〈◊〉 legâ—… aliqâ—… obligarentur 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is aut institutis Ecclesia vel 〈◊〉 Râ—…manorum plusquam â—… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 â—…e 〈◊〉 rationabili 〈◊〉 qua fideles in vnitate amplius seruabantur eo quod tune fideli 〈◊〉 legislatore ipsos in ordine reducente 〈◊〉 in vâ—…itate seruante c. That is Albeit about the beginning of the Church other Bishops and Churches of beleeuers were not bound by any diuine or humane law to obey the mandates of the Church or Bishop of Rome rather then the contrary yet this profitable and reasonable custome preuailing by which beleeuers were better kept in vnitie because they wanted then a Christian Magistrate to reduce them to order and preferue them in vnitie therefore they were afterward bound as by a diuine law to this obedience in things honest and lawfull 11. But because the Popes and their flatterers did couer all their practiseâ—… with plâ—…nitudo 〈◊〉 as with a mist therfore he doth with great light of learning and truth dispell that mist This saith hâ—… is Loâ—…us 〈◊〉 â—…nde etiaÌ„ paralâ—…gismus quâ—… reges principantes â—…o singâ—…los coactiua 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 subiectos 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 trâ—…xit origineâ—… That is This is a Sophisme whence that Paralogisme drew his beginning by which they striue to draw Kings and Princes and all other vnder their subiection by coactiue Iurisdiction And therfore iâ—… he belaboreth exâ—…ctly and at full to open this fallacion of fulnesse of power the suâ—…e whereof is this By a pretended fulneâ—…e of power the Pope wiâ—…hout ground or reason onely led thereto by pride and ambition intruded vpon the right of Iesus Christ and vpon the right of the Church and vpon the right of Temporall Princes wresting all authority to himselfe this he calleth fulnes of power â—…or iâ—…by fulnes of power be vnderstood tâ—…at power wherby all men and all creatures are commanded and directed to what end the commauâ—…der will this power is giuen onely to Iesus Christ and to no other man according to that Scripture all power is giueâ—… vnto me in heauen and in â—…arth But if by fulnesse of power be vnderstood power to preach to excommunicate to binde to loose to interpret Scripture to determine controuersies this power is in the Church partly in Bishops partly in doctors partly in Councels and not more in the Pope then in another Bishop Last of all if by this fulnesse of power be vnderstood Soueraigne Iurisdiction coactiue then it is in Temporall Princes Marsiliuâ—… maketh moe parts hereof bâ—…t I draw him summarily and presume that to these three heads all that he saith may be reduced 12. And therefore whereas the Pope claimeth such â—… power intruding vpon the right of each of these he saith Ex vnâ—… 〈◊〉 in 〈◊〉 â—…ransiuit Romanâ—…s 〈◊〉 Thâ—…t is The Pope hath from one presumption passed into another The same Author declareth how the Popes proceeded in these their incroachings vpon Iurisdiction First saith he they made some constitutions to gouerne the Clergie then they proceeded by way of exhortâ—…tion intreaty to perswade the laitie to keepe fastes to abstaine from meats When they saw that laymen did willingly receiue suâ—…h obseruations theÌ„ they proceeded to ordaine the same things as laws to denounce excoÌ„municatioÌ„ against the transgrâ—…ssours thereof And all this was done saith he Suâ—… 〈◊〉 diuinâ—… culâ—…us speciâ—… That is Vnder a shewe of godlinâ—…sse and the worship of God The same Author addeâ—…h Cresâ—…ente autem 〈◊〉 ipsis appâ—… 〈◊〉 ampliâ—… domiâ—…di attendentibâ—…s deuotoâ—… fideliâ—… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ignauiaâ—… diuinâ—… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 qui ad â—…a 〈◊〉 sacerdoteâ—… indicebantur obligari credebanâ—… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 aeternâ—… praesumpseruâ—…t 〈◊〉 Episcopâ—… Romaâ—…i cum suo clericoruâ—… coetu â—…ligarchica quaedam edicta 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 actus 〈◊〉 c. That is But as the appetite of ruling farther continually increased in them when they sawe that deâ—…ote Christians were kept in feare with such proceedings through slothfulnesse and ignorance of Gods worship which Christians ignorant thought themselues bound vnder the paine of eternall damnation to all that was inioyned them of the Priests then the Bishops of Rome with their Clergie presuming further made certaine Oligarchicall Edicts concerning ciuill actions Thus saith hee the Bishoppe of Rome began first to practise expemptions And that hee might draw a number of the Laiety into the loue of those practises he extended these exemptions to diuers companies of Lay persons and so defrauded the Magistrate of due honour and obedience and brought in that confusion whereof the same Authour complaineth thus Hâ—…c est pestilentiae Italici regniradix origo ex qua cuncta scandala germinauerunt prodeunt c. Qua stante nunquamciuiles ibidem cessaâ—… discordiae pâ—…testatem enim hanc ad quam paulatim latenti prâ—…aricatione subintrauit ex consuetudine aut abusione verius dudum detinuit Rom. Episcopus eandem sibi per principem reuocari formidans merito propter commissos excessus creationeâ—… atque 〈◊〉 Rom. Principis omni maligna sollicitudiâ—… vitat That is This is the roote and fountaine of the pestilence which troubleth the Empire from whence all scandals growe and proceede and which standing ciuill discords shall neuer cease in Italy for the Pope fearing that this power may be reuoked by the Emperor and that deseruedly for the excesse committed therein into which power he hath by little and little stolne by secret preuarication of custome or to say more truely of abuse hauing holden it some while he hindreth the creation and promotion of the Emperor by all malice and spite Wherupon saith he some Popes haue broken out into such impudency as in their Decretals is to be seene that they aâ—…ouch that the Emperor is bound to them in an Oath of Alleageance as if the Emperour were vnder them subiected by coactiue Iurisdiction 13. Then Marsiliuâ—… hath discouered the reason why the Popes haue so much opposed themselues against the Emperors to be because they were affraid least the Emperours should call them to a reckoning for their Exemptions for the abuse of their excommunications for intruding themselues into the office of the ciuill Magistrate and taking a newe authority vpon themselues from themselues without warrant of the Emperour This is that thing which caused them to stirre so much against Emperours and at last to procure the decay of the Empire so much as at this day they haue made it so weake that now they are out of the feare thereof Other things for breuities sake I omit this is sufficient to vnderstand what reason learned men had then to withstand the Popes Iurisdiction This booke of Marsilius was neuer answered and hereafter is not like to be But Iohn the two and twentieth against whom this booke was intended did in stead of aunswering condemne this worthy Writer which thing was much more easie for him to doe §. II. William Occham and Michael Cezena 14. BVT the truth could not be suppâ—…ssed
inoleuerat tanta heresis That is Whom Dominicke did speedily ouercome by the helpe of Simon Monford for there was not so much neede of disputation as of armes that heresie was so rooted Then we vnderstand the end why Friars were instituted by their first and chiefe imployment they were founded in blood in treacherous practises against Princes for the seruice of the Pope Wherein wee behold the endes of such Councels as the Pope calleth and wherein he is President as the Councell of Lateran and the Councell of Trent For as vpon the time of holding the Lateran Councell the first Friars were ordained and allowed by the Pope so vpon the time of the Councell of Trent were the Iesuites confirmed to be an order by Pope Paul the third after both Councels great warres and bloodshed followed through Christendome wherein the Friars were the Popes instruments and the procurators of the warres at both times and euer since 27. As these first orders of Friars increased in number swarming like Locusts vnder the Popes protection he like an experienced Captaine prouidently ordered his troupes and set them to their seuerall taskes some to writing of books some to the practises of state against Princes By those that were set to write as Aquinas Scotus and such like the alterations of doctrines were brought into the Church