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A66964
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A discourse of the necessity of church-guides, for directing Christians in necessary faith with some annotations on Dr Stillingfleet's answer to N.O. / by R.H.
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R. H., 1609-1678.
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1675
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Wing W3446; ESTC R38733
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§_o 51._o *_o from_o the_o promise_n in_o scripture_n §_o 52._o where_o that_o dr_n st._n hold_v the_o roman_a church_n hitherto_o never_o to_o have_v err_v in_o necessary_n §_o 53._o *_o from_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n austin_n in_o his_o proceed_n against_o the_o donatist_n §_o 54._o and_o of_o the_o greek_a church_n §_o 56._o *_o from_o archbishop_z lawed_n and_o sometime_o dr_n st_n hold_v the_o catholic_n church_n not_o only_o in_o its_o be_v but_o as_o to_o its_o teach_v and_o determination_n infallible_a §_o 57_o dr_n st_n reply_v consider_v *_o concern_v the_o practice_n of_o council_n §_o 64._o etc._n etc._n *_o concern_v the_o certainty_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n without_o infallible_a church-governor_n §_o 63._o *_o concern_v s._n austin_n §_o 71._o *_o that_o the_o argument_n from_o the_o evidence_n of_o our_o sense_n urge_v by_o dr_n st._n and_o other_o disprove_v not_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o roman-catholick_n church_n chap._n v._n no_o supress_v of_o sect_n and_o heresy_n without_o admit_v a_o ecclesiastical_a judge_n that_o all_o sect_n for_o their_o tenant_n equal_o appeal_v to_o the_o clearness_n of_o the_o scripture_n §_o 81._o that_o the_o leave_v all_o man_n for_o know_v necessary_n to_o the_o clearness_n of_o scripture_n therein_o without_o require_v their_o submission_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n can_v afford_v no_o effectual_a remedy_n of_o heresy_n and_o schism_n §_o 83._o that_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n seem_v contrary_a to_o this_o and_o to_o require_v submission_n of_o judgement_n §_o 84._o dr_n st_n reply_v contend_v that_o his_o principle_n no_o way_n justify_v sect_n consider_v §_o 86._o viz_o *_o that_o there_o be_v a_o great_a difference_n between_o the_o church_n of_o england_n separation_n from_o rome_n and_o that_o of_o the_o sect_n from_o she_o §_o 87._o *_o that_o no_o infallibility_n be_v challenge_v by_o she_o in_o respect_n of_o her_o subject_n as_o be_v by_o rome_n §_o 89._o *_o that_o her_o doctrine_n be_v not_o make_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n nor_o any_o exclude_v from_o it_o mere_o because_o not_o be_v in_o her_o communion_n §_o 90._o nor_o any_o immediate_a authority_n challenge_v by_o she_o of_o oblige_v the_o conscience_n of_o men._n §_o 91._o where_o that_o though_o none_o of_o these_o thing_n can_v be_v charge_v on_o she_o by_o the_o sect_n that_o have_v leave_v she_o as_o they_o be_v by_o she_o on_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n leave_v by_o she_o yet_o still_o by_o her_o example_n as_o also_o by_o these_o tenant_n of_o she_o the_o sect_n though_o agree_v with_o she_o in_o these_o may_v think_v themselves_o at_o liberty_n to_o depart_v from_o she_o for_o other_o thing_n wherein_o to_o they_o she_o seem_v faulty_a or_o defective_a as_o she_o for_o this_o cause_n do_v depart_v from_o her_o superior_n he_o reply_v contend_v that_o his_o principle_n afford_v a_o just_a and_o sufficient_a mean_n of_o remedy_v sect_n consider_v §_o 93._o where_o that_o the_o recommend_v of_o humility_n obedience_n and_o a_o due_a submission_n to_o our_o spiritual_a pastor_n and_o the_o not_o usurp_v of_o their_o office_n &c_n &c_n understand_v exclusive_o to_o submission_n of_o private_a man_n judgement_n to_o they_o and_o to_o restraint_n of_o liberty_n of_o opinion_n or_o of_o contradiction_n as_o to_o any_o of_o the_o church_n definition_n and_o doctrine_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n be_v no_o sufficient_a mean_n of_o suppress_v heresy_n and_o sect_n yet_o that_o if_o protestant_n will_v only_o admit_v this_o latter_a