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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A61893	A reply unto the letter written to Mr. Henry Stubbe in defense of The history of the Royal Society whereunto is added a Preface against Ecebolius Glanville, and an answer to the letter of Dr. Henry More, containing a reply to the untruthes he hath publish'd, and a censure of the cabbalo-pythagorical philosophy, by him promoted.	Stubbe, Henry, 1632-1676.; Sprat, Thomas, 1635-1713. History of the Royal Society of London.	1671 (1671)	Wing S6063A; ESTC R31961	66,995	80

I had expected all Analogical senses when used by the Fathers and others upon weighty and pious occasions he might have transcribed out of the Censure passages as much to the purpose as that out of Ignatius and I granted the Fathers used it frequently but we must distinguish betwixt the Anagogical and Mystical accommodations of Scripture to pious harangues and the using of it in raillery The Question is Whether it be lawful and fitting to accommodate Scripture-sentences and the sacred phrase to the subjects of common and light discourse such are Amorous Poems or Discourses of Natural Philosophy I instanced in Mr. Cowleys Poems not to injure or upbraid the dead but because he at his decease having repented of such offensive Poems desired the Author of the History to dispunge them in the second Edition which was recommended to his care and since notwithstanding this request of his deceased Friend he thought fitting to continue them I expounded him by himself and fairly instanced in those Passages as the raillery commended by himself and conformable to what the Ancient Poets practised in honour of their Gods and Religion I have no reason to recede from my Censure yet but much greater perswasions then before that I did a necessary work and whatsoever their Malice may create me of Trouble or Inconvenience I never shall repent it The Conclusion of the Letter threatens me with the History of my Life to be written after the manner that Dr. Sprat writ against Sorbier I never pittyed that French man because he had so flattered the R. S. and was himself a Member of it and recorded for such in their History But when a greater Man then this Epistoler made me the like Threat I laugh'd thereat and said That as for my Physiognomy whatsoever it was He made us and not we our selves and that I had observed worse Faces in their Society and for any passage in my life 't is not clogg'd with these Circumstances That I took the Covenant or Engagement or was a Visitor of Oxon or Councellor to Cromwel and his Son I shall not have any Pindarick Ode in the Press dedicated to the happy memory of the most Renowned Prince OLIVER Lord Protector nothing to recommend the sacred Urn of that blessed Spirit to the veneration of Posterity as if His Fame like Men the elder it doth grow Will of it self turn Without what needless Art can do I never compar'd that Regicide to Moses or his son to Joshua When other Mens Flatteries did thus Exorbitate you will find my Resentments for the Church of England to have been of another nature and as I most associated my self with the Episcoparians so in the decpest he at s that engaged me for my Patron 's service I did not decline to give them the Elogy of Judicious and Learned and to plead for their Toleration in these Words To conclude I should here become an Humble suppliant for those of the Episcopal Divines who understanding the Principles of that Church-way which they profess have learned in all conditions to be content and in their Prosperity were neither rash in defining nor forward in persecting soberly-tender consciences It is certain that we owe much to their Learned Defenses of Protestancy against the Papists and several other their Labours and may reap much more benefit thereby if they may have a greater security paying the respect which they ought to their Governors and Praying for them that they may live peaceably under them then at present they enjoy in their walkings I did there in the Preface cast my self at their feet and made my timely Submissions to the Right Reverend Father in God the Lord Bishop of Winton I receiv'd from his Hands a Confirmation in this Church and never joyned with any other in Communion you will never find me in a Presbyterian-Pulpit nor leagued with the Sectaries Whatever was offensive in my Writings I voluntarily abandoned and have done more in publick for the Church and Religion of England without any further intent then the glory of God and welfare of the Nation then others to be Dignitaries and have not onely endeavored to fix others to the Preservation of the Monarchy but some ways signalized my self by Testimonies of particular Loyalty well known to the principal Secretary of State I speak not this to inodiate others I would they had given me happy Presidents for doing so much or been Exemplary that I might perform more But they who perhaps are not so much as confirmed having attempted nothing of this kind multiply discouragements upon me and would depress a Son of the Church because he once followed a different party Is it Thus that they would express their affection to the present Government Is it Thus that they