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A19863 A briefe discourse dialoguevvise shevving how false & dangerous their reports are, which affirme, the Spaniards intended inuasion to be, for the reestablishment of the Romish religion; for her Maiesties succors giuen to the Netherlanders, and for Sir Frances Drakes enterprise three yeares past into the VVest Indies. Daunce, Edward. 1590 (1590) STC 6290; ESTC S105195 9,599 28

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are for matter of religion her Maiesties fauors towards your people and her enterprise into the VVest Indies slanders of so apparant danger the same extenuating the precedent auarice and ambitiō of Spaine meeting with the ill humors of our people that I maruell those feigners should no lesse in their conuenticles lament their practise then Cicero wondered the Aruspices could in deluding the people forbeare laughter beholding one another To which PHILEMON the sunne hath not beheld anie thing more vnsemely then this pretence of iustice cloked with a deepe desire of noueltie those rumors being not onely factious but also false and regarding the time full of perill and danger as you EPOENETVS said he may know if you loke but as far as the emperour Charles the fift when Granuellanus in our prouinces and Philip not long after in this realme sought to make our golden fleece and your Lion a pray for the Egles of Austria Then I. I am not ignorant PHILEMON of either for whilst all places as with bright tropheis of papacie were lightened with the burnt bodies of the people Philip hoised his first saile of ambition which as a skilfull maister he bare so lowe that many fauored his course and wished him the good windes of fortune especially his wife Mary who being perswaded by him it wold greatly aduance her authority were he crowned and made her companion of dignity seriously endeuored not knowing howe much that ceremony would preiudice her succession to effect his purpose To this she was also greatly incited by the clergie who to make sure their particular by that mean cared not to hazard the generall state of the realme But the Lords who by an ancient policie had greater interest in matters of gouernement hauing more cause to regard the reputation of their houses likely to diminish by his neighbourhood then the Prelats their momentanie dignities withstood it as a matter dangerous and not without common perill This purpose being ouerthrowne by their prouidence he taketh occasion by tumults happening about that season to perswade his wife to new matter seeming not only profitable but also necessarie for both alledging that he often departing this realme for the affaires of his own countries could not without danger performe the parts of a louing husband towards her the blockhouses standing which might prohibit his returne and the want of common fauor remaining For greater credit whereof he cited a late act then of the valorous Baron the Lord VVilliam Howard of Effingham high Admiral of England who being sent to conduct him with the nauie brought the kings ship in perill by deliuering some great shot for that he wouldnot as the custome is strike saile by which ceremonie he was to acknowledge the Queenes soueraigntie in these seas I was said PHILEMON at that time in the shipping of our country with the Spanish fleete and know that to be the onely cause why that noble Baron was after remoued from his romth but proceed EPOENETVS This motion said I returning where I left seeming iust was forthwith effected and what lets soeuer to his returne either rased or translated into his seuerall countries vnder colour of furnishing him for the warres of France so that for atchieuing his intention hauing the fauor of his wife and Prelats he wanted litle more then time we being in a manner disarmed to be made absolute to apply the significant posie of the golden fleece PRETIVM NON VILE LABORIS to the order of our George Garter which perhaps being toucht in conscience with the honorable deuice and meaning of our order HON Y SOIT QVI MAL Y PENSE he would haue refused These proceedings were then suspected as tending to disbranch the naturall cions to ingraffe him selfe which he had in nearer sort attempted had he not bene tript by the death of his wife And notwithstanding that he had therby lost many occasions of time and place and that his pray readie to be deuoured was by that meane taken from betweene his teeth he yet desisted not to take occasion by the forehead when and wheresoeuer he met her for which cause and to impresse an opinion in all nations of his right to our countrey he ioyned manie yeares after her Maiesties happie enterance to the Royall seate the title of England with that of his own dominions which could not be with any good meaning or without great preiudice to her Maiestie her heires lawfull successors These things are well knowen to manie yet liuing neither will the Spaniards by colour of the authoritie they had gotten amongst vs deny it as a thing vniust considering that the limitation of tyrants consisteth in things they can not get but if these good bodies should appealing to the fauor of malcontents complaine they are sclandered let vs enter into a scrutiny of times and we shall find them charged with the munition artillerie and other abillements of warre which could not be embezeled to any other end then the increase of their empire But if they denie the hauing of it or that they had it to any such vse I will ioyne with them in issue for both If they had it not let them they running through the store of the realme accompt how it was bestowed For Henrie the eight being one of the victorious kings of that age stil in action with France and Scotland the least of which is able to abate the high thoughts of a proud enemie could not in respect of his conquests be vnfurnished of prouision to withstand the power of so great aduersaries Agayne the time betweene this triumphant king his daughter Mary was in regard of our expectatiō but short in which there was no diminution of any thing within the realme as might appeare as well by the victories of that good king Edward being the hope of Europe as his bettering of the gold and siluer coines But how great her Maiesties charges grew by a new prouision of all thing immediatly after her royall entrie no man is ignorant no not strangers the dukes Memorancie and Cassimer greatly praising vpon their view only of her store in the Tower her carefull and most wise prouidence which they would not haue done had they knowen any part thereof not to haue bene of her Maiesties cost Now the question is to be asked of these temperat persons our warlike furniture being at that time their king maried with her Maiesties sister Mary comparable with any of the greatest Princes of the west part who eloigned the same I must answere for them they being occupied in hastening the fift monarchie euē they who haue vowed to make desolate our country and to murder a most sacred and Christian Princesse The seisure of armour treasure and munition with the rasure of places defensiue vpon conditions of peace is an old stratageme and vsed by the Turke in the times of his frēdship with them whō he mindeth to subdue which if any would excuse in the Spaniard
