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A39999 Rectius instruendum, or, A review and examination of the doctrine presented by one assuming the name of ane [sic] informer in three dialogues with a certain doubter, upon the controverted points of episcopacy, the convenants against episcopacy and separation : wherein the unsoundnes, and (in manythinges) the inconsistency of the informers principles, arguments, and answers upon these points, the violence which he hath offred unto the Holy Scripture and to diverse authors ancient and modern, is demonstrat and made appear, and that truth which is after godlines owned by the true Protestant Presbyterian Church of Scotland asserted and vindicated. Forrester, Thomas, 1635?-1706. 1684 (1684) Wing F1597; ESTC R36468 441,276 728

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ecclesiastical_a officer_n who_o be_v there_o abjure_v nay_o do_v not_o timorcus_n tell_v we_o that_o in_o england_n the_o commissary_n exercise_v a_o power_n in_o church_n discipline_n by_o a_o delegation_n from_o the_o bishop_n and_o do_v not_o bishop_n lighton_n deny_v this_o to_o be_v competent_a to_o our_o commissary_n here_o for_o in_o that_o passage_n of_o the_o letter_n now_o cite_v he_o say_v we_o have_v nothing_o but_o the_o name_n of_o commissary_n he_o mean_v in_o respect_n of_o these_o in_o england_n who_o exercise_v ecclesiastical_a discipline_n under_o the_o bishop_n didoclavius_n pag._n 458._o cites_n cowellus_fw-la in_o interpret_v about_o the_o office_n of_o the_o bishop_n commissary_n in_o england_n speak_v thus_o commissarij_fw-la vox_fw-la titulus_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesiasticae_fw-la jurisdictionis_fw-la saltem_fw-la quousque_fw-la commissio_fw-la permittit_fw-la in_fw-la partibus_fw-la diocesios_fw-gr a_fw-la primaria_fw-la civitate_fw-la tam_fw-la long_o dissitis_fw-la ut_fw-la cancellarius_fw-la subditos_fw-la ad_fw-la principale_v consistorium_fw-la episcopi_fw-la citare_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o be_v that_o commissary_n in_o england_n be_v a_o title_n of_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n so_o faras_fw-mi his_o commission_n will_v allow_v in_o place_n which_o be_v so_o far_o remote_a from_o the_o chief_n city_n of_o the_o diocese_n that_o the_o chancellor_n without_o great_a molestation_n can_v cite_v they_o to_o the_o bishop_n chief_n court_n didoclavius_n tell_v we_o ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la that_o according_a to_o the_o statute_n of_o england_n the_o chancellor_n be_v the_o bishop_n principal_a official_a &_o the_o commissary_n the_o bishop_n foraneous_a official_a to_o conclude_v 1._o the_o bishop_n power_n as_o to_o civill_n and_o their_o deputation_n of_o this_o their_o power_n to_o chancellor_n be_v a_o most_o gross_a usurpation_n contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n which_o forbid_v the_o minister_n to_o entangle_v himself_o with_o thing_n of_o this_o life_n our_o lord_n himself_o will_v not_o so_o much_o as_o be_v a_o arbyter_n in_o a_o civil_a cause_n paul_n speak_v of_o the_o ministerial_a duty_n say_v who_o be_v sufficient_a for_o these_o thing_n the_o apostle_n must_v give_v themselves_o continual_o to_o the_o word_n cartwright_n against_o the_o rhemist_n upon_o 2._o of_o tim._n 2._o 4._o prove_v that_o pure_a antiquity_n know_v nothing_o of_o prelate_n thus_o meddle_v cite_v jerome_n super_fw-la sophon_n cap._n 1._o who_o expound_v that_o place_n against_o minister_n meddle_v in_o secular_a affair_n and_o cyprian_a who_o apply_v this_o place_n against_o one_o who_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o be_v executor_n of_o a_o testament_n lib._n 1._o epist._n 9_o council_n carthag_n 4._o cap._n 20._o apostol_n can_v can._n 6._o seculares_fw-la curas_fw-la non_fw-la suscipite_fw-la likewise_o ambrose_n who_o affirm_v that_o worldly_a government_n be_v the_o weaken_n of_o the_o priest_n lib._n 5._o epist._n 33._o smectimnuus_n pag._n 32._o sect._n 10._o cite_v council_n hispall_n 2._o cyprian_n epist._n 28._o against_o this_o deputation_n of_o prelate_n power_n to_o chancellor_n commissary_n etc._n etc._n and_o bring_v in_o bishop_n dounham_n aknowledge_v defence_n lib._n 1._o that_o in_o ambrose_n time_n and_o a_o good_a while_n after_o which_o be_v about_o the_o year_n 400._o till_o presbyter_n be_v whole_o neglect_v the_o bishop_n have_v no_o ordinary_n vicar_n chancellor_n commissary_n that_o be_v not_o clergy_n man_n but_o this_o restriction_n they_o affirm_v to_o be_v a_o mere_a blind_a and_o challenge_v he_o to_o show_v any_o such_o under-officer_n of_o bishop_n in_o those_o time_n so_o that_o they_o hold_v this_o to_o be_v one_o main_a point_n of_o difference_n betwixt_o their_o bishop_n and_o the_o primitive_a bishop_n two_o in_o england_n not_o only_o have_v the_o commissary_n a_o civil_a administration_n under_o the_o bishop_n but_o have_v likewise_o power_n of_o spiritual_a censure_n and_o a_o great_a part_n of_o the_o bishop_n ecclesiastical_a administration_n commit_v unto_o he_o both_o over_o minister_n and_o other_o such_o as_o suspension_n deposition_n excommunication_n see_v didoclav_n