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A51590 The Catholike scriptvrist, or, The plea of the Roman Catholikes shewing the Scriptures to hold forth the Roman faith in above forty of the chiefe controversies now under debate ... / by I.M. Mumford, J. (James), 1606-1666. 1662 (1662) Wing M3063; ESTC R32100 169,010 338

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true miracles Christ himself of himself sayth Iohn 15.24 If I had not done among them workes which no other man did they had not had sin To witt the sinne of Incredulity No sin therefore it is to reject Luther and Calvin and all such new teachers as never did miracle THE XLIII POINT That wee laudably keep feasts in the honour of Saints 1. THese feastes to many seeme to have no ground in Scripture and therefore not to be keept but to be esteemed unwarrantable Yet wee say first the Apostles may have instituted severall feasts of our Lord and our Lady though they thought that they sufficiently recommended them to posterity upon the warant of tradition only For they knew that upon tradition only the Sabboth had been kept from the beginning of the world untill Moyses that is for 2400. yeares After which time Moyses did first sett downe in writing this command Yet at the very beginning of the world Gen. 2.3 God blessed the seaventh day and sanctifyed it See the 2. Point n. 2. And thus we know by Tradition only that wee are not any longer to keep the seaventh day though God had sanctifyed it but that wee are to keep the Sunday in honour of his Resurrection which is the eighth and not the seaventh day 2. Now it is a strange thing that wee should be appointed by the Apostles to keep weekely a feast in honour of that day of the weeke on which Christ did rise and yet should not be appointed to keep the feast of the Resurrection it self The Iewes keept theyr Pentecost for having receaved Gods law in written tables And shall not Christians keep a Pentecost for having receaved the law of grace first divulged and written in mens harts at the coming of the Holy Ghost If the Resurrection of Christ be a mystery so great that one day every weeke should be keept through the whole yeare Holyday in honour of it shall Christs Ascension be so farre inferiour that no one day in a yeare and consequently no one in an age is to be keept in memory of it Had the Iewes reason to keep the feast of Tabernacles because God preserved them living in Tabernacles 40. yeares in the wilderness a benefitt belonging only to theyr Fathers And hath not the Church reason to institute a feast in the honour of Christ coming to live in the Tabernacle of our flesh at his Nativity And another feast in memory of his giving us under the shape of Bread his body to remaine in all the Tabernacles of our Churches and to enter so often into the Tabernacles of our Breasts both inestimable benefitts to us personally and allso to all our posterity Had the Iewes all reason to keep a feast of assembly or Collection in gratitude for the peaceable possession of the Land of promisse and have not wee more reason to keep the solemnity of all Saints our most Holy Fathers who now are in peaceable possession of the Land of the living and the inheritance of Christ and from thence afford us help and assistance to come thither Had the Iewes sufficient reason to keep the feasts of Trumpets Numb 29. v. 6. in gratefull memory that theyr father Isaac was freed from beeing sacrificed by Abraham God sending a Ramme to be sacrificed in his place and therefore they allwayse offered a Ramme in that feast and hath not the Church sufficient reason to keep a lesse solemne feast in gratefull memory that our chief Patriarch and head of our Church S. Peter was freed when Herod intended bloudily to Sacrifice him to the good pleasure of the Iewes and when prayer was made to God without intermission by the Church for him Act. 12.5 An Angel of our Lord was sent the night before Herod would have brought him forth to deliver him as well as to deliver Isaac now upon the point of beeing slain This I bring because many wonder that wee keep a feast though lesse solemne of S. Peters Chaines and of his delivery from them As for the feasts of Martyrs because to them it is a greater benefitt to suffer all torments and consummate them by death it self then to be freed by miracle from them the Church hath all reason to solemnize the dayes upon which God glorifyed these blessed Martyrs by enabling them first to undergo so excessive torments so couragiously and then crowned them with immortall blisse after theyr Victory The Iewes allso besides these solemnities here mentioned and besides theyr weekly sabboth had divers other feasts yea every new Moon brought them at least one solemnity And will you think that Gods Church can have no reason nor authority to appoint any other feast then the Sunday 2. I will therefore farther shew you out of Scripture that besides the feasts appointed by God in Scripture other feasts have been superadded laudably by the authority of the Church By which will appeare her authority to do this when she judgeth it expedient The law prescribed the solemnity of Azymes or of unleavened bread to be keept but seaven dayes Yet upon a peculiar occasion it seemed expedient to the Church then assembled to add seaven more so sayth the Scripture 2. Chron. 30.23 The whole Assembly took counsell to keep other seaven dayes and they keept other seaven dayes And the Scripture adds v. 27 in commendation of this great piety And the Priests and Levites blessing the people theyr voyce was heard and theyr prayer came up to his Holy Habitation of heaven For as in Holy places so in Holy times prayers are more effectuall as here they were in a Time made Holy or set a part to Gods service by the authority of the Church only 3. Again Esther 9.20 upon the like authority it pleased the Iewes to establish this among them that they should keep the fourteenth day of the Month Adar and fifteenth day of the same yearly As the dayes wherein the Iewes rested from theyr enimies and the month which was turned to them from sorrow to ioy And the Iewes undertook to do this And v. 27. The Iewes ordeyned and took upon them and upon theyr seed and upon all such as joyned themselves unto them so as it should not faile that they would not keep these two dayes according to theyr appointed time every yeare Why Did any Scripture command this No but the Church did put this obligation upon it self The Iewes sayth the Scripture took upon themselves and theyr seed Christs Church hath no lesse authority in this kind then the Iewish Church had to impose an obligation upon herself and her seed and upon all that will be ioyned to her Religion Wee read allso that because the Church so judged it expedient a perpetuall feast with an Octave that is lasting for eight dayes was instituted Mach. 4.56 with out any peculiar warrant from Scripture besides the common warrant of holding that warrantable which the Church appointed Now if the bookes of Machabees be not true Scripture as we hold them