of_o not_o contradict_v there_o can_v have_v be_v or_o can_v be_v no_o reformation_n at_o any_o time_n against_o any_o such_o doctrine_n of_o the_o former_a church_n §_o 94._o and_o that_o the_o church_n authority_n of_o make_v rule_n and_o canon_n of_o reform_v any_o abuse_n in_o practice_n or_o error_n in_o doctrine_n of_o inflict_a censure_n upon_o offender_n of_o receive_v into_o and_o exclude_v out_o of_o the_o church_n such_o person_n which_o according_a to_o the_o law_n of_o a_o christian_a society_n be_v to_o be_v take_v in_o or_o shut_v out_o etc._n etc._n if_o not_o extend_v to_o exclude_v dissenter_n from_o her_o doctrine_n and_o definition_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n be_v still_o deficient_a as_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n §_o 100_o etc._n etc._n concern_v the_o consent_n say_v to_o be_v require_v from_o all_o her_o clergy_n by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o her_o article_n of_o religion_n §_o 104._o mr_n chillingworths_n proposal_n in_o this_o matter_n for_o procure_v a_o general_a unity_n in_o communion_n and_o peace_n in_o the_o church_n consider_v §_o 96._o the_o vanity_n and_o uneffectiveness_n of_o it_o as_o to_o the_o end_v aim_v at_o §_o 97._o a_o table_n of_o the_o principal_a content_n of_o the_o annotation_n that_o tradition_n qualify_v with_o the_o other_o motive_n be_v a_o sufficient_o certain_a evidence_n of_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o church_n as_o divine_o assist_v or_o of_o the_o canon_n of_o scripture_n or_o of_o any_o other_o divine_a revelation_n testify_v by_o it_o to_o be_v such_o p._n 85_o 94_o 97._o that_o either_o infallibility_n of_o the_o church_n or_o of_o scripture_n may_v be_v the_o first_o thing_n believe_v from_o tradition_n and_o either_o of_o these_o prove_v from_o the_o other_o as_o either_o be_v first_o know_v p._n 123_o 133_o 169._o the_o expression_n of_o a_o moral_a infallibility_n vindicate_v p._n 94._o and_o that_o as_o moral_a infallibility_n be_v apply_v to_o tradition_n so_o not_o to_o church-infallibility_a as_o divine_o assist_v ib._n that_o a_o assent_n build_v only_o on_o a_o morally-infallible_a evidence_n never_o come_v to_o be_v more_o than_o moral_o infallible_a or_o that_o a_o assent_n never_o rise_v high_a than_o the_o evidence_n p._n 96._o the_o several_a way_n how_o in_o a_o divine_a faith_n a_o infallible_a assent_n be_v say_v to_o be_v yield_v to_o divine_a revelation_n p._n 87._o on_o what_o account_n church-infallibility_a necessary_a notwithstanding_o the_o certainty_n and_o self-evidence_n of_o tradition_n and_o that_o christian_n without_o this_o church-infallibility_a be_v no_o way_n certain_a or_o secure_v as_o to_o several_a necessary_a point_n of_o their_o faith_n because_o not_o so_o clear_o deliver_v or_o manifest_v as_o to_o all_o person_n by_o tradition_n p._n 89_o 93_o 97_o 98_o 125._o that_o all_o necessary_a point_n of_o faith_n be_v not_o clear_a in_o scripture_n to_o all_o capacity_n without_o the_o assistance_n of_o their_o guide_n p._n 98._o 170._o the_o text_n 2_o pet._n 3.16_o consider_v p._n 173._o the_o testimony_n *_o of_o s._n austin_n de_fw-fr doctrina_fw-la christiana_n l._n 2._o c._n 9_o p._n 195._o and_o *_o of_o s._n chrysostome_n in_o 2_o thess_n hom._n 3._o concern_v clearness_n of_o scripture_n consider_v p._n 233._o that_o several_a other_o mean_n of_o understand_a scripture_n void_a not_o the_o direction_n and_o decision_n herein_o of_o church-guide_n where_o either_o the_o other_o mean_n can_v be_v use_v by_o secular_a person_n of_o manual_a employment_n or_o use_v leave_v the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n still_o ambiguous_a to_o mean_a capacity_n and_o that_o the_o more_o certain_a such_o other_o mean_n be_v the_o more_o they_o assure_v we_o of_o the_o church-guide_n their_o not_o err_v herein_o p._n 179._o that_o the_o canon_n of_o council_n do_v clearly_o decide_v some_o necessary_a point_n controvert_v than_o the_o text_n of_o scripture_n and_o so_o effect_v a_o great_a union_n of_o doctrine_n in_o a_o society_n submit_v to_o they_o than_o be_v among_o those_o submit_v only_o to_o scripture_n p._n 133._o that_o positive_a law_n