of Rome first so that herein appeareth their full finall end in raising vp rebellions first against God and corrupting of the truth and then against Princes by impugning their soueraigne authoritie and Iurisdiction In both which practises the Friars take continuall direction from the Pope by whose power they were created by whose authoritie they stand from whose spirit they breath and for whose seruice they are deuoted and resolued to spend their breath and blood In these practises the Iesuites being the last brood striue to surpasse all other for their audacious corrupting of the truth and outragious interprises against the liues of Princes For which in the end they will vndoubtedly drawe vpon themselues the anger of God and of the Princes of Christendome I haue stayed the longer in these descriptions for the honour of the Iesuits that their descent and progenie may be knowen that we may behold the aduancers of the Popes Iurisdiction which Iurisdiction will the better appeare if the first and chiefe aduancers of it might be well knowen §. III. Of Oathes exacted by the Pope 28. ANother especiall meanes of aduauncing this Iurisdiction was practised by exacting Oathes which is also much practised now because by experience they finde great vse of it an Oath being the greatest bond of humane societie and the fittest meanes to ingage men throughly in any cause the first exacting of Oathes was from Archbishops and Bishops by which meanes their Allegeance was strangely withdrawen from their Soueraigne Princes Whereas then first princes for their owne safetie and for the safetie of their Countrey vsed to exact an Oath of Allegeance aswell of the Ecclesiasticall as Temporall subiects The Popes began to withdraw the Clergie from this obedience and Allegeance and so farre they preuailed that the Friars taught that the King of England was not lord of the Clergie but that the Pope was their lord as we haue declared from Ioh. Wiclife And now the Pope beginneth in these desperate dayes to forbidde them of the laity to take the Oath of Allegeance to their Soueraigne whereby as they began to steale away the hearts of the Clergie first from the true and lawfull obedience of their Soueraignes so now proceeding in the same course with the laity what will they leaue to Kings in the end And because this containeth an especiall mysterie of Iurisdiction therefore we thinke it needfull to be plainely opened 29. That Kings did out of dutie and Allegeance exact an Oath of their subiects euen of Bishops and had the same yeelded as a due homage to them and confirmed also by decrees of Councels it is well and worthily obserued of late by that booke written most learnedly and exactly intituled Tripliei nodo triplex cuneus Where this vse is confirmed from the practise of the fourth Toletan Councell held in the yeere sixe hundred and thirtie and from the fift Toletan Councell held about the same time And from the sixt Toletan Councell held in the yeere sixe hundred seuentie and sixe And from the tenth Toletan Councell gathered in the yeere sixe hundred ninetie and soure as also from the Councel of Aquisgrane in the yere eight hundred thirtie and sixe We may adde though it be needlesse some fewe and small obseruations thereto It appeareth that this practise of taking an Oath of Allegeance of subiects is drawen from the law of nature as necessary for the preseruation of States and it seemeth to be as auncient as the gouernement of States For Lycurgus the first founder of the State of Lacedemon hauing once well ordered that State by good lawes tooke an Oath of them all that they should preserue those orders till his returne from the Oracle that is alwayes If any thinke that this was not an Oath of Allegeance to the State I suppose it will be hard to distinguish betweene an Oath to preserue the lawes or to be true to the lawes and an Oath to be true to the State For it is certaine that the State of Lacedemon was preserued by those lawes in great honour and felicitie for the space of fiue hundred yeeres as the same Author reporteth Or as hee saith in another place for sixe hundred yeeres and vpon the breach of those lawes came in the ruine of that State as the same Author doth often obserue This declareth the antiquitie of this Oath as proceeding from the law of nature which yeeldeth this helpe to States for the necessarie preseruation of themselues For which cause it hath bene practised whensoeuer the State thought it needful for after the kings were driuen out of Rome L. Brutus and Collatinus Tarquinius being chosen Consuls Valerius Publicola grew so offended because himselfe was not respected in that choise that he retired from the Senate from all publick action to a priuate life This thing drewe the Senate into some suspicion of his Allegeance Wherfore Brutus the Consul called all the Senate to a solemne Oath of Allegance which Oath Valerius first of al others took most cheerefully Thus in the danger of the State they had recourse to this practise as the most lawfull and assured helpe of States And Scipio Africanus is much commended in the Romane stories for vsing this practise in the danger of that State for when hee vnderstood that some had a purpose to forsake the State hee caused them to take an Oath to bee true to the State and not to forsake it After the same manner was this Oath of Allegeance yeelded by the Church of the Iewes of old For Iosephus reporteth that Augustus Caesar required an Oath of Allegeance which Oath saith he all the
Now this is the crueltie of our Lord the King that is so much spoken of through the world against the Church this is that persecution that he raiseth Then it is an auncient complaint of these Romish Catholickes to call the iust lawfull godly and necessary execution of iustice crueltie and persecution this complaint hath beene euer since continued by them and most of all where there is least cause euen in the milde and mercifull gouernement of the late Queene of famous memory What crueltie did they impute to her What persecution to her Gouernement When they are not able to proue that one man was executed for Religion but for treason Which was so much the more dangerous because it was masked with the visard of Religion but Religion is not nor euer was the cause why our Kings punished the Popes Clerkes but onely Iurisdiction For when the Pope will stretch his Iurisdiction so farre as to include coactiue power and to exclude Kings from the gouernement of their Subiects drawing the Clergie from the obedience of their Kings to the obedience and subiection of the Pope drawing the subiects of other Kings vnder his subiection by an Oath of Allegiance and hereupon perswading al that will hearken to him that they may not yeelde an Oath of Alleageance to their owne Princes the Popes Iurisdiction being drawne to these points as now by the confession of themselues they are the question betweene the Pope and Christian Princes is not of Religion but of Iurisdiction of ciuill and coactiue Iurisdiction and the summe of all is this Whether the Princes of Christendome shall be free Princes or the Popes Vassals 82. By this which we haue declared we see the cause of our Kings iustified against the Archbishoppe and the exemption of Clerkes for which the Archbishoppe stroue and which since that time is claimed to be an especiall priuilege of that Church to be condemned by the chiefe of the Clergy by all the Bishops of that Prouince and that euen to the Pope himselfe Which thing the Bishoppes of the English Church would neuer haue done vnlesse they had beene well assured that the Kings cause was good and that the contrary opinion was a pernicious nouelty a late vpstart deuice in the Church But howsoeuer the Popes Clerkes pretended their new forged priuiledges yet the Kings of this land held still their olde course in the auncient manner of execution of iustice against them that offended And therefore Henry the second by law commaunded as Houeden saith that the Bishoppes of London and Norwich should be summoned that they might be before the Kings Iustices to answere for that they against the statutes of the kingdome did interdict the land of the Earle Hugh 83. This exemption of Clarks was a new practise in the time of Marsilius of Padua and not so new as pestiferous occasioning the ruine of States and being as a furie sent abroad from hell to disorder all gouernment For thus he complaineth of it Quibus non contenti sed saecularium contra Christi Apostolorum praeceptum appetentes fastigia in legum