imitate him who would not quench the smooking flax or break the bruised reed Do they envy me the Grace of God or would they have me adde obstinacy to my other faileurs Such procedures do not become 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Divine and I desire God in his Mercy to prevent the Inconveniences which so scandalous and unchristian demeanour may occasion to the Church which must needs suffer in the publick Miscarriages of the Clergy FINIS A REPLY TO A LETTER OF Dr. HENRY MORE printed in Mr. ECEBOLIUS GLANVIL'S Praefatory Answer to HEN. STUBBE with a CENSURE upon the PYTHAGORICO-CABBALISTICAL Philosophy promoted by him WITH A Preface against Ecebolius Glanvil Fellow of the Royal Society and Chaplain to Mr. Rouse of Eaton late Member of the Rump Parlament By Henry Stubbe Physician at Warwick 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 OXFORD Printed for Richard Davis 1671. A PREFACE HAd the presse been so much at my disposall as I could have wished I had not suffered Ecebolius Glanvill to have enjoyed the triumph of a few weeks But since it is impossible to dispatch a particular Answer before the approaching Holy-dayes I must begge pardon of the world for that short respite It will not seem strange that omitting Him I hasten out a reply to Dr H. More for the other is but a Zany to this Pythagorean and the defamations of so ignominious and scandalous an Algerine as Mr Glanvill do not reach so far as the aspersions of his Master which hath some repute for learning and more for integrity though his demeanour be such now that I am necessitated to recant my judgment of him and so not disoblige him by a second Elogy for Piety The Prefatory Answer of Mr. Glanvill is no other then I expected though severall others could not believe it possible that any such Resolve could be taken or suffer'd to be put in execution But though the performance did not beseem a Christian much less a Divine of the Church of England yet I knew it would agree with the genious of a Renegado-presbyter turnd Latitudinarian and that some of the Virtuosi would doe what no Paynim or ancient Philosopher would imagine I had had frequent experience of this truth and had learned by

not so much a holy reverence as a stupid folly They pronounce as in a former instance so on this that no few shall have a part in the world to come who shall spit out when he names God or shall speak the Tetragrammaton in a forreigne tongue out of the Sanctuary There is one thing at the end of your censure which is very unkind and contrary to the law of common humanity I speak of your sharp reflexion on an excellent person deceased Mr. Cowley these younger fancies ought not after death to becomes his reproach especially since he left a charge that what was offensive in his Poems might be omitted though it was judged by others that he had written nothing but what with his own sober correction of himself and an equitable allowance of charity might well pa§ abroad in publique You know that those who weeded out the worst of Beza's youthful verses and presented them in one bundle to the world purchasd more shame to themselves then to the Poet. It is now time that I should put an end to this tedious Letter and I must request that you would excuse my plain dealing do not suspect that upon some account of friendship or acquaintance I am too inclinable to vindicate the Authour of this History I dare assure you I know him not otherwise then by face and Printed books one of which is against Sorbiere whom though a piece of a Virtuoso he handles very smartly examining the condition of his life and actions What apprehensions then might you have least if he should happen to have nothing else to doe be should write the History of your life and herein as is usuall describe your person and enquire into Physiognomy what temper of mind you must profess and give a Catalogue of Books written by you and shew in how many press-warrs you have served as a volunteer But now that I have done I have time to think what a deal of needless labour I have bestowed to write more then what you will have patience to read I therefore take leave and am your c. FINIS A Defence of the Censure of the History of the Royal Society against the Reply of the Virtuosi AFter so many Moneths respite so much deliberation in a case nearly relating to the welfare of the Religion and good Learning of this Monarchy and even of the Government it self I expected at least from the Virtuosi something of Wit and Solidity in their Reply I knew the justice of my side too well and the grounds I proceeded upon to fear it might be worsted but I thought it no unreasonable matter to promise my self florid Language and a plausible though not satisfactory Apology But though an entire Cabala of the R. S. did consult upon this responsory Letter though a Learned Person of that Society did peruse it yet can I find nothing in it that should have deserved my serious Animadversions except the quality of those Persons who revised and allowed it and 't is my respect to their dignity that I put once more Pen to Paper about this subject 'T is out of a regard to their quality not performances and I more suspected they would interpret my silence