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A83496 Speeches and passages of this great and happy Parliament: from the third of November, 1640, to this instant June, 1641. Collected into one volume, and according to the most perfect originalls, exactly published. England and Wales. Parliament.; Mervyn, Audley, Sir, d. 1675.; Pym, John, 1584-1643.; Strafford, Thomas Wentworth, Earl of, 1593-1641. 1641 (1641) Wing E2309; Thomason E159_1; ESTC R212697 305,420 563

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God had endowed the Church of England with which God himself hath given by his Law unto the universall Church and in that which the Kings of England by their Charter have bequeathed to the particular Church of England and this we doubt not was the cause that moved Hen. 8. so effectually and powerfully to bend himselfe against the Popes Supremacy usurped at that time over the Church of England for saith the King we will with hazard of life and losse of our Crown uphold and defend in our Realms whatsoever we shall know to be the will of God The Church of God then in England not being free according to the great Charter but in bondage and servitude to the See of Rome contrary to the Law of God the King judged it to stand highly with honour and his Oath to reform redresse and amend the abuses of the same See If then it might please our gracious Soveraign Lord King Charles that now is in Imitation of that his noble Progenitor to vouchsafe an abolishment of all Lordly Primacy executed by Archepiscopall and Episcopall authority over the Ministers of Christ his Highnesse in so doing could no more rightly be charged with the violation of the great Charter then might King Henry the eight with the banishment of the Popish Supremacy or then our late Soveraign Lady Q. Elizabeth could be justly burdened with the breach of her Oath by the Establishment of the Gospell Now if the Kings of England by reason of their Oath were so straitly tied to the words of the great Charter that they might not in any sort have disanulled any supposed Rights or Liberties of the Church used and confirmed by the said Charter unto the Church that then was supposed to be the Church of God in England then be like King Henry 8. might be attainted to have gone against the great Charter and against his Oath when by the overthrow of Abbeys and Monasteries he took away the Rights and Liberties of the Abbots Priers for by expresse words of the great Charter Abbots and Priers had as large and ample a Patent for their Rights and Liberties as our Archbishops and Bishops can at this day challenge for their Primacy If then the Rights and Liberties of the one as being against the Law of God be duely and lawfully taken away notwithstanding any matter clause or sentence contained in the great Charter the other having but little reason by colour of the great Charter to stand upon their pantofles and to contend for their painted sheaves for this is a Rule and Maxime in Gods laws that In omni Juramento semper excipitur authoritas majoris Unlesse then they be able to justifie by the holy scriptures that such Rights and Liberties as they pretend for their spirituall Primacy over the Ministers of Christ be in Deed and Truth inferred unto them by the holy law of God I suppose the Kings Highnesse as successor to Hen. 8. and as most just inheritour of the Crown of England by the words of the great Charter and by his Oath is bound utterly to abolish all Lordly Primacy as hitherto upheld and defended partly by ignorance and partly by an unreasonable and evill Custome My Lord DIGBIES Speech in Parliament 1640. Master Speaker THis happie meeting is to bemoane and redresse the unhappie State of this Common-wealth Let me have I beseech you your leave to give you in a word a short view of our griefes then see whence they flow Our Lawes our liberties our lives and which is the life of all our Religion all which have been by the endeavours of so many Ages secured and made so much our owne can scarce be called ours Our Lawes the only finews and ligeaments of our estates which should run in an even streame are now made to disdaine their bancks and to overflow and drown their fields which they should gently redresse our liberties the very spirit and essence of our weale which should differ us from slaves and speake us English-men are held away by them that even whiles they take them from us cannot but confesse they are our proper dues Are not our lives in danger when an enemy disguised like a friend provoked is as it were suffered because indirectly and in vaine resisted to come almost into our bosomes to rifle some of their goods others of their loyalty which perhaps they could not neither would have touched might we with united force have resisted And lastly which is the soule of all our grievances our Religion which should have beene our Cordiall in all our distempers like a forced Virgin laments ever that her pure innocencie is taken from her and sure all these effects must have their causes That we have just and wise Lawes we may thanke those good Kings that made them the settled exposition of just circumscribed Lawes to binde and defend the Subject That they are so well framed and usefud and to containe enough to make a good King and people be perfect be safe and happie What do we owe to these grave Councellors who sate here before us and that they out-live the malice of some unbounded spirits we are beholding to them that Reprieved them from ruine with their lives and fortunes we call them ours because we are freely