Lationes seorsum ab ijs quae Ciuium vniuersitatis sunt proruperuut Omnem clerum ab his decernentes exemptum ciuile sâ—…hisma principatuum supremoruÌ„ pluralitatâ—…m inducentes ex ipsis c. Haec pestilentiae Italici regni radix est origo ex qua cuncta scandala germinauerunt prodeunt qua stante nunquaÌ„ ciuiles ibidem cessabunt discordiae c. That is Not content herewith they the Popes seeking the honour of secular gouernement against the commandement of Christ and his Apostles haue taken vpon them the ordaining of Lawes and Canons other then such as serue for the common good They decree that all the Clergie are exempt from temporall Princes heereby inducing a pluralitie of Soueraignties c. This is the roote and spring of the pestilence of the Empire from whence all scandals grow and which standing ciuill discord shall neuer haue an end c. Thus were these exemptions then found and acknowledged to be the pestilence and ruine of all states especially of the Empire And his reason is well to be obserued because saith he it bringeth in Pluralitatem supremorum principatuum quam velut impossibilem humanae quieti demonstrauimus he proueth the plurality of Soueraignty a thing impossible to stand with the quiet and peaceable Gouernement of the world Now this exemption must eyther induce a plurality of Soueraignties when the Pope is one Soueraigne and the Prince another which is impossible in nature saith Marsilius or else it denieth the Kings Soueraignty to establish the Popes which thing can neuer bee indured by any Prince §. VI. Of the Popes power in giuing lawes 84. ANother thing whereby this new Iurisdiction of the Pope was so highly aduanced was giuing of Lawes to Princes and their subiects whereas before Princes had giuen lawes to him Marsilius in the wordes last cyted in the end of the last Paragraffe speaking of these laws saith They now break out into a practise of Iurisdiction taking vpon them to make lawes separat and distinct from such lawes as are for the common and publique good of all meaning the Canon lawes which because they intend onely the priuate aduancement of the Pope and not the publique good of the Church being also made onely by the authority of the Pope and not by the publique consent of the Church therefore he doth not account them lawes but Oligarchicall and tyrannicall Decrees these lawes are to be considered because they make so great a shew of the Popes Iurisdiction 85. The Church before was gouerned by Bishoppes and Metropolitanes in such order that the affaires of euery particular Diocesse were ordered by the Bishoppe or by a Synode of his calling the affaires of the Prouince were determined by the Metropolitane or by a Prouinciall Synode of his calling from an Episcopall Synode a man might appeale to a prouinciall Synode and from a Prouinciall Synode to a nationall but from a prouinciall or from a nationall Synode none might appeale to the Bishoppe of Rome for which thing diuers Decrees were made in prouinciall Synodes as we haue before declared As the Bishoppes were Gouernours so the lawes whereby they did then gouerne the Church were the Canons of auncient Councels especially of those foure most famous Councels of Nice Constantinople Ephesus and Chalcedon For that the Canons of these Councels were held for the lawes of the Church it appeareth by a Constitution of Iustinian extant in the fift Synode held at Constantinople wherein Iustinian the Emperour declareth that Aâ—…thimus was deposed from the Bishoprike of Constantinople by Pope Agapetus and a whole Synode with him consenting for that he had departed from the doctrines of those foure holy Synodes the Nicen the Constantinopolitan the Ephesian and the Chalcedonian The Emperor also declareth that he being deposed by the Church should be banished by him ioyning his
some Emperours haue giuen some â—…emporalities to Popes as 〈◊〉 gaâ—…e to Siluestâ—… wee must not thinke that they gaue that which was their owne but onely restored that which vniustly and tyrannically was taken from Popes These things are such that in the iudgement of all men that are not destitute of iudgment need no reâ—…utation He saith also in the same place Potestâ—… omnis 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 subâ—…legata respectu 〈◊〉 Papâ—… All power of Emperoâ—…s and Kings is to them delegated by the Popes power This is the Iurisdiction which is fought a temporall Iurisdiction ouer Princes this doctrine was deuised onely to maintaine the practise of the Popes excommunication And as this new and strange doctrine was found out for the defence of that new and strange practise so the manner of the defence is no lesse strange for he declareth that this Iurisdiction for which he pleadeth so much is not in the Pope as he is a Priest or Bishoppe but as he is a Prince It followeth then in his confession that this Iurisdiction is proper to Princes and not to Priests For thus he saith Papatus est nomen Iurisdictionis noâ—… ordinis That is The Papacy is a name of Iurisdiction and not of Order And againe Potest Papa habere omnem potestatem pertinentem ad Papam tamen â—…arere potestatâ—… ordinis That is The Pope may haue all Iurisdiction beloâ—…ging to the Pope and yet be no Priest This new doctrine teacheth great wonders that the Pope may haue all Iurisdiction and bee no Priest The Iesuites and our owne Popish Countrie-men crye out against vs for giuing Iurisdiction to such as are no Priests but onely temporall Princes It will be hard for them to accuse vs and defend their owne Doctors 4. Because this manner of maintaining the Popes Iurisdiction is grosse to set him aboue temporall Princes in temporall Iurisdiction therefore diuers since this time haue sought to mollifie this harsh manner of speech by a distinction which they haue found out of late betweene Power direct ouer Princes and indirect These men say that the Pope hath power to depose Princes not directly but indirectly in respect of some spirituall good But when they come to the application of this distinction it appeareth nothing but a Miste to dazzle the eyes of men wherein there is no simplicity or truth Bellarmine is one of those that admitteth this Distinction vpon which Distinction graunted by Cardinall Bellarmine Master Blackwel thinketh he hath a good ground for taking the Oath of Alleageance And when Bâ—…llarmine reproueth him for that he answereth him by his owne Distinction a reasonable answere aâ—…d yet such is the Mist of this Distinction that you can hardly tell whether of these two speaketh more cunningly For Bellarmine saith that the Pope hath power to depose Princes not directly but in respect of some spirituall good but when Master Blackwell saith that in his particular case the spirituall good of Catholickes was respected This Bellarmine will denie for he will say that no priuate man must be iudge of this spirituall good but onely the Pope Now let the Pope bee Iudge and then this Distinction is as good as nothing for whensoeuer the Pope deposeth a Prince or dischargeth his subiects from their Oath of Alleageance he will iudge it to be for some spirituall good So that in this vnderstanding and sense of Bellarmine there is no reall difference betweene direct power and indirect 5. In like sort when Master Blackwell saith the Pope hath power to depose Princes indirectly or in respect of some spirituall good and iudgeth the taking of the Oath of Alleageance to respect a spirituall good end giuing this reason because the refusal of this Oth wold bring vpon vs the ruines of Catholicke families the lamentable extirpation of the whole Catholicke estate among vs We say the case of this man and of those that depend vpon him is much better then the case of them that refuse the Oath but yet to drawe them a little further into the loue of obedience let vs note the imperfection of his defence We commend his action and speake here onely of his manner of defending it for the reason that draweth him to obedience and to take this Oath is not a conscience of that commaundement of God which commaundeth obedience to Magistrates but the danger of Catholickes and of himselfe which proueth an indirect obedience So that in pleading for a verball distinction of power direct or indirect they descry a reall distinction of obedience direct or indirect Now there is not much difference betweene these three opinions of them that holde the Popes direct power and his indirect power and that say his power is to respect the present danger of the Catholickes For whatsoeuer Triumphus bringeth