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A12485	The prudentiall ballance of religion wherin the Catholike and protestant religion are weighed together with the weights of prudence, and right reason. The first part, in which the foresaide religions are weighed together with the weights of prudence and right reason accordinge to their first founders in our Englishe nation, S. Austin and Mar. Luther. And the Catholike religion euidently deduced through all our kings and archbishopps of Canterburie from S. Austin to our time, and the valour and vertue of our kings, and the great learninge and sanctitie of our archbishopps, together with diuers saints and miracles which in their times proued the Catholike faith; so sett downe as it may seeme also an abridgement of our ecclesiasticall histories. With a table of the bookes and chapters conteyned in this volume.; Prudentiall ballance of religion. Part 1	Smith, Richard, 1566-1655.	1609 (1609)	STC 22813; ESTC S117627	322,579	664

Catholick writers such as f Camb. pa. 80 627. 628. de Baron Protestants them selues account most excellent learned and great Historiographers by Protestāt Antiquaries such as g D. Bucley 8. Reas art vlt. p. 175. of Camb. Protestant Diuines terme excellent Antiquaries and excellent men And on the other side denied by no one ancient writer Greeke or Latin foraine or domestical Catholick or other And what better proofe will wee require to beleeue a thing done so long agoe than the assertion of men so many learned of such different ages of such different contries of such different religion who haue not ben gainsaid by any one ancient writer To argue against such varietie grauitie of testimonies without any anciēt writers testimony to the cōtrary is indeed rather to cauill which is no maistery to doe against such anciēt facts than to reason to shew a minde more auerted from S. Peter and his Successors than desirous of truth or honor of his Contrie 2. This faith thus planted amongst the Britons by the Apostles and Apostolick men perished not after their departure but remained as Gildas c. 7. writeth apud quosdam integrè amongst some entire and about the yeare of our Lord 158. was meruaillously increased and cōfirmed by meanes of Pope Eleutherius who sending hither at the request of Lucius then King of the Britons his two Legats S. Fugatius and S. Damian the King Queene and almost all the people were baptized and this Land was the first that publickly professed the faith of Christ and iustly deserued the title of Primogenita Ecclesiae For testimony of this we can produce not onely such variety and weight of witnesses as for the former to wit a English Beda l 1. c. 4. Malmes in fast Ethelvverd l. 1. Hunting li. 1. Florent an 184. VVestm an 185 Sander lib de schis ●eland in Bale p. 23. VVelch Ga●fred l. 4. c 19. Nannius hist Land●ffen K●ng Arthur Foraine Damasus in Pont Ado. Marian in Chron. Platina in Eleuther Geneb Martin Polon Ponticus Virun Polidor Boethius l. 5. hist Baron mart Rom. 26. Maij. Protestāts Bale cen 1. c. 22. 28. 29 Camb. in Brit p. 51. 628. Stovv anno 179 Holins p. 74. Caius l. 1. de ant Godvvin in S. Austin Bilson of obedience p. 57. Cooper an 180. Fox l. 1. p. 51. l. 2. p. 106. 107. D. Sutclif ansvver to 3. Conuers c. 2. Latin English domestical strangers Catholick and Protestāts but euen all our English histories and in a maner all foraine writers which intreate of these tymes And finally the letters patents of King Arthur alleaged by D. Caius a Protestant lib. 1. de Antiq. Cantab. where he saith that all know this to be true and Godwin in the life of S. Paulin addeth that it cannot be denyed Wherby we may see the impudēcy of a Minister who is not ashamed without all testimony to the contrary to deny this Conuersion of Britany by the Popes meanes and to say that no authenticall author auoucheth it but that it is a fable and seemeth to be deuised by some fauourers of the Church of Rome Which here in the beginning I note to aduertise the indifferent Reader that he giue no beleefe to such impudent fellowes deniall without any sufficient witnesse 3. The Christian faith thus receaued the Britons kept not onely sound Gildas de oxcid c. 7. Bed l. 1. c. 4 and vndefiled from heresies a long tyme but quiet also from troubles and persecutions vntil the reign of Diocletian the Emperor Gildas c. 7. Bed l. 1. c. 6 who began in the yeare of our Lord 286. for ten yeares space raised a more cruel persecution against the Christians than euer had ben before which passing into this Iland honored it with the glorie of many holy Martyrs Gildas c. 8. who constantly stood and died in the confession of their faith Of whome cheefly are named Saint Alban whose miracles and martyrdom are largly set downe by S. Beda lib. 1. c. 7. and Iulius and Aaron This storme of persecution being ouerblown Constantin the Great a Briton borne receaued the Christian faith exalted it in the whole Empire of Rome In whose tyme arose the Arian heresie which running through the world corrupted also this Iland and shortly after all manner of heresies flowed in Heresies enter into England was there receaued of the inhabitants being men as saith S. Gildas their Countryman euer delighted to heare new things and stedfastly retainning nothing certain And for these heresies and other vices were the Britons plagued by God with extreme famin wonderful pestilence in so much as the quick were not sufficient to bury the dead and with most cruel blooddy warre of the Picts and Scotts as yow may read in Gildas and in Beda lib. 1. c. 12. 