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A41594 A discourse of the use of images in relation to the Church of England and the Church of Rome in vindication of Nubes testium against a pamphlet entitled The antiquity of the Protestant religion concerning images, directed against some leaves of that collection. Gother, John, d. 1704. 1687 (1687) Wing G1328; ESTC R15744 20,616 40

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A DISCOURSE OF THE Use of Images In Relation to the Church of England AND THE Church of Rome In Vindication of NUBES TESTIUM Against a Pamphlet Entitled The Antiquity of the Protestant Religion concerning Images directed against some Leaves of that Collection Publisht with Allowance LONDON Printed by Henry Hills Printer to the King 's Most Excellent Majesty for His Houshold and Chappel 1687. A Discourse of the Use of Images In relation to the Church of England and the Church of Rome In Vindication of NUBES TESTIUM THE Factious and Unchristian Temper of our Age has so unhappily spread it self thro' all Ranks of Men that even those whose business ought to be the Advancement of Piety have not escap'd it 's malignant Influence And this they evidence too clearly to the world whilst They shew themselves so industrious in multiplying the number of many needless Contentions in the Church instead of endeavouring to lessen and abate them This is the Misfortune of him who undertakes to assert the Antiquity of the Protestant Religion concerning Images in Answer to a Dozen Leaves of Nubes Testium Who because he is a Profess'd and Virulent Enemy to Catholics seems resolv'd to contradict and Ridicule in a strain of Drollery more becoming the Stage than his Coat every thing they Believe and Teach tho' it be the very Doctrin of his own Church And like a Blind Combatant strikes at all before him without distinction of Friend and Enemy with a Have at all At this Game plays this Undertaker whose only care being to write an Answer in FULL Answers and Condemns even those Practices as are allow'd and approv'd by his own Church and in this new Method of Controversie spends the greatest part of his Twelve-penny Pamphlet So that tho' he pretends to be a Son of the Church of England yet whosoever considers how often he strikes that Church in the Face must needs question the Legitimation and necessarily conclude that 't is Uncertain What Church he is of whilst the only thing Certain is That he is No Papist This whole matter as to his needless multiplying of Controversies and opposing the Doctrin and Practice of the Church of England as well as that of the Church of Rome I 'll shew briefly in declaring what the Church of Rome and England teach concerning 1. The Historical Use of Sacred Images 2. The Commemorative Use of Images 3. The Respect and Honor due to Images In all which if it be made appear that the Two Churches agree there will need but little more to prove This Answerer a Trisler whilst he so laboriously sets himself against both and at the end of all says nothing to the purpose 1. As to the Historical Vse of Images 't is the Profess'd Doctrin and Practice of the Church of Rome to have the Pictures and Images of Holy Things and Passages both in Houses and Churches for the instruction of the Ignorant in the knowledge of the History of both the Old and New Testament that so they may be acquainted with those Sacred Persons of Patriarchs Prophets and Apostles and be inform'd of the Wonderful Works wrought by God in Mans Creation and Redemption This appears in the Council of Trent Sess 25 and in the Catechism ad Parochos part 3. de Invoc Sanc. par 40. Both which agree that Holy Pictures and Images are made to inform the People of the History of Holy Writ and that for this end they are set up in Churches and other Places This same Historical Vse of Holy Images is conform likewise to the Doctrin and Practice of the Church of England as is evident in Mr. Montagu's Appeal to Caesar who declaring the Church of England's Own Proper True and Antient Tenets Ep. Ded. to the King such as be without any doubt or question Legitimate and Genuine such as she will both acknowledge and maintain for her own in this Book Authoris'd and Publish'd by Express order of King James and Charles l. and approv'd as containing nothing in it but what was agreeable to the Doctrin and Discipline establish'd in the Church of England Ib. says expresly c. 20. that Images were improv'd unto an Historical Vse in St. Gregory 's time and then adds Had the Church of Rome gon no farther in Practice or Precept than that which St. Gregory recommends our Church says he I suppose for so our Doctrin is would not blame them nor have departed from them about that Point And agen chap. 23. Doth the English Church condemn the Historical or Civil use of Images It do's not says he in Practice all the World knows that nor yet in Precept or Doctrin that I know And at the end of the same Chapter he says Images may be had and made ut Ornatui sint ut Memoriae ut Historiae For Ornament for Commemoration and for History and that they may be made for such Ends No Law of God forbiddeth says our Gamaliel pa. 203. ad Apol. Bel. From whose words in a Book so Authentic and approv'd by Two Kings Heads of the Church 't is beyond question that the Historical Vse of Images is agreeable to the Doctrin and Practice of the Church of England And this do's most Evidently appear to any that will but put his head into any Church of this Communion where presently Moyses and Aaron shew themselves to the Beholder and let him know the concern they had in Those Commandements which they there guard betwixt them This may be seen with great advantage in the Church at the Savoy where besides these Two Saints of the Jewish Law the Four Evangelists have their place in full proportion between the side Windows with St. Peter and St. Stephen and the Twelve Apostles in twelve Niches on the Front of the Gallery But above all the New Church in St. James's in the Fields commends this Practice in a Rare Piece of Workmanship where the hand of the Artist has set forth to the Life upon the Font the History of Original Sin and it's Cure in the Water of Baptism Adam and Eve stand beneath Confessing the guilt of that Sin for which Infants are brought thither to be cleans'd Round the Bason is seen Christ under the hand of the Baptist in Jordan authorising the Institution of that Salutary Laver And over it is an Angel as it were descending to move the Waters and to signifie that the efficacy of that Sacrament is from above Then if you turn towards the Altar in one Figure is represented the Institution of the Blessed Sacrament at the Last Supper The very same which is over the Altar at his Majesties Chappel at Whitehal and for the very same intent viz. A Pellican feeding her Young ones with her Blood to signifie what Christ gives to the Faithful his Children in the Sacrament that he feeds them with his Blood. Much more may be seen in Cathedral and Collegiate Churches of this kind not only in relation to the Old but New Testament even