vnder his direct power that Cardinall Bellarmine will reduce vnder indirect power so that though they differ in the manner how this power commeth to the Pope directly or indirectly yet they both are agreed that the Pope hath this power and this is also Master 〈◊〉 iudgement For remooue the danger of his Catholickes and then he hath nothing to say against this power of the Pope so that the question is not how he hath it but whether he hath this power or not Vnto which question all Romance Catholickes answer affirmatiuely and we negatiuely 6. Thus did those learned men conceiue the question that first began to handle it these later distinctions came in by such as would hide themselues in a miste and seeme to say something when they say nothing Now let vs declare the 〈◊〉 of those men that first came to the handling of this question of the Popes power after that it was fully made knowen to the world by the Popes decrees and the writings of 〈◊〉 Triâ—…phus The first occasion that set men on worke vpon the studâ—…e of this question was partly as I haue said the writings of 〈◊〉 but this occasion was â—…otoriously promoted by the vniust vexâ—…ions which the Popes offered to Lodoâ—…icke Duke of Bauâ—…re Emperour in prosecuting of their pretended Iurisdiction ouer Kings and Emperours This Emperour being persecuted by the Popes as before wee haue declared was desirous to know the iudgements of the best learned men that then liued in the world who with 〈◊〉 did search out and by learning did ouâ—…rthrowe this new sophiâ—…ent right The chiefe of them who then wrote â—…gainst the Popes Iurisdiction was Maâ—…sitius 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 Ocâ—… Of these and of some other that in one pâ—…rt or other haue conâ—…uted this Iurisdiction of Popes I am now to speake in order §. I. Obserâ—…ations out of the writings of Marsilius Pat. against the Popes Iurisdiction 7. MArsiliâ—…s about the yeere of Christ one thousand three hundred twentie and foure set ouâ—… that booke which he Intituleth 〈◊〉 pacis wherein hee shaketh the rotten and ruinous reasons of such as maintained this Iurisdiction because the booke is written with
and Kings by their office must call Councâ—…ls Secondly that their office is likewise by coactiue power to see the things maintained and obserued which are defined in general Councels 12. Hitherto then haue we found the Soueraigne Iurisdiction alwayes in Christian Magistrates and neuer in the Bishop of Rome How then commeth the Bishop of Rome to this practise of Iurisdiction which now he claimeth Let vs here consider one Pageant of theirs which will declare the first claime and beginning of Iurisdiction which they haue so much increased since The first attempt was to winne Iurisdiction ouer Bishops the second was to get the same power ouer Kings and by that meanes ouer all These we meane to open with as much breuitie as we can and the matter will beare First then to bring Bishops of other Nations vnder their power a shamelesse deuise was plotted by the Bishop of Rome discried and reiected by the auncient Fathers that then liued but yet so closely followed afterward by the Popes that in the end it preuailed I will declare the storie as it is deliuered by their owne writers who haue collected the tomes of the Councels 13. The sixt Councell of Carthage was gathered in the yeere of our Lord foure hundred and twentie against the heresie of Pelagius it lasted sixe yeeres and more In it were gathered two hundred and seuenteene Bishops among whom was that worthy Father Saint Augustine and others of famous note as Prosper Orosius and diuers other of great vertue and learning Aurelius Bishop of Carthage Metropolitan of Affrica was chiefe In the time of this Councell three Bishops of Rome succeeding one another mooued great contention and quarell with the Fathers of this Councell for Iurisdiction which the Popes then began to claime affirming that they had Iurisdiction ouer the Church of Affrica which thing these Fathers of this Councell vtterly denied the contention began vpon this occasion 14. Apiarius a Priest of the Church of Sicca in Affrica was for his infamous and scandalous life excommunicated not onely by Vrbanus Bishop of Sicca but by a whole Synode of Bishops met together This fellow thus censured in Affrica fled to Zozimus Bishop of Rome to him he complained of wrong that the Bishops of Affrica had done him as he said Zozâ—…mus without examination of the cause vndertooke to maintaine him and admitted him to the Communion After this vnderstanding that the Bishops of Affrica were gathered in their Synode he sendeth to them Faustinus Bishop of Potentia and with him two Priests Philip and Asellus Them hee chargeth to defend the cause of Apiarius to cause the Synode of Affrica to recciue him to their Communion to excoÌ„municate Vrbanus Bishop of Sicca or else to call him to Rome vnlesse hee will reforme that is vndoe all that he had done against Apiarius Further he commaundeth them to draw the Councell to yeeld to the Iurisdiction of the Bishop of Rome and to acknowledge it lawfull for any Bishop or Priest to appeale from the sentence of their Metropolitan to Rome he commaundeth them also to signifie that he sent his Legate into Affrica who might vnderstand the causes of appellants that were grieued To effect this thing the better he chargeth them to declare that the Nicen Councell hath giuen this Iurisdiction to the Bishops of Rome for proofe hereof he deliuereth vnto them in writing a counterfeited Canon of the Nicen Councell 15. Faustinus comming to Affrica with these instructions and being admitted into the Councell declared that he had from Zozimus a Commission which he called Commonitorium and withall he declared the Iurisdiction of the Bishop of Rome confirmed by a Canon of the Nicen Councell Aurelius Prosident of the Councel answered let this Commission first be read which our brethren haue brought hereupon Daniel the notary reade and recited the Commission thus Zozimus Bishop of Rome to our brother Faustinus Bishop to our fons Philip Asellus Priests this businesse you know you are to doe all things as if our presence were with you nay because it is with you and the rather seeing you haue both our expresse commaund and the words of the Canons which for more full assurance we haue added to this Commission For thus most beloued brethren it is decreed in the Councell of Nice concerning the appellation of Bishops And then forsooth the forged Canon os the Councell of Nice followeth thus Placuit autem vt si Episcopus accusatus fuerit iudicauerint congregati Episcopi regionis ipsius de gradu suo deiecerint eum appellasse Episcopus videatur confugerit ad beatissimum Ecclesiae Romanae Episcopum valuerit audiri iustum putauerit vt reuocetur examen sâ—…ribere his Episcopis dignetur qui infinitima propinqua prouincia sunt vt ipsi diligentur omnia requirant iuxta fideÌ„ veritatis definiant Quoâ—… si is qui râ—…gat causam suam iterum audiri deprecatione sua mouerit Episcopum Romaâ—…uÌ„ vt è Latere suo presbyterum mittat erit in potestate Episcopi Romani quid velit quid existimet si decreuerit mittendos esse qui presentes cum Episcopis iudicent habentes authoritatem eius à quo destinati sunt erit in suo arbitrio Si vero crediderit sufficere Episcopos vt neggtio terminum imponant faciot quod sapientissimo consilio suo iudicauerit That is We thought good that if a Bishop be accused and the Bishops of that Prouince haue giuen sentence and deposed him if this Bishop seeme to appeale and flie to the most blessed Bishop of Rome and desire to be heard â—…f he thinke good to reuoke the sentence it may please him to write to those Bishops which are in that Prouince that they may diligently search the matter and iudge it truely But if he that moueth his cause may be heard againe shall by his petition intreat the Bishop of Rome to send a Legat from his side it shall be in the power of the Bishop of Rome to doe what hee thinketh best And if he decree to send some who with the Bishops of the Prouince may be present to iudge hauing authoritie from him from whom they are sent it shall be in his pleasure And if he thinke that the Bishops of that Prouince may suffice to end the businesse let him doe whatsoeuer in his most wise Councell he iudgeth best Before I proceed in this narration let some things of note bee obserued First the Bishops of Rome were now growen from the honest and godly conuersation of their Auncestours to admirable impudency that durst suborne a Canon of the Nicen Councell and publish their owne shame in the sight of the Church then and leaue an eternall monument thereof to the world for euer extant in publike Councels Secondly the ground of the Iurisdiction of the Bishop of Rome is forgerie famously attempted and famously conâ—…icted at that present time And yet this practise