born to them as to the Ayre we breath in we claime them and should possesse them under the Protection of our gracious King who is their great Patron and disposes them not inconsiderately but by the advice of those learned expositors of the Lawes the Judges and those whom he trusts to be his great and faithfull Councellors If those pervert the ground and meaning of the Law and contract ●he power of it or make it speake lowder or softer as they themselves are tuned for it the blame should deservedly fall on those mistrusted ministers who are the base betrayers of his Majesties honor and his Peoples right to vindicate which necessitie hath here assembled you Mr. Speaker Is not this offence and m lice as great who should undermine my Tenour and surruptiously deprive me of my evidence by which I held my Inheritance as he who by violence should wrest it from me The Scots we have heard branded as Traytors because they have contrary to the law of Nations and their loyaltie invaded our Kingdome in Arms what other title have they merited who have invaded our Lawes and liberties the precious evidence by which we should freely enjoy our selves and our estates The first we may resist and drive forth by united force and it will be called pietie to the King and Countrie if force be lay'd against the other it will be stiled Rebellion What now remaines but that we should use the Law which because it hath beene inverted and turned against us contrary to its owne naturall and plaine disposition should now right us and it self against our Adversaries Surely the Law is not so weak and improvident to take care for others and never provide
This it was Master Speaker His advising the King to employ the Army of Ireland to reduce England This I was assured would be proved before I gave my consent to his accusation I was confirmed in the same beliefe during the prosecution and fortified in it most of all since Sir Henry Vaines preparatory examinations by the assurances which that worthy member Mr. Pymme gave me that his Testimony would be made convincing by some notes of what passed at the Junto concurrent with it which I ever understanding to be of some other Counsellour you see now prove but a Copie of the same Secretaries notes discover'd and produc't in the manner you have heard and those Such disioynted fragments of the venemous part of discourses no results no conclusions of Counsels which are the onely things that Secretaries should register there being no use at all of the other but to accuse and to bring men into danger But Sir this is not that which overthrowes the evidence with mee concerning the Army of Ireland nor yet that all the rest of the Iunto upon their oathes remember nothing of it But this Sir which I shall tell you is that which works with mee under favour to an utter overthrow of his evidence as unto that of the Army of Ireland Before whil'st I was a prosecutor and under tye of Secrecie I might not discover any weakenesse of the cause which now as a Judge I must Master Secretary was examined thrice upon Oath at the preparatory Committee The first time he was questioned to all the Interrogatories and to that part of the seventh which concernes the Army of Ireland he said positively in these words I cannot charge him with that But for the rest he desires time to recollect himselfe which was granted him Some dayes after he was examined a second time and then deposes these words concerning the Kings being absolved from rules of government and so forth very clearely But being prest to that part concerning the Irish Army againe can say nothing to that Here wee thought wee had done with him till divers weeks after my Lord of Northumberland and all others of the Junto denying to have heard any thing concerning those words of reducing England by the Irish Army it was thought fit to examine the Secretary once more and then he deposes these words to have beene said by the Earle of Strafford to his Majestie You have an Army in Ireland which you may imploy here to reduce or some word to that sence this Kingdome Mr. Speaker these are the circumstances which I confesse with my Conscience thrust quite out of dores that grand Article of our charge concerning his desperate advice to the King of employing the Irish Army here Let not this I beseech you be driven to an aspersion upon Master Secretary as if he should have sworn otherwise then he knew or beleeved hee is too worthy to doe that onely let thus much be inferr'd from it that hee who twice upon Oath with time of recollection could not remember any thing of such a businesse might well a third time misremember somewhat and in this businesse the difference of one Letter here for there or that for this quite alters the case the latter also being the more probable since it is confest of all hands that the debate then was concerning a warre with Scotland and you may remember that at the Bar he once said to employ there And thus Mr. Speaker I have faithfully given you an account what it is that hath blunted the edge of the Hatchet or Bill with me towards my Lord of Strafford This was that whereupon I accused him with a free heart prosecuted him with earnestnesse and had it to my understanding beene proved should have condemned him with innocence Whereas now I cannot satisfie my conscience to doe it I professe I can have no notion of any bodies intent to subvert the Lawes treasonably or by force and this designe of force not appearing all his other wicked practises cannot amount so high with me I can finde a more easie and more naturall