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A47734 An answer to a book, intituled, The state of the Protestants in Ireland under the late King James government in which, their carriage towards him is justified, and the absolute necessity of their endeavouring to be free'd from his government, and of submitting to their present Majesties, is demonstrated. Leslie, Charles, 1650-1722. 1692 (1692) Wing L1120; ESTC R994 223,524 303

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that none should withstand him or rise up against him and that nothing can be more pernicious to the Commonwealth in any Government than that the Subjects should have a Power of taking up Arms to defend their Liberty and Religion All these are Dr. Hicks his Words in the same Chapter our Author quotes and whether they all relate only to private Injuries and the ordinary Male-Administration of Government as our Author would have you believe I will not provoke your Patience to say any more towards it than barely setting down the Words But for the Homilies it may be more material to know if they make for his purpose because they are every Word confirm'd by Act of Parliament and Convocation which this Author and all the Clergy have subscribed and which is more Julian Johnson himself the Patron of Resistance says that it is the next best Book to the Bible Let us see therefore whether what they say relate only to private Injuries or the ordinary Male-Administration of Government From the Homilies And first for the Original of Government the first Homily against wilful Rebellion tells you That it cometh neither of Fortune and Chance as they term it nor of the Ambition of mortal Men and Women climing up on their own accord to Dominion that there be Kings Queens and Princes and other Governors over Men being their Subjects but all Kings Queens and other Governors are specially appointed by the Ordinance of God But to come to our Author's Purpose The Case is put of Kings that seek to Ruine and Destroy and Undoe their People and these Scriptures are quoted When the Wicked do Reign then Men go to Ruine A foolish Prince destroyeth the People and a covetous King undoeth his Subjects And the Question is put Whether Subjects may Resist such Princes Which is ruled absolutely in the Negative with a God forbid and many Reasons are given particularly that Rebellion is the greatest of all Mischiefs and that the naughtiest and lewdest Subjects are aptest to find Faults and that it would be unreasonable to let them be Judges what Princes were Tolerable and what were Evil and Intolerable That a Rebel is worse than the worst Prince and Rebellion worse than the worst Government of the worst Prince that hitherto hath been That such Lewd Remedies are far worse than any other Maladies and Disorders that can be in the Body of a Commonwealth But to leave no room for a Reply the Objection is farther urged What if the Prince be Indiscreet and Evil indeed and it is also evident to all Men's Eyes that he is so Neither is this allow'd for a Cause of Resistance but on the contrary we are admonished to Reflect That it is our Sins have brought such a King to Rule over us God saith the holy Scripture maketh a wicked Man to Reign for the Sins of the People Job 34.10 for Subjects to deserve through their Sins to have an evil Prince and then to Rebel against him were double and treble Evil by provoking God more to Plague them Nay let us either deserve to have a good Prince or let us patiently suffer and obey such as we deserve And that you may not think these were only Moderate and Tolerable Evils or Private Injuries or not Universal enough immediately after the Case is put of the Christians under Caligula Claudius or Nero and the Jews under Nebuchodonosor who slew their Kings Nobles Parents Children and Kinsfolks burn'd their Country Cities yea Jerusalem it self and the Holy Temple and carried the Residue remaining alive Captives with him into Babylon And then is shewn how both Christians and Jews by the Command of the Apostles and Prophets were not only barr'd from Resistance but were obliged to Pray for these Cruel Heathen Tyrants Murtherers and Oppressors of them and Destroyers of their Countrey with a Confession that their Sins had deserved such Princes to Reign over them Yet all this is not thought so bad nor mischievous to a Country as Resistance which as this Homily says does more mischief than Foreign Enemies would or could do And the mischief is more Universal for the Homily says Such Rebels do not only Rise against their Prince against their Natural Country but against all their Country-men Women and Children against Themselves their Wives Children and Kinsfolk and by so wicked an Example against all Christendom and against whole Mankind of all manner of People through the wide World The second Homily inlarges upon the Case of Saul and David and then puts the several Pretences for Rebellion into Questions or Demands which are all resolved from the Command and Example of David Viz. Shall not we specially being so good Men as we are Rise and Rebel against a Prince hated of God and God's Enemy and therefore likely not to Prosper either in War or Peace but to be hurtful and pernicious to the Commonwealth Shall we not Rise and Rebel against so unkind a Prince nothing considering or regarding our true faithful and painful Service or the safeguard of our Posterity Shall we not Rise and Rebel against our known mortal and deadly Enemy that seeketh our Lives Shall we not assemble an Army of such good Fellows as we are and by hazarding our Lives and the Lives of such as shall withstand us and with all hazarding the whole Estate of our Country Remove so Naughty a Prince Are not they some say lusty and couragious Captains valiant Men of Stomach and good Mens Bodies that do venture by force to kill and depose their King being a Naughty Prince and their Mortal Enemy They may be as Lusty and Couragious as they list yet saith Godly David they can be no Good nor Godly Men that so do And so having answered all the above Queries in the negative after his own Example and the Command of God at last this Quere is put What shall we then do to an Evil to an unkind Prince and Enemy to us hated of God hurtful to the Commonwealth c. Lay no violent hand upon him saith David but let him live until God appoint and work his End either by Natural Death or in War by Lawful Enemies not by Traytorous Subjects Thus would Godly David make answer and St. Paul as ye have heard willeth us also to Pray for such a Prince These are the Rules this Homily sets down concerning Rebelling against Evil Princes Unkind Princes Cruel Princes Princes that be to their Subjects mortal Enemies Princes that are out of God's favour and so hurtful and like to be hurtful to the Commonwealth And to shew that all this is not meant only of Particular Persons but of the whole Nation it is thus expressed at the end of this Homily viz. That the whole Jewish Nation being otherwise a stubborn People were to be obedient to the Commandment of a Foreign Heathen Prince and this doth prove that Christian Rebels against Christian Princes are far worse than the stubborn Jews whom we yet account