magnoperè prouidendum est â—…e in his Deus offendatur per quos religio Christiâ—…na consistere debet Marsilius Patauin hath a testimony which if it were of doubtlesse authority might moue some doubt For hee saith that Pope Simplicius did forbid Inuestitures to bee taken at a lay hand albeit saith he by that decree it is manifest that his predecessours exhibiting all due and humble reuerence to Princes did vse to take Inuestitures from Lay-men It is manifest by this that Marsilius had seene a decree of Simplicius to this purpose Which if it were the true decree of Simplicius then were Inuestitures acknowledged the Princes right long before Charles but if that decree were forged as doubtlesse it was with many moe Let the Romane forgery be acknowledged and the Masters of that mint knowne Howsoeuer it is out of question that Inuestitures were acknowledged the auncient right of the Empire by Haâ—…rian yeelded to Charles graunted also by diuers Popes as is apparant by their expresse confessions of whome some were more auncient then Charles the great and some since 47. The reason why it should belong to temporal Princes is so great that it moued Popes Emperours and Kings to enter into the greatest and hottest contentions the one to purchase a new title the other to retaine their auncient right For vntill the time of Constantine wee finde little or no mention at all of these things because the Iurisdiction was then vnmixt this power coactiue was not then practised by the gouernours of the Church But when Constantine had enriched the Church giuen place and authority to Bishops adding vnto that power which they had a new part of Iurisdiction which they had not before as we haue declared And by this example of Constantine other Emperours and Kings adding thereto so that a temporall Lordship was added in the end to a Bishoprick which thing was first instituted by Otho the second Emperour in the opinion of Cardinall Cusanus For writing of this Otho hee saith Câ—…edidit perpetuis temporibus imperio subiectis pâ—…cem darâ—… posse si temporalia dominia â—…am Rom. Ecclesiae quam alijs adiungerentur cum certi seruiâ—…ij obseruatione tunc enim cultus diuinus augmentaretur religionem in magnam reuerentiam exaltandam credidit quando sanctissimi Episcopi magnae potentiae alijs Principibus intermiscerentur A mixt Iurisdiction thus being committed to Bishops Then was it good reason that Bishops hauiâ—…g receiued such an externall coactiue power from temporall Princes that these Princes should bee well secured of their fidelity to them for so much of their authoritie as they receiued from such Princes 48. This example of gouernment the first Christian Princes set vp in the Church drawne from the gouernement of the Church of Iewes as we haue said so that Christian Kings haue the same power ouer Bishops which the godly Kings of Israell had ouer the Priests in that state From this ground riseth Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction which being taken by the first Christian Emperours from the example of the state of Israell was continued by them and their successours without question or contradiction till the time of Hildebrand For Gregory the first speaking of this auncient right which Emperours had in his time and before declareth that this right of theirs in placing of Bishops was an order so auncient so established that the contrary thereof was neuer knowne or heard of in the Church And therefore writing to Constantia Augustâ—… he saith Salonitâ—… ciuitatis Episcopus me ac responsali meo nesciente ordinatus est Eâ—… facta res est quae sub nullis anterioribus principibus eâ—…nit Quod egâ—… audiens ad eundem praeuaricaâ—…orem qui 〈◊〉 ordinatus est protinus misi vt omnâ—…no missarum 〈◊〉 celebrarâ—… nullo 〈◊〉 praesumeret nisi 〈◊〉 à serenissimis Dominis 〈◊〉 si hâ—… fieri ipsi iuâ—…sissent That is The Bishop of Sâ—…lone was ordained without the knowledge of my selfe and my Chaplaine And that thing is done which neâ—…er hapned vnder any of the former Princes Which when I vnderstoode I sent presently to that 〈◊〉 which was inordinately ordained that he should not in any case presume to celebrate Masse vnlesse first I might vnderstand of my most serene Lords the Emperours whither they commaunded this Which testimonie â—…is also cited Desâ—… 63. to proue that the Emperors ought to chuse Bishops as Hadrian acknowledged the right to Charles and Lâ—…o to Otho Gregory saith that the Bishop who iâ—…truded vpon that Church not onely without his knowledge but also without the consent of the Emperour should not be suffered to exercise his function before that he might vnderstand whether the Bishoppe had the Emperoâ—…s consent herein he saith also that this practise of intruding without the Emperours consent was a thing neuer practised vnder any Prince before that time Facta res est quae sub nullis anterioribus principibus euenit For tâ—…at these wordes are referred to that intrusion without the Emperours knowledge it is euident because he saith not that this was neuer practised vnder any Pope but not practised vnder any Prince and that he will send to the Prince to know whether the Prince commanded this thing and therefore hee calleth him a Praeuaricator that presumed to crosse this auncient right of Princes Then he condemneth a number of his successours for Prâ—…uaricators Gregory knew well what he wrote hauing the perfect Register of things of this kinde done betweene the time of Constantine and his time therefore his testimonie maketh faire and full euidence that this was the right of Christian Magistrates long before Pope Hadrian did yeeld it to Charles The same thing is also witnessed by the twelfth Toletan Counsell which was hâ—…ld in the time of Pope Agatho in the yeare sixe hundred and eightie that is long before that time wherein Hadrian yeelded this right to Charles as the olde right of the Empire 49. But Cardinall Baroniuâ—… striken with a strange fury in this question of Inuestitures ventureth vpon a new and desperat course denieth all Antiquities and bringeth a more shamelesse handling to these things then euer was brought by any man before him He denieth the whole with all the parts of it that is reported of Hadrian yeelding this to Charles but most of all he breaketh all rules of patience and moderation against Sigebert because among many he also hath reported this Storie Sigeâ—…ert saith he like an Impostor first deuised and forged this tale that Pope Hadrian yeelded Inuestitures to Charles and this he wrote in the fauour of a sâ—…hismaticall Emperour Why Baronius should put vpon Sigeâ—…ert Imposture and subornation we see no reason vnlesse it be that he thinketh that if 〈◊〉 could be put to silence herein there could no proofe appeare in all Antiquity for Inuestitures If this beâ—… his meaning he is much decâ—…iued for before this word Inuestiture was in vse the Princes right was alwaies acknowledged Long before
place to Gregory the third who succeeded him This Pope as soone as euer he was chosen by the consent of the Romane Clergy depriued Leo the third Emperour from the Empire and from the communion of the faithfull for the same cause to wit for defacing Images which were set vp in Churches to be worshipped This was the ground of the Popes proceeding against the Emperour which is to be obserued By this wee see the state of Rome cleane changed for whereas the Emperours at the first were persecutours and the Bishops of Rome were such as suffered for righteousnesse Now had they changed places for the Popes were become persecutours and the Emperours were such as suffered for righteousnesse For what was the Emperour Leo his fault in breaking downe and defacing Images after that hee found that diuine worship was exhibited to them other then that so much commended zeale of Ezekias in breaking downe the brasen Serpent so that if we looke vpon this fact of the Emperour which was the occasion why the Popes so proceeded against him there can nothing appeare but the Popes persecution and the Emperours suffering for righteousnesse Pope Gregory the third after this called a Synod in Rome wherein the worship of Images was established and all excommunicated that held the contrary All Italy saith