beside_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n be_v from_o the_o beginning_n in_o god_n church_n and_o the_o church-guide_n then_o as_o to_o necessary_n infallible_a p._n 91_o 124._o that_o under_o moses_n law_n the_o people_n be_v enjoin_v submission_n of_o judgement_n to_o the_o decision_n of_o a_o ecclesiastical_a judge_n p._n 113._o that_o from_o private_a man_n when_o use_v a_o right_a endeavour_n the_o argument_n hold_v to_o the_o church-guide_n if_o use_v the_o like_a their_o not_o err_v or_o be_v deceive_v in_o necessary_n but_o be_v not_o extend_v so_o far_o as_o that_o therefore_o they_o be_v infallible_a in_o another_o sense_n also_o viz_o so_o as_o that_o they_o can_v deceive_v other_o in_o mis-teaching_a they_o in_o necessary_n p._n 136._o that_o the_o exercise_n of_o private_a man_n judgement_n in_o all_o thing_n be_v allow_v but_o its_o err_a or_o the_o non-submittance_a of_o it_o to_o another_o where_o due_a not_o therefore_o excuse_v and_o that_o the_o charge_v christian_n to_o beware_v of_o false_a prophet_n seducer_n false_a guide_n etc._n etc._n still_o fix_v they_o more_o close_o to_o the_o true_a p._n 138._o that_o person_n consult_v their_o guide_n concern_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o rule_n
justify_v all_o the_o sect_n which_o have_v or_o shall_v separate_v from_o their_o church_n 7._o prefa_n p._n 7._o which_o n.o._n speak_v not_o of_o their_o justify_v these_o sect_n universal_o in_o whatever_o they_o hold_v or_o do_v or_o what_o be_v practise_v in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n they_o take_v offence_n at_o but_o only_o of_o justify_v the_o liberty_n they_o take_v in_o discede_v in_o their_o opinion_n as_o they_o see_v fit_a from_o the_o doctrine_n and_o principle_n of_o this_o church_n so_o limit_v by_o n.o._n both_o in_o the_o precedent_n and_o follow_a word_n whilst_o these_o late_a man_n also_o tell_v they_o that_o they_o may_v safe_o follow_v their_o own_o judgement_n at_o least_o as_o to_o all_o necessary_n for_o their_o salvation_n wherein_o they_o can_v err_v if_o use_v a_o sincere_a endeavour_n to_o understand_v the_o holy_a scripture_n which_o be_v in_o all_o such_o point_n clear_a in_o answer_n to_o this_o this_o author_n from_o p._n 180._o etc._n etc._n to_o p._n 186._o undertake_v to_o show_v that_o there_o be_v a_o different_a case_n of_o the_o separation_n of_o dissenter_n from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o of_o her_o separation_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n show_v several_a reason_n or_o motive_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n depart_v from_o the_o roman_a church_n which_o the_o sect_n be_v of_o the_o same_o opinion_n in_o they_o have_v not_o of_o depart_v from_o she_o but_o this_o thing_n be_v willing_o grant_v he_o beforehand_o that_o difference_n herein_o he_o may_v show_v many_o that_o no_o way_n concern_v n._n oh_o discourse_n who_o charge_v he_o and_o other_o only_o with_o this_o that_o from_o their_o teach_n that_o none_o do_v owe_v a_o submission_n of_o judgement_n to_o that_o of_o their_o ecclesiastical_a superior_n every_o one_o may_v right_o collect_v that_o he_o may_v follow_v his_o own_o or_o that_o if_o you_o may_v depart_v from_o your_o superior_n person_n or_o council_n upon_o a_o just_a cause_n of_o which_o cause_n you_o say_v it_o be_v all_o reason_n that_o you_o not_o your_o superior_n judge_n then_o so_o may_v they_o from_o you_o upon_o any_o cause_n also_o they_o think_v just_a or_o that_o if_o there_o be_v no_o decisive_a judge_n for_o difference_n between_o you_o and_o your_o superior_n to_o who_o sentence_n you_o can_v be_v oblige_v so_o neither_o be_v there_o for_o difference_n between_o they_o and_o you_o and_o that_o as_o you_o appeal_v from_o your_o ecclesiastical_a superior_n to_o evidence_n of_o scripture_n so_o seem_v to_o you_o in_o your_o cause_n so_o may_v they_o from_o you_o in_o they_o for_o i_o suppose_v here_o the_o dr_n will_v both_o acknowledge_v 1_o some_o council_n to_o be_v superior_a to_o a_o national_a one_o and_o some_o ecclesiastical_a person_n to_o a_o primate_n and_o 2_o that_o these_o ecclesiastical_a superior_n fallible_a when_o proceed_v against_o evidence_n of_o