the ruine of the Army and that there could be found no hands so cheap and easie to be got or any that would be more hearty and faithfull than the Protestants of this Countrey who having their particular Interests seconded by Natural and Religious motives must be more zealous in carrying on this War than any foreign or mercenary Soldiers as is evident by what has been done by the London-derry and Eneskillen Soldiers who are and were made up of the meanest and lowest People of this and the neighbouring Provinces You cannot forget who offered and that at their own charge on our first landing here to block up Charlemont and to raise Regiments to secure the Northern Garisons that the established Army might have the more leisure to attend the motions of the publick Enemy and I presume you cannot but as well remember who ridiculed scorned and contemned all motions of that kind and who affirmed and that openly that the Protestants of this Province ought rather to be treated as Enemies than Friends and that the best of them had either basely complied with K. J. and his Party or cowardly left and deserted their Countrey that the Goods and Stocks of the Protestant inhabitants once seized by the Enemy were forfeited and ought not to be restored but given as encouragement to the Soldiers that all Papists ought to be plundred and none protected that the restoration of Civil Government was a diminution of the power of the General and the Army and that all the Protestants inhabitants of this Province were false to the present Government and ought not to be trusted with places of Trust or Power that as their Persons were not to be trusted so their Oaths and Complaints were neither to be believed nor redressed that so an easier and a safer approach might be made to invade the little left them by the Irish That all endeavours of the settlement of a publick Revenue were designs to oppress the Army that free quartering was the least retaliation that Protestants could give for being restored to their former Estates that Religion is but Canting and Debauchery the necessary Character of Soldiers If to these you add the Pressing of Horses at pleasure Quartering at pleasure Robbing and Plundering at pleasure denying the People Bread or Seed of their own Corn though the General by his publick Proclamation requires both and some openly and publickly contemning and scorning the said Proclamation whereby multitudes of Families are already reduced to want of Bread and left only to beg or steal or starve These being the Practices and these the Principles and both as well known to you as to me can it be wondered that the oppressed Protestants here should report us worse than the Irish or can it be wondered that God should pursue us with his dreadfull Judgments who have so provoked him with our daring sins Or can we rationally expect God should fight for us while we thus fight against him We may as well expect Grapes from Thornes and Figs from Thistles as success to a Protestant Cause from such hands Can we expect Sodom to destroy Babylon or Debauchery to destroy Popery Our Enemy fights with the Principle of a mistaken Conscience against us we against the conviction of our own Principles against them What I have learned of the Enemies Principles and Practices since I left you I shall here inform you and reduce what I have to say to these two general heads 1. The frequent Discourse of their King 2. His publick Declarations and Proclamations for the well government of his Army 1. As to his private Discourse 1. He expresseth great Zeal and passionate Affection to his English Subjects in so much that both French and Irish often say of him as he did of K. David That he loves his Enemies and hates his Friends 2. He is heard often to desire his Officers That in their Engagement with the English they should be treated as mistaken Subjects and not as obstinate Rebels 3. He is heard often to declare That since he rightly understood Christianity he ever asserted Christian Liberty as well in his past Prosperity as his present Adversity 4. That all Perswasions in matters of Religion Who have most Charity and least of Severity are most agreeable to Christianity 5. He is often heard to complain That he ever observed an aptitude and propensity in Persons of Power to persecute such as differ from them 6. That this natural aptitude to persecute ought to be restrained by wholesome and effectual Laws 7. That this persecuting Spirit influencing the greater number of all Perswasions especially Persons in Power is the only cause of his Majesty's present Sufferings 8. He is passionately kind to all Deserters and chearfully receives and soon prefers them 9. He pretending his Sufferings to be thus on the account of Conscience seems not to doubt but God will find some unexpected means for his Restauration in 1690. as he did in 1660. 10. He is heard frequently to declare against the Dragooning Persecution of France and the barbarous and inhumane Murders committed on the Protestants of this Kingdom in the year 1641. as passionately and perhaps as sincerely as the Scribes and Pharisees did against their forefathers for persecuting the Prophets To these I think fit to add the particulars of his Majesty's publick Declarations which are ordered to be read once every two months in the head of every Troop and Company in his whole Army and to be fixed up in all the Boroughs and Market-Towns in this Kingdom 1. His Majesty is pleased earnestly to recommend the performance of publick and private Duties to God to all under his command and particularly recommends to the Roman Catholicks of his Army frequent Confessions and strict observation of Sundays and Holy-days 2. He publickly declares what subsistance he allows to every Horse Dragoon and every private Soldier in his Army and what is reserved in the Pay-Master's hands for the Accoutrements and the Hospital 3. He avoids and forbids as unnessary the charge of all Agents and commands the Majors of every Regiment to do that work and to save the charge 4. He strictly requires the private Soldier out of the said Subsistence duly and truly to pay his Quarters 5. In case they shall want their Subsistence they are then required every week to give their respective Landlords a Note under their hands which shall be received by the Receiver General as so much Money out of any Branch of His Majesty's Revenue 6. His Majesty forbids all stragling of private Soldiers from their Garrisons without their Officers Pass and requires all Officers either Military or Civil to apprehend such Soldiers having no Pass and to send them to their Colours to receive punishment according to their demerits 7. His Majesty by the same Proclamation forbids all Plundering on any pretence whatsoever under pain of death without Mercy 8. He requires both Officers and Soldiers under the pain of his high Displeasure to