spring from whence to derive all his other Crimes then from an intent to bring in Tyrannie and to make his owne posterity as well as us Slaves as from revenge from Pride from Avarice from Passion and insolence of Nature But had this of the Irish Army been proved it would have diffused a complexion of Treason over all it would have beene a With indeed to bind all those other scattered and lesser branches as it were into a Faggot of Treason I doe not say but the rest may represent him a man as worthy to dye and perhaps worthier then many a Traytor I doe not say but they may justly direct us to Enact that they shall be Treason for the future But God keepe mee from giving judgement of death on any Man and of ruine to his innocent Posterity upon a Law made â posteriori Let the mark be set on the dore where the Plague is and then let him that will enter dye I know Master Speaker there is in Parliament a double power of life and death by Bill a judiciall power and a Legislative the measure of the one is what 's Legally just of the other what is prudentially and politickly fit for the good and preservation of the whole But those two under favour are not to be confounded in Judgement Wee must not peece up want of Legality with matter of convenience nor the defailance of prudentiall fitnesse with a pretence of legall Justice To condemne my Lord of Strafford judicially as for Treason my conscience is not assured that the matter will bear it And to doe it by the Legislative power my reason consultively cannot agree to that since I am perswaded neither the Lords nor the King will passe the Bill and consequently that our passing it will be a cause of great divisions and combustions in the State And therefore my humble advice is that laying aside this Bill of Attainder we may think of another saving only life such as may secure the State from my Lord of Strafford without endangering it as much by division concerning his punishment as he hath endangered it by his practices If this may not be hearkned unto let me conclude in saying that unto you all which I have throughly inculcated to mine owne conscience upon this occasion Let every man lay his hand upon his heart and sadly consider what we are going to doe with a breath either justice or murther justice on the one side or murther heightned and aggravated to its supreamest extent For as the Casuists say that he who lyes with his sister commits incest but he that marries his sister sinnes higher by applying Gods Ordinance to his crime So doubtlesse he that commits murther with the sword of Justice heightens that crime to the utmost The danger being so great and the case so doubtfull that I see the best Lawyers in diametrall opposition concerning it
Petitioners do most heartily bemone that his Maiesties services and profits are much more impaired than advanced by the grievances aforesaid And the Subsidies granted in the last Parliament having much increased his Maiesties Revenue by the buying in of Grants and otherwise and that all his Maiesties debts then due in this Kingdome were satisfied out of the sayd Subsidies and yet his Maiesty is of late as your Petitioners have beene inform'd in the House of Commons become indebted in this Kingdome in great sums and they do therefore humbly beseech that an exact account may be sent to his Maiesty how and in what manner his treasure issued XII Twelfthly the Petitioners do humbly co●ceive great and iust fears at a Proclamation published in this Kingdome in Anno Dom. 1635. prohibiting men of quality or estate for to depart this Kingdome into England without the Lord Deputies License whereby the Subiects of this Kingdome are hindered and interrupted from free accesse and addresse to his sacred Maiesty and Privie Counsell of England to declare their iust grievances or to obtaine remedie for them in such sort as their Ancestors have done in all ages since the Reigne of King Henry the second and great Fees exacted for every of the said Licenses XIII Thirteenthly that of late his Maiesties late Attourny generall hath exhibited informations against many ancient Burroughs of this Kingdome into his Mai sties Court of Exchequer to shew by what warrant the sayd Burroughes who heretofore sent Burgesses to the Parliament should send the sayd Burgesses to the Parliament And thereupon for want of an answer the sayd Priviledge of sending Burgesses was seized by the sayd Court which proceedings were altogether Coram non Judice and contrary to the Lawes and Priviledges of the House of Parliament and if way should be given thereunto might tend to the subversion of Parliaments and by consequence to the ruine and destruction of the Common-wealth and that the House of Commons hath hitherto in this present Parliament bin deprived of the advice and Counsell of many profitable and good members by means thereof XIV Fourteenthly that by the powerfulnesse of some ministers of State in this Kingdome the Parliament in its members and actions hath not his naturall freedome XV. Fifteenthly that the fees taken in all the Courts of Iustice in this Kingdome both Ecclesiasticall and Civill and by other inferiour Officers and Ministers are so immoderately high that it is an unspeakable burthen to all his Maiesties Subiects of this who are not able to subsist except the same be speedily remedied and reduced to such a moderation as may stand with the condition of this Realme And lastly That the Gentry Merchants and other his Maiesties Subiects of this Kingdome are of late by the grievances and pressures aforesayd and other the