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A92612 Some papers given in by the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland, to the Honourable Houses of the Parliament of England in answer to their votes of the 24. of September 1646. Concerning the disposing of His Majesties person.; Proceedings. 1646-9 Scotland. Convention of Estates.; England and Wales. Parliament. 1646 (1646) Wing S1344; ESTC R232198 15,712 31

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