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A45394 An account of Mr. Cawdry's triplex diatribe concerning superstition, wil-worship, and Christmass festivall by H. Hammond. Hammond, Henry, 1605-1660. 1655 (1655) Wing H511; ESTC R28057 253,252 314

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opportunity_n but_o of_o some_o other_o preacher_n in_o other_o church_n where_o this_o festival_n be_v not_o observe_v such_o as_o andrew_n rivet_n in_o the_o low_a country_n who_o as_o i_o have_v be_v inform_v constant_o preach_v on_o that_o day_n to_o his_o auditor_n which_o be_v a_o civility_n fit_a to_o be_v mention_v to_o those_o that_o will_v now_o perform_v that_o office_n on_o any_o day_n of_o the_o week_n rather_o than_o on_o that_o sect._n 10._o eject_v festival_n separation_n from_o the_o pure_a time_n even_o those_o of_o the_o apostle_n our_o church_n departure_n from_o rome_n unjust_o parallel_v with_o the_o departure_n of_o son_n from_o our_o church_n my_o 3_o consideration_n be_v that_o the_o rase_v this_o festivity_n out_o of_o the_o calendar_n be_v a_o act_n of_o separation_n from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o the_o universal_a church_n of_o all_o age_n especial_o of_o the_o first_o and_o pure_a time_n to_o this_o he_o answer_v by_o denial_n of_o both_o part_n 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no_o analogy_n betwixt_o the_o church_n of_o england_n depart_v from_o rome_n and_o the_o diatribist_n depart_v from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n i_o may_v instance_n in_o many_o it_o will_v be_v sufficient_a that_o i_o show_v it_o in_o two_o particular_n 1._o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o the_o reformation_n depart_v not_o from_o their_o lawful_a superior_n be_v as_o the_o diatribist_n acknowledge_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o owe_v no_o subordination_n to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n when_o she_o depart_v from_o she_o whereas_o the_o person_n then_o speak_v of_o by_o i_o and_o the_o diatribist_n for_o one_o be_v certain_o member_n that_o ought_v a_o christian_a obedience_n to_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o inferior_n to_o superior_n and_o so_o depart_v from_o their_o lawful_a superior_n wherein_o schism_n do_v principal_o consist_v as_o have_v elsewhere_o be_v show_v those_o thing_n wherein_o the_o church_n of_o england_n reform_v and_o depart_v from_o the_o romish_a opinion_n and_o practice_n be_v none_o of_o they_o such_o as_o this_o of_o festival_n now_o appear_v to_o be_v i._n e._n common_a usage_n of_o the_o universal_a ancient_a especial_o of_o the_o primitive_a pure_a church_n but_o innovation_n undue_o bring_v in_o by_o they_o and_o impose_v on_o all_o christian_n and_o as_o even_o now_o so_o again_o this_o diatribist_n confession_n here_o be_v more_o to_o the_o advantage_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n than_o any_o thing_n that_o he_o can_v likely_o have_v say_v no_o way_n clear_v his_o fact_n from_o schism_n nor_o offer_v the_o least_o colour_n to_o it_o and_o yet_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n reformation_n and_o so_o luther_n reformation_n also_o be_v as_o true_o a_o act_n of_o schism_n from_o rome_n as_o be_v they_o from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n but_o i_o must_v put_v in_o my_o protestation_n of_o dissent_n to_o this_o proposition_n also_o and_o that_o be_v all_o i_o need_v to_o say_v to_o that_o answer_n sect._n 11._o the_o profaneness_n object_v to_o the_o festival_n cast_v out_o the_o creed_n his_o answer_n to_o the_o 4_o consideration_n be_v so_o slight_a and_o therein_o so_o little_a on_o which_o to_o fasten_v any_o reply_n that_o i_o may_v safe_o intrust_v the_o reader_n with_o it_o and_o only_o mind_v the_o diatribist_n 1._o that_o till_o he_o have_v more_o solid_o prove_v the_o observation_n of_o this_o festival_n among_o we_o to_o be_v superstition_n than_o hitherto_o he_o have_v do_v it_o will_v be_v great_a uncharitableness_n thus_o to_o accuse_v it_o and_o great_a injustice_n to_o destroy_v the_o innocent_a for_o this_o if_o it_o be_v true_a yet_o but_o accidental_a and_o removable_a crime_n imagine_v to_o be_v adherent_a to_o it_o and_o 2._o till_o he_o have_v write_v as_o full_a a_o tract_n of_o profaneness_n as_o he_o have_v do_v of_o superstition_n and_o be_v more_o successful_a in_o his_o evidence_n that_o this_o festival_n be_v guilty_a of_o it_o show_v that_o that_o be_v derive_v from_o super_fw-la statutum_fw-la also_o or_o evince_v the_o same_o thing_n by_o some_o more_o sensible_a way_n of_o probation_n it_o be_v but_o a_o pitiful_a beg_n of_o the_o question_n thus_o irrational_o to_o accumulate_v crime_n on_o innocency_n to_o add_v the_o profaneness_n to_o the_o superstition_n to_o suppose_v the_o festival_n able_a to_o work_v miracle_n to_o reconcile_v the_o most_o contrary_a extreme_n as_o if_o in_o the_o vein_n of_o declaim_v he_o shall_v call_v the_o same_o man_n first_o papist_n then_o socinian_n for_o such_o he_o know_v be_v superstition_n and_o profaneness_n in_o stead_n of_o which_o it_o be_v much_o more_o seasonable_a for_o he_o sad_o to_o inquire_v which_o be_v most_o liable_a to_o the_o charge_n of_o profaneness_n the_o set_v apart_o a_o festival_n from_o common_a use_n to_o the_o commemorate_n the_o birth_n of_o christ_n in_o prayer_n praise_n eucharist_n hear_v the_o word_n read_v and_o preach_v and_o profit_v by_o all_o these_o or_o the_o fastidious_a refuse_v to_o join_v with_o the_o church_n of_o god_n in_o all_o or_o any_o of_o these_o office_n at_o that_o time_n follow_v the_o plough_n or_o attend_v the_o shop_n in_o stead_n of_o it_o and_o i_o shall_v with_o the_o same_o seriousness_n desire_v he_o to_o review_v his_o word_n p._n 147._o where_o in_o answer_n to_o my_o mention_n of_o disuse_v the_o creed_n and_o catechism_n he_o say_v in_o a_o parenthesis_n that_o the_o creed_n be_v still_o to_o be_v retain_v in_o and_o with_o the_o catechism_n and_o demand_v whether_o he_o do_v not_o know_v that_o the_o same_o tempest_n that_o carry_v away_o the_o festival_n sweep_v away_o more_o than_o one_o the_o three_o creed_n receive_v from_o the_o ancient_a church_n and_o retain_v in_o our_o liturgy_n and_o together_o with_o they_o the_o church_n