as a contempt then my answer as arrogant It had been more prudential for them not to have entermedled a second time in this Contest but to have enjoyed the benefit of that distinction which I made betwixt the Honorary Members of the R. S. and the Comediants then to mix with so insipid a Generation whose thoughts are not to be elevated by indignation and whom Learning it self should it change Parties could not rescue or protect I must renew those Protestations which their Ignorance hath made me so frequently to use and avow that 't is a troublesome affair to deal with Men that understand so little they know neither how to state a Case nor how to oppose or answer pertinently I am affronted with naked Assertions of Men that deserve no credit my Conclusions are denyed and the premises not invalidated and to convince the World how little I injure them herein I Reprint the first Censure upon their History their Defense and my present Rejoynder The Anonymous Author of the Letter begins with an Admiration that I should have so mighty a Zeal for any one Religion and why against Popery But that I know weak Persons are surprised at small Occurrents and that their astonishment doth not proportion it self to the greatness of the cause but the deficiencies of their Intellectuals I profess it would trouble me that having lived a life hitherto as the Age goes not very culpable and having always professed my self of the Reformed Religion and having united my self to the Church of England upon its restauration preserving always before that a non-communion with the several Schismaticks and Sects of this Nation that it should still be wondered at why I should be concern'd for any Religion or engage in opposition to Popery But this surmise argues onely the vanity and folly of the Objectors for were it in general indifferent unto me what Religion were National amongst us yet considering our Circumstances and that dismal Revolution which impends over my native Country upon the restitution of that Religion a Man who is concern'd for his own repose and tranquility and desires not to be involved in the Calamities of a Change can not want prudential Motives to induce him to oppose such an Alteration Any Man that hath but reflected seriously upon the Consequences which have attended the Change of Religion especially into Popery any Man who is not unacquainted with our English Histories or ignorant of the Politick Cautions which wise States-men have left unto us upon Record will justifie my demeanour without further inspecting into my Conscience But to allow these Men of no reading or consideration to allow them as ignorant of these things as of the Sweating Sickness why should they wonder at my being concern'd against Popery since I had united my self to the Church of England Is there any thing more repugnant to our Liturgy Articles of Religion and Homilies of our Church Was there ever any action of my life could give them ground for this Conjecture that I would openly adhere to any thing and avow my doing so and yet desert it rashly I do not use to deliberate after Resolutions taken whatever I do before It had better become those of the R. S. who are under many Obligations to confront the Romish Religion to have acted my part in this Contest then to malign discourage and disparage me for a work which the Apostle would have congratulated me for though I had attempted it meerly out of envy strife or pretence Beyond this Reply I know not what to answer unto this Passage because I have to do with Adversaries with whom Protestations Appeals to God and Conscience are ridiculous and more insignificant then a sobriety of life taken up neither out of

affectation nor design of gain or honor The next Period relates an History of what passed betwixt me and a Dominican Provincial and Inquisitor about my removal from Jamaica to Mexico and Peru. I shall not deny the general Truth of the Narration but since the alteration of a Word or two may vary much the odium or truth of a Story I must remind this Adversary that the person I design'd to accompany but was hindred with Sickness was a Carmelite not a Dominican and that he never so much as proposed to me the change of my Religion the strictness of the Spaniards there not being such as in Europe and I did upon particular Inquiry from some that had been there receive assurances That Physicians Chirurgions and Gunners were so necessary there and so welcome that a prudent Person of those qualifications needed not to apprehend the danger of any Inquisitor indeed the power of that sort of men is not the same within the Patrimony of the King of Spain so those Territories are called and in the Patrimony of S. Peter Had I as the Virtuosi and others do propos'd a Voyage to Spain or Italy doth it infer a design of changing my Religion yet in all this Story as it is represented by themselves there is no more said by me then would have been convincing in those other cases were the Argument good Oh! that a Cabinet of the Virtuosi should reason thus pittifully Surely Ignorance is infectious and 't is possible for Men to grow Fools by contact That which follows hereupon is so ridiculous that were my Dreams but so incoherent and impertinent