14. But for the accomplishmēt of their iniquities after all this they admitted the Pelagian heresie Heresie bane of a Country which hastned their desolation and almost vtter destruction brought sone after vpon them by the Saxons or English For as S. Beda saith lib. 1. c. 17. a few yeares before the cōming of the Saxons into this Land which saith he lib. 1. c. 15. was in the yeare of our Lord 429. the Pelagian heresies were brought in See S. Bed l. 1. c. 17. seq But of this heresie the Land was after rid by the disputation and miracles first of S. German and Lupus sent by Pope Celestinus anno 429. after by the same S. German and Seuerus anno 435. ex Baronio 4. After this tyme in this place the faith long tyme saith S. Beda lib. 1. c. 21. remained sound and vndefiled But at last in all or most of the Britons it was corrupted by an erroneous opinion about the tyme of keeping Easter The Britōs error about Easter far differēt from the Quartadecimās See Euseb 5. hist c 24. 25. Austin ser 29 Epiph haer 50. Theod li. 3. de haeres which was not as Beda well quoteth lib. 3. c. 4. the error of the Iewes or Quartadeciman hereticks For the Quartadecimans alwayes kept their Easter on one set day of the moone to wit on the 15. day after the equinoctial and regarded no set day of the weeke The Britons contrary wise celebrated their Easter alwayes on one set day in the weeke to wit on Sonday as Catholicks doe and obserued not any set day of the moone VVherin the Britōs erred touching Easter as the Quartadecimans did The onely differēce betwene them Catholicks was that wheras Catholicks according to the appointemēt of the Cōncel of Nice kept their Easter on the Sōday from the 15. day of the moone to the 21. the Britons kept it on the Sonday from the 14. of the moone to the 20. and so they both included one whole day within the cōpas of celebrating Easter to wit the 14. day of the moone which neither Iew nor Christian els included and

by the Puritans who professe to be the pure Caluinists And for continuance of Luthers doctrine himself had so small hope therof as he could not forbeare words of despaire For in 3. Galat. fol. 154. I feare saith he the proper true vse of the law wil be after our time troden vnder foote vtterly abolished by the enemies of the truth For euen now whiles we are yet liuing and employ all diligence to set forth the office and vse both of the law and the Gospel ther be very few yea euen among those that wil be accounted Christians make a profession of the Gospel with vs Luther forseeth that he shal be forsaken that vnderstād these things rightly VVhat think yee then shall come to passe when vve are dead gon And fol. 201. VVhich thing that Protestants should not acknowledg Luther for ther Pastor shall one day come to passe if not vvhilst vve liue yet vvhen vve are dead and gon Sectaries vvhen vve be dead shall possesse those Churches which we haue won and planted by our Ministerie So Engl. Minister And the like small hope our English Ministers haue of the continuance of their religiō as appeareth by the Declarat of Disciplin printed at Geneua 1580. I am afrayd saith that Author lest God be come into England as into some Castle in the way of his progresse for a small time Caluin in his preface before his Cathechisme did so despaire of posteritie of successiō in his religiō as saith he And Caluin I dare scarce think therof Their cōsciences telling them all that their doctrin is not built vpō that rock on which Christ built his Church and Doctrine but vpon the sandes of their human inuentions Libri Secundi Finis THE THIRD BOOKE IN VVHICH S. Austin and Luther and their doctrins are weighed together according to their qualities Set dovvne and proued in the tvvo former bookes PREFACE HItherto Gentle reader haue we shewed out of authenticall and sufficient witnesses that S Austin and Mar. Luther were the first Founders of the Romā Catholick and Protestant religion in our English Nation and we haue put each of them with his qualities in his seuerall scale Novv it remaineth that vvith an euen hand vve lift vp the Ballance and vveighing them together iudg according to those qualities and enduements vvhich naturall reason and true prudence teach vs ought to be in a first Preacher and founder of Gods religion in a Nation whither is more likly to come from God bring his religion vvhither the contrarie CHAP. I. S. Austin and Luther weighed according to their learning How great a help learning is to discouer errors and to finde out truth and contrarie wise how great a hinderance ignorance is to attaine to truth and an ayde to lyes as a thing euident by it selfe neede no proofe Herevpō it hath bene vsual to the Sectmaisters of all times as they are the beginners of new doctrins vnknowne to their Ancestors so to