greedinesse is seldome satisfied whose countrey contenteth them not it may be still doubted no place being esteemed so deare as the place of birth and education that their lightnesse can not be stayed by change but rather impaired by loosing their first faith the iust recompence of which amongst those that are prudent is chastisement Vortiger could well band with this racket he putting to death an hundred Picts at one bandy whom he procured to kil the king Constantius Selim the great Turke had also great skill at this game who promising Vstarabi a phisition ten Duckets a day during his life to poison his father Baisit the second did for recompence of the fact cut of his head saying the phisition would no more spare him then he did his father if anie would require him The like Caesar Borgia the Spaniard practised with Messire Remiro Dorco whom he only vsed in all murders treasons and oppressions of the people If this were the bountie of tyrants to traitors good kings I hope will not be behind them in iust punishments whom they haue exceeded in due mainteining iustice as the testimonies of Dauid that caused the Amalec to dy that bosted to haue slaine Saul and of good Dane Canutus who being companion in this kingdom with Edmond named for his cheualry Ironside put to death Eudricus the Saxon who had slain his soueraigne to bring the whole empire into Canutus hands do plentifully witnesse These are said PHILEMON presidents of rare iustice most excellent to be followed of them that care to maintaine the high reputation of their calling for according to the opinion of ciuilians who affirme that their lawes permit a gētleman to make any iniury done to one of his order no lesse his then if it were profered him selfe which interest and similitude of dignitie were it duly regarded by persons of equalitie would greatly abate the bold offers of these disturbers of gouernement as well for that they ariue not amisse either into the handes of bad or good Princes in regard of chastisemēt as that wise kings may suspect that as they many times rise they may also fall by factious followers to whom in respect of their countries health to neglect money would be sometimes according to the comicall Poet a great gaine Then I. It is most true that where this moath of faction entereth she eateth through the garmentes of peace whether of the long or short robe Of this opinion was that noble gentleman Monsieur du Lant who being sent by the Frēch king Lewes the 12. into Italie to restore diuers castels to the Florentins takē from them by the Duke Valentino and the Vitelli in the vales of Treuere and Chiana and finding there many which bosted to be of the faction of one Marzoco greatly blamed them alledging that if the subiectes of Fraunce should name them selues partakers with the king his Maister though spoken with dutie they should be chastised as such which suppose a contrarie partie in that realme against the king an admonition worthie to be written with letters of gold in publicke places as monuments of his singular prudence For if the vnitie of elemēts humors or qualities mainteineth the life either of bodies naturall or politicke it cannot be but a disagreement doth breed a resolution spasme or some other most daungerous infirmitie in both Examples of antiquitie neede not we hauing too many that be moderne of our neare neighbours amongst which these tokens of murther IE SVIS ROYAL and IE SVIS GVISIAN haue wofully concluded their tragedie For conclusion to mainteine that the motions of Spaine issue from our actions is to make accent vpon these wordes I fauour the Spaniard which are no lesse to be forborne thē these I take part with Marzoco or I am a Guisian all foure by implication being of one nature In regard whereof that all subiects are to esteeme their naturall Prince as the Generall of God I would that those who haue not obserued the course of times should with the ancient French which esteemed all things lawful their kings did in fauor of the people humbly reuerence their Princes proceedings as his who standing for the publike benefite of his countrey is alwayes blamelesse though his pretenses to the ignorant multitude haue some shew of iniustice For how may he that leadeth a priuate life and neuer handled publicke affaires be able to reason in things meete lawfull or necessarie for gouernement the true knowledge of which drawing neere the diuine prouidence is not to be disputed in the schooles of Thersites vnlesse there be some Vlysses to moderate For who so attributeth the effectes of things present to causes next going before may be deceaued with him who not knowing his patients infirmity and finding neither oister shelles or the parings of apples by which he might coniecture the sick had surfeted but after spying a saddle vnder the bed feared not to wager his life that his patient had eaten a horse or more properly to ascribe the hostilitie of Spaine to the iniuries of our nation is to be no lesse mad then he who thought his phrensie happened by washing his head the day before in cold water For nothing gentlemen said I is plainer then that their naturall auarice and pride and not our iniuries haue furiously incited thē according to their embleme of Burgundie hauing two handes with a steele and flint stricking fire with these wordes Ante ferit quàm flamma micet to esteeme no law of societie or bond of nature whereby they may more securely oppresse all partes by violence and stealth This hath bene touched by many but very aptly by the expert and valiant knight Sir Roger VVilliams who hauing serued long time in their warres hath with quicke colours described their crueltie towardes their faithfull seruitours not being of their nation VVith these therefore that keepe no mediocritie it is most daungerous in matter of state to vse a way consisting in a meane the same being neither able to procure frendes or to propell a weake or feble enemie VVhich speaches ended PHILEMON in the behalfe of the rest which seemed by their silence desirous to depart answered well EPOENETVS the time rather requiring to consider what we ought to doe then what we haue done let both our nations to expresse the good affections of honest men haue in their standerds guidons and ensignes the deuise of a souldiours match burning with these wordes about the wreath al fine loial which spoken hee and the company departed with countenances promising the accomplishment and performance of great matters FINIS Lib. 4. Ilia Exod. cap. 24. sect 4. 7. Paradoxe troisiesme Flor. Hist. Sans. de vitis Tur. Reg. 2. cap. 1. Flor. Hist. Adelpho Act. 2. Home Lib. 2. Ilia