I would apprehend some eminent Distraction and cause my self to be let Blood and I advise my Adversaries speedily to transfer themselves from Arundel house to Bedlam or convert the Appartments which they enjoy now into convenient Receptacles for such Franticks Should I grant the truth of the Story with all the advantages they could wish to have been added thereunto doth it follow that because I might intend to change my Religion at Mexico that therefore I would alter it in England considering the posture of our Nation not at all but with such as the Virtuosi those prudent Persons that understand Men and reasons of State so well Nor are they more imprudent in that suggestion That my quarrel to the R. S. was so unappeasable that I would fall out with any Religion which they favored and that if they had of each kinde amongst them I would entertain no sort at all I say this Suggestion becomes not intelligent Persons for how great soever my Quarrel were against them 't is to be supposed I would prosecute it by befitting means and such as were subservient to my ends but to fall out with any Religion they should favor if it were not untrue destructive to the Monarchy Laws and Nation were to defeat and overthrow my intentions and consequently such a procedure was not to be fixed on me except they had first proved that I was a Member of the R. S. I adde that if my animosity against them had transported me so far as they represent if I were resolute to oppose whatsoever Religion any of theirs held I must consequently renounce Atheism and all irreligion those being as 't is to be fear'd the important qualifications of some of the Comediants and assert Protestancy that being the Religion from which many of them are averse and for which as it is established in the Church of England others are not over-zealously concern'd That which ensues hereupon is very dull and flat the course how to attacque and overthrow these Ignorants was not to be prescribed unto me by them and methinks 't is great Impudence in them after that I have published these other Pieces besides the Censure to upbraid me as if they were not extant and whatever relates to their Experiments their vanity and falshood and Plagiarisme were still un-printed It was not my design to give precedence to the Censure but they having procured a stop upon the promulgation of the other Books I inverted the Method making them odious first and then ridiculous But if I had done it voluntarily am I to be blamed for preferring the advancement or continuance of Protestancy before that of Natural Philosophy though the last were better improved then these Comical Wits can ever attempt I think that Reverend Divine of Canterbury merits our good esteem for his generous respects to deceased Aristotle however his Age and different Studies incapacitated him to carry on the Quarrel so far as to over-throw totally these Innovators Yet since it was not my intent to defend the truth but the utility of the Aristotelian Physiology I shall not suffer my self to be engaged beyond my first thoughts or permit that the Original and Primary Controversies sink into oblivion by any excursions and digressive Contests My Adversaries confess That a Church-man in England suffers more for being Popishly affected then for being a favourer of the New Philosophy It is my judgement therefore that they ought to be very sollicitous how they incur any such scandal and endeavour timely to remove it I am not conscious to my self at all of having mis-represented the Words of the Historian or having imposed on him other sense then the Words will or do bear I now come to consider what the History is unto the Virtuosi and how far I may conceive them interested in its Tenets My Adversaries say That the History was not Licensed by the President of the Royal Society for then a Man might have charged every impious and pernicious Paragraph upon that large body of Men but so it is that it comes abroad into the World with an Imprimatur from Secretary Morrice of whom we cannot perswade the People to believe otherwise but that he stands two or three removes off from Popery If that the R. S. had made an authentick Declaration of this Point it had been material but the profession of a nameless Pamphlet concludes not the Body When Olaus Borrichius was at London and familiarly conversed with the generality of the Virtuosi even the most eminent of the number the Intelligence which that inquisitive Person gives to Bartholinus is thus expressed Sociorum nemo posthac quicquam in lucem emittet nisi prius communi suffragio approbatum ne aliorum praesertim vitilitigatorum ungues reformidet This Letter bears date 1663. Aug. 10. Londini and contains that account of the R. S. which he was from their own mouthes to communicate unto Foreigners and in confidence of this promise of theirs which is divulged every where in Germany certain Foreigners of great Learning have expostulated with me for avowing and proving them to be so negligent But since my Adversaries will here allow no other Book to be Entitled unto the R. S. but what is Licensed by their President I will digress a little to shew their failure even where the Authentick Brouncker P.R.S. is prefixed