impute to them ignonorāce and to arrogat to them selues especiall knowledg and learning by help wherof forsooth ●hey could discouer that truth which for ignorāce their Forfathers could not finde out It was saith S. Bernard serm 65. in Cant. alwaies the trick of Hereticks to boast of singularitie of knowledg Thus the Donatists accused the rest of the world of ignorance At whome S. Austin lib. 1. cont Gaudent cap. 19. iesteth thus O dolor fraudata sunt tali magisterio tempora antiqua O sorrow that the ancient times wanted such Maisters And when the Pelagians in like sort condemned the ancient Fathers of ignorance he exclamed lib. 2. cont Iulian. cap. 10. in these words And darest thou call those blind And hath long days so confounded the highest with the lowest and shall darknes be so accounted light and light darknes that Iulian Pelagius Celestius shall see and Hilarie Ambr. Greg. be blind Yea in the time of Tertullian in the primitiue Church ther were hereticks who doubted not to impute ignorance to the Apostles them selues whome Tertul. l. de praescript refuteth thus what man well in his witts can thinck that they were ignorant of any thing whome our Lord gaue for teachers had alwaies in his company to whome he expounded aparte all obscure matters And when they bragged of their new light he merilie iesteth at them thus To these alone to these first was the truth reuealed Forsoth they obtained greater sauor and fuller grace of the Diuel And how vsuall it is with Luther and Protestants to boast of their especiall knowledg new light to impute blindnes ignorance and errors to the former ages and ancient Fathers no mā that either conuerseth with them or readeth their bookes can be ignorāt Audemus c. saith Luther wee dare glorie that Christ was first published of vs VVigand l. de Bonis Malis Germ. ascribeth to Luther such a lightening of the Articles of faith as was not known in the world since the Apostles tyme Neander lib. 8 explicat orbis te●●a Fox p 416. edit 1563. Iuel Apolog Others cal him the mouth of Christ Chariot of Israel Finally some prefer him before all the Apostles but Paul as Cyriacus Spangenbergius who wil iustifie these verses Christus habet primas habeas tibi ●aule secundas At loca post illos proxima Luther habet Let Christ be fi●st and after him S. Paul be best But next to the Luth. deserus to go befor the rest And as Luther challengeth more light learning than the ancient Fathers so Zuinglius challengeth more light than he and Caluin than they both And in England the Protestāts of King Edwards time challenged more light than those of King Henries those of Queene Elizabeth more than they both and the Puritans challeng more light than the Protestant the Brownists than the Puritan till at last as his maiesty sayde of the Scottish Ministers they run madd with their light Confer at Hampt Court or r●ther turn all into darknes of infidelitie Atheisme as dayly experiēce sheweth Wherfore to see whither indeede Luther were like to be better learned thā S Austin Let vs compare them together according to that which hath bene tould of them S. Austin was an Italian Luther a Duch man See all these points proued befor l. 1. c. 4. l 2. c. 7. S. Austin studied in Rome when ther was there a famous Vniuersitie Luther in Wi●tēberg places of no fame S. Austins Maister was S. Gregorie one of the fower Doctors of the Church Luthers Maister was a nameles fellow and for Protestancy he had no Maister at all vnles yow will reckon his black Maister S. Austin is not known to haue had any corporall impediment of studie Luther is known to haue had so great a one as he could scarce read three leaues together S. Austin had testimonie of S. Gregory that he wa● repletus scientia scriptuarum full of the knowledg of scripture

miracles For besides the testimony of the word of God which testified the miracles which we reade in scripture what wāt they to be accounted true miracles that any other miracles had The Deedes were supernaturall The effect of them was supernaturall diuine vz the conuersion of Infidells The meanes of doing them holy to wit prayer to God The doers of them were Saints The testimonie of these Deedes are of many eye witnesses freinds and foes learned vnlearned holy and Wicked forrein and domesticall and cōfessed of diuers which refuse S. Austins religion Than the which greater testimonie for miracles can not be required vnles we would haue God to speake from heauen And on the other side what prudent man is he that wil not iudg Luthers wonderments to be friuolous The things reported o him were naturall The testimonies for them are nether of eyewitnesses nor of enemies nor of Saints nor of great learned men nor are they confessed of any who refuse Luthers doctrine Yea they are denied by such as were both freinds and great scollers of Luthers Whie then should we beleeue them Nay whie should we not deny them CHAP. IX S. Austin and Luther weighed according to the Succession or continuance of their doctrine TRuly said Gamaliel Acts. 5. of the Christian religion then preached by the Apostles Si ex hominibus est consilium hoc aut opus dissoluetur Si vero ex Deo est nō poteritis dissoluere And