scripture_n may_v be_v therein_o relinquish_v and_o this_o be_v the_o thing_n wherein_o n.o._n affirm_v you_o to_o countenance_n and_o warrant_v the_o proceed_n of_o all_o these_o sect_n §_o 88_o 1._o first_o then_o to_o show_v these_o difference_n he_o say_v p._n 181._o here_o lie_v a_o very_a considerable_a difference_n that_o we_o appeal_v and_o be_v ready_a to_o stand_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n for_o interpret_n the_o letter_n of_o scripture_n in_o any_o difference_n between_o we_o and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n but_o those_o who_o separate_v from_o our_o church_n will_v allow_v nothing_o to_o be_v lawful_a but_o what_o have_v a_o express_a command_n in_o scripture_n to_o which_o i_o say_v that_o this_o difference_n suppose_v or_o grant_v here_o of_o which_o see_v more_o in_o the_o annotation_n 181._o annotation_n on_o p._n 181._o notwithstanding_o he_o will_v be_v find_v still_o to_o justify_v the_o sectarist_n in_o their_o departure_n from_o the_o present_a church_n of_o england_n as_o she_o do_v the_o present_a church_n 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come_v hereby_o to_o any_o strict_a decision_n neither_o will_v the_o presbyterian_o i_o believe_v abandon_v this_o hold_n to_o the_o dr_n and_o his_o irenicum_fw-la perhaps_o will_v help_v they_o to_o maintain_v it_o and_o for_o some_o such_o reason_n it_o may_v be_v that_o he_o here_o in_o compare_v the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o the_o sect_n decline_v the_o direct_a antithesis_fw-la of_o their_o desert_v or_o renounce_v contrary_a to_o her_o own_v or_o adhere_v to_o these_o primitive_a time_n as_o the_o ingenuous_a reader_n may_v observe_v §_o 89_o 2ly_n p._n 182._o he_o say_v the_o guide_n of_o our_o church_n never_o challenge_v any_o infallibility_n to_o themselves_o which_o those_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v he_o shall_v have_v say_v which_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o her_o lawful_a general_n council_n do_v now_o from_o this_o may_v well_o be_v gather_v that_o the_o dissenter_n from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n depart_v in_o their_o judgement_n from_o a_o 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to_o be_v believe_v since_o these_o differ_v in_o the_o sense_n of_o several_a place_n of_o scripture_n from_o this_o church_n and_o so_o as_o to_o these_o may_v depart_v from_o her_o judgement_n §_o 90_o 3ly_n he_o say_v p._n 183._o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n make_v the_o belief_n of_o her_o doctrine_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o nothing_o of_o this_o nature_n can_v be_v object_v against_o the_o church_n of_o england_n by_o dissenter_n that_o exclude_v none_o from_o a_o possibility_n of_o salvation_n mere_o because_o not_o in_o her_o communion_n to_o this_o i_o say_v as_o i_o do_v to_o the_o last_o the_o lesson_n cessary_a the_o church_n of_o england_n make_v the_o belief_n of_o her_o doctrine_n the_o more_o liberty_n still_o the_o sect_n will_v think_v they_o have_v of_o dissent_v from_o they_o but_o change_v here_o the_o dr_n roman_n of_o which_o n._n o._n say_v nothing_o into_o the_o catholic_n church_n head_v by_o her_o general_n council_n she_o free_o tell_v those_o who_o dare_v depart_v from_o she_o that_o there_o be_v no_o salvation_n to_o those_o out_o of_o her_o communion_n and_o that_o their_o conscience_n mispersuaded_n do_v oblige_v indeed_o but_o not_o therefore_o excuse_v they_o and_o this_o cause_v those_o who_o be_v careful_a of_o their_o salvation_n and_o believe_v she_o in_o this_o to_o secure_v themselves_o in_o her_o communion_n §_o 91_o 4ly_n p._n 184._o he_o say_v the_o guide_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n pretend_v to_o a_o immediate_a authority_n of_o oblige_v the_o conscience_n of_o man_n i._n e_fw-la as_o i_o understand_v he_o affirm_v that_o their_o subject_n be_v oblige_v in_o conscience_n to_o yield_v a_o assent_n and_o submission_n of_o judgement_n to_o their_o definition_n and_o decree_n which_o be_v true_a change_v roman_n into_o catholic_n but_o say_v he_o we_o challenge_v no_o more_o than_o teach_v man_n to_o do_v what_o christ_n