Onuphrius fell away from the obedience of Leo the Emperour with the City of Rome and other Westerne parts of the Empire which were before subiect to the Emperour excepting Sicily and a part of Liguria and a little corner of Calabria All this the Emperour lost at once by the practise of Popes 99. Now because wee consider these beginnings of the Popes persecutions for he began with the Emperour whom thus he driued out of Italy putting him from all gouernment in Rome and after tooke vp his place and gouernement let vs heere remember an auncient tradition of the auncient Fathers who wrote before these times with freedom For they are al resolued vpon this as vpon an Apostolicall tradition that Antichrist must driue the Emperour out of the gouernement of Rome and Italy and take vp his place and seate Tertullian doth often repeate this sentence Romanus status cedet Antichristo That is The Romane Empire must giue place to Antichrist And in another place he saith Qui nunc tenet teneat donec de medio fiat Quis nisi Romanus status That is Hee that now with-holdeth shall with-hold till he be taken out of the way Who is that the Romane Empire And vpon those words of the Apostle He that now with-holdeth shall with-hold vntill he be taken away The auncient Fathers writing doe with an admirable consent agree vpon this that the thing which the Apostle saith did with-hold and should with-hold for a time was the Romane Empire For the Empire of Antichrist must be raised vp in the same place where that Empire stood that is in Rome And therefore Hierome writing of those wordes of the Apostle except there come a departing first that that man be disclosed saith Nisi venerit discessio primum vt omnes gentes quae Romano Imperio subiacent recedant abeis That is Vnlesse a departing first come that all the Nations which now are subiect to the Empire of Rome may depart from that subiection Therefore he saith that the Apostle left this tradition which he thought not good to commit to writing Remember you not that when I was with you I tolde you of these things saith the Apostle If any man aske why the Apostle thought good rather to commit this thing to their memory then to writing to this the same Author Saint Hierome aunswereth in the same place Si apertè audacterque dixisset non veniet Antichristus nisi prius Romanum deleatur Imperium iusta causa persecutionis in orientem tunc Ecclesiam consurgere videbatur That is If Saint Paul had said plainly and boldly Antichrist shall not come vnlesse the Romane Empire be first destroyed this might haue ministred a iust cause of persecution to the Church then rising Then the Apostle would not speake this thing directly for feare of drawing a persecution vpon the Church but committed it to their memories Remember you not that when I was yet with you I told you If any man demaund this question why then doe you admit some Apostolicall traditions I answer 100. Let these two limitations be remembred and then I know not why Apostolicall traditions may not bee admitted First it must haue an euident ground in the Scripture Secondly it must haue the consenting testimonie of auncient Fathers confirming it to be an Apostolicall tradition These two conditions are both kept in this particular which now I speake of and in the baptising of Infants But to take a tradition from the bare testimony of any Church without a ground of Scripture and the testimonie of the ancient Fathers bearing witnesse that it was an Apostolicall tradition this wee vtterly refuse as vnwarrantable Concerning this particular the rest of the Fathers yeeld the like consent to these Ambrose saith Non prius veniet Antichristus quam Regni Romani fiat defectio Augustine saith Quidam putant hec de Imperio dictum fuisse Romano proptereà Paulum Apostolum non â—…d aperte scribere voluisse ne calumniam videlicet incurreret quasi Romano Imperiomalè optauerit And in the same place Tantum qui modo tenet teneat donec de medio tollatur non absurdè de ipso Romano Imperio creditur Another of the auncients saith thus Vt qui tenet nunc teneat donec de medio fiat Donec Regnum quod nunc tenet de medio auferatur priusquam Antichristus reueletur Iohn Chrysostome and Oecumenius summing his words say thns writing vpon that Scripture 2. Thess. 2. Solum est qui modo retinet Thronus videlicet Regnum Romanorum quodnunc impedimento est donec cesset finemque accipiat â—…uncreuelabitur iniquus ille hoc est Antichristus Vbi enim Imperium Rom. fuerit dissolutum tunc Antichristus rebellione irruet ac obtinere conabitur non hominum solum verum Dei Imperium Romanorum autem Imperium ipse Antichristus perfectè abolebit Quemadmodum 〈◊〉 Medorum Imperium à Babylonijs dissolutum est Babyloniorum à Persis Persarum quoque à Macedonibus Macedonum a Romanis it a Romanorum ab Antichristo Antichristi à Domino nostro That thing which withholdeth is the Romane Empire which now stayeth the matter till it cease and come to an end Then shall that wicked man be reuealed that is Antichrist For when the Romane Empire shall be destroyed then shall Antichrist by rebellion inuade and shall seeke to draw to himselfe not onely the power of men but of God also And Antichrist shall vtterly make an end of the Romane Empire For as the Empire of the Medes was destroyed by the Babylonians and that of the Babylonians by the
time greeuously troubled and vexed for want of the Emperors presence and had twise ouerthrown Ruperi or as some call him Robert King of Sicily the son of Charles whence grewe a new vexation of Italy betweene these two Pâ—…inces and as Platina saith the blame was laid vpon Clement who had called the Emperour with an Armie into Italy hee came to Rome for the Emperiall Crowne as Clement had inuited him thereto But because the Popes must bee alwaies like themselues Clement first denied his Coronation afterward hee consented vpon condition that Henry should take an Oath of Alleageance to the Pope This the Emperour refused as being a thing strange and without example Heere is descried an other end of these excommunications the Popes purpose to bring Kings and Emperours vnder them in respect of temporall Iurisdiction therefore they required of Emperours an Oath of Alleageance Clement the fift in one of his Canons maketh a long processe to proue that Henry tooke an Oath of Alleageance and that such an Oath is due to the Pope from Emperours 140. Clement pursuing his hatred against Henry aduanced the Title of Robert to Sicily whom the Emperour had by an ordinary processe of law condemned for Treason and declared an enemy to the Empire The Popes exception against Henry was that the Kingdome of Sicily belonged not to the Empire but he alleaged saith Platina that it was the Popes right to bestow the Kingdome of Sicily on this side and beyond Pharus vpon whom he pleased or to take it from whom hee would hence began great stirres to grow betweene the Pope and Emperor The Emperour pursuing his right brought an Armie into Italy and comming to Bonauentum his purpose was there to rest himselfe a few daies and to betake himselfe to prayer and fasting and other good workes that his lawfull labours and purposes might be blessed of God intending on the feast of the assumption to take the holy Sacrament The Bishoppe of Trent his Confessour was absent at that time being sent to Pope Clement but there was one sent backe in his roome a Iacobin Friar of S. Dominicks Order suborned for to worke a feate this man at that time administring the Sacrament hauing mingled Adamantin dust which is thought to be the strongest poyson in the flower whereof the Eucharist was made gaue it so prepared to the Emperour the poyson was so strong that the Emperour presently perceiued the danger and when the Masse was ended he called the Friar and said to him O Sir depart quickly for if my seruants shall knowe what a mischiefe you haue done vpon me you should die a miserable death but God forgiue you And so the Friar escaped and the Emperour died Lodouicus Bauarus 141. AFter the death of Henry the seuenth the Princes Electors were at variance for a successour some were for Frederiâ—…ke Duke of Austria others for Lodouicâ—… Duke of Bauare Iohn the two and twentieth Pope apprehended the occasion to dash one of these Princes against the other First he reiected Fredericâ—… with great contumely for when Fredericke had sent a Bishoppe to moue the Pope to ratifie his Election and the Bishoppe eloquently declared the Nobility of Fredericke and his valiant Progenitours vsing that speech Fortes crâ—…antur fortibus