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A43971 The art of rhetoric, with A discourse of the laws of England by Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury.; Art of rhetoric Hobbes, Thomas, 1588-1679. 1681 (1681) Wing H2212; ESTC R7393 151,823 382

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