in like sorte of hereticks said S. Paul 2. Timoth 3. Vltro non proficient And S. Austin in ps 57. compareth the Catholik faith to a Riuer which hauing a continuall spring euer floweth neuer waxeth drie heresie to a brooke rising vp on raine which while the raine falleth runneth boisterously and they who know not that it wāteth a springe would iudg that it would last lōger than the quiet riuer See this proued l. 1. c. 14. seq ad fin l. 2. c. 1● but as soone as it leaueth raining they see the water gon the brooke dryed Wherfor let vs see whither S. Aust or Luthers doctrin hath cōtinewed longer in Engl. in their followers or rather we haue seene it alredy For. S. Aust hath had 69. successors in his Archbishoprick successiuly all of the same religion with him 53. kings of Englād besides diuers others as is before declared that when the Crown kingdome was twise violently taken from the Englishe-men by Danes Normans yet his faith was not taken from his successors Nor by so many so long desolations of the Danes many seuere lawes first by King Henrie 8. and then by Queene Elizabeth and so manie bitter torments hard banishmēts streight confinments deep Dongeons could Iorns great ●ines Taxes and paymēts bluddy deaths could it be rooted these thousand yeares oute of this land but that this day God be thancked S. Aust there are both noble ignoble clerks seculer religious men weemē Children who not withstanding all lawes threats dangers will professe to hould the faith of their Apostle S Aust to agree with him in all points of religiō to honor that See from whence he came Much more vvold S. Austin haue forborne the Protest Church to refuse as he did to ioine in religiō with them who obserue not the maner as he said to the Britōs of the holy Romā Apostolik Church In so much as not withstāding all the lawes terrors Proclamatiōs searches or paymēts Torturs Banishmēts executions which haue bene made these 50. yeares I B in his Taile of Tvvo leg Foxes c. 11 yet Ministers in their printed bookes dayly complaine of increase of Priests and Catholicks And one lately in his sermon at Pauls Crosse dedicated to the pretented Archb. of Canterbury and lyked of him saith pag. 79. Som. Collins that no bondage or hard measure can euer be thought able to suppresse or reclame vs. This this sheweth S. Austins worke to haue bene of God the water wherwith he watred the plants of his religion to haue an euerlasting flowing fountain from Heauen and the Church which he founded to be built vpon such a Rock as the gates of hel shall not preuail against it And that they which spurne against it do as S. Paule once did spurne against the pricke And on the other side Cranmer if he were as Fox saith a Lutheran in King Henries time it was but secretly And if he professed it in King Edwards time it was but for a verie short space And long since was there not one true Lutheran Protestant to be found in all England So soone was Luthers work dissolued so soone was his brooke growne drie And in steede of it runneth now Zuinglius or Caluins brooke which though it see me for the present to be ful and runne strongly yet if the Prince whose harte is in Gods hands would but ether disfancy it or at least withould his seuere hād from Catholicks yow should quickly see this ful brooke brought to a lowe ebbe and quickly dreaned and wax as dry as ether the brooke of Luther or the brookes of 300. Archereticks more wherof diuers haue runne far fuller and longer than ether Luthers or Caluins hath and now no signe of them is left Luther epist ad Albert Mogunt An 1525. forte doctrina mea iterum supprimetur yea scarce their names are knowne This Luther him selfe both forsawe and fourtould as is before declared l. 2. c. vlt. And Caluin also in his Preface before his Cathechisme in these wordes Of Posteritie I am so doutful as I dare scarce thinck therof For vnles God miraculously help from heauen me thinks I see extreme barbarousnes hang ouer the world And I pray God that a while hence our children feele not this to haue bene rather a true prophecie than a coniecture And if we mark we shall see that as Vipers broode killeth their Mother of whome they came So new haeresies destroy the ould from whence they sprange Thus the Puritan impugneth the Protestant and the Brownist vndermineth the Puritan Wherfor let all men that be careful of their saluation harken to S. Hieroms aduise saying to a Luciferian Haeretick I will tel thee my mind breefly and plainly That we should abide in that Church which founded of the Apostles contineweth to this daye For shall we doute saith S. Austin l. de vtil Cred. to put oure selues in the lap of the Church wich from the See Apoostolick by succession of Bishops in vaine Haereticks barking about yt hath gotten the hight of authoritie Epilog 1. THus we see most deerly beloued Contrimen that if we compare according to the true rules of prudence and wisdome the Roman Catholike Protest religion in their first founders here in our English Nation other for learning or vertue for missiō or orders for motiues to preache for vniuersalitie of religiō or confession of Aduersaries for miracles or succession and continuance the Catholik