pag._n 464_o 465._o de_fw-fr officialibus_fw-la cartwright_n 2._o repl_n part_n 2._o pag._n 69._o who_o show_v that_o the_o prelate_n not_o only_a exercise_n tyrrany_n themselves_o over_o the_o church_n but_o bring_v it_o under_o subjection_n to_o their_o very_a servant_n yea_o their_o servant_n servant_n such_o as_o chancellor_n commissary_n etc._n etc._n 3_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o since_o the_o reformation_n we_o never_o have_v in_o scotland_n such_o commissary_n but_o our_o law_n and_o practice_n since_o that_o time_n and_o since_o popish_a prelacy_n be_v dissolve_v have_v much_o reduce_v they_o to_o the_o state_n &_o quality_n of_o other_o civil_a officer_n who_o administration_n of_o its_o own_o nature_n depend_v upon_o superior_a civil_a officer_n for_o this_o we_o have_v as_o i_o say_v bishop_n lightons_n own_o confession_n that_o we_o have_v but_o the_o name_n of_o commissary_n here_o who_o have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o church_n discipline_n only_o their_o civil_a power_n be_v invade_v again_o by_o the_o prelate_n 4_o b_o lighton_n and_o this_o informer_n do_v both_o plead_v that_o its_o only_a the_o officer_n enumerat_a in_o the_o 2d_o article_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o the_o commissary_n as_o then_o mould_v &_o existent_a in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n that_o this_o oath_n oblidge_n against_o and_o so_o according_a to_o their_o principle_n and_o plead_v our_o commissary_n here_o so_o vast_o discrepant_a from_o they_o fall_v not_o within_o the_o compass_n of_o the_o covenant_n abjuration_n hence_o final_o the_o own_n of_o the_o commissary_n in_o his_o lawful_a civil_a administration_n can_v be_v no_o acknowledgement_n either_o 1._o of_o the_o english_a commissary_n power_n which_o he_o have_v not_o nor_o two_o of_o the_o prelate_n usurpation_n upon_o this_o civil_a office_n no_o more_o than_o the_o simple_a use_v of_o our_o civil_a law_n and_o the_o ordinary_a civil_a court_n during_o cromwell_n usurpation_n be_v a_o homologate_a the_o wickedness_n thereof_o which_o this_o man_n will_v not_o dare_v to_o assert_v a_o usurper_n may_v be_v in_o titulo_fw-la and_o such_o submission_n and_o improvement_n of_o the_o ciu●…l_a power_n invade_v by_o he_o as_o do_v acknowledge_v the_o providentiall_a title_n and_o his_o be_v possess_v of_o the_o power_n de_fw-fr facto_fw-la and_o have_v as_o they_o use_v to_o say_v jus_o in_o re_fw-mi or_o actual_a providential_a possession_n thereof_o if_o there_o be_v no_o active_a concurrence_n towards_o his_o establishment_n be_v as_o to_z civill_n free_a of_o any_o guilt_n of_o the_o usurpation_n and_o will_v import_v no_o acknowledgement_n of_o the_o usurper_n his_o pretend_a jus_o which_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o all_o sound_a divine_n and_o casuist_n but_o the_o case_n be_v far_o different_a as_o to_o our_o informer_n derive_v his_o depute_a ecclesiastical_a ministry_n or_o spiritual_a authority_n from_o the_o bishop_n because_o 1._o the_o prelate_n office_n itself_o be_v a_o gross_a usurpation_n contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n so_o be_v not_o the_o commissary_n office_n two_o the_o pelat_n usurp_v possession_n of_o unlawful_a power_n over_o the_o church_n which_o be_v christ_n kingdom_n can_v give_v he_o so_o much_o as_o a_o providentiall_a title_n and_o therefore_o all_o acknowledgement_n thereof_o be_v unlawful_a three_o his_o submission_n to_o prelacy_n as_o now_o it_o stand_v circumstantiat_fw-la be_v a_o acknowledgement_n both_o of_o the_o possession_n and_o jus_o which_o this_o man_n will_v not_o deny_v and_o this_o be_v far_o dictinct_a from_o a_o act_n which_o do_v but_o indirect_o acknowledge_v the_o usurper_n possession_n so_o that_o his_o conformity_n be_v one_fw-mi express_v acknowledgement_n and_o own_n of_o a_o gross_a encroachment_n upon_o christ_n kingdom_n his_o church_n which_o be_v toto_fw-la coelo_fw-la different_a from_o acknowledge_v a_o possession_n de_fw-fr facto_fw-la of_o and_o a_o providential_a title_n unto_o a_o part_n of_o the_o civil_a administration_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o world_n which_o be_v mutable_a and_o as_o for_o a_o testimony_n against_o this_o usurpation_n i_o suppose_v that_o have_v the_o people_n of_o god_n disow_v these_o civil_a court_n upon_o this_o ground_n of_o the_o covenant_n obligation_n his_o party_n for_o the_o precede_a reason_n have_v signal_o cry_v out_o against_o it_o as_o a_o anabaptistical_n reject_v of_o lawful_a civil_a government_n more_o than_o he_o do_v upon_o this_o pretence_n allege_v a_o homologate_a of_o prelacy_n in_o this_o acknowledgement_n but_o however_o we_o say_v that_o the_o people_n of_o god_n their_o notour_n and_o stand_a testimony_n against_o prelacy_n itself_o as_o now_o establish_v do_v sufficient_o reach_v this_o among_o other_o its_o usurpation_n although_o this_o piece_n of_o civil_a government_n be_v eatenus_fw-la or_o in_o its_o own_o nature_n and_o as_o such_o own_v as_o former_o but_o now_o our_o informer_n charge_v we_o with_o another_o breach_n of_o covenant_n upon_o the_o ground_n