and for forty yeares theyr very Children shall bear theyr fornication and they shall suffer all the incommodities of wandering in a wildernesse Can then any man wonder if they themselves who had theyr pardon on these termes and then were slain the very next day by theyr enemies should for a time yea perhaps for forty years suffer some punishment after death Eternall punishment the old sin being forgiven they could not suffer if they did no new one yet manifestly some punishmēt after death could not but be due to thē seeing that so great a punishment was so justly laid upon theyr Childrē for theyr sake for forty whole years 7. Let vs go on 2. Sam. ch 12. vpon Davids great repentance for his great sins of Murther and Adultery God by the Prophet Nathan tould him v. 13. Our Lord allso hath taken away thy sin Howbeit because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the Lord to blaspheme the Child that is borne unto thee shall surely die Behold the sin taken away and yet behold a punishment still due even for this deed Yea for this deed the sword shall not depart from thy house for ever I will take thy wives and give them to thy neighbours and they shall sleep with thy wives in the sight of this Sun v. 10.11 All which great punishments even after this forgiven sin did befall David and his family His son dyed v. 18. Three more of his own sons were slain Ammon in the next chapter Absolom chapter 18. Adonias 1. Kings v. 24. Yea Absolom before his death did raise an Army against David his Father and enforced him to fly Ierusalem being taken they pitched a tent for Absolom in the house top the leads of the place And he went to his Fathers Concubines before all Israël 2. Sam. Ch. 16. v. 22. Thus in the sight of the Sun lying with his own fathers wives called here concubines because they were not admitted to the title of Queenes 8. Our Lord sayd to Moses and Aaron Num. 20.12 because you have not believed me you shall not bring this people into the land which I will give them And v. 24. Aaron shall be gathared to his people that is shall dye for he shall not enter into the land which I have given to the Children of Israël because he rebelled against my word and v. 28. Aaron dyed there in the top of the mountaine and Ch. 27. v. 13. God sayd to Moses when thou hast seen the land of promise thou allso shall be gathered vnto thy people as Aaron thy Brother was gathered For ye rebelled against my commandment Thus you see these two great Saints both punished with a most speedy death For that very sin of which they being admonished by God himself questionlesse did repent Whence after this sin committed God did so familiarly converse with Moses from ch 20. to 27. By all these and a world of other such examples it is made evident that upon the true repentance of the delinquent though the pain of eternall death be allwayes forgiven him yet often the delinquent remaines liable to suffer temporall punishments even as in this world though upon the repentance of a delinquent deserving death the punishment of death be forgiven him yet he is justly made liable to suffer imprisonment or condemned to pay such a fine 9. Out of this principle it clearly followeth that there is a Purgatory for seeing that a man may dye before he hath suffered or satisfyed for the punishment due by divine Iustice unto him it doth necessarily follow that this punishment according to the same Iustice must be given him in the world to come not in hell because the sin is forgiven him but yet in the prison of Purgatory out of which he shall not go untill he hath paid the last farthing Matth. 5.26 It remains then proved that this principle so well grounded in Scripture cannot be true unlesse it allso be true that there is a Purgatory 10. I passe to the second principle teaching that some sins are only veniall deserving indeed some punishment but not eternall For as he were a Tyrant who would punish every offence though it deserves but whipping with a cruell death so we should have too too hard opinion of Gods Iustice if we believed that for every merry lye for every idle word or passionate speech for every trifling away of a small time unprofitably for every vain or lazy action he should punish the delinquent with death everlasting and the endlesse and unspeakable torments of Hell fire if the person dyeth without repentance as thousands must needs do who dye suddenly or out of theyr senses or in theyr sleep c. 11. That there be such veniall sins or smaller offences as these are which be truly sins yet not mortall or damnable is clear out of Scripture Exod 1.17 But the Midwives of Egypt feared God and preserved the men Children contrary to the command of the King who questioning them for breaking his commandment they answered The Hebrew weomen are not as the Egyptian weomen for they have the knowledg to play the Midwife themselves and before we come to them they are delivered God therefore did well to the Midwives and because they feared God be built them houses Here you shee the Midwives telling an officious lye which is a sin yet this sin did not take from them the love of God or made God hate them but they even then feared God as the Scripture sayth and he for this theyr fear exercised not in this lye but in theyr Charity and Mercy highly rewarded them Yet this lying being a sin divine Iustice could not but reserve some punishment for it though not eternall 12. Even so Iosue 2.2 The spies sent by Iosue entred the house of Rahab And it was told the King of Iericho He sent to Rahab saying bring forth the men that came to the for they be spies and the woman taking the men hid them and sayd I confesse they came to me when the gate was a shutting in the dark and they withall went out I know not whither they be gone persue quickly and you shall overtake them But she made the men go up to the roof of her house and covered them with the stalk of flax which was there Here you have another officious lye but only a veniall not a damnable sin By lying she sinned venially but by that act of charitably hiding the spies she pleased God For S. Paul sayth by Faith Rahab perished not receiving the spies with peace Hebr. 11. 31. And S. Iames chap. 2. v. 25. Rahab was she not justifyed by works receiving the Messengers and putting them forth another way after that she had first hid them Of these kind of veniall sins the Scripture allso sayth Seven times shall the just fall and rise again Prov. 24.16 For these smaller sins cast us not out of Gods favour wherefore by his grace we soon get pardon