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prophecy_n of_o esay_n be_v fulfil_v in_o these_o our_o day_n who_o say_v concern_v the_o church_n king_n shall_v be_v thy_o nurse_n father_n and_o queen_n thy_o nurse_n mother_n esa_n 49.23_o etc._n etc._n for_o now_o who_o see_v not_o that_o many_o christian_a prince_n in_o the_o world_n be_v become_v the_o child_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n and_o the_o same_o be_v teach_v by_o 656._o by_o in_o his_o apoca_n in_o c._n 20_o p._n 656._o m._n brightman_n 81._o brightman_n plain_n evidence_n etc._n etc._n p._n 72._o 73._o 81._o and_o m._n bernard_n yea_o in_o this_o respect_n protestant_n disclaim_v from_o all_o former_a conversion_n of_o england_n germany_n helvetia_n france_n and_o poland_n doubt_v not_o therefore_o to_o make_v tindal_n 71._o tindal_n epistle_n to_o england_n write_v from_o brasile_n p._n 71._o luther_n zuinglius_fw-la caluin_n and_o john_n à _fw-fr lasco_n the_o first_o converter_n or_o apostle_n of_o those_o several_a nation_n so_o m._n stalbridge_n avouch_v 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