomes and the most materiall additions omissions and alterations are in such particulars as concerne the joynt interest and mutuall confidence and conjunction of both Kingdoms which were as we conceive much better provided for and strengthned by the former Propositions then by these Although the particular Propositions presented by Us concerning the Kingdome of Scotland are not yet agreed unto by the Houses of Parliament as was offered in their Papers of the tenth of Aprill Although divers Propositions of joynt concernment be now superseded and the sending of them delayed to a more convenient time as is expressed in the Votes of both Houses of the twenty sixth of March and although which is to Us more then all the rest those Ordinances of Parliament unto which the fifth and sixth Propositions doe relate and were therefore communicated unto Us upon our desire to see what the Houses had already agreed upon concerning Religion doe not containe the establishment of such a Reformation of Religion and uniformity as was expected and was the chiefe end of our engagement in this Warre and as all these Ordinances put together come short of what we wished so there are some particulars which we conceive to be inconsistent with the Word of God and the example of the best reformed Churches and therefore cannot in our consciences consent unto them which particulars were expressed to both Houses in the Remonstrance of the Commissioners of the Church of Scotland of the date March 26. 1646. Yet neverthelesse we do so earnestly desire and so highly value the easing of the heavy Pressures under which both Kingdomes groane and the bringing of this bloudy lasting warre to a speedy and happy end considering with-all that not onely the Booke of Common Prayer and the Prelaticall Government are abolished a Common directory of worship established in both Kingdoms but that likewise the Ordinances afore mentioned do containe divers Parts of a Positive Reformation and uniformity in Church-Government unto which we formerly gave our consent in our answer upon the whole propositions of Peace of the 20. of April and for so happy begining and so good a foundation laid for the future we heartily thank God and do acknowledge the zeale Piety and Wisedome of the Honourable Houses therin remembring also that those Ordinances doe not containe the whole moddell of Church government and that the Houses have beene Pleased to expresse that it cannot be expected that a perfect Rule in every Particular should be setled all at once but that there will be neede of suppliments aditions and happily of alterations in some things as experience shall bring to light the necessity thereof upon these Considerations as we doe cheerefully consent to many materiall Parts of these Propositions so we Resolve to make no let but to give way to the sending of such other particulars therein contained with which we are unsatisfied in the matters for the Reasons formerly Represented to both Houses of which some still stand in force though others of them be taken away by the new expedients it being alwayes understood that our not Dissenting from nor our opposing of the sending of the Propositions as they now stand shall be no prejudice nor Impediment to all or any one of the Articles of the Solemne League and Covenant especially to the first Article concerning the preservation of the Reformed Religion in the Church of Scotland in Doctrine Worship Discipline and Government against our Common enemies the Reformation of Religion in the Kingdomes of England and Ireland in Doctrine Worship Discipline and Government according to the Word of God and example of the Best Reformed Churches and the bringing of the Churches of God in the three Kingdomes to the neerest conjunction and uniformity in Religion Confession of faith forme of Church-government Directary for Worship and Catechising Which thing both Kingdomes are by Covenant oblieged sincerely and Really to Endeavour and that not for a time but constantly so that neither of the Kingdomes can be loosed or acquitted from the most strait and solemne obligation of their continued and constant endeavouring these good ends so farre as any of them is not yet attained it being also understood that our concurrence to the sending of the Propositions shall be without prejudice to any Agreement or Treaty betweene the Kingdomes and shall not infringe any Engagement made to the Kingdome of Scotland nor be any hindrance to our insisting upon the other Propositions already made knowne to the Houses and it being understood that it is not our Judgment that every Particular and Circumstance of these Propositions is of so great Importance to those Kingdomes as Peace and warre should depend thereupon Upon these grounds which we make known only for clearing our consciences and for discharging Our selves in the trust put upon us without the least thought of Retarding the so much longed for Peace We Condisend and agree that the Propositions as they are now Resolved upon be in the Name of Both Kingdomes presented to the King whose heart we beseech the Lord wholly to incline to the Councels of Truth and Peace Iune 25. 1646. 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