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A80622 The grounds and ends of the baptisme of the children of the faithfull. Opened in a familiar discourse by way of a dialogue, or brotherly conference. / By the learned and faithfull minister of Christ, John Cotton, teacher of the Church of Boston in New-England. Cotton, John, 1584-1652.; Goodwin, Thomas, 1600-1680. 1646 (1646) Wing C6436; Thomason E356_16; ESTC R201141 171,314 214

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it is both adventitious and accidentall for the Ministers power i● compleate without it and it is also usurped For neither had the Law lawful power from Christ to give such power to the Patron and Bishop nor had the Bishop and Patron lawfull right from Christ to receive it But as the Law then stood in force neither could the People choose their Minister without leave of the Patron nor induct him into their Church without the O●dination and license of the Bishop Thus when Pirates have invaded a ship no man in it neither Officer nor Passenger can come by his owne goods but by leave of the Pirates who upon their submission to them will give them the keyes of their owne vessels and chests This power to come to their owne goods received from the Pirates is not that which giveth them true and proper right to enter upon the possession and use of their owne goods for that right they had by a former just title which Pirates cannot disanull but it is onely adventitious and accidentall I need not apply it to the case in hand the Application is obvious Silvester But all such submission either of People or Ministers unto such usurpation is it not a sinne Silvanus That is another Question and meete to be considered by the persons whom it concerneth but not much materiall to the cause The persons surprized in a ship by pirates whom they are not able to resist may submit to this power which they cannot neither overcome nor avoid But Ministers and People if they cannot overcome such usurped power in the Church which now by the helpe of Christ they begin to doe by the aide of some superior Power yet they may avoide it by seeking the liberty of their consciences and of their Churches in some foraine Countries or Plantations Neither can any men so lawfully give away upon any termes the liberty of their consciences and of their Churches as they may give away the possession of their goods But to speake to the cause in hand though it be granted that the Patron and Bishop doe unlawfully usurpe such Power and that the Ministers and people doe unlawfully also submit to it yet such adventitious accidentall corruptions of the Persons doe not make void the spirituall true and holy calling which the Ministers receive from Christ nor make their administrations dispensed in that calling to bee of none effect Nay verily their calling and the worke of it for the substance ●hereof God hath borne witnesse to it from heaven by setting the seale of his blessing upon their labours in the Ministery The Apostle Paul proveth himself to be sent of Christ to the Corinthians especially by the conversion of many of them unto God by his Ministery Though I bee not an Apostle to others saith hee yet doubtlesse I am unto you for the seale of mine Apostleship are ye in the Lord 1 Cor. 9.1.2 with Chap. 4.15 16. By the same Argument Paul gathered that the Gospell of the Circumcision was committed to Peter and the Gospell of the uncircumcision to himselfe because of the gracious and effectuall power of Christ which breathed in his Ministery to the Gentiles and in Peters Ministery to the Jewes Peter James and John they saw saith hee that the Gospell of the uncircumcision was committed to mee and the Gospell of the Circumcision unto Peter For hee that wrought effectually in Peter to the Apostleship of the Circumcision the same was mighty in mee to the Gentiles Gal. 2.7 8 9. And this Argument taken from the Powerfull presence of God with a Ministery to confirme the lawfull authority of it though it now meete with exceptions cavils from the sonnes of men yet God himself judgeth it to bee of that weight and convincing power as to stop the mouths even of gainsaying Rebels and quiete to take away al murmurings against it and against him in it The story is well known when the People of Israel and some of the tribe of Levi had often murmured against Aaron and his sonnes for executing the Priests Office the Lord commanded Moses to take twelve Rods from the fathers of the twelve Tribes of Israel and to lay them up and Aarons rod amongst them before the Lord in the Tabernacle to the intent that the Lord might shew by his blessing upon any of the Rods which of all the Tribes himselfe had chosen to minister before him And in the morning when the Rods were taken forth the Rod of Aaron had budded and brought forth buds and bloomed blossoms and yeelded Almonds Num. 17.5 to 10. which was an effectuall demonstration of the divine approbation of Aarons Ministery And if this be such an effectuall demonstration of a ministers calling to be of god that the Lord blesseth the Rod of his Ministery with fruitfull increase then let all the murmurings of Gods people against the truth of the calling of the Godly Ministers in England cease for ever Harlots are sometimes blessed of God with fruitfull increase as well as chast wives Silvester And therefore though Ministers and Churches may bee blessed with Conversion and Regeneration of soules unto God yet it is no evident Demonstration of the truth either of such Ministers or such Churches Then i● the Argument of God taken from the miraculous budding Silvanu● and blossoming and fruitfulnesse of Aarons Rod of none effect For in the conversion of soules there is a concourse of a the miracles of Christ together the blinde see the deafe heare the lame walke the dead are raised up dead and dry bones live dry sticks bud and blossome and bring forth fruite All such miracles which doe all meete in the conversion of a sinner they are all of them divine Testimonies and can bee wrought by none other but by God himselfe And God never worketh any such to confirme either a false calling or any false doctrine It is true Harlots are sometimes followed with fruitfull increase but that is because God hath given a generall blessing in nature to men and beasts That in the mutuall fellowship of both sexes in either kinde they shall increase and multiply children to himselfe Besides though Harlots sometimes bee fruitfull yet the husbands of such Harlots will not acknowledge the children of whoredomes for their owne children No more will the Lord acknowledge so many of the People of England to bee children unto himselfe if they were the children of whoredomes borne of a wife of whoredomes Hos 2.2.4 The 7000. in Israel that did not bow their knees to Baall they were not begotten to God by the Ministery of the Priests either of Baal or of Jeroboam but of the Prophets of the Lord 1 Kings 18.37 Silvest●r But it is certaine many are baptized in England by dumbe dogs that cannot preach and therefore cannot beget soules to God and such Christ never sent to baptize Mat. 28.19 Silvanus If they cannot preach the greater is their sinne to baptize