like very neere to ruine and destruction And Farmers of Customes Customers Waiters Searchers Clearks of unwarrentable proceedings Pursevants and Gaolers and sundry others very much inriched whereby and by the slow redresse of the Petitioners grievances his Maiesties most faithfull and dutifull people of this Kingdome do conceive great feares that their readinesse approved upon all occasions hath not been of late rightly represented to his Maiesty For Remedy whereof the said Petitioners do humbly and of Right beseech your Lordship that the grievances and pressures may be speedily redressed And if your Lordship shall not think sit to afford us present relief therein that your Lordship may admit a select Committee of this House of persons un interessed in the benefit arising the aforesaid grievances to be licensed by your Lordship to repaire to his sacred Maiesty in England for to pursue the same and to obtain fitting Remedies for their aforesaid and other iust grievances and oppressions and upon all iust and honorable occasions they will without respect of particular interest or profit to be raised thereby most humbly and readily in Parliament extend their utmost indeavours to serve his Maiesty and comply with his Royall and Princely occasions And shall pray c. A Speech against the Judges per Ignotum quendam Mr. Speaker IT was a custome among the Romans who as by their power they once gave laws so by the happy successe of their long flourishing Government might they well give examples to all the world that in their Senates the yongest men spake first partly that they might not have their weaker notions anticipated by the more knowing Senators And partly that the Senate might not be diverted from the mature resolutions of the more ancient by the interposition of the younger men They as all free States ever allowing free members to expresse themselves according to their severall capacities And me thinks 't was a happy Method So your opinions and inclinations of the Assembly being discovered and ripened to resolution by such gradations the sentences of the Sages sounded as Iudgements not orations their wisedome and gravity put a seasonable Period to others perhaps otherwise endlesse discourses Their precedent encourges me who worst may to break the Ice Children can lay their fingers on the Sore point out their pain and Infant Graduates in Parliament may groan out the grievances of a diseased Common-wealth but they must be Doctors in the Art of Government that can apply apt remedies to recover it Mr. Speaker Ancient and approved hath been that parallell of the body politique with the body naturall 'T is the part of their Patients in either distempered to impart freely their griefs to the Physitians of the body or state if they expect a cure This Common-wealth is or should be but one body This house the great Physitian of all our maladies and alas Mr. Speaker of what afflicted part shall we poor Patients complain first Or rather of what shall we not complain Are we not heart-sick Is there in us that which God requires unity purity and singulari y of heart Nay is not Religion the soul of this body so miserably distracted that I speak it with terrour of heart 't is to be feared there is more confusion of religions amongst us then there was of tongues at the subversion of Babell And is it not then high time that we understand one another that we were reduc'd to one Faith one Government Sir Is the Head whole The sear of Government and Justice the Fountain from whose sweet influence all the inferiour members of this body should receive both vigour and motion Nay hath not rather a generall Apoplexy or Palsie taken o●shaken all our members Are not some dead Others buried quick Some dismembred all disordered by the diversion of the course of Justice Is the Liver Natures Exchequer open from whose free distribution each limb may receive his proper Nutriment or rather is it not wholly obstructed Our property taken from us So that it may properly be said of us Sic vos non vobis fertis aratra our Ancestors drunk the juyce of their own Vines reap'd and eat the fruit
Inhabitants are reduced to great poverty and many of them forced to forsake the Countrey the same beeing the first and most usefull Plantation in the large Province of that Ulster to the great weakning of the Kingdome in in this time of danger the said plantation being the principall strength of those parts 9. The late erection of the Court of high Commission for causes Ecclesiasticall in those necessitous times the proceedings of the said Court in many causes without legal warrant and yet so supported as prohibitions have not been obtained though legally sought for And the excessive fees exacted by the Ministers thereof and the encroaching of the same upon the jurisdiction of other Ecclesiasticall Courts of this Kingdome 10. The exorbitant fees and pretended Customes exacted by the Clergy against the Law some of which have been formerly represented to your Lordship 11. The Petitioners doe most heartily bemone that his Majesties service and profit are much more impaired then advanced by the grievances aforesaid the Subsidies graunted in the last Parliament having much increased his Majesties revenue by the buying of graunts and otherwise and that all his Majesties debts then due in this Kingdome were satisfied out of the said Subsidies and yet his Majesty is of late as the petitioners have been informed in the house of Commons become indepted in this Kingdome in great somes And they doe therefore humbly beseech that an