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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A39999	Rectius instruendum, or, A review and examination of the doctrine presented by one assuming the name of ane [sic] informer in three dialogues with a certain doubter, upon the controverted points of episcopacy, the convenants against episcopacy and separation : wherein the unsoundnes, and (in manythinges) the inconsistency of the informers principles, arguments, and answers upon these points, the violence which he hath offred unto the Holy Scripture and to diverse authors ancient and modern, is demonstrat and made appear, and that truth which is after godlines owned by the true Protestant Presbyterian Church of Scotland asserted and vindicated.	Forrester, Thomas, 1635?-1706.	1684 (1684)	Wing F1597; ESTC R36468	441,276	728

their way and party is in many respects sinfull and since he Instances the protestants plea for separating from Rome on this ground knowes he not that the Papists tell us such stories anent union with the Church and that suffering without the Church is no Christian suffering to Iustifie their bloody persecutions which very well sutes his case And no doubt the protestants answer viz. That we are in Christs Church because owning his truth tho separat from their syn●…gogue and that notwithstanding this pretence the blood of protestant Martyrs is in their skirts doth sute the case of Presbyterians in relation to their persecuters But the great charge followes viz. That we are guilty of as groundless and unreasonable separation as we shall read of in any age of the Church Bona verba How is this made good first saith he in casting off Christian love which is heart Schism 2. He chargeth with external Schism in separating in acts of Worship Now what if we recriminat in both these and retort this double charge upon himself Have they not disownd the Worship of Presbyterian ministers Professours and charged all to separat from them meerly for non-complyance with their perjured Prelats 2. Have they not for many years glutted themselves with their blood I may say sweemd in it upon the same very ground of forbearance as to prelatick complyance and endeavour by multiplyed lawes and Acts to root them out of the very nation Good Sir Pull this beam out of your own eye that you may see a litle clearer in this point But as to the first he sayes that we make difference in Iudgement as to lesser matters Church Government a ground of difference in affection as if they were no Christians who are not of our persuasion in these things putting thus lesser points into our creed and un unchurching and unsancting all who are not of our persuasion therin Ans. As to the first general charge I know none more guilty then themselves who are contending with fire and sword tanquam pro aris focis for these their lesser points and with unheard of rage seeking the ruine of all who dare not comply in Judgement and practice with them therein 2. I thinke Christian affection to their souls is best seen in opposing and testifying against their soul-destroying sins Thou shalt by any means rebuke thy neighbour and not suffer sin upon him is an old standing rule Levit. 19 17. And if they be even hated in so far as owning pernicious wayes it s no more then what David avowes Psal 139 21 22. do not I hate them that hate thee I hate them with a perfect hatred I account them my enemies I hate the work of them that turn aside it shall not cleave unto me 3. As we have not so learn'd Christ to call every thing lesser or small po●…nts which his latitudinarian party have the confidence to term thus so we know no point of truth reveald and commended to us in the word as the object of our faith and matter of our practice which should be keept out of our creed lest our saith become much shorter then the Scripture pattern And we acknowledge not the new patchment of mens Lawes which this man and his fellow-Conformists have annext to their creed and which can pro arbitrio make or unmake these his lesser points But he sayes that we unchurch and condemn all Churches in all ages who have ownd Bishops Liturgies festivals and oth●…r ceremonies And if we make the removal of these things necessary to a Church there hath not been a a Church for above a 1000 yeares together Ans. To make the last part of this argument not to contradict the first he should have said that there has not been a Church without these things mentioned these 1600 years but the man seeing his first flight or Rodomontade too fierce he did well to clap his wings closser Upon a review of this page I find our Informer in this charge playes but the pityfull Camelion and versipellis for finding that this assertion of his that Christians of all ages since Christs time and in all places have own'd Bishops Liturgies Festival dayes and other ceremonies would have drawn upon him the heavy burthen and task of a proofe he lightens himself of this burthen by a prudent almost which in this point is very significant But his confining the liturgies Festivals and other ceremonies within the compass of the last thousand years sullied with all popish abominations appearing too simple inadvertency within the compass of two or three lines he secures it with a much above But lest this prove too broad reckoning he instances the second or third century from whence he sayes we beginne our reckoning as to Bishops festivals liturgies and other ceremonies But 1. why mends he the matter so inadvertently as to run in such a wide uncertainty as the the length of 200 yeares in that calculation which he imputes to us 2. I challenge him to shew what presbyterian writter did ever commence the original of liturgies and festivals with his blind c. of other ceremonies which will travell who knowes whither and include who knowes what from the third far less the second century I affirm that its more then he or any for him can prove that the Church hath had Bishops liturgies and festivals since Christ. Our writters have abundantly proved the contrary and we challenge him to shew either his Diocesan Bishops liturgies or festivals and the c. of his ceremonies in the first Apostolick Church or in these two ages mentioned by him That there were not diocesan Bishops then or long after we have already proved and far less Erastian Prelats For holy dayes let him shew by divine appointment any other then the Christian Sabath in the Apostolick Church if he can or in the first succeeding ages As for the feast of Esther it is acknowledged to have come in by custome after the Apostolick times For liturgies we assert that the Apostolick Church and age knew no such thing as set impos'd liturgies and formes other then Christs prescriptions as to baptism the Lords supper and that they pray'd as was suteable to the present action and circumstances of time place and persons If he betake him to the liturgies which are ascribed to Peter James Mathew Andrew Clement Mark Dionisius Areopagite and other Disciples protestant writers will stigmatize him for embracing that which they have abundantly proved to be counterfit That liturgies had no place for a long time in the Church is proved by clear testimonies Tertullian Apol. cap. 30. shews that in their publick Assemblies christians did pray sine monitore quia de pectore that is without a prescription because from their heart And in his treatise de Oratione sayes that there are somethings to be asked according to the occasions of every man that the Lords prayer being laid as a fundation its lawfull to build on that

