Selected quad for the lemma: england_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
england_n	according_a	church_n	doctrine_n	4,717	5	6.8021	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A61691	Babilons defence broken down and one of Antichrists warriours defeated in an answer to a scandalous pamphlet intituled, The Quaker-Jesuit, or, Popery in Quakerisme : put forth by one William Brownsword ... in which the doctrines of the Quakers ... are more truly stated than he hath stated them ... with a few queries to him concerning those doctrines and practices in which he hath compared us with the papists / by John Stoery.	Story, John, d. 1681.	1660 (1660)	Wing S5752; ESTC R24118	29,300	41

worshipped him after the strictest manner then held forth and this from our Infancy and upon what ground thou should charge us with being Jesuites and Papists I know not except it be to prove and shew thy self both ignorant slanderous and ridiculous amongst thy own hearers who doubtless some of them may say we know they are not such as thou hast said and the Witness in their consciences may prove thee a lyar and out-date thy book as an old Almanack ●it for the fire and thou hast wholly missed thy mark if thou thoughtest to lay a stumbling-block before thy Flock concerning us by this means of accusing of us falsly this shall do thee no good but turn to an offence against thy own self and as thou thought to do to others so shall it be done to thee and thou and thy work shall be rejected the one as ignorant and vain the other as ignorance and vanity for we are known to thy hearers to be neither Jesuits nor Papists but they can tell that thou art a false accuser in this And for thee to accuse us where we have been so well known renders thy selfe both ignorant and hatefull And it doth many wayes appear That wee are not Papists partly as I have said we were not such in the dayes of our Infancy neither educated nor practised therein but were zealous against Popery even from our childhood as the People of Kendal very well knows who can witness for us and against thee that we were neither such nor yet lovers of them but were altogether zealous against them from our childhood as I have said And it is evident we have been no such since we were reproached by the name of Quakers for we have given divers testimonies by writing in divers particular books which I might mention against the Church of Rome as knowing Her not to be the true Church of Christ but a false Church made up of Apostates originally and being Idolators in their Worship Church Ministry and whole Religion this testimony we have borne at sundry times and upon divers occasions sometimes we have given our testimony by writing against them plain affirmations and sometimes in answer to their writings against us and divers of us have been moved to go into their Dominions and declare the Word of the Lord against their Idolatryes And also divers of our friends forbearing their witness against the Church of Rome have suffered great and cruel things some until death and some at this day are in their Inquisitions and Goals and under suffering by them even for this cause for we have a large testimony and witness to give against the Church of Rome And by what we have testified in word and writing and by what we have suffered from them for so doing it well appears that we are not Jesuites nor Papists and with what face thou could accuse us it makes us to wonder at thy impudency seeing thou hast so little ground for it but hast upon thy malice thus falsly accused us without any just cause at all but this thy work which thou hast done shall return into thy own bosome with the reward of Judgement except thou repent and sin no more Yes but sayest thou you are Papists for why Such and such doctrines and practises you hold forth and the like is held forth by the Papists and this proves that you are so Answ Alas friend thou hast mightily discovered thy ignorance and folly in thus proceeding and in thus judging for doubtless the Papists may hold the profession of some truths in doctrines and practises unto this day even as thy own Brethren did confess at a certain Meeting of Dispute they affirmed to me that there were many saving truths held by the Church of Rome and seeing that they hold that Christ Jesus is the Saviour of the World and that by him people comes to eternal life and that he was born and died and rose again and seeing they hold that Saints must deny the world and forsake sin and the evil of the world These doctrines and practises with many others they do hold in words and appearance which are saving doctrines and practises in themselves though not to them but because they hold these things must the People of God either deny these doctrines and practises or else be accounted Jesuites and Papists for holding of them And would not this be unrighteous Judgement according to which thou hast judged us But I must tell thee we do hold the truth in righteousness both in doctrine and practises even upon this account because the Spirit of the Lord hath and doth lead us into all truth both in doctrine and practises And though the Papists may hold the profession of the same truth in words and outward appearance yet this is no ground for us to deny the truth as it is in Jesus nor yet a sufficient ground for thee to accuse us to be Papists but because thou art both ignorant and wicked therefore thou hast thus proceeded and thy work is a very scorn to many that are not Quakers and they see thy errour and ignorance in thy proceedings And wouldst thou thus be dealt withall And you Priests of England shall we judge you according to thine own rule might not I lay you to the line of Judgement and may not I instnace many particular things both in doctrines and practises which are held forth by the Ministers and Church of England and the Jesuites and Papists they hold the very same and shall we therefore conclude lawfully that all the Ministers of England and their People are Papists Oh man behold thy folly and what a snare thou hast laid for thy self and how thou art fallen into the pit which thou hast digged for others And further consider some of those doctrines and practises which thou hast charged upon us are proveable and exemplary in the Scriptures even by the Apostles who held forth and practised the same things and because we hold and practise the same therefore we are accounted Papists from this rule because the Papists profess the same like as if it were errour to say Christ is the Son of God because the Devil said so and like as if it were an errour to believe there is a God because the Devils believe so and by thy false proposed rule thou might have proved the one as soon as the other and thou might have said the Quakers are Devils why because the Devils confest Christ and they believe there is a God and therefore they are devils and would this be good Logick And such is thy Logick thou illiterate man Why this is thy work the Papists they hold such and such things and the Quakers they hold the same and therefore the Quakers are Papists Behold the substance of thy work thou vain man thou and thy work are both ridiculous to sober-minded people Now indeed if thou couldst have instanced such doctrines and practises held forth by us which the Papists do