exact accompt may bee sent to his Majesty how and in what manner his treasure issued 12. The Petitioners doe humbly conceive just and great feares at a Proclamation published in this Kingdome in Anno Domini 1635. Prohibiting men of quality or estates to depart this Kingdome into England without the Lord Deputies Licence wherein the Subjects of this Kingdome are hindered and interrupted from free accesse to addres to his sacred Majesty and privie Counsell of England to declare their just grievances or to obtaine remedies for them in such fort as their Ancestors have done in all ages since the Reigne of King Henry the second and great fees exacted for every of the said Licenses 13. That of late his Majesties late Atourney generall hath exhibited Informations against many Boroughs of this Kingdome into his Majesties Court of Exchequer to shew cause by what warrant the said Burgesses who heretofore sent Burgesses to the Parliament should send the Burgesses to the Parliament and thereupon for want of an answere the said priviledges of sending Burgesses was seised by the said Court which proceedings were altogether Coram non Iudice and contrary to the lawes and priviledges of the house of Parliament and if way should be given thereunto would tend to the subversion of Parliaments and by consequence to the ruine and destruction of the Common-wealth And that the house of Commons hath hitherto in this present Parliament been deprived of the advice and Counsell of many profitable and good members by means thereof 14. By the powerfulnesse of some Ministers of state in this Kingdome the Parliament in its members and actions hath not his naturall freedome 15. And lastly that the Gentry and Merchants and other his Majesties Subjects of this Kingdome are of late by the grievances and pressures before said other the like brought very neere to ruine and destruction And Farmers of Customes Customers Waiters Searchers Clarkes of unwarrantable proceedings Pursivants and Goalers and sundry others very much enriched whereby and by the slow redress of the petitioners his Majesties most faithfull and dutifull people of this Kingdome doe conceive great feares that their readinesse approved upon all occasions hath not beene of latere presented to his sacred Majesty For remedy whereof the said Petitioners doe humbly and of right beseech your Lordship that the said grievances and pressures may bee speedily redressed and if your Lordship shall not thinke fit to afford present reliefe that your Lordship might admit a select Committee of this house of Persons uninteressed in the benefit a rising of the aforesaid grievances to be licensed by your Lordship to repaire to his sacred Majesty in England for to pursue the same and to obtaine fitting remedy for their aforesaid and other just grievances and expressions and upon all just and honourable occasions they will without respect of particular interest or profit to be raised thereby most humbly and readily in Parliament extend their uttermost endeavour to serve his Majesty and comply with his royall and princely occasions And shal pray c. Mr. Secretarie Windebancks Charge in Parliament 7. December 1640. 1 SEventie fower Letters of grace to Recusants within this fowr yeares signed with his owne hands 2. Sixtie foure Priests discharged from the Gatehouse at Westminster within these 4. years and for the most part by him 3. Twenty nine discharged by a verball warrent from him 4. Awarrant to protect one Musket a condemned Priest and al● the houses he frequented 5. One committed by the Kings own hand and discharged by him without signifying the Kings pleasure 6. The Retition of the parish of St. Gyles in the fields to the King of the increase of Poperie and that 21. were turned by two Priests Mosse and Souther which being committed were suddenly discharged by Secretary Windebanck A message from the House of Commons to his Majesty 15. December 1640 Mr. Treasurer IS intreated from this house to acquaint his Majesty with the great care and affection of the house to advance and settle his Majesties Revenue and for that purpose we humbly desire his Majesty will give us leave to enter into debate of his revenue and his expence His Majesties answere thereto by Mr. Treasurer HIs Majesty being by me acquainted with the great care and affection of the house of Commons to advance and settle his Maiesties Revenew doth very graciously interpret the same and hath commanded me to give the House thankes for it in his name and his Majesty doth give the House free leave to enter into debate of his Revenews and Expences as is desired and hath given order that all his Officers and Ministers from time to time shall assist the House therein as there shall be occasion Vote concerning the Cannons in the House of Commons 15. Decem. 1640. THat the Clergy of England Convented in any Convocation or Synod or otherwise have no power to make any Constitutions Cannons or Acts whatsoever in matter of Doctrine or otherwise to bind the Clergy or Laity of this Land without the Commons consent of Parliament That the severall Constitutions and Cannons Ecclesiasticall Treated upon by the Arch-bishop of Canterbury and Yorke Presidents of the Convocation for the respective Provinces of Canterbury and Yorke and the rest of the Bishops and Clergy of these Provinces and agreed upon by the Kings Maiestics lycence in their several Synods began at London and York 1640. do not bind the Clergy or Laity of this Land or either of them An Order concerning Monopolers 19. November 1640. JT is ordered that upon