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A34705 The Deposition of Mr. William Carstares when he was examined before the Lords of secret committee, given in by him and renewed upon oath upon the 22 of December 1684, in presence of the Lords of His Majesty's Privy-Council Carstares, William, 1649-1715.; England and Wales. Privy Council. 1684 (1684) Wing C648; ESTC R6127 4,493 6

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Duke but cannot be positive whether he named them or not To which the Deponent said that 's work for our wild People in Scotland my Conscience does not serve me for such things after which the Deponent had never any particular discourse with Ferguson as to that matter but as to the other Affair Ferguson told the Deponent that he was doing what he could to get it effectuate as particularly that he spoke to one Major Wildman who is not of the Deponent his acquaintance Ferguson blamed always Sidney as driving designs of his own The Deponent met twice or thrice with the Lord Melvil Sir John Cochran Jerviswood Commissar Monro the two Cessnocks Montgomery of Langshaw and one Mr. Veatch where they discoursed of Money to be sent to Argyle in order to the carrying on the Affair and tho he cannot be positive the Affair was named yet it was understood by himself and as he conceives by all present to be for rising in Arms for rectifying the Government Commissary Monro Lord Melvil and the two Cessnocks were against medling with the English because they judged them men that would talk and would not do but were more inclined to do something by themselves if it could be done The Lord Melvil thought every thing hazardous and therefore the Deponent cannot say he was positive in any thing but was most inclined to have the Duke of Monmouth to head them in Scotland of which no particular method was laid down Jerviswood the Deponent and Mr. Veatch were for taking the Money at one of these Meetings it was resolved that Mr. Martin late Clerk of the Justice Court should be sent to Scotland to desire their Friends to hinder the Country from Rising or taking rash Resolutions upon the account of the Council till they should see how matters went in England The said Martin did go at the Charges of the Gentlemen of the Meeting and was directed to the Laird of Polwart and Torwoodlie who sent back word that it would not be found so easie a matter to get the Gentrie of Scotland to concur But afterwards in a Letter to Commissar Monro Polwart wrote that the Countrey was readier to concur than they had imagined or something to that purpose The Deponent as above-said having brought over a Key from Holland to serve himself and Major Holms he remembers not that ever he had an exact Copy of it but that sometimes the one sometimes the other keeped it and so it chanced to be in his custody when a Letter from the Earl of Argile came to Major Holms intimating that he would join with the Duke of Monmouth and follow his Measures or obey his Directions this Mr. Veatch thought fit to communicate to the Duke of Monmouth and for the Understanding of it was brought to the Deponent and he gave the Key to Mr. Veatch who as the Deponent was informed was to give it and the Letter to Mr. Ferguson and he to shew it to the Duke of Manmouth but what was done in it the Deponent knows not The Deponent heard the Design of Killing the King and Duke from Mr. Shepard who told the Deponent some were full upon it The Deponent heard that Aaron Smith was sent by those in England to call Sir John Cochran on the account of Carolina but that he does not know Aaron Smith nor any more of that matter not being concerned in it Shepard named young Hamden frequently as concerned in these Matters Signed at Edinburgh Castle the 8th of September 1684. and renewed the 18th of the same Moneth William Carstares PERTH CANCELL I. P. D. Edinburgh Castle September 18. 1684. MR. William Carstares being again Examined adheres to his former Deposition in all the parts of it and Depones he knows of no Correspondence betwixt Scotland and England except by Martin before-named for those Gentlemen to whom he was sent were left to follow their own Methods Veatch as the Deponent remembers stayed sometimes at Nicolson Stablers House at London-Wall sometimes with one Widow Hardcastle in Morefields The Deponent did Communicate the Design on Foot to Doctor Owen Mr. Gr●ffil and Mr. Meed at Stepney who all concurred in the promoting of it and were desirous it should take effect and to one Mr. Freth in the Temple Councellor at Law who said he would see what he could do in reference to the Money but there having gone a Report that there was no Money to be raised he did nothing in it nor does the Deponent think him any more concerned in the Affair Nelthrop frequently spoke to the Deponent of the Money to be sent to Argile whether it was got or not but the Deponent used no freedom with him in the Affair Goodenough did insinuate once that the Lords were not inclined to the thing and that before they would see what they could do in the City The Deponent saw Mr. Ferguson and Mr. Rumsay lurking after the Plot broke out before the Proclamation having gone to Ferguson in the back of Bishop gate-street at some new Building whether he was directed by Jerviswood who was desirous to know how things went Rumsay was not of the Deponent his acquaintance before but they knew as little of the matter as the Deponent This is what the Deponent remembers and if any thing come to his Memory he is to deliver it in betwixt and the first of October And this is the Truth as he shall Answer to God William Carstares PERTH CANCELL I. P. D. At Edinburgh the 22 of December 1684. THese fore-going four Pages Subscribed by Mr. William Carstares Deponent and by the Lord Chancellor were acknowledged on Oath by the said Mr. William Carstares to be his true Depositions and that the Subscriptions were his in presence of us Underscribers William Carstares David Falconer George Mekenzie PERTH CANCELLARIUS QUENSBERRY.ATHOL Edinburgh Printed by the Heir of Andrew Anderson Printer to His most Sacred Majesty And Reprinted at London by Tho. Newcomb for Susanna Forester in Kings-street Westminster 1684.