bonis the Pope with Pontificall arrogancy answered that Solomon the wisest man that euer was begot a most foolish sonne Against Lodouicke likewise hee pretended a quarrel for that he tooke more vpon him then belonged to his place and sometimes seeming to fauour the one and sometimes the other at last he promised Fredericke that hee would make him Emperour if hee would bring an Army into Italy to reueng him of Maphaeus and of his sonnes called Vicounts By this means great warres were raised vp in Italy and in Germany the two Princes Lodouicke and Fredericke met also in a battell fought from Sunne rising to Sunne setting wherein Lodouicke had the victory Fredericke was taken prisoner 142. Whereupon Pope Iohn without lawfull processe excommunicated Lodouicke in his Consistory at Auinion and declared him to be schismaticall hereticall and rebellious against the Church and depriued not onely Fredericke himselfe of all his Dominions as much as in him lay but depriued also all Clerkes that should giue him councell or aide Against this excommunication the Emperour appealed the forme of which Appellation is to be well obserued for albeit some write that he appealed from the Pope mis-informed to the Pope truly foâ—…d and to a generall Councell yet this is but the relation of such as fauoured the Popes Iurisdiction thinking that no appeale could be made from the Pope simply And therefore no relation of others can satisfie vs in this point so well as the very authenticke writ of Lodouicke himselfe wherein hee declareth his appeale which writ or declaration is set downe at large in Naucler from whence I would obserue some things which the Emperour declareth concerning the Popes Iurisdiction for therein he toucheth many points of his Iurisdiction and taketh exception against such partes of Iurisdiction which the Pope claimed partly in preiudice of the temporall Magistrate partly in preiudice of the Church For the question of Iurisdiction was better studied by learned men in the time of this Emperor then euer it was since 143. Lodouick then vnderstanding by men of greate learning in humane and diuine lawes which that age brought forth that the Pope had incroached vpon the right of temporall Princes and vpon the Iurisdiction of the Church and that hee ought to be gouerned iâ—… temporall affaires by the Emperour in spirituall affaires by the Church appealed from the Pope to a generall Councel and to the Catholicke Church thus the Emperour declareth his appeale appellauimus ad futurum generale Concilium ad sanctam Catholicam Ecclesiam This was done in an Assembly held at Franckfort published as a Decree against the Processes of Iohn the two and twentieth which Decree though it be somewhat large yet because it conteineth the iust claime of the temporall Magistrate against the pretended Iurisdiction of the Pope I must draw at least the summe of it to giue some satisfaction to the Reader He declareth the Popes claime for he claimed that hee had temporall Iurisdiction ouer Princes that the imperiall power was from the Pope that he that is chosen King of the Romanes hath no Iurisdiction by his sole Election vntill he be annointed consecrated and crowned that in temporall matters the Pope hath a fulnesse of power This was first the Popes claime whereunto the Emperour answereth That this standeth against the auncient Canons of the Church against law and against reason Hee cyteth for this diuers Canons to proue that the Emperour hath not his power from the Pope but from God alone Against each of the foresaid Positions he cyteth diuers Canons out of the Decrete of Gratian. Secondly Pope Iohn the two and twentieth obiected against the Emperour that hee the
personis id intelligendum est non de vniuersali Ecclesia quae saepe obedientiam iustis de causis Romanis Pontificibus subiraxit vt Marcellino Anastasio Liberio Ioha 12. Benedict 9. Benedicto 13. Iohanni 23. That is That is to be vnderstood of particular Churches persons not of the Vniuersall Church which many times vpon iust occasions hath withdrawen obedience from the Bishops of Rome as for example from Marcellinus Anastasius Liberius Iohn the twelfth Benedict the ninth Benedict the thirteenth Iohn the twentie three They haue in like sort concluded that the Popes Gouernment in the Church is to be admitted not that he rule at his pleasure but according to the doctrine of Saint Peter Ut ipse Ecclesiam Dei salubriter regat non quidem vt pro libito voluntatis suae cuncta peragere velit spreâ—…is canonibus sacrorum conciliorum sed iuxta beatiss Petrâ—… doctrinam sic regat non vt dominans in clero sed vt formafactus gregis Romanus enim Pontifex est vniuersalis Ecclesiae minister non Dominus That is That he may soundly rule the Church of God not that he should doe all things according to the lust of his owne will reiecting the Canons of holy Councels but according to the doctrine of Saint Peter let him so rule not as a lord ouer the Lords inheritance but as examples to their flockes for the Bishop of Rome is the Minister of the Vniuersall Church and not the Lord. They haue concluded that if this Iurisdiction bee graunted to the Pope which he claimeth aâ—…d which his flatterers pretend for him that by this meanes the way is laid wide open for Antichrist Aperite oculos videte qualis ex hoc daretur ingressus Antichristo That is Open your eyes and behold what an entrance by this meanes would be made for Antichrist So that they who yeeld any authoritie and reuerence to these Councels must needs acknowledge that the Popes Iurisdiction is laid downe in the dust 47. Now let Bellarmine come with his fine distinctions and tell vs that these Councels are partly confirmed partly reiocted partim confirmata partim reprobata these be pleasant heads that can take of these Councels what pleaseth them and reiect all that is against them but let them collude with their owne consciences as they list they are not able to answere that which we vrge or any way to shift vs off for wee doe not vrge these conclusions as decrees of Councels though against them they may iustly stand for such but wee doe not produce them to that end but onely to declare the religion sense and iudgement of Christendome what it was at this time and before what was the doctrine of the Church concerning Iurisdiction What the wisest the most learned and best men in Christendome then taught What was the iudgement of the Church of Rome then This is euidently declared by these Councels and that we may vrge no more but this by this wee haue enough to proue that the Church of Rome then stood fully against the Popes Iurisdiction If they tell vs that Eugenius and they who followed him was the Church and not these that were gathered in Basil I aunswere this doth more and more confirme that which I haue obserued betweene the Church of Rome on the one side and the Pope with his flatterers on the other side who albeit they haue gotten the vpper hand by force and fraud yet let them know the basenesse of their birth and progeny they are but a late vpstart generation beginning when Friars began lifted vp by the winde which themselues did raise for increasing the Popes pride crossed and contradicted yea refuted and condemned by the learned and godly that liued in the Church of Rome neuer fully preuailing before the Councell of Trent Then let them not demaund of vs such fâ—…iuolous questions where was our Church before M. Luther for we are able to shew both our Church and their Church the antiquitie and not interrupted continuance of the one and the base vpstart and late rising of the other §. V. Iohn Gerson 48. HAuing thus farre declared the iudgement of the Church of Rome assembled in diuers Councels now let vs consider how in particular the learned men of these ages stood affected in this question and who they were that tooke part with these Councels to aduance the authoritie of the Church aboue the Pope for they who followed the Pope in this faction were onely Friars and flatterers but on the other side were these as then the great lights of Christendome for learning that I may of many remember a few 49. First Iohn Gerson a man of great authoritie in the Councell of Constance who hath written diuers bookes wherein he preferreth the authority of a Councell before the Popes authoritie and speaketh much otherwise of Iurisdiction then the Court of Rome vseth now to speake His booke De potestate Ecclesiastica was pronounced and approued in the Councell of Constance in the yeere of Christ one thousand foure hundred and seuenteene