hold forth which is neither provable nor exemplary in the Scriptures then thy colour had been more fair and thy pretence more spacious But because thou hast truly instanced nothing against us neither in doctrine nor practise but what we can prove sufficiently by the Scriptures therefore thy work is invalid even to many that are not of us For say they if this be Popery to follow the example of the Apostles in doctrine and practises its better to be a Papist then a Protestant for why the Protestants holds forth many doctrines and practises which are not proveable by the Scriptures and I might instance in many things that this is true even that you Ministers of England doth hold forth in doctrine and practise many things which is not proveable by the Scriptures but in some things even contrary to the Scriptures And what if I should compare thee and thy Brethren in some of your doctrines and practises which you hold and the Papists hold the same which is not according nor proveable by the Scriptures will not the conclusion fall upon thee and you that you are Popish Jesuites and like unto them as instance a few things amongst many you are made Ministers by Natural Learning and Languages through the attainment of such Arts and Sciences at Schools and Colledges which the Apostles were not and not by the immediate gift of the Spirit of God as the Apostles were and in this very way and manner are the Ministers of the Church of Rome made and sent forth And moreover by the Authority of the Church of Rome and by the Papists were your Colledges builded and ordained for the very use and end which you make of them and those Revenues as Tythes and other things which you yet uphold even your orders habits and formalities at Schools were given and ordained even in the daies of Popery and by the Whore of Romes Authority and you are in the very practise of that which they practised in this particular and you hold up and maintain that which the Papists instituted and first ordained and therefore are not you Papists and upholders of Popery let the witness in every mans conscience judge for you are doing and upholding the very same things which the Papists do which the Apostles never did and by thine own rule you are therefore Papists Again you are maintained in your Ministry by Tythes Gleab-lands Easter reckonings yearly stipends and so much by the year and settled in a Parochial way and thus were never the Apostles nor found in such practises but the Jesuites and Papists they are in the practise of such things that first instituted and ordained them in this Nation and herein you follow their example and not the example of the Scriptures and therefore we may conclude that you are Papists and follows their spirit and you practise what they practised even without any example at all in the Scriptures Again you sprinkle Infants and sayes it is the Baptisme into the Visible Church and Original Sin is thereby washed away and it is a Seal and a Sign of Regeneration and of the Covenant and this practise and doctrine the Papists hold forth and were indeed the first Founders and Ordainers of this practise and doctrine and it hath never been proved yet to us from the Scriptures but you hold it forth and the Papists they hold forth the same and therefore it may be concluded that you are Papists and yet upholds Popery by these and many other things that I might mention which you do and the Papists do the same and without any proof or example in the Scriptures or any of the Apostles doth fully demonstrate that you are more guilty of Popery then we are and Popery remains yet amongst you and these practises are but a few of many I might mention and this is but a hint at things which more largely might be spoken to and it is occasioned upon thee by thine own proceedings And I must tell thee that you are a company of shameless men to cry out against the Church of Rome for is not She your Mother and did not your Religion your Church and Ministry and Worship for the most part of it spring out of her bowels Yea it may easily be proved that the general part of your Worship doth consist of such practises brought forth in such a manner as was first instituted by the Whore of Rome both the practises themselves and the very manner of their performances and this may easily be proved and therefore you are shameless men to cry out of your Mother who hath made such fair provision for you She hath instituted and taught you a way for making of Ministers and She hath instituted and taught you a way of maintenance by Tythes and so much a year and she hath provided you your very houses for worshipping in for your Churches were her Mass-houses not many years ago And thus She the Whore of Rome your Mother hath made a large provision for you She hath taught you a way of Baptisme as I have mentioned and she hath taught you also the way of persecuting people for good conscience sake it was She that kill'd and destroyed persons for good conscience sake and it was She that forced and imposed Faith and practises upon peoples consciences contrary to the Spirit of God which you Ministers yet practises in part Many things I might instance to illustrate you to be like unto the Papists and even such as have sprung out of the Church of Rome But the Nation is begun already to see your shame and folly and if I were silent the Lord will not forget to repay his enemies with vengeance and the day of the Lord is at hand wherein his Judgements shall be known in the earth And thus I have measured thee according to thy own rule and I do leave it to the Witness of God in thy own Conscience and to all thy Parishioners to whom indeed I do wish well and that they might come to the knowledge of the things that belongs unto eternall life that they might be saved And ye people of Kendall and there abouts Oh that you would consider Oh that you would come to be taught of the Lord and every one of you to receive the Spirit of God which is the free gift of God that it might lead you into all truth according to the promise of the Lord for this is his promise That all his Children shall be taught of him his Law shall be written in their hearts and his Spirit put in their inward parts and they shall all be taught of the Lord and his Spirit shall lead them in all the wayes of righteousnesse Oh! how long will it be ere you come out of Idolatry and out of Antichristian wayes which long you have walked in and not only you but all Christian Nations for great hath been that darkness that hath been upon the world since the Apostles daies for Christ in his