things in their case considered it would be a hard task to produce these Canons stricking against that practice as it stood circumstantiat considering their Schismatick withstanding the Reformation of this Church their Arminian principles and defending popish ceremonies which errors they had openly vented and obstinatly maintaind His next charge of ordaining others to perpetuat our schism is a manifest calumny this true organick Church is by this practice only propagating a lawfull pure Ministry in opposition to their destroying Schismatick course the blessed fruits whereof and its seals upon the hearts of the people of God have been conspicuous and we hope yet further will And no less gross is that calumny which follows anent our great mixt communions and admission of ignorant vitious persons unto them who he sayes by our way cannot be kept back there being none admitted at any seasons of this nature which have been very rare but upon sufficient testimonies from faithfull Ministers or elderships But is he not ashamed to object this to us whereof his party is so notoriously guilty who are knowen to admit yea call promiscuously to fill their empty tables which tender souls dare not approach unto both gross ignorants and notoriously profane to the shame and scandal of Religion and the contempt of that holy ordinance our persuading people not to owne Conformists as the Ministers of this Church we hope doth now appear better grounded then all this Informers persuasives to the contrary And that we have been in any measure succesfull in this speaks out Gods purpose not to leave wholly our married land For that which he cites out of Baxters preface to the Cure of Church divisions anent the odiousness of Sacrifices presented to God without love and reconciliation to brethren and of making a peoples communion in worship the badge and means of uncharitablness and divisions we th●…nk reconciliation and unionin the Lord needfull to acceptable worship but an association with scandalous Schismaticks and backsliders in their wickedness we think is no less dangerous and obstructive to reall fellowship with God in duty especially since God presses our coming out from among such and our being separat from the contagion of their sin with this motive that he will receive us And as there is a holy brotherhood which we must associat with in order to communion with God so there is a congregation of evill doers which we must hate Yea we have Davids precedency as is before observed to hate them with perfect hatred and count them our enemies But who can sufficiently admire these mens talk of unity and love who having first broken and divided this poor Church have been these so many years persecuting to the death yea sweeming in the blood of the faithfull Ministers and professors therof because hey durst not joyn to their way and conform to their supposed trifles and indifferencies Surely prelacy being the grand Idol of Jealousy provoking God against us and the fire which hath kindled all our combustions and hath opened the veins of the Lords servants and people to bleed for many years occasioned such horrid dispersion and unheard of oppression 〈◊〉 the Lords Church and people in our Land with what f●…ces can these upholders of this course look up to the God of Love and peace and how can they lift up suc●… bloody wrathfull hands to him But now his poor half proselyted Doubter confesses that there is much truth in what he has heard from this sound Informer forsooth And takes leave with a profest resolution to reflect upon what he has heard from him Whereupon he dismisses him with some of his healing advices prefacing with an admonition to seek illumination from God But had this man been serious in seeking this from God he had not vented in these trilling Dialogues such weak notions and reproaches against Gods truth and people But since his Doubter returns him no answer therunto I shall make up his want and shortly offer my thoughts upon them His first advice is not to be too confident of our own opinion as undoubtedly right but consider what he hath said in his three conferences Ans. If it be truth which we hold sure we most hold it by faith in a pure conscience and not be wavering and ●…ossed children We acknowledge not the Cartesian principle and the popish doubting way as found divinity and a confidence of truth is far from a self confidence As for what is offered in his three dialogues I hope it is sufficiently antidoted by what is said above so that it needs not in the least demurr our persuasion 2. He will not have us think the matters of difference to be the substantialls of Relegion since persons of both persuasions may keep love and fellowship without renting the Church and neglecting ordinances because greater differences have been and communion not broken thereby Ans. If these matters contraverted be not substantialls why then have they made such a substantiall bloody contest for them ●…anquam pro aris focis for so many years and if communion must not be broken in a Church upon this account why have they rent and overturned our Church and persecute away so many godly Ministers and professors for these things denying all fellowship with them in their worship for adhering to their principles and disowning this course of conformity had prelatists suffered Presbyterian Ministers and professors to stand as they were in this Church to enjoy their principles and to follow their respective duties according to their stations faithfull Ministers to preach and Gods people to enjoy the fruits of their Ministry he might with some colour have pretended to this desire of union and fellowship but since prelatists have cast them out and do so cruelly persecute them for adhering to their principles and owning these duties this pretence is nothing but deceitfull hypocrisy He adds that the difference is but a matter of government and if we separat for this we would have separat from all Churches since christianity began and if Christ held no comunion with a Church where prelacy was he hath then seldom had a Church and hath been for many years a head without members Ans. This is nothing but a renewed repetition of groundless assertions for how proves he that our plea is a matter of government only surely their course strikes at the whole of our Reformation as hath been cleared Again how proves he that we would have separat upon this ground from the Church for so long a time tho it were granted that our plea were only a matter of government since he hath not yet produced instances of such a prelacy as we have in any Church Besides since the Informer pleads for prelacy upon pretended Apostolical precepts and practices and yet doth here vilify it unto a meer punctilio and makes it such a sorry business as persons may come and go upon it at their pleasure we may easily discover what nimble Sophisters and