as in the end thereof appeareth from whence I will obserue some things declaring his iudgement in our question of Iurisdiction First he describeth that spirituall power which Christ hath left to his Church thus Potestas Ecclesiastica est potestas quae à Christo supernatur aliter specialiter collata est suis Apostolis discipulis ac eoruÌ„ successoribus legitimis vsque ad fineÌ„ saeculâ—… â—…d aedificationeÌ„ Ecclesiae militantis secunduÌ„ leges Euangelicas pro 〈◊〉 faelicitatis aeternae That is Ecclesiasticall power is a power supernaturally especially giuen by Christ to his Apostles and Disciples and their lawfull successors vnto the end of the world for the edification of the Church Militant according to the Euangelicall lawes for the obteining of eternall life This power we acknowledge with Gerson nay with all the auncients who speake no otherwise of the power which Christ hath committed to his Church But then we wish that our aduersaries might vnderstand how they wander in ignorance and confusion confounding this power which is spirituall executed secundum leges Euangelicas with that power which is coactiue and executed secundum leges Canonicas It is their common manner to confound these things and thereby to perplexe themselues and their readers but of all that euer I read he surpasseth who calleth himselfe the Catholike diuine for confused vnlearned handling of these things Then the power which Christ left to his Church is practised secundum leges Euangelicas this is the true power of the Church But our question hath beene altogether of Iurisdiction coactiue executed not secundum leges Euangelicas therefore not giuen by Christ to his Church but belonging to such lawes to whom all coactâ—…ue power peculiarly belongeth 50. Of this coactiue power the same Gerson saith thus Potestas Ecclesiastica Iurisdictionis in foro exteriori est potest as Ecclesiastica
reward that is reserued for you you will commaund that a Synode may bee gathered Another part of the office of a Prince is saith he Confirmare custodire in concilijs 〈◊〉 which thing hee proueth by diuerse auncient authorities and concludeth that Emperours haue euer had this authoritie Hee saith that in this thing hee had made diligent search and had found this practise continued in all generall Councels vntill the eight Synode inclusiuely In which search saith hee I finde by the acts of all generall Councels aswell in Chalceon as in Constantinople Nice Ephesus that either the Emperour was present in person or some iudges his Vicegerents and those not aboue twentie seldome fifteene but when the Emperour himselfe was present in person I finde saith he that hee was alwayes Presedent of the Councell no other secular Prince hath right to be present in the Councell sauing the Emperour Vnlesse the Emperour appoint some to be present but being present they haue no voice in the Councell but may sit onely to heare this he proueth by that testimony of Ambrose in the cause of faith Bishops are the iudges and not the Emperours 61. And whereas this auncient Iurisdiction of Princes was so disordered by the Pope that by Papall intrusions and incroachments the Princes had well-nigh lost their right and temporall Iurisdiction turned into spiritual Iurisdiction of this he much complaineth and openeth the true cause of all this disorder to be in the insatiable couetousnes of the Court of Rome for thus he saith Rabidus appetitus ad ipsa terrena Ecclesijs annexa Dominia Episcopis ambitiosis hodie inest c. de temporalibus omnis cura de spiritualibus nulla Non fuit ista intentio Impâ—…ratorum non volebant spiritualia à temporalibus absorberi c. dum vacant Ecclesiae semper in periculo schismat is existunt c. Si perelectionem prouidendum est ambitio procurat diâ—…isionem vâ—…torum Si per curiam facilius persuadetur pro plus offerente omnia illâ—… grauamina adueniunt pauperibus subditis curia attrahit quicquid pingue est id quod Imperium contulit pro Deicultus bono publico ordiâ—…auit sanctissime auaritia cupiditate exorta palleatis rationibus nouis adinuentionibus totaliter peruertitur Imperiale efficitur Papale spirituale temporale That is Such a rauenous appetite is in ambitious Bishoppes at this day toward the temporall Dominions annexed to Churches c. all their care is for the temporalties not for spirituall matters this was not the meaning of Princes they meant not that the spirituall labours should be deuoured by temporalties c. Whilst the Churches are vacant there is alwaies some danger of a schisme c. If they proceed by election ambition procureth a diuision of the voyces If by the Court he that bringeth most is best heard and soonest preuaileth And all these greeuances come vpon the poore subiects whatsoeueris fat and rich the Court of Rome draweth to her selfe and that which the Empire as well for the worship of God as for the publicke good hath conferred vpon the Church and ordeined to an holy end all is vtterly peruerted through filthy couetousnesse and certaine painted reasons and new inuentions are deuised to colour it And thus the Imperiall right is now made Papall and temporall right is made spirituall Then these be the obseruations of the learned men of the Church of Rome long before vs that the Pope had intruded vpon the Emperours right now what soeuer the Pope had once practised that must be called spirituall Thus the Iurisdiction of the Emperor being once by cunning or force wrested from the Emperour being found in the Popes hand it was presently called spirituall Iurisdiction as he doth most truely obserue Imperiale efficitur Papale spirituale temporale 62. By all which we find the iudgement of this man to be directly against the Popes pretensed Iurisdiction and for the right of temporall Magistrates when we finde the Cardinals of the Church of Rome to write thus before the time of the contention and before M. Luther was borne wee are not so much to consider their priuate iudgements in these things as the receiued iudgement of the Church wherein they liued that is the Church of Rome from the iudgement of that Church they departed not but in these things do faithfully deliuer vnto vs the iudgement of the same Church standing against the iudgement of the Pope and his Court consisting of Friars and flatterers Thus we see the cause of the Reformed Churches throughly iustified by this learned Cardinall their separation from the Pope and the Court of Rome warranted because the Pope hath first made the separation from the profession of Saint Peter and from the faith of holy Scriptures and the idugement of auncient fathers In which case he granteth that the Church may depart from the Pope and thereby doth iustifie the separation that is made §. VII Aeneas Siluius 63. AT this time wrote Aeneas Siluius afterward called Pope Pius the second he hath written a booke of the actes and proceedings of the Councell of Basil from which I will note some things wherein the iudgement of this man may appeare concurring with the iudgement of the Church of Rome in his time but repugnant to the Pope and his flatterers First handling that Text Tues Petrus super hane Petram c. he saith thus A quibus verbis ideó placuit exordiri quod aliqui verba hâ—…c ad extollendam Rom Pontificis authoritatem solent adducere sed vt statiâ—… patebit alius est vâ—…rborum Christi sensus That is With which words I thought good to begin because some vse to alledge these words to extoll the authoritie of the Bishop of Rome but as it shall soone appeare there is another sense of Christs words Who are they who in the iudgment of this man do peruert the words of Christ Let the Iesuites aunswere and let them giue vs some reason able to satisfie a man of reason why that cause should not bee helde damnable which is condemned by their owne writers their Bishoppes their Cardinals their Popes Let them not tell vs that this Pope Pius was of another mind afterward when he was Pope and before he was Pope he might erre but after he was once Pope he could not erre these bee plaine collusions of them who write such things and illusions of such as beleeue them For it is not possible that any man should write or speake or thinke such things from conscience Shall I thinke that any learned man can thinke in conscience this to bee true that the Pope cannot erre when I heare the testimonie of the Church so full against it When I heare such as come to be Popes refute it before they come to that place When I heare such as haue beene in the place exclaime in the extremitie of desperation that no man in